View Full Version : Team S-B Striper Cup Plea
redlite 03-25-2010, 11:12 AM Alright.
We are the premier striped bass fishing website in the Northeast. It has evolved into more of a "club" than a website. We have countless members, from the "beginner" to the "expert". Infact, in the past 24 hours, over 380 registered members have visited this site.We all have a passion for catching fish for different reasons.
My plea to all the members on here, wether you post, just lurk, or spend more time on here than should be spent. It doesn't matter. Become active. Wether you are for or against tournaments, catch/ release, fine, I don't want to argue. If you already signed up for the cup and I have convinced you to join the team, simply call On The Water and tell them you want to declare a team. Even if you fish with others from other teams, it doens't matter. I fish through it with a couple of people on other teams.
To those that ARE going to fish the Cup, I send out a plea, and that plea is that we are able to really put together a team that can make a committed run to retake the Striper Cup this year. I know we are primarily a shore group, but we also have some top notch boat folks. And we need more boat folks.
I know there is a lot of feeling that we don't stand a chance against some of the more "stacked/ qualified" teams (ie Team Realdeal, Team striper), but we have more people to fish. We don't have any endoresment deals. But so what. The more team members, the better the chances.
You don't have to be a "sharpie" or fish every night. Don't worry about feeling that you "don't catch big fish" or "fish enough", so why bother. All it takes is one cast to become a hero.
I know that some from here have already signed up for the cup, but say they aren't fishing for a team. That is your perogative, but to those that do, I ask why wouldn't you. In my opinion, I think the team thing is the best and whole essence of the Striper Cup.
So, in short and in conjunction with the "Roll Call" post, I beg that we as a Team make a concerted effort to do it this year. So if you are going to sign up, just put Team Striped-Bass.com as your team, get off the bench, and join the game. Its a lot more fun to play with others than by yourself. (plus you get access to the "Team S-B" forum)
......Pretty please.......
Was the war over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???? Who's with me..............
WESTPORTMAFIA 03-25-2010, 11:36 AM I'll call them and add to the list. The biggest last year was 35# but I'll break a 40 this time.:gh:
Sea Dangles 03-25-2010, 11:46 AM This thread is desperate and gay.
Back Beach 03-25-2010, 12:11 PM This thread is desperate and gay.
I love it Chris, you're getting fired up already....:rumble:
Its gonna be a sox versus yankees type of atmosphere this year....maybe you can play the venerable Don Zimmer in chest waders, just watch out for Pedro....:laugha:
Good post by Redlite, he knows how to rally....
YouTube - pedro vs. don zimmer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb8Tpt6lEjg)
striperman36 03-25-2010, 12:17 PM do the shore guys get nipple cream?
T-shirt and hat for all?
Mr. Sandman 03-25-2010, 12:23 PM Why do you want to win this cup? What is the point?
Just go fish.
Back Beach 03-25-2010, 12:31 PM What is the point?
.
It gives Sea Dangles and I a reason to incessantly bust each others chops for six months....plus some people like to compete and have a good time doing it.
Canalman 03-25-2010, 12:34 PM I didn't know it was the Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor! :grins::smash:
Back Beach 03-25-2010, 12:39 PM I didn't know it was the Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor! :grins::smash:
You mean during your drunken, disparate college days you never saw animal house? :laugha:
Rockport24 03-25-2010, 12:39 PM I didn't know it was the Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor! :grins::smash:
"Germans?....forget it he's rolling...." man that is awesome, I had to find it!
YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI)
Canalman 03-25-2010, 12:48 PM You mean during your drunken, disparate college days you never saw animal house? :laugha:
I never went to kollidge
JohnR 03-25-2010, 01:25 PM I want to echo Mike's post above. In many ways, for many people, we are more than a simple website and more of a club. A lot of us fish together in small groups and sometimes big groups. We have a lot of fun and sometimes - like the CUP - we can do more as a TEAM.
So for yuse guys sitting on the fence, not sure if you want to fish on a Team, please give it a shot. Come fish with Team S-B. We are bringing on some new people to fish with us that haven't fished with us in the past - boat and surf guys - and our goal is to have even more fun and camaraderie fishing as a TEAM.
Fishing the Cup is a lot of fun, in many ways similar to fishing the storied MV Derby. One of the advantages of fishing the Cup versus the Derby is that you don't have to kill yourself for the few days, or weeks (or the whole month if you have that opportunity) that the Derby runs.
You can still fish at your pace. You can add fish to the Team standings that you may otherwise keep or weigh in for your club's tourney. Or that fish of a lifetime. Some of you will want to only keep a Personal Best, that is OK. If your personal best can also help out Team S-B that would be greatly appreciated. I know personally, I've only entered one fish in the Cup in 4 years. I still release 99% of what I catch, Cup or no Cup.
Conservation: Initially the Cup would have had many more potential fish entered but people voiced their concerns and over the years have reduced the total potential take for the tournament. OTW listened and reduced the amount if fish that could be entered and they also reduced counting towards the Team standings. Team S-B further endorses minimum sizes for fish well beyond OTW's minimums so that we don't end up weighing fish that will have little or no chance as the end of the Tournament approaches. We have not determined those numbers just yet but they will probably be 35#s shore and 43#s boat.
