Taxpayers pay $101,000 for Pelosi's in-flight 'food, booze' (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=123472)

Is totally nuts, they should have to fly commercial

Is totally nuts, they should have to fly commercial

Or into a mountain...

Or into a mountain...

Those planes are expensive and also paid for by taxpayers $$, just throw them out over the mountain without a parachute (save more tax $).

Geez, it would take me an entire 3 day weekend to run up a tab like that. The printed receipt looks similar to the one from my buddy's bachelor party, except for the merlot. And our receipt had gummy bears and Doritos on it.

They should't even serve booze on Air Force planes. Things that make you go WTF

Or into a mountain...

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

Those planes are expensive and also paid for by taxpayers $$, just throw them out over the mountain without a parachute (save more tax $).

Like many Democrats say, you've gotta spend money in order to turn this country around. I'd be willing to sacrifice one multi-million dollar jet in order to put her out of our misery.

She reminds me of the Crypt-Keeper in the old "Tales from the Crypt" series on HBO.

She reminds me of the Crypt-Keeper in the old "Tales from the Crypt" series on HBO.

There is an uncanny resemblance:

YouTube - Cryptkeeper - Your Brain on Drugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qhKSlWJs-8&NR=1)

she does look like corpse with it's eyes stuck open.....when she's blinking continuously...that means she's awake..when she's just sitting there with her eyes wide open but not blinking...she's napping....all of these old people now have these little tiny frail bodies like you'd expect to see from a 70 something.... but then they have these heads with oddly colored too much hair and contorted faces with no wrinkles...it's weird...and the weirdest thing is that they think they look good and not at all like they stole the head off of someone else and put it on their crooked little body....

Does anyone know how her use of Air Force jets compares to other US Speaker's of the House?

-spence

Does anyone know how her use of Air Force jets compares to other US Speaker's of the House?

-spence


Hey least Tip O'Neill drank beer. Besides I think Tip took the train.

Besides I think Tip took the train.
Please don't take this as an endorsement of Pelosi, but Boston is a lot closer than California.

-spence

Does anyone know how her use of Air Force jets compares to other US Speaker's of the House?

-spence

check Snopes :rotf2:

:buds:Will anyone here volunteer to pack Pelosi's parachute?:jump1:

:buds:Will anyone here volunteer to pack Pelosi's parachute?:jump1:

I'll do it. It'll be just like the old Bugs Bunny cartoons where they pull the cord and an anvil or kitchen utensils come pouring out the back.

Boy do I hate her.

9/11 forced this.
I'm surprised there is not a small jet that has 3500 mi range. Doesn't the Starship have that.
A little review by FAA should be able to come with a list of candidates

9/11 forced this.
I'm surprised there is not a small jet that has 3500 mi range. Doesn't the Starship have that.
A little review by FAA should be able to come with a list of candidates
What is and isn't in the inventory? There was a big spiel on this a couple years ago, remember?

As much as I'm not a fan of Pelosi there are certain reasonable needs.

100K bar tab isn't reasonable.

What is and isn't in the inventory? There was a big spiel on this a couple years ago, remember?

As much as I'm not a fan of Pelosi there are certain reasonable needs.

100K bar tab isn't reasonable.

that includes her CODEL's with Fam and Friends to global locations. Amazing.

9/11 forced this.
I'm surprised there is not a small jet that has 3500 mi range. Doesn't the Starship have that.
A little review by FAA should be able to come with a list of candidates
This is true, after 9/11 Bush asked that the Speaker of the House be afforded more security. Because Pelosi lives on the west coast, the plane that Hastert used to take doesn't have the range.

Something about this entire story strikes me as odd. A single story from WND who's known to post false or inaccurate bunk as news, runs the rumor mill but has no credible reporting...

I'd wager it's being taken out of context or otherwise heavily spun.

-spence

This is true, after 9/11 Bush asked that the Speaker of the House be afforded more security. Because Pelosi lives on the west coast, the plane that Hastert used to take doesn't have the range.

