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AbuGarcia16 03-14-2003, 11:55 PM I am creating a tournament program this year for all types of anglers. I am having a couple of tournaments every month for fish like stripers, blues, largemouth/smallmouth bass and trout. It is $10 to enter in a tournament, and the winner takes 75% of the entry fees, the other 25% is what I get out of it for organizing it and sitting at the weigh in all day, and keeping records of the fish. For more information visit my site: www.geocities.com/hinghamfish/website.html
the first tournaments are being held in April for Trout, check out the site and read the information, you can also post fishing reports and check fishing reports.
-C.R
JrAngler 03-15-2003, 12:11 AM cool site. trout fishing, anyone know if the sea runs are still around or will be by April 12th and 26th? abu how many people have signed up for the next one?:happy:
AbuGarcia16 03-15-2003, 11:54 AM four people have signed up for the next two trout tournaments, so right now the pot is at $30. There are also some more people that havn't signed up yet, but will have by the next 2 days.
bassmaster 03-15-2003, 12:50 PM not for nothing John why dont We do that here and give the whole pot to the winner
JohnR 03-15-2003, 01:09 PM We do. It's called the 4 leg, we C&R the fish, and someone gets bragging rights :D :D
bassmaster 03-15-2003, 01:25 PM ok I B good:smash: :D as long as that Bum Bill aint in it:happy:
TheSpecialist 03-15-2003, 04:02 PM :doh:
bassmaster 03-15-2003, 06:33 PM :D
AbuGarcia16 03-15-2003, 07:26 PM :D
:)
:happy:
JohnR 03-15-2003, 07:30 PM Abu asked me last night if he could post this. I said OK and wanted to see what reaction you all have...
Scotch Bonnet 03-15-2003, 07:46 PM Its like fishin at Foxwoods
AbuGarcia16 03-15-2003, 07:48 PM foxwoods is a fun thing to do;)
DRUMCORPFAN 03-16-2003, 11:34 AM hate to see mobs of people now taking up fishing for a chance to win money. not to put down your idea abu and i'm sure you work hard to put it togather, but every two weeks. i know there are other contest during the season but not with that frequency. i do like the idea of the contest but i think it may attract people to the green, and not the fish. i was not into fishing when the striped bass seemed to disappear from our waters years ago, i know only the good fishing now and i like it. more money driven contest more people more trash no room no parking NO FISHING.
AbuGarcia16 03-16-2003, 03:53 PM DRUMCORPFAN, i understand what you are saying, i thought the same thing about "a tournament every 2 weeks". The reason why I am making these tournaments have a cash prize and are so recent is because now a days people don't have much time to fish, and if they sign up for something they will have the motivation to go out, and they can bring their kids and family with them to. Now about the prize, the tournaments aren't about the money, it is a bonus that comes with the fishing.
STRIPER77 03-16-2003, 04:25 PM Why does someone need a "bonus"?????????:confused: :confused: :confused:
AbuGarcia16 03-16-2003, 06:24 PM They don't need a "bonus", but are you telling me that you wouldn't like to get money for a day of fishing??????:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
redcrbbr 03-16-2003, 07:35 PM just having to bring a dead fish in to weigh. i'd rather have a witness with a pic. that would allow you to fish too.:D
Gloucester2 03-16-2003, 08:01 PM AB 16
come back when you're AB 32
Goose 03-16-2003, 08:02 PM I personely don't see anything wrong with those type tourneys. Large mouth tourney are held weekly in southern mass all the time. Some are well organized and respected.
As far as 75% payback, thats a turn off. I could see if you just enjoy being involved and small % is going to charties or a good cause.
As far as integrety, poop can realy get out of hand when your talkin salt water. I fished a tog tourney that got ugly when a couple of guys with lobster trap co. on their shirts showed up with a 11#, 14# and 15# togs. They took 1st 2nd and 3rd (all $'s).
I think with such a small pot your better off keeping the same regulars you fish with and keep it freindly
AbuGarcia16 03-16-2003, 10:22 PM If you think these tournaments are going to get out of hand like the one you were in, you are wrong. First of all there is only one winner for each tournament. And second of all, the 25% that i get out of it is only because I am the one organizing it for everyone, sitting at one spot the day weighing fish all day.
Mike P 03-16-2003, 10:31 PM Is there a limit on the number of entries you'll accept?
Team Rock On 03-16-2003, 10:44 PM Do you send 1099's to the winners at the end of the year?