As an added bonus, I am considering a few limited run trips for Team S-B participants to go commando fish various hot spots such as Block Island and maybe Cuttyhunk over the course of the season to fish for Large.
Team S-B won the Cup a few years ago and has been in the running ever since, competing against of very sharp anglers - including paid professionals, commercial guys, and charter captains. It would be a great testament to our community to pull this off and bring back the Cup. I would be honored if you fish with us.
Rappin Mikey 03-25-2010, 01:26 PM I wasn't gonna sign up this year, but now, I am! Go Team S-B!!!!!
fishbones 03-25-2010, 02:16 PM I already signed up and am fishing for team SB, but if I hadn't this post would have made me do it today.
I haven't signed up I guess maye I should,whens the deadline?
Krispy 03-25-2010, 03:15 PM I haven't signed up I guess maye I should,whens the deadline?
Its over before you even start :behead:
striperman36 03-25-2010, 03:24 PM It would be a great testament to our community to pull this off and bring back the Cup. I would be honored if you fish with us.
Stickers for all team members? S-B Team!!
JohnR 03-25-2010, 03:56 PM I haven't signed up I guess maye I should,whens the deadline?
Technically, no deadline but you can sign up now online at OTW here: On The Water Store - Striper Cup Registration (http://onthewater.com/OTWstore/otwstore_stripercupreg.html)
Remember, its actually a couple bucks cheaper to sign up as a Team Member. So under put Team Striped-Bass.com in the box: "Club affiliation if applicable:"
Its over before you even start :behead:
Pfffffft :bs:
Stickers for all team members? S-B Team!!
Absolutely!
eskimo 03-25-2010, 04:16 PM I suck at anything that involves teams but as long as I get to land my own fish without a 'team effort' I'm in. :uhuh:
I'll make my way over and sign up.
eyes on the prize! :smash:
piemma 03-25-2010, 04:23 PM I cried when Belushi died. Although, there are worst ways to go than a "speedball".
chefchris401 03-25-2010, 04:23 PM Funny iwas talking about this with Wesport Majia the other night, Im going to sign up and will be putting Team SB as my club. I fish with a small group of guys or alone for the most part, but Im out there 5 to 6 days a week.
Sounds like a good time.
eskimo 03-25-2010, 04:25 PM damn. there's no size Med t-shirts.
chefchris401 03-25-2010, 04:25 PM also can someone post the link to the rules and what not for the cup? Thanks.
Rob Rockcrawler 03-25-2010, 04:25 PM I didnt know we were up against "paid professionals". That doesnt mean much to me, but it would be cool to get paid to fish.
chrisjoe13 03-25-2010, 04:26 PM I've been part of a different team the last two years but,...I've just changed my mind. I'm in for Team S-B.
CowHunter 03-25-2010, 04:41 PM I didnt know we were up against "paid professionals". That doesnt mean much to me, but it would be cool to get paid to fish.
Yeah, some guys were getting something like 10k sign up bonuses....5k for every fish wieghed in for top ten....
Heard they were called "Team Mo Money"
BMEUPSCOTTY 03-25-2010, 05:00 PM That's it... I'm in... was thinking about not doing it for all the reasons redlite mentioned, but what the hell... If I didn't enter and caught a corker, I'd probably be sorry. I would like to make it through the cup with a fish on the board for S-B. That would be an accomplishment in itself, with all the talent on here.
All it takes is one cast to become a hero.
ain't that the truth.:hee:
tynan19 03-25-2010, 05:20 PM Mike, does have a nack for rallying the troops. I remember we were all sitting around the Cutty Clubhouse and Mike shows up. He says 3 words and everyone jumped up and were fired up in minutes. I am certainly in for the team.
nightfighter 03-25-2010, 05:28 PM Yeah, some guys were getting something like 10k sign up bonuses....5k for every fish wieghed in for top ten....
Heard they were called "Team Mo Money"
Yeah Kenny, this free agency is getting to be a beotch..........I hafta turn in fuel slips on the expense reports too?:rotf2:
JohnR 03-25-2010, 05:29 PM OnTheWater's Annual Tourney, cost is $35 for the tourney, weekly and monthly prizes, and a chance to be the Top Team for a Year. S-B won a couple years ago.
From OTW's website:
On The Water brings you a 5-month, season-long tournament designed to bring the entire Northeast fishing community together to celebrate the most beloved sport fish in the region, the striped bass.
With the Striper Cup, our goal is to reach out to all striped bass fishermen and reward each angler regardless of how or why they fish. Just for signing up, all entrants will receive a registration package that includes a 2010 Striper Cup T-shirt, a commemorative pin, and an invitation to the 2010 StriperFest. All registered participants present at StriperFest will be eligible to win the NorthCoast Fishing Boat – You don’t even need to weigh a fish to win! This year, catch-and-release anglers will be able to have their accomplishments recognized by filling out a release affidavit and receiving the corresponding Pounder Club Pin. In 2010, five monthly shore winners and five monthly boat winners will all be entered for a 1-in-10 chance to win $10,000. New clubs have been formed, established clubs have been strengthened and the playing field has been leveled for club competition. Who will drink from the Striper Cup in 2010? Get your club or marina involved today...
...The Striper Cup is about reviving sportsmanship and camaraderie among striped bass fishermen along the East Coast, and based on the nearly 4,000 people who packed the tent for a fantastic party at the 2009 StriperFest, that sportsmanship and camaraderie is alive and well...
