What is NASA? Once it was an organization that brought a country together in a quest for science, ingenuity, and significantly dangerous frontiers. Back then, it inspired young kids like me to (attempt) to be more interested in the sciences. America went to the moon.

In more recent decades it has been less of science, ingenuity, and significantly dangerous frontiers and more of FEDEX - certainly at the business end of rocket. Yeh, nice stuff in there like Hubble, (some of) the mars robots.

But what's up with today? The Chief of NASA interviewed on Al Jezeera stated that one of NASA top 3 priorities was to reach out to the Muslim world, to make them feel more comfortable in their contributions to science.

Crash Stop.

:bs:

Making Muslims feel good? Really? Is this some kind of joke? Another absurd misdirection of funds?

I significantly agree that we've done a peeess poor job of marketing ourselves on the "Muslim Street"

But NASA?

We bombed the livin fark out of Germany and Japan for YEARS. Destroyed every major city, killed millions of civilans. Just over 60 years ago. Every person alive in Germany and Japan has living relatives who where some way impacted by US action.
They're our largest business partners, allies and if I'm not mistaken, have great realtionships on many levels.
So why are we kissin Muslim butt?

So why are we kissin Muslim butt?

Paranoia.....

We're wussies....

Pick one....sadly

We're 11 years behind SPACE 1999....NASA needs to worry about making that happen....that would be cool

I watched the video of the interview and have a few remarks.

1) I think I own that exact same sport coat.

2) This might not be as crazy as it first sounds.

The International Space Station is about the only big ticket space item on display right now, and it's a great opportunity to push Islamic nations towards inclusion rather than letting fundamentalist voices shelter their people from the Western world and the global community.

It sends a great message to people in countries like Iran who have a very strong educational and scientific background, but today have no way to apply it other than building secret nuclear facilities.

Certainly, more inclusion in collaborative international efforts means less energy spent on terrorism, oppression or other destructive work.

I'd say this is less about Muslim outreach and more a sneaky plot to subvert radicalized authorities and secure our long-term freedoms.

-spence

The engagement of Islamists, the embrace of their case against American capitalism, is a progressive cause célèbre and this administration they will use any means, even NASA, to foster that relationship(see Elena Kagen and sharia law at the Harvard Law School).....if you are an enemy of America, it's traditions and free market capitalistic history, you are warmly embraced by the progressives, just note who your president has enthusiastically hugged in the past, and who he has turned a cold shoulder to...unless he needs a photo op to sure up an eroding base, then he will grudgingly fake it but he never misses an opportunity to take a cheap shot when he's kicking you out the back door....if you call for adherence to our Constitution, free market principles, limited government and the rule of law.. etc....you are viciously attacked and impuned...isn't that obvious by now? :confused:

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...or something like that...


things are REALLY CHANGING...buckle your seatbelts

is one of those "contributions to science" the advancements in reattaching severed limbs??? :rotf2:

2) This might not be as crazy as it first sounds.

The International Space Station is about the only big ticket space item on display right now, and it's a great opportunity to push Islamic nations towards inclusion rather than letting fundamentalist voices shelter their people from the Western world and the global community.

It sends a great message to people in countries like Iran who have a very strong educational and scientific background, but today have no way to apply it other than building secret nuclear facilities.

Certainly, more inclusion in collaborative international efforts means less energy spent on terrorism, oppression or other destructive work.

-spence

The ISS is our only big ticket display, remember, we can't do it on our own now (we're broke and getting more broke, remember? spending like drunken sailors - no offense to drunken sailors).

Meanwhile, China is planning appropriately for the moon while we can't even get back, let alone go beyond.

I'm all for Muslim OutReach and inclusion. Something squandered for some time now.

But NASA is the NATIONAL Aeronautic and Space Administration. Not the Muslim Feel Good And Science Outreach.

By all means get them on board, but we seem to spend our declining budget making nice - nice.

I'd say this is less about Muslim outreach and more a sneaky plot to subvert radicalized authorities and secure our long-term freedoms. :rotf2:

But NASA is the NATIONAL Aeronautic and Space Administration. Not the Muslim Feel Good And Science Outreach.

By all means get them on board, but we seem to spend our declining budget making nice - nice.
I think the feel good comment was just his lack of public exposure showing...it came off a little clumsy.

I'm not sure how much budget is going into this, it looks more like a glorified book tour.

-spence

I think the feel good comment was just his lack of public exposure showing...it came off a little clumsy.

I'm not sure how much budget is going into this, it looks more like a glorified book tour.

-spence

spin, spin, spin

I just heard Obama's speech today...apparently even he has become extremely bored and uninspired by his lies.....

although, with each passing speech, he sounds more like a dictator... and much less like an elected public servant and temporary occupant of the White House

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/political-threads/64842-huh.html

Just what I want! An olive branch extended to radical muslims and 'students' of Islamic nations to build a bond with NASA. Maybe someday we can teach those kooky Iranian kids more about rocket propulsion, turbo thrusters and nuclear lode delivery.

