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UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 05:31 AM
Bought this computer from BrianS. Compaq 1.8 pentium and 384mb memory windows xp fresh install I believe. John R this computer is similar to the one I bought off you that works on the other machine.

Thing locked up the other day and gave me a weird error which I don't remember now. I was in the middle of running the cnc program I use and it quit. Then it started telling me there were problems with the windows page file and corrupt files on the hard drive, or that settings could not be saved because there was a problem with a file and windows needed to reboot or it rebooted on it's own.

I shut the page file thing off and it seems to have helped but what is now happening is that the machine will stop in the middle of a cut, the screen says it's on a line in the middle of the program, the timer still runs on the screen, the hard drive light is on and the machine stays in that one place then on it's own starts right back up where it left off SOMETIMES (sometimes it just stays there forever) and it will finish the program but only after it sits for a short time.

Not enough memory? Hard drive?

Sledgehammer?

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 06:36 AM
The blue screen of death right before it rebooted

The Dad Fisherman
11-13-2010, 07:51 AM
Try a fresh load of the O/S and then re-install the CNC software. if that doesn't work it could be the Hard Drive is on its way out.

Nebe
11-13-2010, 07:57 AM
It's broken
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Raven
11-13-2010, 08:32 AM
blue screens of death and other computer messages sometimes lie
or don't point to your actual problem

it's just the default response by the computer when there is a problem

so don't accept the face value of it as being gospel

if it was me........

i would google "sufficient memory for cnc computers" and ping the
worlds blogs for a similar person's dilemma and read for a bit all the answers
and many times that will reveal the solution

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 09:10 AM
I think it's the drive. I setup another machine on there now same machine with less memory and it runs fine.

JohnnyD
11-13-2010, 09:59 AM
Salty, my guess is inline with TDF, hard drive is crapping out. In my experience, best case life expectancy of a moderately used HD is 4-5 years. Based on the specs of you computer, I'd bet you're right about there if not past that point.

I'd get the smallest new HD I could find. Should be around $30. Hell, you're probably using so little storage space that you could buy a $15 USB thumb drive and run windows and your CNC control software off of that.

iamskippy
11-13-2010, 10:08 AM
It's broken
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NICE - Keyboard and mouse driver ?

Just kidding - that particular issues is usually a corrupt os files, this occurs a lot when the page file is not large enough to handle the program that is being ran and the system locks and try's to dump un necessary programs being ran, you can increase your page file to 4096 and turn off system restore to try and gain some efficiency. The other thing that may cause the file to become corrupted other then a bad HD is a bad stick of memory however, you would have received a error.

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 10:11 AM
K I'm going to change the drive and memory off another machine and make at least one work. I think Brian said this was a fresh os install and the cnc program is pretty small-don't take very much to run the thing.

Raven
11-13-2010, 10:17 AM
in line with JD's approach you could go grab an external hard drive

super huge one's are goin cheap on black friday deals "ahead of time"
@ new egg ,,,,so a smaller one cost would far less

and then don't use the internal hard drive for that anymore
completely by passing it...

just plug it in via a usb port and copy the software from drive C to drive D
or what ever it's named and your golden.

iamskippy
11-13-2010, 10:45 AM
How big is the HD in there?
how much is available?
How many processes running?
Did you run a scan disk?
Do you have up to date video and chipset drivers?
Before you guy buy one or even a external, there needs to be some more do diligence.
Salt i tried to PM you but . Failed

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 11:23 AM
email no pms I can't keep up with it. It's a midol thing.

It's a TAINT computer

Taint too old

Taint too small

:)

I dunno the drive stuff right now I got it disconnected and on another machine right now. I'm going to rob the memory out of it and stuff it in the machine that's working right now.

iamskippy
11-13-2010, 11:30 AM
email no pms I can't keep up with it. It's a midol thing.

It's a TAINT computer

Taint too old

Taint too small

:)

I dunno the drive stuff right now I got it disconnected and on another machine right now. I'm going to rob the memory out of it and stuff it in the machine that's working right now.

Be careful with doing that, some require memory to match.

JohnR
11-13-2010, 12:39 PM
:rotf2:

OK - I am going to put this in an automotive story so you can see what happened ;)

JohnR
11-13-2010, 12:45 PM
Bought this car from Joe's Cherry Autos. 2002 Chevy Malibu with 94,000 miles, recent tune up I believe. John R this car is similar to the one I bought off you that the wife drives.