Past images:
http://striped-bass.com/striper-fishing/images/stories/stripercup/defend-cup-canal.jpg
http://striped-bass.com/striper-fishing/images/stories/stripercup/stripercup640.jpg
CowHunter 03-25-2010, 05:34 PM Yeah Kenny, this free agency is getting to be a beotch..........I hafta turn in fuel slips on the expense reports too?:rotf2:
Well, I did hear "Team Mo Money" was covering all expenses... i dont even think it was appropriate to mention what the angler of the year prize money was... I declined.... I fish with Team Reel Deal... Everybody knows eachother... Just 18 strong that love to fish and know eachother!
Dad 818 03-25-2010, 06:00 PM F*** it. I don't catch anything, but I'm in! Maybe this will be the year!
Uncle Rob 03-25-2010, 06:31 PM LET's Bring home the cup !! I signed up hours ago!
PRBuzz 03-25-2010, 06:41 PM I entered a couple years ago....question is there a boat and shore category for S-B.com or is that when you record your fish?
GattaFish 03-25-2010, 06:41 PM Mike, does have a nack for rallying the troops. I remember we were all sitting around the Cutty Clubhouse and Mike shows up. He says 3 words and everyone jumped up and were fired up in minutes. I am certainly in for the team.
I thought it was 4 words,,, "Welcome to my island" :uhuh::uhuh:
angler229 03-25-2010, 07:42 PM I entered a couple years ago....question is there a boat and shore category for S-B.com or is that when you record your fish?
When you sign up for the cup you can enter surf, boat or both. If you enter just one category you can only weigh fish caught that way. If you enter both, when you weigh your fish there is a spot on the form to indicate shore or boat.
inTHERAPY 03-25-2010, 08:27 PM Well, I did hear "Team Mo Money" was covering all expenses... i dont even think it was appropriate to mention what the angler of the year prize money was... I declined.... I fish with Team Reel Deal... Everybody knows eachother... Just 18 strong that love to fish and know eachother!
I hear you signed Capt Ahab, Queeqeg, Sig Hanson, Greenlaw, and got the Showtime up and running
Its over before you even start :behead:
I love it when the odds are against me,infact I wouldn't have it any other way:smokin:
WESTPORTMAFIA 03-25-2010, 08:49 PM I love it when the odds are against me,infact I wouldn't have it any other way:smokin:
Is this a famous quote?
quick decision 03-25-2010, 09:37 PM I will enter as both surf and boat.
Is this a famous quote?
Maybe after this season it might:fishin:
trapperpierre 03-25-2010, 10:02 PM .....the Trapper declares he will fish on Team Reel Deal........:uhuh:
CowHunter 03-25-2010, 10:55 PM .....the Trapper declares he will fish on Team Reel Deal........:uhuh:
Awesome!
SurfCaster413 03-26-2010, 01:07 AM Hell am so in now for team s-b.com good job rallying the troops Johnr am so pumped up right now can't wait for the may run to start!!!!
BassDawg 03-26-2010, 01:53 AM has anyone heard from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
the Sly One, Crazy Chuckie,
luds, Clogston, Tony O???
those guys could add some high hooks!
:uhuh: :uhuh: :uhuh:
Rob Rockcrawler 03-26-2010, 03:57 AM I think this will be a good season. And see no reason why we cant win this year. LAst year was an off season for large fish for me but as far as quantity the best, and the season before like a knuckle head i didnt to the cup. I will make a plea to a buddy of mine who i have a lot of confidence in.
Sea Dangles 03-26-2010, 06:29 AM Well, now that Bradshaw has been exonerated it looks like he will be back in the fold.
Also some Crazy fishermen from Long Island.........surf division anglers help immensely!!
piemma 03-26-2010, 06:32 AM You guys really are getting excited about this thing!
Last time I got excited there were a pair of 38Ds in front of me.
Whatever floats your boat.
Doublerunner 03-26-2010, 07:05 AM I know this won't be a popular post here but I do hate tournaments such as this. Unless the tournament is strictly catch and release with penalties against killed fish then these things have the potential to bring out the worst in some. I know there are many fine fishermen and people on this site and others that participate in this tournament and others. And not everyone will abandon their principles for the sake of a tournament. But some do. And in a time when the viability of the stock is in doubt as to it's future then perhaps it may be best to forego the tournaments and just fish for the enjoyment.
I am fairly new to this and so perhaps I take a different view than some and this post is not intended to piss any one off. We all have the right to enjoy fishing in a manner that pleases ourselves and so long as it's within the laws then so be it. But please consider your actions and don't let things get out of hand.
I do believe that one of your own that has passed away recently was dead set against tournaments. I know it's a personal choice and for that reason I won't participate in any tournament unless it's strictly catch and release. But that's my choice. If you choose to kill every fish you catch then that's your choice. I just hope you won't and will consider more important things than stroking your ego or winning a tournament. Not saying that's why you all do it. Many times it's just the comaraderie that comes along with it and that part is great. Let's just be careful out there and not get too carried away.
Are there really teams that get paid to fish in a tournament like this?
JohnR 03-26-2010, 07:21 AM DR - I understand your sentiment. If ASMFC considers S-B in trouble, we will certainly revisit this. They don't. We need numbers.