Something about this entire story strikes me as odd. A single story from WND who's known to post false or inaccurate bunk as news, runs the rumor mill but has no credible reporting...

I'd wager it's being taken out of context or otherwise heavily spun.

-spence

and because she won't stop to refuel....

The Gulfstream V (also called the G-V) first flew in 1995, was certified in 1997, and was one of the first "ultra-long range" (~6,000 nautical miles) business aircraft. Capable of carrying up to 16 people in standard seating configurations, and able to fly up to 6,500 nautical miles (7,480 miles, 12,038 km), the GV became the longest range business jet ever made (at the time of its introduction). Total production of the Gulfstream V was 191 aircraft.[3]
[edit]C-37A
Designated C-37A in U.S. Air Force service, the Gulfstream V fulfills missions for government and Defense Department officials. The US Navy also operates one C-37A.

United States Air Force: operates the C-37A as command/executive transport
United States Army: operates the C-37A as command/executive transport
United States Coast Guard: has operated one C-37A as CG-01, the commandant's executive transport, since May 2002.[12]
United States Navy: operates one C-37A as command / executive transport.[13]
United States Marine Corps: operates the C-37A as command / executive transport
Federal Aviation Administration: operates one Gulfstream G-V with tail number N1.
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Emergency Management Agency: operates one Gulfstream G-V for team transport in disaster response.
National Center for Atmospheric Research: operates one Gulfstream G-V for scientific research.

and because she won't stop to refuel....

I don't think that's her decision but rather being made by the security staff of the House.

It also looks like:

Hastert used the Air Force as a shuttle much more frequently.

Hastert often took his family with him.

Many of Pelosi's trips, including the one where they accuse all the booze of being drank, also included Republican members of the House.

Rules for family members state that taxpayers are reimbursed for their tickets and food.

Etc...

In other words, there's a lot of context missing from this story.

-spence

A non-stop is required for security purposes?
Still think there are other options more viable like ExecuJets or NetJets.
Who would know?

I don't think that's her decision but rather being made by the security staff of the House.

It also looks like:

Hastert used the Air Force as a shuttle much more frequently.

Hastert often took his family with him.

Many of Pelosi's trips, including the one where they accuse all the booze of being drank, also included Republican members of the House.

Rules for family members state that taxpayers are reimbursed for their tickets and food.

Etc...

In other words, there's a lot of context missing from this story.

-spence

what's it like?....constantly making excuses for, defending, creating moral equivalents for and putting into context the truly evil? :devil2:

what's it like?....constantly making excuses for, defending, creating moral equivalents for and putting into context the truly evil? :devil2:

I'm no fan of Pelosi, but I am sick of out of context crap being used to smear. It's eating this country alive.

-spence

I'm no fan of Pelosi, but I am sick of out of context crap being used to smear. It's eating this country alive.

-spence


And not exactly a new trend. Been going on for decades. Now, has it increased in the past 15 years? Or is it that "we" are older and more aware / beaten down?

I'm no fan of Pelosi, but I am sick of out of context crap being used to smear. It's eating this country alive.

-spence

OK, I'll take that as an admission....I guess evil needs it's defenders too......:devil2::uhuh:

And not exactly a new trend. Been going on for decades. Now, has it increased in the past 15 years? Or is it that "we" are older and more aware / beaten down?

blame the decline of the american education system and the lack of intiative for the average american. As a result, there are more and more liberals and they have access to outlets like the media and the internet. the dumbing down of america.

YouTube - Cafferty On Pelosi: "What A Horrible Woman She Is!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fNfzNqwaXk)

blame the decline of the american education system and the lack of intiative for the average american. As a result, there are more and more liberals and they have access to outlets like the media and the internet. the dumbing down of america.

I think you discount the parental influences, which allow your above statements to ring true. People seem to be stepping away from liability or their own children and expecting the Village to raise their child. They piss and moan when the schools don't do exactly as they see fit, but at the same token, won't hold responsibility for teaching their own children.