Thing stalled out the other day and made a weird noise which I don't remember now. I was in the middle of running to the office and it quit. Then the gauges started lighting, telling me there were problems with the engine or emissions or something.

I pulled the computer chip out and took off the exhaust and it seems to have helped but what is now happening is that the car will stall out whenever I come to a stop, the neighbors look at me funny, and the local cop has pulled me over twice and given me warnings.

Engine? Wiper Blades?



Scott - much like mentioned above - sounds like the hard drive is failing or the OS is miconfigured / Virus / Malware. Turning off the page file is the equivalent of ripping out a cars computer chip, it might run but it will likely run like #@#^ and stall out all of the time.

You need to recreate the page file. And do a full scandisk on the computer ; My Computer, Right click on drive, properties, tools, scan disk. You can also google active disk monitor and have that do a scan disk - then tell us what you see.

JohnnyD
11-13-2010, 01:08 PM
JohnR,

One of the best computer analogies I've seen in a looong time. Kudos!

striperman36
11-13-2010, 01:14 PM
You forgot, put more air in the tires and took off the air filter

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 01:14 PM
Loved it bossman :hee: Going to work on this tomorrow.

Anyone got any pc133 memory in 256mb sticks? 133 mhz?

The Dad Fisherman
11-13-2010, 01:59 PM
JohnR,

One of the best computer analogies I've seen in a looong time. Kudos!

Unfortunately Most of the Time the people "Driveing the Car" are doing so like "Japanese Tourists"........at least the ones I usually have to deal w/ :hihi:

UserRemoved1
11-13-2010, 02:22 PM
I just broke the key off in the ignition and there's a train coming

iamskippy
11-13-2010, 02:39 PM
I just broke the key off in the ignition and there's a train coming

Roll up the windows and put your seat belt on, its gunna get bumpy,. :rotf2:

striperman36
11-13-2010, 03:05 PM
Unfortunately Most of the Time the people "Driveing the Car" are doing so like "Japanese Tourists"........at least the ones I usually have to deal w/ :hihi:

24 everyday reverse commute is now certified INSANE

JohnnyD
11-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Unfortunately Most of the Time the people "Driveing the Car" are doing so like "Japanese Tourists"........at least the ones I usually have to deal w/ :hihi:

You mean something like this??

YouTube - Family Guy Asian Driver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtMy_ybU50g)

JohnR
11-13-2010, 03:51 PM
JohnR,

One of the best computer analogies I've seen in a looong time. Kudos!

Thanks!

You forgot, put more air in the tires and took off the air filter

Don't forget to remove the Summer air from the tires and replace with Winter Air!!! very important!

Loved it bossman :hee: Going to work on this tomorrow.

Anyone got any pc133 memory in 256mb sticks? 133 mhz? I don't have anything that old that I feel confident the static buildup in years of dust hasn't zapped unreliable.

Unfortunately Most of the Time the people "Driveing the Car" are doing so like "Japanese Tourists"........at least the ones I usually have to deal w/ :hihi:

And pays our mortgages.

Raven
11-13-2010, 04:06 PM
[QUOTE=JohnnyD;810783]You mean something like this??

that's a good one JD

i'll never forget the Asian Lady who got a flat tire in Sandiego Ca.
on a 6 lane highway where everyones wizzin on by doing 80 mph

she's got the car jacked up right in the friggan middle of the six lanes changing the tire.

no flashers! and she was absolutely clueless as to how dangerous
a situation she was in.... waving at people to slow down :grins:

striperman36
11-13-2010, 04:09 PM
BossMan is on a roooolllll!!!

I have been having a problem with the summer air. It's lighter than the winter air and I get better gas mileage. But as it start to get cold, my tires go flat and I need fill them with the heavier winter air. So I can't find a way to keep it light after it's starts to freeze What should I should I do?