As for the tournament, 95% of us are 99% Catch & Release. I don't think the net effect of this tournament is greater than 2-3 hot days days at any prime spot: Scortons, Providence, Canal, Jersey Beach, Block, etc...
chrisjoe13 03-26-2010, 07:50 AM [QUOTE=Doublerunner;757017]I know this won't be a popular post here but I do hate tournaments such as this. Unless the tournament is strictly catch and release with penalties against killed fish then these things have the potential to bring out the worst in some. I know there are many fine fishermen and people on this site and others that participate in this tournament and others. And not everyone will abandon their principles for the sake of a tournament. But some do. And in a time when the viability of the stock is in doubt as to it's future then perhaps it may be best to forego the tournaments and just fish for the enjoyment.
Last year there were over 3000 anglers entered and on average, fewer than 30 fish per week were weighed in. (from On The Water April 2010)
That doesn't seem that bad to me.
Back Beach 03-26-2010, 07:52 AM I love it when the odds are against me,infact I wouldn't have it any other way:smokin:
Me too, its the biggest reason I fish in this thing aside from the the cameraderie and funny %$%$%$%$ that happens.
Fact is there's 4-5 really good teams with a shot at victory, ours included.
CowHunter 03-26-2010, 07:59 AM I know this won't be a popular post here but I do hate tournaments such as this. Unless the tournament is strictly catch and release with penalties against killed fish then these things have the potential to bring out the worst in some. I know there are many fine fishermen and people on this site and others that participate in this tournament and others. And not everyone will abandon their principles for the sake of a tournament. But some do. And in a time when the viability of the stock is in doubt as to it's future then perhaps it may be best to forego the tournaments and just fish for the enjoyment.
I am fairly new to this and so perhaps I take a different view than some and this post is not intended to piss any one off. We all have the right to enjoy fishing in a manner that pleases ourselves and so long as it's within the laws then so be it. But please consider your actions and don't let things get out of hand.
I do believe that one of your own that has passed away recently was dead set against tournaments. I know it's a personal choice and for that reason I won't participate in any tournament unless it's strictly catch and release. But that's my choice. If you choose to kill every fish you catch then that's your choice. I just hope you won't and will consider more important things than stroking your ego or winning a tournament. Not saying that's why you all do it. Many times it's just the comaraderie that comes along with it and that part is great. Let's just be careful out there and not get too carried away.
Are there really teams that get paid to fish in a tournament like this?
"Team Striper Pro's" are only paid proffesionals from the rumors I hear... But hell, so many rumors I dont know whats true anymore...
Back Beach 03-26-2010, 08:40 AM so many rumors I dont know whats true anymore...
I hear there's a guy on Team Real Deal with a funny green bike and an even funnier green rod...:hee:
I tried my best to recruit him for S-B but he wouldn't budge...gotta admire his loyalty.
Rockport24 03-26-2010, 09:44 AM Well, I did hear "Team Mo Money" was covering all expenses... i dont even think it was appropriate to mention what the angler of the year prize money was... I declined.... I fish with Team Reel Deal... Everybody knows eachother... Just 18 strong that love to fish and know eachother!
this is freakin unreal to me. I assume it's tackle and boat companies sponsoring these guys and paying out these absurd amounts? Seems pretty dumb to me if it's done on the sly like this, why not just go all the way and call it "Team Daiwa or Shimano" or whatever....
WESTPORTMAFIA 03-26-2010, 11:02 AM I know this won't be a popular post here but I do hate tournaments such as this. Unless the tournament is strictly catch and release with penalties against killed fish then these things have the potential to bring out the worst in some. I know there are many fine fishermen and people on this site and others that participate in this tournament and others. And not everyone will abandon their principles for the sake of a tournament. But some do. And in a time when the viability of the stock is in doubt as to it's future then perhaps it may be best to forego the tournaments and just fish for the enjoyment.
I am fairly new to this and so perhaps I take a different view than some and this post is not intended to piss any one off. We all have the right to enjoy fishing in a manner that pleases ourselves and so long as it's within the laws then so be it. But please consider your actions and don't let things get out of hand.
I do believe that one of your own that has passed away recently was dead set against tournaments. I know it's a personal choice and for that reason I won't participate in any tournament unless it's strictly catch and release. But that's my choice. If you choose to kill every fish you catch then that's your choice. I just hope you won't and will consider more important things than stroking your ego or winning a tournament. Not saying that's why you all do it. Many times it's just the comaraderie that comes along with it and that part is great. Let's just be careful out there and not get too carried away.
Are there really teams that get paid to fish in a tournament like this?
John these guys here are not the white bucket gang you need to worry about keeping all of the fish they catch. They are top notch fisherman. They do not kill all the fish they catch in fact I don't think anyone will be weighing fish in under 35lbs for the cup. Preaching is for church or maybe the political foum. :uhuh:
inTHERAPY 03-26-2010, 11:38 AM [QUOTE=CowHunter;756892]Well, I did hear "Team Mo Money" was covering all expenses... i dont even think it was appropriate to mention what the angler of the year prize money was... I declined.... I fish with Team Reel Deal... Everybody knows eachother... Just 18 strong that love to fish and know eachother![/QUOTE
You should see the graphics job on the new Fountains, yes plural, they just scored to help win the Cup!
