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scottw 01-24-2010, 08:05 AM January 24, 2010
Climategate: Just Sign on the Dotted Line
By Dexter Wright
The mainstream media were convinced of global warming theory's legitimacy by the warnings supposedly signed by large numbers of the world's climate scientists. The propagandists in this effort were led by the now-discredited Dr. Phil Jones of Britain and former Vice President Al Gore.
Several of the recently leaked Climategate e-mails reveal backstage manipulations to produce a propaganda tool, the Statement of European Climate Scientists on Actions to Protect Global Climate, intended to be unveiled at the Kyoto Climate Conference. Members of the Jones Gang from East Anglia University organized efforts to get just about anyone to sign this statement to push up the numbers. In an e-mail dated 9 October 1997, Dr. Joseph Alcamo admonishes other members of the Jones Gang to forget credentials and just get signatures.
"I am very strongly in favor of as wide and rapid a distribution as possible for endorsements. I think the only thing that counts is numbers. The media is going to say "1000 scientists signed" or "1500 signed". No one is going to check if it is 600 with PhDs versus 2000 without. They will mention the prominent ones, but that is a different story."
Alcamo clearly has no respect for the media, implying that they are either lazy or stupid. Operating under this premise, Dr. Alcamo goes on by saying the following:
"Conclusion -- Forget the screening, forget asking them about their last publication (most will ignore you.) Get those names!"
sounds alot like ACORN voter registration???:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
spence 01-24-2010, 09:39 AM There are 2000 scientists who contribute to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
They've all be brainwashed of course, wiped clean and are now under the GoreBEAMTM which directs their actions to suck wealth from the United States as reparation for our evil capitalist ways.
How the GoreBEAMTM actually works is still a mystery, though some speculate this is why his home in Tennessee consumes so much electric power.
Regardless, the simple fact there is a general consensus among a majority of the scientific community is as clear evidence of a conspiracy as I need.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a mortar bed to lay.
-spence
Swimmer 01-24-2010, 10:26 AM There are 2000 scientists who contribute to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
They've all be brainwashed of course, wiped clean and are now under the GoreBEAMTM which directs their actions to suck wealth from the United States as reparation for our evil capitalist ways.
How the GoreBEAMTM actually works is still a mystery, though some speculate this is why his home in Tennessee consumes so much electric power.
Regardless, the simple fact there is a general consensus among a majority of the scientific community is as clear evidence of a conspiracy as I need.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a mortar bed to lay.
-spence
Hi, my name is Al Gore and I invented the internet!:bshake:
spence 01-24-2010, 10:40 AM Hi, my name is Al Gore and I invented the internet!:bshake:
You just used two instances of the trademarked name GoreBEAMTM.
Two US dollars (one dollar per use) in royalties were just sent from the town budget in Boone, IA to a real estate mogul in Jalapa, Guatemala to help subsidize the construction of a new Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise.
I wonder if those people even know what a biscuit is.
-spence
scottw 01-24-2010, 11:50 AM I don't know, sounds more like a handfull of corrupt scientists and a whole lotta third world sanitation engineers who traded their signatures for a pack of smokes :uhuh:
Dr. Mengele was a scientist wan't he?
spence 01-24-2010, 11:58 AM I don't know, sounds more like a handfull of corrupt scientists and a whole lotta third world sanitation engineers who traded their signatures for a pack of smokes :uhuh:
Dr. Mengele was a scientist wan't he?
Wow, you just went plaid on the lameometer.
Is it three yet?
-spence
scottw 01-24-2010, 01:26 PM Wow, you just went plaid on the lameometer.
Is it three yet?
-spence
you've really been saying some odd things lately...
This story is getting huge play in Great Britain - not so much here in America.
David Rose of the Daily Mail pens this piece:
The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders.
Dr Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research.
In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, Dr Lal, the co-ordinating lead author of the report's chapter on Asia, said: ‘It related to several countries in this region and their water sources. We thought that if we can highlight it, it will impact policy-makers and politicians and encourage them to take some concrete action.