Raven
11-13-2010, 06:08 PM
....you use the Jiffy pop method

wrap your tires in tin foil then make it lurch

.......backwards and forwards.

this changes the AIR to Obama Hot air

and it'll never be stale after that

striperman36
11-13-2010, 06:38 PM
....you use the Jiffy pop method

wrap your tires in tin foil then make it lurch

.......backwards and forwards.

this changes the AIR to Obama Hot air

and it'll never be stale after that

I tried that, I had hope, and now I'm out 20 bucks for foil and 100 bucks for driving a hazardous vehicle on a public causeway

Raven
11-14-2010, 06:57 AM
well then put a tiger in your tank :think:

go to "tiger direct" and grab a one terabyte hard drive for your
diesel truck computer
External Hard Drive, External Hard Disk Drive, Computer External Hard Drive, Portable External Hard Drive at TigerDirect.com (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=136&srkey=external%20hard%20drives)

for less than a $hundred$ bucks
you can just install artificial intelligence
in your vehicle. :uhuh:

of course you need to mount cameras
but the upside to that is
no one can steal your rods. :)

UserRemoved1
11-14-2010, 04:34 PM
second computer getting swapped tomorrow I guess. I got the bsod on this one this afternoon and it went to sleep...came up with a mac address window and dhcp then tried to start windows, said drive was not bootable. I shut it down and restarted ok.

JohnnyD
11-14-2010, 04:52 PM
I don't know much about CNC controllers, but is it possible to run multiple machines from the same computer?

UserRemoved1
11-14-2010, 05:26 PM
no it's a different setup file for each one.

JohnnyD
11-14-2010, 08:48 PM
no it's a different setup file for each one.

I figured that. CNC machines have always interested me. More of an academic question as to if you could run a separate instance of each program from a single computer... but with the processing demands being so little, makes sense to just have a separate PC to each machine.

UserRemoved1
11-15-2010, 05:09 AM
Well technically it is possible Johnny. With the addition of a second parallel port you can remap drives to run simultaneously on that port. You would have to have two programs running to make different parts, but if the parts were the same you could slave the axises together in the software. You would have to make sure that each machine was touched off to zero and trammed accurately to make the exact same parts.

UserRemoved1
11-15-2010, 07:25 AM
skippy it works pisser. I saltyized it this morning. Duct tape is your friend :bsod:

iamskippy
11-15-2010, 08:52 AM
nice nice, any issue call me but that machine is a beast for what u need ;)
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iamskippy
11-15-2010, 11:25 PM
I couldnt resist

YouTube - Penguin Joke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OpuuAa7gdE)

UserRemoved1
11-21-2010, 05:35 PM
Skippy i got homemade beans :hee:

You know what that means

iamskippy
11-22-2010, 12:20 AM
So i take it the little lady was pleased!

UserRemoved1
11-22-2010, 04:50 AM
The damn pictures were there the whole time! What a dope. They were in a different month. All that freaking out for nothing. I believe son#1 changed the folder somehow on transferring pictures. Once I finally got down to exact pictures and dates from her I found them in 2 seconds. *.jpg search of drive c and she's still arguing the pictures aren't on the drive. There was thousands of them. Open in folder and GEE! Every file that started with P and ended in jpg.

:wall:

UserRemoved1
11-22-2010, 07:23 AM
No don't touch thaaaaaaat

BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ the electrical grid shorts out through my keyboard return Blinding flashes of light pretty purpleish color mmmmm ozone and fried gizzards

wildly falling backwards blind from the shock and flash

that about cover it?



EPIC :hee:

Nebe
11-22-2010, 08:50 AM
The damn pictures were there the whole time! What a dope. They were in a different month. All that freaking out for nothing. I believe son#1 changed the folder somehow on transferring pictures. Once I finally got down to exact pictures and dates from her I found them in 2 seconds. *.jpg search of drive c and she's still arguing the pictures aren't on the drive. There was thousands of them. Open in folder and GEE! Every file that started with P and ended in jpg.

:wall:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:_kaG4LKwPnn1bM::newfunnypictures.net/r-computers-and-internet-11-must-save-porn!-331.htm&t=1&usg=AFrqEzcvdllNnyFABXatn6aB6yIeimH5Eg
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iamskippy
11-22-2010, 03:45 PM
No don't touch thaaaaaaat

BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ the electrical grid shorts out through my keyboard return Blinding flashes of light pretty purpleish color mmmmm ozone and fried gizzards

wildly falling backwards blind from the shock and flash

that about cover it?



EPIC :hee:

YUP that is just about how it went down lol, The first pc is done, i will finish the second one tonight, i will deliver them in the am for you.

UserRemoved1
11-22-2010, 03:54 PM
WOW I'd have dropped at least one by now :hee:

I'll be in all day John thanks much!