Sea Flat 03-26-2010, 11:48 AM I sign up for the Striper Cup every year. I have never weighed in a fish. Mainly because I have caught a few 30+# fish, but nothing over 40# and not worth killing because it was not like I was going to win a weekly or monthly prize from them.
I mainly fish the Elizabeth Islands off of my 19' Seasworl Striper CC out of Fiddlers Cove in Falmouth. If you feel like I would truly be an asset to the team then I would be more than happy to. I usually fish a few times a week during the summer, but in the spring and fall I am quite busy. Not sure I would put in the time that most of you serious guys would put in. PM me if you want me to join the team.
Swimmer 03-26-2010, 12:49 PM I'm in again this year.
JohnR 03-26-2010, 01:17 PM PM me if you want me to join the team.
You've been PM'd
chefchris401 03-26-2010, 01:35 PM The striper cup does also run a catch and release part of the tourney.
more people all over the east coast keep bigger fish than the amount thats kept for this tournament.
Look at whats going on in VA and NC, charter boats keeping almost 30 fish from 40 to 60lbs, in one week!
I practice catch and release 99% of the time as do must of the people I fish with. Cant see this tournament being the downfall of our SB population.
MAKAI 03-26-2010, 01:43 PM Is the bash at the end of the year worth going to ?:buds:
PRBuzz 03-26-2010, 01:45 PM Bud Bowl this year.......
JFigliuolo 03-26-2010, 02:39 PM Not my thing... but good luck guys.
Mike P 03-26-2010, 02:52 PM Is the bash at the end of the year worth going to ?:buds:
Kinda sucked last year.
The beer was Gansett, and on top of that, it was warm :yak6:
It poured like hell the two days before and the property where the tent was put up is reclaimed wetland---quagmire was too modest a word.
3000+ people were crammed in under a tent, and it got hot as hell in there. But if you stepped outside, you were standing in ankle deep mud.
The ground under the tent was covered with hay that smelled like it was used and came straight from a rodeo.
There weren't a lot of good tackle displays present.
On the other hand, the food was from the Black Dog and it was pretty good :drool:
And the cover band was decent.
And then there's the drawing for the boat at the end, which is limted to people who both entered and are actually present--you'll never be in another raffle with as good a chance of winning anywhere else ;)
piemma 03-26-2010, 02:56 PM Speaking of which, I was at Dave's Market in Smithfield RI early this morning and they were putting fresh Striper in the fish case. Wonder where the hell that's coming from? $12.99 a pound if I remember right.
The striper cup does also run a catch and release part of the tourney.
more people all over the east coast keep bigger fish than the amount thats kept for this tournament.
Look at whats going on in VA and NC, charter boats keeping almost 30 fish from 40 to 60lbs, in one week!
I practice catch and release 99% of the time as do must of the people I fish with. Cant see this tournament being the downfall of our SB population.
MAKAI 03-26-2010, 03:03 PM Kinda sucked last year.
The beer was Gansett, and on top of that, it was warm :yak6:
It poured like hell the two days before and the property where the tent was put up is reclaimed wetland---quagmire was too modest a word.
3000+ people were crammed in under a tent, and it got hot as hell in there. But if you stepped outside, you were standing in ankle deep mud.
The ground under the tent was covered with hay that smelled like it was used and came straight from a rodeo.
There weren't a lot of good tackle displays present.
On the other hand, the food was from the Black Dog and it was pretty good :drool:
And the cover band was decent.
And then there's the drawing for the boat at the end, which is limted to people who both entered and are actually present--you'll never be in another raffle with as good a chance of winning anywhere else ;)
Hmmmm . . . . . sounds like a wedding ceremony I subjected people to.
Doublerunner 03-26-2010, 03:10 PM DR - I understand your sentiment. If ASMFC considers S-B in trouble, we will certainly revisit this. They don't. We need numbers.
As for the tournament, 95% of us are 99% Catch & Release. I don't think the net effect of this tournament is greater than 2-3 hot days days at any prime spot: Scortons, Providence, Canal, Jersey Beach, Block, etc...
John I have lurked here for quite a while and have read many of your posts. I respect you and your knowledge of the sport. I personally would not just base my thoughts on the fishery as a whole based on the ASMFC. Think about your catches over the last 5 years and those numbers. If they are consistent with most people I have talked to then the numbers are down in quantity and quality. Also the YOY index has not had it's usual spike upwards that it registers every 4-5 years and is overdue. That along with the bigger dead zones we are seeing along the coasts and the taking of Menhaden and all the by catch concerns. Well it just seems to me the pressure on the fishery is unsustainable. And tournaments add to that pressure. Again, I know there are many fine upstanding members here and elsewhere but if we're killing 35# + fish for the sake of winning a tournament then in these times I feel that is wrong. We don't need to eat that fish nor do we need that fish to pad our ego. I'd say that fish would be more productive alive and able to still breed. Again that is just my opinion and why I don't endorse tournaments. If we all took less then there would be more in the future. Not everyone looks at it that way and I believe tournaments can bring out the worst in some
Anyways just because this is not for me does not mean it is not for everyone. Good luck and I hope everyone who does participate enjoys themselves responsibly
Doublerunner 03-26-2010, 03:14 PM John these guys here are not the white bucket gang you need to worry about keeping all of the fish they catch. They are top notch fisherman. They do not kill all the fish they catch in fact I don't think anyone will be weighing fish in under 35lbs for the cup. Preaching is for church or maybe the political foum. :uhuh:
Do I know you???