AbuGarcia16 03-16-2003, 10:56 PM No there is no limit, and Teamrock on i cant answer your question because i dont know what you mean by 1099's. And i have one more thing to add, if you think that these tournaments won't run good, and there will be problems, all i have to say to that is you should try it before making assumptions.
Slipknot 03-16-2003, 11:29 PM You don't know what a 1099 is? and you are taking in money, and paying out money? You ever do this type of thing before? Better do some research if you don't know what a 1099 is.
AbuGarcia16 03-16-2003, 11:51 PM Alright, now i can answer your question teamrock on, no i dont, i dont plan for these tournaments to turn into a huge ordeal that will have conflicts in them, because that would take away the purpose, to have fun. Its just like when somebody wins money in a raffle at a local sports game, they dont send them a 1099 after.
Mike P 03-17-2003, 07:27 AM Most local sports raffles are run by tax-exempt charitable organizations.
JohnR 03-17-2003, 07:44 AM Abu - something to consider as some of these fellas are lawyers, CPAs, snake oil salesmen...
All legal issues asside, cheating and accusations are not uncommon in money tournaments. You say people are making assumptions here but understand a lot of people here are not new to the tournament game, whether shore or boat, whether participating or running these tourneys. One reason our Tourney is a free C&R tourney. It stays fun & fosters some competition.
ABU - how old are you? And does Old Salt B&T endorse this tournament...
Thanks,
John
Mike P 03-17-2003, 08:00 AM What John said ;)
No one here is questioning your motives---but I've been on this earth half a century and have seen tournaments among friends deteriorate into fights and finger-pointing over cheating. IMO hosting an internet tournament--even if billed as a friendly one---is opening up a can of worms like you never imagined.
You ever win more than $600 at Foxwoods or the track? Remember what you had to do and fill out to collect your winnings? There's tax consequences here that you are ignoring. Maybe the IRS will ignore them too, or maybe they won't. If they don't, you could have some 'splainin' to do.
mikecc 03-17-2003, 08:15 AM I witnessed a tourney for stripers a few years back. when this guy weighs in a bass with the plastic bags still on the bait he shoved down it’s throat:smash: :smash: :smash:
mar t 03-17-2003, 08:27 AM i thought we were talking about a fishing tournament were did the IRS come in to play and talk of a 1099. you would need a hole lot more people to take in enough money for a 1099. just go fishing and leave the IRS out of it. and as for the cheating and fighting if theres anyone reading this that has cheated or fought over cheating your not welcome to fish with me ever just keep your lines tight and put the fish back when your done taking the picture.
Mike P 03-17-2003, 02:08 PM mar t---when 25 guys get together and throw $10 apiece into a kitty for a season-long fishing tournament, the IRS couldn't give a crap. But when 500 guys do, and the guy organizing it collects $1,250 for his time and trouble, and the winner takes home $3,750 in cash, they just might. Especially after it's been advertised on the internet and guys are paying their entry fees by check ;)
Got Stripers 03-17-2003, 03:47 PM Like we need another way to promote fish kill and irresponsible harvest.
Canalratt1 03-17-2003, 07:16 PM Sounds like the only "bonus" here is you getting 25% of the pot. I fish in quite a few tournies and have never seen that big of a holdback unless its for a charity.
AbuGarcia16 03-17-2003, 08:18 PM mar t i thought we were talking about a fishing tournament were did the IRS come in to play and talk of a 1099. you would need a hole lot more people to take in enough money for a 1099. just go fishing and leave the IRS out of it. and as for the cheating and fighting if theres anyone reading this that has cheated or fought over cheating your not welcome to fish with me ever just keep your lines tight and put the fish back when your done taking the picture.
Seriously, I don't know why you are turning a FISHING tournament into an argument, especially if you are an angler. This tournament is not going to break out into 500 people, maybe not even 25 people! I will compare this to a raffle at a local sports game again, they have around 50 people atleast buying tickets to win a pot of entry fees and the winner gets only 50% of the pot. I don't think the IRS has come in asking for explaining. I still think that you should try this out before questioning it. And now from your reply's i might just add a limit on it.
mar t 03-18-2003, 11:23 AM come on mike you know as well as i do that there is no way in hell that there will be 50 guys fishing this tourney let alone 500. and i'm not argueing the fact the IRS are a bunch of money hungry grubs i totally argee with you and if he ever gets that many people to fish it then the winner had better pay his VIG because it sounds to me like theres more than a few here that would report them if there winnings were high enough for taxes to be taken. but my point is and i mean no disrespect to you or anyone else when i say this but guys come on just fn fish it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on unless your into nude fishing.
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