When I was teaching a voluntary afterschool activity for high school kids, if they showed up late or didn't show up at all, there was always an excuse. The parents would send an email or would come in and tell us to excuse their child - my favorite would be the notes we'd receive from doctors, psycs, part-time bosses, and older siblings. There were many times we knew the kid was playing hooky (because their peers would tell us) but then would have a note "Please excuse Jimmy. He had a Dr's appointment."

My long-winded point is that there is a trend of parents not even holding their own children responsible for their actions. When I was young and accidentally broke a neighbors window, I was the one that had to do yard work for them or paint their fence - today, a parent just pays for the window.

I think this all adds to the increasingly litigious state of this country.

I think you discount the parental influences, which allow your above statements to ring true. People seem to be stepping away from liability or their own children and expecting the Village to raise their child. They piss and moan when the schools don't do exactly as they see fit, but at the same token, won't hold responsibility for teaching their own children.

When I was teaching a voluntary afterschool activity for high school kids, if they showed up late or didn't show up at all, there was always an excuse. The parents would send an email or would come in and tell us to excuse their child - my favorite would be the notes we'd receive from doctors, psycs, part-time bosses, and older siblings. There were many times we knew the kid was playing hooky (because their peers would tell us) but then would have a note "Please excuse Jimmy. He had a Dr's appointment."

My long-winded point is that there is a trend of parents not even holding their own children responsible for their actions. When I was young and accidentally broke a neighbors window, I was the one that had to do yard work for them or paint their fence - today, a parent just pays for the window.

I think this all adds to the increasingly litigious state of this country.


agreed, want a new one? I was thinking of posting this and Im sure Fishbones will chime in.....I get a note from daycare, MA passed some requirement that if you're in daycare for more than 4 hrs or eat there, they have to brush the kids teeth. This is becasue of growing tooth decay. WTF !!!! So because some parents dont take care of their kids, we all have to do this? I'll bet any $$$$ it was a liberal who implemented this. So now we have massive flu hysteria and we're going to be having kids swaping spit and using toothbrushes at daycares. F'in nuts!

agreed, want a new one? I was thinking of posting this and Im sure Fishbones will chime in.....I get a note from daycare, MA passed some requirement that if you're in daycare for more than 4 hrs or eat there, they have to brush the kids teeth. This is becasue of growing tooth decay. WTF !!!! So because some parents dont take care of their kids, we all have to do this? I'll bet any $$$$ it was a liberal who implemented this. So now we have massive flu hysteria and we're going to be having kids swaping spit and using toothbrushes at daycares. F'in nuts!

I don't think it's just for day care, Jim:fury:

agreed, want a new one? I was thinking of posting this and Im sure Fishbones will chime in.....I get a note from daycare, MA passed some requirement that if you're in daycare for more than 4 hrs or eat there, they have to brush the kids teeth. This is becasue of growing tooth decay. WTF !!!! So because some parents dont take care of their kids, we all have to do this? I'll bet any $$$$ it was a liberal who implemented this. So now we have massive flu hysteria and we're going to be having kids swaping spit and using toothbrushes at daycares. F'in nuts!

Yeah, I got that note, too. Just more of the "since you can't do it for yourself, we'll do it for you" mentality that's prevalent in all aspects of society nowadays. And I'm pretty sure that people like us end up paying for this in one way or another.

And not exactly a new trend. Been going on for decades. Now, has it increased in the past 15 years? Or is it that "we" are older and more aware / beaten down?
I think that's an influence as politics have always been ugly, but the media age, and especially the influence of the Internet have definitely changed the game significantly.

Disinformation goes viral much, much faster. This consumes the news cycle which is much shorter.

-spence

blame the decline of the american education system and the lack of intiative for the average american. As a result, there are more and more liberals and they have access to outlets like the media and the internet. the dumbing down of america.

Idiotic post.

-spence

Typical hit and run potshot post by Spence. Insult someone by saying their post is idiotic, but offer no reason as to why you think so. Why don't you try some of that "critical thinking" that you accuse others for not using. Your act is so transparent and weak that it's getting to the point that it's no longer fun to goad you into arguments.