Well so long as you only kill fish over 35 pounds then I guess that makes it alright....:huh:
Doublerunner 03-26-2010, 03:24 PM The striper cup does also run a catch and release part of the tourney.
more people all over the east coast keep bigger fish than the amount thats kept for this tournament.
Look at whats going on in VA and NC, charter boats keeping almost 30 fish from 40 to 60lbs, in one week!
I practice catch and release 99% of the time as do must of the people I fish with. Cant see this tournament being the downfall of our SB population.
Chris I want to preface this by saying that I have a ton of respect for you as a person and as a fisherman.
I agree that this tournament would not alone cause the downfall of the stocks. But I also feel if we all took that attitude then the chance of that happening is greater. Whereas if we all took a little less then the chance of that happening is lesser. And what happens in other states does not just give us license to do the same. I know what you're getting at but I just look at it differently and I don't want to justify killing cows here as being okay because people elsewhere do it and also sometimes do it illegally ( out past the eez, etc). That does not make me right or wrong. And I hope people can also respect my difference of opinion here and perhaps appreciate where I am coming from on this. And I do hope that all the big breeders are caught by the C&R guys and gals but somehow I doubt that.
I also feel there is added pressure on results if fishermen are getting paid to catch as that creates pressure to win and to provide lots of photos of dead cows
Rockport24 03-26-2010, 03:25 PM too bad any thread about the cup has to turn into some kind of disagreement like this :rollem:
WESTPORTMAFIA 03-26-2010, 03:31 PM Do I know you???
Well so long as you only kill fish over 35 pounds then I guess that makes it alright....:huh:
I easily caught over 100 fish last year that were legal to keep. I kept maybe 6 of them. Your way off topic and shouldn't have posted this save the stripers in this thread. I know guys last year in your conservation group that caught alot less fish than I did and kept more of them. The thread wasn't labeled. How do you feel about fish or how do you feel about tourneys. Lets get it back on track. Do I know you? Come on dude:smash:
CowHunter 03-26-2010, 04:02 PM Common Guys, Dont you know Mass Commercial guys are killing all the bass!!!!
Doublerunner 03-26-2010, 04:12 PM I easily caught over 100 fish last year that were legal to keep. I kept maybe 6 of them. Your way off topic and shouldn't have posted this save the stripers in this thread. I know guys last year in your conservation group that caught alot less fish than I did and kept more of them. The thread wasn't labeled. How do you feel about fish or how do you feel about tourneys. Lets get it back on track. Do I know you? Come on dude:smash:
Again I will say that just because one person keeps many fish does not make it alright for everyone else to use that excuse. Last year of all the guys I fished with I saw a total of 4 fish kept. Were there more? Of course. Again I will not use that as an excuse to keep what I want
I was trying to be polite and keep this on track but just presenting my feelings. You don't have to agree but no need to hammer me either. To all of you that do participate...good luck and be safe
chefchris401 03-26-2010, 04:25 PM OK back to the topic here.
Team Striped-Bass
Is there a limit on club size?
How does the catch and release work towards the points?
Sorry I just havent had time to read thru all the On the water stuff.
Ive never done any tournament due to my lack of time for the designated spots, like the habs or korkers cup etc. My availibilty sucks due to work but seeing this is 5 months long and I fish alot just not on the weekends for the most part, seems like something worth trying out.
Ive meet some great people here and hoping to build stronger friendships with those people and fish some new spots and learn new some new techinques and what not.
Im a huge fan of this forum and its members, I dont post on everything I see and keep my opinions to myself for the most part, but I think this is a great way to make some new friends and just get out and fish.
JohnR 03-26-2010, 04:31 PM Guys, move the fisheries management discussions into another thread please. We have and have had plenty opportunities to hash this out. Believe me, I'm all for reducing the pressure on the fish. This thread is for signing up for the cup.
As for Team S-B's participation in the Striper Cup, that is based on the numbers provided by ASMFC. If those numbers drop or tank I can assure you we'll take a hard look as to whether or not we participate.
DR - as or my years, I've had my best in a while season before last. Last year was mediocre. One cannot judge a season by a handful of locations. That's why the overall ASMFC numbers, as loosely consistent as they may be, are what we need to go by.
JohnR 03-26-2010, 04:37 PM Is there a limit on club size?
How does the catch and release work towards the points?
Chris - no real limit on size. My impression I got talking to some OTW folks was that we were midsized in number of participants with one club having twice as many entered as S-B.
C&R does not count towards team standings. Wish it did but enforcement would be difficult at best.
BassDawg 03-27-2010, 09:48 AM thanks for clearing that up with,
DR, Boss! i was about to have to
break out the DAWWWWG on his,
"woe is me, the po,,,,,,,poe,,,,,,,,, PO
Strigh Ped bassies!! they cain't sustain themselves!!
you guys are ALLL evil, insensitive, kittyfishin', BASTAGES!!!"
