Whats your favorite under rated not talked about.. Nothing special lure??

For me it's the cocohoe minnow in all sizes.

How about you?

not really a secret anymore but a loaded cordell pencil

Ditching a diamond jig. Even though it didn't produce for me this year I have caught many fish on them in the past. I also didn't use them much this year. It seemed like I only threw them when there wasn't much happening.

White bucktail.

Followed by pearl cocahoe.

Needlefish Hoochie. Hands down the best teaser I've ever used. They come, unrigged, in many, many color combo's and are pretty cheap.
Here is a pic of one.teaser (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/attachments/stripertalk/30185d1227380726-teasers-teaser3.jpg)

Ava 17

2nd the white bucktail.

dare devil spoon ;;:devil2:

black mag darter. Its overpriced but it works. Doesn't stay black long. After two fish its half black half see through. Doesn't seem to matter.

Red gill

8 inch curltail grub --on a bare jig head

Crippled Herring

golden eye super maverick... meant for muskie. I won it in a raffle... Has such an insane action!!! Would love to buy more.

Kastmaster

something about those supereye mavericks. Honestly, I haven't caught much on them...maybe I just don't use them as my go to plugs, but they cast and swim great. Acutally, I think putting larger hooks on helps the action, as they come with 2/0s out of the package and seem to have too much wobble.

for me it's the rigged EEEEEEEEEL~~~

half bait/half lure; and once you get down THE retrieve

THEY are absolute fish finders and TAKERS!!!

i also like the recycleable factor of my used live eels.
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Kastmaster

Agreed. Under-rated and much more versatile than many people realize.

I ,2 agree with Kastmaster but u gotta retrieve it properly , I can't always let it drop 2 faST AND GET HUNG UP where I fish
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Bombers or cordell cottons

My FREE sebile lure from OTW! Did I mention FREE! Swim shad.

Gold Rolex.

Kastmaster

yup. never really caught anything too big on em they're great for distance and perfect blue fish killer

Another is my beat to hell atom blue and white polaris. casts like a mother, slow sinking. and you can fish it 3 ways: on top popping, v wake side to side motion, or let it get deep.

Bill & Jules Teaser and I can have anything following it. :uhuh:

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How is a kastmaster underated? It's the gold standard in metal. Only reason I don't fish them is that I like thr p.j. Bros so much. Kastmasters are like bombers. You gotta have a few. Everybody does.

To me the tattoo large swimmer is underated. Greatplug and easy to get.
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nothing under rated about sebile magic swimmer, rigged eel, red fins, kastmasters... They are known producers that get mentioned all the time... I think the topic was what lure do you use that produces, but never gets mentioned in books, articles, etc... the unsung heros of the surf. If anything, the sebile was so OVER hyped this year I never used the free one I got from on the water... Hype makes me not want to use particular lures...

5" Mambo Minnow

nothing under rated about sebile magic swimmer, rigged eel, red fins, kastmasters... They are known producers that get mentioned all the time... I think the topic was what lure do you use that produces, but never gets mentioned in books, articles, etc... the unsung heros of the surf. If anything, the sebile was so OVER hyped this year I never used the free one I got from on the water... Hype makes me not want to use particular lures...

You are correct!

I like salthearts choice. The ol grub and jig combo is a quiet killer
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after the above reads~~~

i MUST purpose myself to jig&pig, jig&grub, & bucktailjiggit

much more for the 2011 campaign,,,,,,,,,,,,,right situation, i'm prolly missing sum bigguns by not making it an integral part of the offering rotation. John Skinner from around MTK swears by them!! i would suppose that they're Canal Killers as well?

think i'll go old school and use THICK sliced HICKORY bacon as a streamer. excellent thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks for the reminders!!!
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Poppers

...the reverse atom, I wish someone would duplicate that plug !!

Plugs that aren't on everyone's radar but that I have faith in and carry are P-Line 4oz Diamond jigs and Silver/Black back Yo-Zuri Hydro Pencils.

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4 oz chrome ranger. :fishin:

I don't even think I saw one in use this year at the canal. We used to crush the fish in the canal on them. The 4oz model casts like a bullet, stays on top, and is virtually indestructable. You can also get the all white and put a mackerel paint job on it. Pretty sure they cost less than $15 too.

bucktail jig

The F30 and F40 Rebel Minnows. You'd be hard pressed to find a shop that carries them now. Still great fish catchers. Actually almost every plastic plug under $10 is overlooked nowadays. I work in a shop and you should see the looks I get when I recommend a $6.00 dollar redfin. They think I'm trying to sell them junk. Everyone wants the high priced wood. But plastic is making a comeback! Superstrike, Northbar, etc.

Those of you who think the bucktail is under rated have never been to Montauk.

