BP Cap is holding for now. No oil for the first time in 86 days is spewing into the Gulf.

Lets hope it holds until the relief wells are drilled.

Don't know if this has been posted but thought it was worthy of the main forum.

That is great news. I still cant comprehend how it took 86 days to put a lid on that thing.

That is great news. I still cant comprehend how it took 86 days to put a lid on that thing.

this is what happens when there are to many agencies involved

almost 200 million gallons of oil spilt out in 86 days

I guess BP was right when thy said 3 months to stop the oil flow

A S S Holes

I burn a lot of gas.
I use a lot of epoxy.
I burn a lot of electricity.
I use a lot of graphite.
I eat a lot of trucked food.
I use aluminum reels.
I use synthetic line.
I use imported hooks.
I use gortex coats and waders.
I use neoprene wetsuits.
I have plastic tubes in my surf bag.
I use a nylon surf bag.

BP gets me what I want, even when it is not easy. So who is to blame? By the way, I think it is closer 200 million gallons, not 2 million.

I burn a lot of gas.
I use a lot of epoxy.
I burn a lot of electricity.
I use a lot of graphite.
I eat a lot of trucked food.
I use aluminum reels.
I use synthetic line.
I use imported hooks.
I use gortex coats and waders.
I use neoprene wetsuits.
I have plastic tubes in my surf bag.
I use a nylon surf bag.

BP gets me what I want, even when it is not easy. So who is to blame? By the way, I think it is closer 200 million gallons, not 2 million.

I meant to type 200, I fixed it

Could have been fixed 85 days ago.....
All they had to do was throw a wedding ring down the hole and it would have closed itself up.......

Disaster History

Oil Spill Timeline on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/12933322)

I'm really interested to see when this goes criminal. BP clearly misled the Feds with the disaster plans they filed to get their permit. I'm not sure the "everybody does it" defense will hold.

These guys have been clearing 25B in profit a quarter. I'd agree that they're taking huge risks to justify that return.

Seems like now the people are going to get their dividend.

-spence

Now if they can keep it closed.

Could have been fixed 85 days ago.....
All they had to do was throw a wedding ring down the hole and it would have closed itself up....... :rotf2:

That is great news. I still cant comprehend how it took 86 days to put a lid on that thing.

Rob, i'll try to explain~~~

my family was in the Awl Bidness in Tulsa/Drumright, OK
ex step-dad is a petroleum geologist, driller, and well-servicing company(soup to nutz) and i worked in The Patch
in my early 20's. so i have a little background, although what they are doing, so deep underwater, is like drilling on a foreign planet.

and therein lies the problem. imagine 2500 lbs/cubic .5", shifting currents, impossible for human interaction temps, AND this has never happened, and certainly not at this depth. of course the red tape and other issues complicate matters; but, truly these are uncharted waters they've gotten themselves into and they are literally inventing the methods and equipment as they go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

the relief wells should work, this is a common practice on-shore and i think they do it regularly off-shore, also. oil zones(beneath the earth's surface) are volatile "creatures" and then there is the snafu factor when you are involved with plate tectonics, gas pressures, and the inherent dangers and difficulties that go with extracting the earth's blood, so to speak.

i mean isn't it there for a reason? just because we figured out how to get it, doesn't mean that it is ours, OR that it should be removed, no? oilmen are the biggest shiesters on the planet. truly, a dispicable lot! the character in "There Will Be Blood" was spot on, imho :yak5: :yak5: :yak5:

ahhhhh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but that's different forum/thread entirely!

Now if they can keep it closed.

:rotf2:

well, my woman threw a weddin ring on my finger a few years ago , it clogged up everything else in my life and still is so who knowss. Ilve heard of it lastin a life time for others........

the day she decides to "unclog" it....be prepared for even more life changes 9 months later...:uhuh:,,,,,,,careful what ya wish for

..Those maggots want that oil to keep flowing...Go GREEN...Go GREEN!!:smash:

They've already said even if it holds they're going to turn it back on!

"they don't want to interfere with their seismic surveys" WTF :smash:

seep. ruh roh.
BP oil spill: cap to remain closed despite 'seep' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7898933/BP-oil-spill-cap-to-remain-closed-despite-seep.html)

They can estimate how much has spilled, but is there a way to tell how much has been cleaned up to date?

when all the mutant Babies start getting born
down south

and in Mexico as a result of spraying all total 187 million gallons
or corexit...(same toxicity as agent orange) every night
for 80 days

something as non hazardous as black crude oil in the water
will be ..............no longer an issue.

when all the mutant Babies start getting born
down south

and in Mexico as a result of spraying all total 187 million gallons
or corexit...(same toxicity as agent orange) every night
for 80 days

something as non hazardous as black crude oil in the water
will be ..............no longer an issue.

Oil Spill Dispersants are widely used but........
The dispersant in use in the Gulf Oil Spill.....Go to the web site for the manufacture, NALCO, find the MSDS sheet for COREXIT 9500 that's provided and take a look. It's ten pages. From the MSDS sheet,
" Human Hazard Characterization: Based upon our hazard characterization, the potential human hazard is: Moderate".

It's nasty stuff! The fishermen in the Gulf are slowly returning to work but after reading this MSDS sheet I wonder how the fish and shrimp are both today and in the future?

the thing that you have to ask yourself, would i eat any fish or shrimp from the gulf.
we saw on the tube what the skimmers did but not what was lurking under the waves. that's where the heavier crude lies.