‘It had importance for the region, so we thought we should put it in.'
It turns out that the prediction about Himalayan glaciers disappearing by 2035 was based on two interviews with an obscure Indian scientist and a piece in World Wildlife Federation's magazine - that botched the math in figuring glacier shrinkage:
The WWF article also contained a basic error in its arithmetic. A claim that one glacier was retreating at the alarming rate of 134 metres a year should in fact have said 23 metres - the authors had divided the total loss measured over 121 years by 21, not 121.
Money quote from the article: "In fact, the 2035 melting date seems to have been plucked from thin air."
spence 01-24-2010, 03:12 PM This story is getting huge play in Great Britain - not so much here in America.
I believe I read about it right here in the USA. It was a mistake by the UN to include the finding, and they've taken responsibility for the error.
That being said, it certainly doesn't undermine the bigger picture. Simple odds are that with thousands of scientists in the mix you're bound to have a gaff here or there.
-spence
buckman 01-24-2010, 03:51 PM I believe I read about it right here in the USA. It was a mistake by the UN to include the finding, and they've taken responsibility for the error.
That being said, it certainly doesn't undermine the bigger picture. Simple odds are that with thousands of scientists in the mix you're bound to have a gaff here or there.
-spence
It was no mistake. I don't trust the UN. sorry
The point is moot. This planet only has x number of natural resourses to sustain the human race at it's current growth rate. Want to save the planet? Get a vasectomy...
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scottw 01-24-2010, 04:47 PM I believe I read about it right here in the USA. It was a mistake by the UN to include the finding, and they've taken responsibility for the error.HAAAAAA...that's really funny!!!:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
That being said, it certainly doesn't undermine the bigger picture. the Progressive Socialists Agenda? Simple odds are that with thousands of scientists in the mix you're bound to have a gaff here or there. "a gaff"...there have been a lot...not much is working out the way the models and Al Gore predicted and ALL of the errors, screw ups, fraud and deceit have been on the side of the global warming/climate change frauds
-spence
I'm almost beginning to have sympathy for you and Barry :uhuh: not Al though....
can you "take full responsibility" while at the same time dismissing calls for your resignation?
here's a great cartoon from the Times of India
JohnnyD 01-25-2010, 09:52 AM The point is moot. This planet only has x number of natural resourses to sustain the human race at it's current growth rate. Want to save the planet? Get a vasectomy...
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
:cheers:
scottw 01-25-2010, 10:25 AM :cheers:
ahhh.....so that's how the global warming frauds will wiggle out of this mess...:uhuh: 'doesn't matter anyway" :rotf2:
scottw 01-31-2010, 08:11 AM WEIRD SCIENCE
UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article
The United Nations' expert panel on climate change based claims about ice disappearing from the world's mountain tops on a student's dissertation and an article in a mountaineering magazine.
By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent and Rebecca Lefort
Published: 9:00PM GMT 30 Jan 2010
Officials were forced earlier this month to retract inaccurate claims in the IPCC's report about the melting of Himalayan glaciers The revelation will cause fresh embarrassment for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which had to issue a humiliating apology earlier this month over inaccurate statements about global warming.
The IPCC's remit is to provide an authoritative assessment of scientific evidence on climate change.
IPCC: climate change scientists are 'only human'
Second blunder by UN climate science panel In its most recent report, it stated that observed reductions in mountain ice in the Andes, Alps and Africa was being caused by global warming, citing two papers as the source of the information.
However, it can be revealed that one of the sources quoted was a feature article published in a popular magazine for climbers which was based on anecdotal evidence from mountaineers about the changes they were witnessing on the mountainsides around them.
The other was a dissertation written by a geography student, studying for the equivalent of a master's degree, at the University of Berne in Switzerland that quoted interviews with mountain guides in the Alps.
justplugit 01-31-2010, 03:12 PM Were/Are vasectomies covered in the HC Bill ?
spence 01-31-2010, 04:32 PM Several thousand scientists collaborate to assemble thousands of pages of documentation and a few errors slipped through the cracks?