MOST here are some of the MOST responsible and fishery aware surfcasters i've ever met. the boat guys are no dummies either. we actually realize the portent of our actions and respect the inherent values, financially and metaphysically, that are attached to our beloved species and are incumbent upon us to protect, enjoy, and leave as a thriving and viable legacy for the generations of anglers that will surely follow~~~
and they shall, on one dark and surf laden night enter in to the quintessential tie that has bound generations upon generations of New Englanders and "foreigners" alike,,,,,,,,the sweet sound of a screaming reel and the hard bend of a doubled rod as a new trophy swims for the deep beyond, to be kept or not to be kept,,,,,,,,,,,,,
it is for each "Striper Nobleman" to question. and we NEED to get back our BLING!!! besides,,,,,,,,,,,,Team Striper cannot 3peat, can they???
:gh: :btu: :btu: :btu: :gh:
ThrowingTimber 03-27-2010, 04:30 PM I enjoy fishing the tournament. Last year was the first year since it began that I got something worth weighing in. ( 1 fish weighed ever) I'm far from being a threat to the species at that rate. :wall:
I'm looking forward to getting out again with the added incentive of hopefully helping out the team. I enjoy fishing :) I always have. I'm a competitive person by nature so its nice to make a concerted effort to bring my A game.
Now if we could get Miller Lite as a sponsor I'd be Frank the tanking it by the time they announced the winners at the wrap up party :buds:
Good luck everyone, I hope everyone has a safe and productive season :buds:
Anyone get their official striper cup t-shirt yet. Hopefully it's bright red with a huge BUD KING OF BASS logo ala' an old Dale Jr. pit crew jersey. Something real classy ya' know. I would dig that.
I'm definitely in.
Me too, its the biggest reason I fish in this thing aside from the the cameraderie and funny %$%$%$%$ that happens.
Fact is there's 4-5 really good teams with a shot at victory, ours included.
BB;
Glad to hear your on the Team,true.......I think we have a great shot at getting our trophy back:fishin:
Sea Dangles 03-28-2010, 07:58 AM Not until it is filled with Iron puke one more time.
If and when there is a threepeat Team Striper will disband to make it fair for the internet wannabees.
Back Beach 03-28-2010, 03:03 PM to make it fair for the internet wannabees.
....said the man with 1200 posts on S-B....whoops, you've got 1284 posts on S-B and counting....admit it, you're one of the minyans here and you love it...:wavey: you've also been a member here longer than most everyone else too...:uhuh:
The team striper thing is just a front....most of the guys on Team Striper probably don't even know who you are....come into our living room here and you're well known... loved by some, loathed by others, but you're one of us...quit faking it and join us for the striper cup, you big ole wannabee :want:
I'll buy the croissants...maybe NIB will take note and make a cameo appearance. :lama:
Sea Flat 03-28-2010, 04:14 PM Chris - no real limit on size. My impression I got talking to some OTW folks was that we were midsized in number of participants with one club having twice as many entered as S-B.
Then count me in. When I sign up I just register as a member of Team Striped-Bass.com?
Sea Dangles 03-28-2010, 05:19 PM ....said the man with 1200 posts on S-B....whoops, you've got 1284 posts on S-B and counting....admit it, you're one of the minyans here and you love it...:wavey: you've also been a member here longer than most everyone else too...:uhuh:
The team striper thing is just a front....most of the guys on Team Striper probably don't even know who you are....come into our living room here and you're well known... loved by some, loathed by others, but you're one of us...quit faking it and join us for the striper cup, you big ole wannabee :want:
I'll buy the croissants...maybe NIB will take note and make a cameo appearance. :lama:
If you buy my boat then I buy the croissants.It always provides pictures in May for those who wannabee in pictures.
Love it here but usually fish in a small circle.I expect things will be different this year with a few more options for species and more opportunities for stripers.
Circlehook 03-28-2010, 06:12 PM Hey BB, is that an eelbob in your avatar?
Mike P 03-28-2010, 07:26 PM Anyone get their official striper cup t-shirt yet. Hopefully it's bright red with a huge BUD KING OF BASS logo ala' an old Dale Jr. pit crew jersey. Something real classy ya' know. I would dig that.
I'm definitely in.
They're dark blue.
ProfessorM 03-28-2010, 07:44 PM Not until it is filled with Iron puke one more time.
If and when there is a threepeat Team Striper will disband to make it fair for the internet wannabees.
i got to admit Chris is an expert at poking the dragon, I gotta respect that.:uhuh:
tattoobob 03-28-2010, 08:03 PM I signed up this year, because I actually plan on doing some fishing this year.
does kayak count as shore or boat?
Green Light 03-28-2010, 09:32 PM I am in.
I signed up at the RISAA show.
striperman36 03-28-2010, 09:34 PM I signed up this year, because I actually plan on doing some fishing this year.
does kayak count as shore or boat?
you have a kayak?
Back Beach 03-29-2010, 06:45 AM Hey BB, is that an eelbob in your avatar?
Its a 2.5 oz alewife sluggo I took out of Tony O's bag when he wasn't looking.:angel:
l.i.fish.in.vt 03-29-2010, 06:57 AM Bob,here is another question,you paddle your bait or sluggos out with the kayak, paddle back in and spike your rod,then catch a fish while standing on the beach,shore or boat fish?