Oil Spill Dispersants are widely used but........
The dispersant in use in the Gulf Oil Spill.....Go to the web site for the manufacture, NALCO, find the MSDS sheet for COREXIT 9500 that's provided and take a look. It's ten pages. From the MSDS sheet,
" Human Hazard Characterization: Based upon our hazard characterization, the potential human hazard is: Moderate".

It's nasty stuff! The fishermen in the Gulf are slowly returning to work but after reading this MSDS sheet I wonder how the fish and shrimp are both today and in the future?

According to Wikipedia, the EPA found Corex to be "either similarly toxic or 10 to 20 times more toxic" when compared to 12 other options.

Seems like the EPA has told BP to stop using Corex a couple times and BP has refused. I wonder if there's any coincidence between BP's preference for Corex and their association with Nalco Holding Company, the company that produces Corex.

the thing that you have to ask yourself, would i eat any fish or shrimp from the gulf.
we saw on the tube what the skimmers did but not what was lurking under the waves. that's where the heavier crude lies.
Not a chance. Corex has been shown to bio-accumulate, so it will be interesting (and depressing) to see what animals further up the food chain will be affected.

Johnny, I'm sad to say the earth we are leaving you and your future children is a far worse place than was left to us.

We don't belong here.

They said on the deadliest catch that the area of the Exxon/Valdese spill still hasn't turn around and most likely never will.Complete healthy fishery gone.Fisherman with nothing.30 years after the fact.

21 years after not 30 , but it still sucks

which means the gulf is dead....

fines will be in the billions

21 years after not 30 , but it still sucks

I thought they said 30.Thanks for setting me straight.:buds: I really hope the area rebounds but after hearing from the guys who fished Alaska in that area I've lost all hope at this point.Sad thing is BP knows it.Wiped out entire generations of sea life.

on TV last night

there was a spotlight on this one family down there

the husband was ferrying oiled pelicans as his job
instead of fishing

the wife was saying see all this oil :point:
pointing to the oil filled Marsh in their backyard
it isn't going anywhere.... she said

the daughter was covered in Measle like red bumps
from the toxic spray... corexit

thats where the skin starts taking over when the
liver is totally saturated.....truly a sad situation

One difference about Prince William Sound versus the gulf. During Exxon Valdez, they power washed the beach which pushed oil down deep into the sand, sterilized the beach of micro organisms, and became the clarion call for environmentalists. The cause was a f***ed up crew plowing into a well marked hazard to navigation, not the oil being used by humans.

Same for the gulf of mexico, the cause was an industrial accident where a series of safety systems failed during a catastrophic explosion that no one has determined yet what happened, not the oil we use. It has to be cleaned up as best as humanly possible.

Now the Gulf is different, the cleanup, minus the dispersants, is the act of removing the oil from beach by scooping versus powerwashing it with Dawn soap. Right now they are not driving the oil into the ground. Hopefully that will continue.

What I really hope is that the knee jerk politicians will stop closing fisheries. Let's hope they can open the tuna season back up.

"We will restore the condition of the Gulf to better than before" -Obama

What planet is this guy from? Does he realize you cant just "print" another ocean like you can money?

who gave the authority to either BP or it's sub contractors to use the lethal dispersant?

Will their feet be held to the fire for this?

who gave the authority to either BP or it's sub contractors to use the lethal dispersant?

Will their feet be held to the fire for this?

Thad Allen was on the job since Day One, at least that is what the president said. That the government always had their boot to the throat of BP. So, No, the government will not hold themselves accountable, but they will hold BP accountable, even though they were there from Day one, as we have been informed starting on about day 9.

Using dispersants and containing oil was part of the non-existent government approved plan that they had for a long time.

"We will restore the condition of the Gulf to better than before" -Obama

What planet is this guy from? Does he realize you cant just "print" another ocean like you can money?

I agree, how do you make the ocean better than before, practically speaking? Wasn't it naturally perfect?:smash:

I've never been a tree hugger nor do I belong to Greenpeace but I am just a senior who is an avid surf fisherman. To that end I can't understand why the EPA allowed this dispersant to be used near/on such a delicate wetlands and in a large fish producing area.
To re-cap..........
For starters, the EPA allowed BP to spray a chemical dispersant, a product called Corexit, to break up oil right as it came out of BP's broken well nearly a mile below the surface. The idea was to save shorelines from being clobbered with vast waves of crude. In practice, the use of dispersants that had never been tested that far beneath the surface has made the oil much more difficult to track than it would have been in a single, massive slick. And environmentalists and marine biologists still aren't convinced the chemicals are safe for sea life.
The EPA halted underwater spraying while it tested samples collected by BP, then allowed it to resume once the results came back to the agency's satisfaction. Further tests are ongoing, and crews quit spraying dispersant once the well was contained this week, Jackson said. I don't know how it came back as being satisfactory having been label by the MSDS sheets with warning and now locals developing all sort of rashes.

As we all know, the oil did come ashore, dispite using this disperant. So the area got both harmful oil and harmful dispersant. I am thankful the loop current hasn't made the oil come arount the tip of Florida and flow northward.

spraying it by planes (air) at night ..... 187 million gallons were used

rashes signify that the body is loaded with toxins and the normal organs
that are dealing with them are over saturated