DZ

I had a lot of success on the 1oz Gibbs Casting Swimmer this year. Some nitghts it was the only plug that worked, and it even outfished live eels. The 1 oz. version also casts great for a small plug and runs about $13.

Rapala skitter pop in size 9, best spring topwater plug I've ever used. Leopard frog pattern is the number one producer.

Krocodile spoon, love the action and cheap, cast great.

Phobee goldfish, excellent on spring schoolies and white perch.
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Gold Rolex.

Great lure for Gooseberry :grins:

How is a kastmaster underated? It's the gold standard in metal. Only reason I don't fish them is that I like thr p.j. Bros so much. Kastmasters are like bombers. You gotta have a few. Everybody does.

To me the tattoo large swimmer is underated. Greatplug and easy to get.
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Because 95% of the people who use them only fish them during the day, on a cast and crank retireve. They're as effective as a Crippled Herring when jigged in the Canal, and they're more durable, with better hooks. Day or night ;)

Hopkins shortee is a pretty darn good tin. I have another tin that i love its called an Abu Coster, its old, i got it out of grandpas tackle box a long time ago and it flat out catches fish.

4 oz chrome ranger. :fishin:

I don't even think I saw one in use this year at the canal. We used to crush the fish in the canal on them. The 4oz model casts like a bullet, stays on top, and is virtually indestructable. You can also get the all white and put a mackerel paint job on it. Pretty sure they cost less than $15 too.

I had one in my bag in the spring. The mackeral paint job is pretty sad, but the profile is pretty close. Had a few hours of fun with it and a few decent fish. Best part is when you launch a long cast you can pick up another 15-20ft with the "Roberts Skip" when it hits the surface.:grins:

Hopkins No-eql is way underrated during the last 20 years or so.

I am a bit of a "closet" kastmaster junkie. Nice to know I am not as alone as I previously thought!

I am a bit of a "closet" kastmaster junkie. Nice to know I am not as alone as I previously thought!

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they do work well

2 oz. Atom Shag N Shad

Deadly with sand eels around...no need to really have that much technique, being slim and light, the chaos of the waves makes it look erratic on its own. On a nice day let it make some pounds into the sand and kaboom

The Atom metal lip....They would cast terrible.Allways broke in the middle.If you left it in your truck on a hot summer day it would become mishaped,and they caught.It used to be the only top water swimmer I would cast.I loved the red/yellow and mackeral.Definitley an underated plug these days.

I havn't fished one in years.I think I will try one again next season....Beef up the hardware first.

Lots of chum in the water.
Once plenty of dogfish show up, some kind of under water explosive !

:think:

Gold Rolex.

I wear my 2-tone Submariner on the outside of my Aquaskinz. haha

How're you doin?

Still loving that reel after many submersions and fish. Thanks again!

aram

Those of you who think the bucktail is under rated have never been to Montauk.
DZ
I agree. Bucktail is far from under rated. I don't know anyone who would hit the beach without at least a few bucktails.

The F30 and F40 Rebel Minnows.
DZ

the 7" Chrome/black is a staple for me....

Don't know how underrated it is but George, NS, has sold me on the Flaptail. I am addicted to this plug. Had an older gentleman on the canal this year ask me I was fishing a flaptail . He was thrilled to see someone using a plug he used to use a lot back in the olden days. No it wasn't Capesams:)

Al Gags sinking needle.

White Uppermn style bucktail.... not only will it catch bass or blues day or night surf ,boat or jetty.. it works for just about any fish that swims and eats meat....

Not sure how underrated it is, but I'm a fan of the loaded Rebel Jumpin' Minnow, preferably bone colored.

A37s and bassassassins

4 ounce barely dressed diamond jig

Pork rind

2 oz. Atom Shag N Shad

Deadly with sand eels around...no need to really have that much technique, being slim and light, the chaos of the waves makes it look erratic on its own. On a nice day let it make some pounds into the sand and kaboom

I am also a big fan of the shag n shad. They don't make them any more, I am loaded up on 2 oz. but need some of the smaller sizes...

Don't know how underrated it is but George, NS, has sold me on the Flaptail. He was thrilled to see someone using a plug he used to use a lot back in the olden days.

What a crock...Numby was a bait fisherman way back and probably still is when nobody is looking...:devil:

What a crock...Numby was a bait fisherman way back and probably still is when nobody is looking...:devil:

legend has it that he even has an eel shrine hidden in his man cave...:grins:

What a crock...Numby was a bait fisherman way back and probably still is when nobody is looking...:devil:

True. I live down the steet from NS; I suspect he stops in to my driveway on the way down to his boat and grabs a few eels. I'm always counting up short...

dare devil spoon ;;:devil2:

You forgot the "Jitterbug" :D

You forgot the "Jitterbug" :D

Clammah knows how to jitterbug... some recently unearthed footage of Clammah from back in the "day"...