Typical hit and run potshot post by Spence. Insult someone by saying their post is idiotic, but offer no reason as to why you think so. Why don't you try some of that "critical thinking" that you accuse others for not using. Your act is so transparent and weak that it's getting to the point that it's no longer fun to goad you into arguments.

when was Spence ever fun???

Typical hit and run potshot post by Spence. Insult someone by saying their post is idiotic, but offer no reason as to why you think so. Why don't you try some of that "critical thinking" that you accuse others for not using. Your act is so transparent and weak that it's getting to the point that it's no longer fun to goad you into arguments.

This is funny. I haven't put out any ammo for you lately so you've moved onto spence.

Typical hit and run potshot post by Spence. Insult someone by saying their post is idiotic, but offer no reason as to why you think so. Why don't you try some of that "critical thinking" that you accuse others for not using. Your act is so transparent and weak that it's getting to the point that it's no longer fun to goad you into arguments.

It was self explanatory, had you applied some critical thinking yourself that would have been apparent :bshake:

-spence

When I was teaching a voluntary afterschool activity for high school kids, if they showed up late or didn't show up at all, there was always an excuse. The parents would send an email or would come in and tell us to excuse their child - my favorite would be the notes we'd receive from doctors, psycs, part-time bosses, and older siblings. There were many times we knew the kid was playing hooky (because their peers would tell us) but then would have a note "Please excuse Jimmy. He had a Dr's appointment."
.

I substitute taught for 3 or 4 years after i retired because i love kids,
thought i had something to offer, and wanted to pay back.
I found the exact same things as you in the public schools and quickly ended up in a private school
because the parents were paying $$$ and really took
an interest in how their kids were doing. Both teachers and kids knew
the parents were behind the school and it was a pleasure to teach there.

In the end the parents are responsible for their kids education.

agreed, want a new one? I was thinking of posting this and Im sure Fishbones will chime in.....I get a note from daycare, MA passed some requirement that if you're in daycare for more than 4 hrs or eat there, they have to brush the kids teeth. This is becasue of growing tooth decay. WTF !!!! So because some parents dont take care of their kids, we all have to do this? I'll bet any $$$$ it was a liberal who implemented this. So now we have massive flu hysteria and we're going to be having kids swaping spit and using toothbrushes at daycares. F'in nuts!

Just setting the stage for when they go to elementary school they'll be ready for their on premises dental care.

I think that's an influence as politics have always been ugly, but the media age, and especially the influence of the Internet have definitely changed the game significantly.

Disinformation goes viral much, much faster. This consumes the news cycle which is much shorter.

-spence

Disinformation cuts both ways. No/Few unbiased sources. Quick disinformation. Makes living in the extreme middle challenging.

Idiotic post.

-spence

Dont claim something is idiotic simply becuase you dont understand it. So its purely a coincidence that the worst schools, in the worst areas, with the worst students are in primarily democratic areas? Sure.

Dont claim something is idiotic simply becuase you dont understand it. So its purely a coincidence that the worst schools, in the worst areas, with the worst students are in primarily democratic areas? Sure.

Democrats tend to give the most to social services. Just like Republicans tend to give the most to businesses.

Correlation does not prove causation.

Democrats tend to give the most to social services. Just like Republicans tend to give the most to businesses.

Correlation does not prove causation.

REALLY? So if the need for social services goes away, which one is out of a job?

Democrats tend to give the most to social services. Just like Republicans tend to give the most to businesses.

Correlation does not prove causation.


Democrats and Republicans both give the most to themselves.

The poor areas vote democrat because the Democrats promise them handouts. I'm simplifying it, but it's a fact.

politicians like to ask "are you are better off now that you were x number of years ago"...I think it might be a good strategy to go into these areas that the dems have controlled forever and ask "are you better off now than you were 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 years ago?" ....and then remind them about what Obama is eating each night and about Pelosi's booze and food binge flights :uhuh:

Democrats and Republicans both give the most to themselves.

The poor areas vote democrat because the Democrats promise them handouts. I'm simplifying it, but it's a fact.

Essentially what I was getting at.