YouTube - Airplane! - Surely You Can't Be Serious? (in LEGO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALSKslMpU4)
-spence
RIROCKHOUND 02-03-2010, 02:53 PM http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100127_TemperatureFinal.pdf
give it a read. Summary of the science and some perspectives on the 2009 weather...
I'm sure Scott will poo-poo it w/o reading it, but what the hell.
buckman 02-03-2010, 03:56 PM Bottom line...... I"M NOT PAYING
scottw 02-03-2010, 04:16 PM http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100127_TemperatureFinal.pdf
give it a read. Summary of the science and some perspectives on the 2009 weather...
I'm sure Scott will poo-poo it w/o reading it, but what the hell.
you do know that Columbia is the home of Cloward and Piven... right?
anything with James Hansen's name on it is a F-ing joke!
Raven 02-03-2010, 06:01 PM i don't believe them
spence 02-03-2010, 08:15 PM http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100127_TemperatureFinal.pdf
give it a read. Summary of the science and some perspectives on the 2009 weather...
I'm sure Scott will poo-poo it w/o reading it, but what the hell.
You are joking right?
Why bring "science" into a political issue?
-spence
scottw 02-03-2010, 11:55 PM yeah...some science Spence, Hansen is Gore's top "scientist" and is the guy who, was denounced by his former boss and who, a little over a year ago, declared with much fanfare that October was the hottest on record until it was pointed out by real scientists that he'd carried September's numbers over into October...yeah...that's one great scientist...he should get a Nobel too...you'd think that the "settled science" would be a much easier sell and slightly more evident given all of the promises...kinda like Obamanomics...lots of hype and promises.... but all of the graphs keep heading in the wrong direction...:rotf2:
"the science"...and "some" perspectives....that's great
I noticed were up to ...several thousand scientists now....honestly, just beat your chest and call it a million...just because you keep indescriminately adding scientists doesn't make it true....:uhuh:
JohnnyD 02-04-2010, 12:11 AM Who needs science when we have Jesus?
Bottom line...... I"M NOT PAYING
You'll pay if they tell you to.
buckman 02-04-2010, 06:41 AM Who needs science when we have Jesus?
You'll pay if they tell you to.
Then we put people in place that aren't insane.
scottw 02-04-2010, 07:55 AM You are joking right?
Why bring "science" into a political issue?
-spence
The U.N. signaled its intent to politicize science as far back as 1972 at its Conference on the Human Environment (UNCHE) in Stockholm, Sweden. There, an unlikely mélange of legitimate environmental activists, dyed-in-the-wool Marxists, and assorted anti-establishment '60s leftovers were delighted to hear not only the usual complaints about "industrialized" environmental problems, but also a long list of international inequities. Among the many human responsibilities condemned were overpopulation, misuse of resources and technology, unbalanced development, and the worldwide dilemma of urbanization. And from that marriage of global, environmental, and social justice concerns was born the IPCC's parent organization -- the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) -- and the fortune-cookie like prose of its socialist-environmentalist manifesto, the Stockholm Declaration.
spence 02-04-2010, 08:13 AM I noticed were up to ...several thousand scientists now....honestly, just beat your chest and call it a million...just because you keep indescriminately adding scientists doesn't make it true....:uhuh:
Make it a million? Hey, this isn't FOX News coverage of a conservative rally at the Mall.
I'll throw this post in the non sequitur bin with the others.
-spence
scottw 02-04-2010, 09:15 AM Make it a million? Hey, this isn't FOX News coverage of a conservative rally at the Mall.
I'll throw this post in the non sequitur bin with the others.
-spence
yes, you can burn them to keep warm in this era of global warming...:uhuh:
spence 02-04-2010, 06:01 PM yes, you can burn them to keep warm in this era of global warming...:uhuh:
Nah, your posts emit too many toxic emissions :rtfm:
-spence
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