Let's just start them off with freshman level stuff like tolerance for other religions, maybe strip them of their indoctrinated hatred of all things America and convince them bomb plots in nations with democracies must come to an end.

At that point I might be alright with a few guided tours at out various NASA facilities and maybe a pair of clip on plastic wings for their lapels.

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/political-threads/64842-huh.html

sorry Salty, the point was that we now have a president that has decided that every thing will be done HIS way, he willl determine what our future is(hope you've caught a listen to his speeches over the last three days) and he will even charge the head of NASA with the priority of outreach to the worldwise muslims...as if one has anything to do with the other...this follows the dismantling of what NASA "should" be doing and creating more unemployed Americans

Huge Job Losses After Shuttle Program Ends, NASA HintsThe Associated Press in Miami, Florida
April 2, 2008
More than 8,000 NASA contractor jobs in the United States' manned space program could be eliminated after the space shuttle program is shut down in 2010, the U.S. space agency said Tuesday.

NASA Job Loss Bigger Than First Thought
Posted: 5:43 pm EDT June 1, 2009
Updated: 6:53 pm EDT June 1, 2009

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. -- The job outlook on the space coast may be even worse than first thought. Originally, NASA predicted it would lay off 3,500 workers at Kennedy Space Center when the shuttle fleet retires.

However, that prediction has gone up to at least 4,000 employees. KSC's new director raised eyebrows with his newest prediction that NASA would layoff 4,000 employees, 400 more than the number NASA gave in October of last year.

"The job impact is likely to keep growing," said Dale Ketchum, UCF Spaceport Technology and Institute.


but at least we can reassure the newly unemployed that we'll be helping the muslims around the world with their self-esteem issues...maybe there will be new jobs for translators

How do you say "Put the pointy end that way" in Farsi?

Seriously, I would welcome more dialogue with Iran, pending a few changes in their outlook on the world.

I'm having a hard time understanding why this guy has been tasked with this...if true.

I'm disgusted with this country lately. %$%$%$%$ everyone else. Let's fix %$%$%$%$ in this country first.

How do you say "Put the pointy end that way" in Farsi?

Seriously, I would welcome more dialogue with Iran, pending a few changes in their outlook on the world.

before or after they stone this poor woman to death shortly ?
Iran Set to Stone Woman To Death — After Giving Her 99 Lashes — For Adultery
Published 1, July 6, 2010

We often run Iranian blogs to show clown-like policies such as requiring Islamic haircuts or mannequin mascetomies. However, it is important to remember the plight of women and dissidents under Iran’s medieval Sharia system. There is no more frightening example than the scheduled stoning of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, 43, for conducting an “illicit relationship outside marriage.” Convicted in May 2006, Ashtiani has already been given 99 lashes under her Sharia sentence.

She was originally acquitted, but under the Iranian “legal system” a judge is allowed to reverse such decisions based on “judge’s knowledge.” She has been in jail for five years and will now be buried up to her neck (men are buried to the waist) and then stoned to death

I wish the world would work together to solve it's problems and stop screwing up this world we live in before they go and F up some other planet:wall:

some advancements mankind has made are irreversible
enough is enough

What is NASA? Once it was an organization that brought a country together in a quest for science, ingenuity, and significantly dangerous frontiers. Back then, it inspired young kids like me to (attempt) to be more interested in the sciences. America went to the moon.



Our problem is we as a country always had a purpose that brought us together.

We were the defenders of Freedom and Liberty throughoutthe world in the 40's and 50's,then Kennedy brought us together with NASA,
but Vietnam,drugs and racial unrest tore us apart in the 60's.

Regan brought us back together with patriotism but Big G seperated us again
by chipping away at out Freedoms and Liberties.

Now Big G is taking big hunks out of both and divided us between a large socialistic gov and a smaller gov that allows individualism and the freedoms our
country was founded on.

Imo, we are divided now, at least in my lifetime, more than at any other time that I can remember.
We need to be proud of what all the good we have done for the world and come together as one rather than tear our country apart for our faults.

We need leadership that understands a house divided against itself cannot stand and knows unless we stand for something we will fall for anything.

FOXNews.com - Muslim Outreach Not the Job of NASA, White House Says (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/white-house-muslim-outreach-task-nasa/)

These guys are sure putting the A S S back in NASA

Just something else for them to blow up!

FOXNews.com - Muslim Outreach Not the Job of NASA, White House Says (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/white-house-muslim-outreach-task-nasa/)

These guys are sure putting the A S S back in NASA

Come on, this is great PR and exactly as I suspected. They're blowing a bunch of smoke overseas to stir the pot while keeping the domestic agenda on track.

When Storm'in Norm used the media to broadcast false invasion plans in 1991 people thought it was brilliant.

-spence

Come on, this is great, smoke pot while keeping the domestic agenda on track.
-spence :grins:

well not exactly in those words.....
but at least toothpaste wasn't the defense.


no, but in reaction to Nasa's new Mission

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