Back Beach 03-29-2010, 07:04 AM Bob,here is another question,you paddle your bait or sluggos out with the kayak, paddle back in and spike your rod,then catch a fish while standing on the beach,shore or boat fish?
To me, the entire process has to be completed from shore in order to call it shore caught....cast-hook-battle-land.
I've seen instances where folks will call a kayak fish a shore fish and it just doesn't hold water with me. I've also seen people hook fish in kayaks, land on shore, beach the fish, then call it surf caught. It gives true surf fishing a bad name.
Kayak= boat without a motor, plain and simple.
Skishing= modified form of boat fishing too and not surf fishing in its traditional form. By this I mean drifting through the water in a wetstuit like a "human boat."
Using a wetsuit to access distant ground is surf fishing provided you do everything(cast-hook-battle-land) from a fixed position once you start fishing.
Clogston29 03-29-2010, 08:03 AM i'm in. won't be fishing nearly as much as usual but maybe i'll luck into something decent. unless we get some very nice boat fish weighed in, i'm guessing that we'll have to average around 44-45 lbs per fish to be in the running near the end.
They're dark blue.
Well, that's better than the cream colored ones a couple of years ago.
GattaFish 03-29-2010, 10:29 AM I'm in,,, Hopefully I can hang something large on the Cutty trip
Rockport24 03-29-2010, 11:54 AM I signed up this year, because I actually plan on doing some fishing this year.
does kayak count as shore or boat?
I remember checking this last year and kayak counts as a boat, which is why it's cool that they let you sign up in both divisions now.
maddmatt 03-29-2010, 12:00 PM Bob,here is another question,you paddle your bait or sluggos out with the kayak, paddle back in and spike your rod,then catch a fish while standing on the beach,shore or boat fish?
boat
t.orlando 03-29-2010, 12:20 PM I'm in.
BassDawg 03-29-2010, 01:05 PM VERRRRY Cool!
glad to hear that you're with us, Tony~~~
so, JimmySly!!! it's up to you, the Last of the COWhicans!!!
PLEEEEEEZ, doan tell me you've gone the weigh of free agency,
you've brokered a deal with the Iron One in exchange for yer sole,
or that in some moment of suds-induced weakness you agreed to
feesh for the team that REALLY needs another high hooker.
seriously, are they that skeered of us to come and steal some of our BEST SURFMEN that we have? to each his own, Jim, but we would love to have you do battle with us and at least make them earn their 3peat. besides isn't that alot like suitin' up for the Lakers?
SCREW KobeROBtaylobie, IronYODA, HanEarl Solo, and Chris Seawalker Dangles!!!
we need ya more than they do, don't we?? let yer conscience be your guide, m'man!!
there, MY PLEA is done!
:bl: :bl: :bl: :bl:
johnny ducketts 03-29-2010, 01:19 PM I'm in , just signed up.
tattoobob 03-29-2010, 03:38 PM you have a kayak?
Sure do
tattoobob 03-29-2010, 03:39 PM Bob,here is another question,you paddle your bait or sluggos out with the kayak, paddle back in and spike your rod,then catch a fish while standing on the beach,shore or boat fish?
Shore, I believe it is where it is landed and unhooked
jim sylvester 03-29-2010, 05:51 PM I'm in
with S-B.com
NOW LETS BRING THIS GOD DAMN CUP BACK HOME!!!!!!!!!!
Dad 818 03-29-2010, 06:34 PM John R, check your PMs please.
linesider69 03-30-2010, 12:30 AM Im in!
BassDawg 03-30-2010, 06:06 AM I'm in
with S-B.com
NOW LETS BRING THIS GOD DAMN CUP BACK HOME!!!!!!!!!!
:jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1:
my faith has just been restored in humanity!!!
Crazy Chuckie is on board, as well~~~~
and ALL of God's Surfmen said,
"AAAAAY AY AY MEN,,,,,,AAAAAAY AY AY MEN!
AAAAAY AYAY MEN,,,,,AAAYMEN~AAAYMEN!!!"
Jimmy and Chuck, pm's coming about some very interesting
NShore intel i just p'd/up yesterday from some Ironworkers~~~
am waiting for the pictures to confirm the story that was :btu: :btu: :btu:
Dad 818 03-30-2010, 09:40 AM ROSTER FOR THE CUP (47)
5/0
angler229
Back Beach
bart
Bass Dawg
BMEUPSCOTTY
Brian S (& Dad)
Bronko
Capt Mike
chefchris401
chrisjoe13
Circlehook
Clogston29
Dad 818
Diggin Jiggin
eskimo
Fish360
fishbones
Gatta Fish
Jimbo
jim sylvester
JLH
johnny ducketts
John R
luds
Mike P.
NE-Stripes
PR Buzz
quick decision
Rappin Mikey
redlite
RI Plugger
Rob Rockcrawler
Sea Flat
southpond
STREET FIGHT
striperman 36
Surf Caster 413
Swimmer
t. orlando
tattoobob
The Specialist
Throwing Timber
tynan19
Uncle Rob
WESTPORT MAFIA
Will keep track as we go. Sorry if I missed ya. Post it here and I will adjust the list.
redlite 03-30-2010, 10:26 AM All I can say is WOW.
We have some passionate fishermen that have answered the call.
Thank you.
Now lets do it.
Good luck to everyone and I look forward to the stories and results.
Let's do this Brutus.
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