YouTube - zoot jitter bug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUXEpVTo1A&feature=related)

First post. Hopkins. just sayin'

. . . . chrome/blue back

True. I live down the steet from NS; I suspect he stops in to my driveway on the way down to his boat and grabs a few eels. I'm always counting up short...

Try using your fingers next time you count. Keeping track of large numbers (like 3 or 4) can get hard for people your age.

I 2nd the Krocodile....I find it outfishes other metal by a good margin.

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I agree they swim great. There my go to!

Tattoo seapup as well. Underrated for it versatility. consistantly catches a wide variety of fish, in many different conditions depending on how you fish it.

http://www.finksbaitandtackle.com/catalog/10snag.jpg

http://www.finksbaitandtackle.com/catalog/10snag.jpg

True story. My buddy and I were watching bait busting all over the place and every couple of minutes, fish would crash them. We couldn't tell what the bait was, so my buddy puts on the weighted treble and throws it into the middle of the school of bait. He didn't snag any bait fish, but hooked a bass perfectly in the corner of the mouth as if it was a lure.

I have had great luck the past few seasons with the Tony Accetta No. 14 spoon in chrome with yellow feather. Everything from schoolies to a 25 lb'er. Also blues, shad, and even 4 fluke in the flats of the Narrow River this year, just bumping it along the bottom. Great versatile lure! Simple yet very effective.

The F30 and F40 Rebel Minnows. You'd be hard pressed to find a shop that carries them now. Still great fish catchers. Actually almost every plastic plug under $10 is overlooked nowadays. I work in a shop and you should see the looks I get when I recommend a $6.00 dollar redfin. They think I'm trying to sell them junk. Everyone wants the high priced wood. But plastic is making a comeback! Superstrike, Northbar, etc.

Those of you who think the bucktail is under rated have never been to Montauk.

DZ
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I am surprised no one ever talks about the old storm shallow macs those are great cheap plastic plugs that catch a ton of fish. They cast well for there size too.
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True. I live down the steet from NS; I suspect he stops in to my driveway on the way down to his boat and grabs a few eels. I'm always counting up short...

that's what I do to BB :devil:

8 inch curltail grub --on a bare jig head

Well plan on stopping by my booth at the MSBA show, I'm back in business and will have a good supply of my 8" grubs. I know you and your canal friends like the 7" split tail in the canal, along with the 13" MegaJerks. You won't find good plastic at the prices I'll have at the show.

1/2 oz. kalin ulimate jig head with a 4" split tail in olive glitter, every spring when the bass are slurping, nothing puts them in the boat faster. I'd second Saltheart on the 8" grub, on a 1-1/2oz jig head you can work a lot of the water column, good changeup for me when I get weary of jigging and want to switch to a conventional to give my right arm a rest.

4 oz chrome ranger. :fishin:

I don't even think I saw one in use this year at the canal. We used to crush the fish in the canal on them. The 4oz model casts like a bullet, stays on top, and is virtually indestructable. You can also get the all white and put a mackerel paint job on it. Pretty sure they cost less than $15 too.

I'll second the Chrome one,cheap very afective and even the seagulls like them:nailem:

By looking at all these posts what may be under rated for one, may be the go to for anouther. What is the definition of under rated? In the context of this thread. Dont cut and paste Websters dictionary.

By looking at all these posts what may be under rated for one, may be the go to for anouther. What is the definition of under rated? In the context of this thread. Dont cut and paste Websters dictionary.

One that was catching fish for you 20-30 years ago, that you have a stash of, but that you always pass over in favor of the latest and the greatest. ;)

Stuff like Kastmasters, original Atom Jrs, Redfins, Hopkins, Rebels, and so on.

One that was catching fish for you 20-30 years ago, that you have a stash of, but that you always pass over in favor of the latest and the greatest. ;)

Stuff like Kastmasters, original Atom Jrs, Redfins, Hopkins, Rebels, and so on.

that mathematically excludes some of us:rotf2:

Hopkins definitely

i guess kastmaster then

Clammah knows how to jitterbug... some recently unearthed footage of Clammah from back in the "day"...

YouTube - zoot jitter bug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUXEpVTo1A&feature=related)

Ya, he and Jackie Gleason could cut a mean rug. :hidin:

Stillwater blue/black minnow.

17a bomber

Does that mean I should go back to drifting seaworms?

Does that mean I should go back to drifting seaworms?

or a crawler and a red and white bomber

31/2 oz tandum hook eel skin jig for the Ditch

31/2oz tandum hook eel skin jig.

a teaser

another is a casting egg

I second the Tony Aceta spoons SweetD! I was amazed I hadn't seen anyone mention them before I got to your post.

Pet Spoon Lures (http://www.striper.net/tackle_lures_spoons_pet-spoons.htm)

Sluggos

Rebel windcheater minnow.