Thumper
11-27-2010, 07:32 PM
Just finished reading this book and if you don't have it you should pick it up. Book is packed with info and is a great read. Thanks Zeno and everyone else involved for getting together and reprinting the book.
View Full Version : Secrets To Surf Fishing At Night Thumper 11-27-2010, 07:32 PM Just finished reading this book and if you don't have it you should pick it up. Book is packed with info and is a great read. Thanks Zeno and everyone else involved for getting together and reprinting the book. ivanputski 11-27-2010, 08:39 PM Cant wait to get it... It's going to make winter that much longer! Thumper 11-27-2010, 09:10 PM yes its going to be a longgg winter. Pete F. 11-27-2010, 10:30 PM My Birthday present came today, sometimes I wish I was a slow reader. Another great book from SJ fishbones 11-28-2010, 11:40 AM I got my copy last wed. and have been reading a chapter here and there. Lots of great info and pics. It's one of those books that you can pick up anytime and read a chapter for a refresher. Liv2Fish 11-28-2010, 07:08 PM I just added some of Diagnault's collection to the Christmas list. Do you know where this book is available? Zeno 11-28-2010, 07:54 PM Locally? rivers end in ct, swe and sri in ri, red top should have them tomorow and surfland a day or two after that...some of these stores have big net storefronts too... Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device Pete F. 11-29-2010, 08:46 PM The position of the head hook on the rigged eel in Secrets looks different than any I have seen or made. The hook has less of the shank in the body. At first I thought it may be an optical illusion. Any thoughts? Thumper 11-30-2010, 11:33 AM The position of the head hook on the rigged eel in Secrets looks different than any I have seen or made. The hook has less of the shank in the body. At first I thought it may be an optical illusion. Any thoughts? I saw that too. Maybe that was the key as to why he was so successful/protective of his riggies. The only thing I could think of was maybe the eel swims better not having the entire shank of the hook down the throat while the hook still acts like a keel. But would that even make a difference? Maybe something to do with the hook set? Hopefully Z will chime in on this. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device Zeno 12-02-2010, 04:55 AM I honestly never even thought about it...good observation, I rigged my eels with a hook much deeper that in picture...I wish Al was still around so we can ask him...I miss that man JohnR 12-02-2010, 08:42 AM It is a pretty skinny eel, and a fairly large hook, with the hook seemingly exiting the eel earlier than if the shank ran parallel with the bottom of the eel. Hey Z - Got it - thanks! DZ 12-02-2010, 08:57 AM When i first picked up an original edition of this book many years ago I also noticed that particular photo. It had me puzzeld as any eel I rigged with the head hook in that configuration always tended to spin. I think it just happend that way when he rigged it for the photo shoot. More likely it was just a mistake... but who knows - maybe Al wanted his readers to be more attentive? As all eel riggers know - some eels no matter how good they look after rigging just will not swim correctly and others that don't look right to you - look very good to the bass. This book was the one reference that always reinforced what I had learned about striped bass fishing up until the time I read it. It is still one of my favorites and I highly recommend it. Thanks to Z for bringing it back. DZ BassDawg 12-05-2010, 08:13 AM i've had an original copy for two years, NOW~~~ will open it, TODAY~~ after the tree, chores, and the NFL. :grins: :grins: :grins: Rob Rockcrawler 12-05-2010, 10:04 AM Just cracked it last night. Good read so far. ivanputski 12-06-2010, 09:43 PM Anyone notice the incredible disappearing eel? Look closely Needmore Salts 12-07-2010, 07:28 PM Anyone notice the incredible disappearing eel? Look closely hmmm??? Thumper 12-07-2010, 09:02 PM Not in any of the pics? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device Pete F. 12-07-2010, 10:49 PM Ok, now I'll have to look for the disappearing eel. Clogston29 12-08-2010, 07:11 AM Anyone notice the incredible disappearing eel? Look closely yup, noticed it a few times in Z's books :) Clogston29 12-08-2010, 07:16 AM The position of the head hook on the rigged eel in Secrets looks different than any I have seen or made. The hook has less of the shank in the body. At first I thought it may be an optical illusion. Any thoughts? i rig mine similar to the photo (probably because the book is where i learned to rig them), maybe not quite as much of the shank exposed, but alot of it. i think al and frank d discussed it a few years back on the site that frank used to have a forum on (can't remember the name now) and the idea was for the hook to act as a keel, and more exposed shank is more keel. BassDawg 12-08-2010, 07:41 AM Anyone notice the incredible disappearing eel? Look closely is that in Zeno's reprint, or does the eeeeel disappear in the original also?? decksweeper 12-08-2010, 07:53 AM is that in Zeno's reprint, or does the eeeeel disappear in the original also?? Front over? When I took that Picture I remember seeing an Eel hanging out of Jimmy's fish! BassDawg 12-08-2010, 09:39 AM that's ironic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ya beat me to it!! after i posted that i saw the eel/squid(?) around the cow's dorsal as it enters the surf, there. looks like a squid to me, though,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,see the fins on the side of the striper pressed against the back at the end of a tapered body? also the eyes look huge and protruded like a squid's would? i'm talking about the Original printing, however, or maybe i'm seeing things?? which one is it Pete?? jim sylvester 12-08-2010, 11:25 AM picture was taken with eel ibn mouth, as i was walking out of the water with the fish...decksweeper took the photo. Picture that has no eel hanging is the same picture, that Z photod eliminating the eel as he used ithe photo for his book about fishing with plugs BassDawg 12-08-2010, 11:33 AM i rig mine similar to the photo (probably because the book is where i learned to rig them), maybe not quite as much of the shank exposed, but alot of it. i think al and frank d discussed it a few years back on the site that frank used to have a forum on (can't remember the name now) and the idea was for the hook to act as a keel, and more exposed shank is more keel. yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but that MUCH exposed shank, not being tight to the eel's body does not equate to keel in my mind. more like a rudder that is dislodged,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i do like the copper globule to help to secure the head. nothing SUX worse than an riggie that won't stand-up to the rigors of it's first "snagging" and release. i think it is Daignault that uses a copper spike soldered to the shank and he skewers the head behind the eyes to prevent slippage, no? i do stitch the eye of the vent hook with my worn out PPro, don't use chain(though i might after reading this), and do push the head hook eye into the throat like Skinner does. been using his method with some Veracka, Babikian, and Dawgistic modifications. :uhuh: :uhuh: :uhuh: GREAT read, so far!! Clogston29 12-09-2010, 06:41 AM don't have the book in front of me, so i don't know if its that much, but this is how I do mine. they swim well and usually stand up to a few fish. the tail hooks are usually what come loose eventually and lead to me having to go to a new eel, not the head. i find the copper and flux to be a PIA, and used steel epoxy to create the same effect with much less work. i posted a picture on here a while back. I rig the head such that the epoxy "ball" is right against the throat of the eel and tie it off on both sides. I also use cable ties to reinforce and protect the dacron, but all the actual tieing is done with dacron. BassDawg 12-09-2010, 08:19 AM don't have the book in front of me, so i don't know if its that much, but this is how I do mine. they swim well and usually stand up to a few fish. the tail hooks are usually what come loose eventually and lead to me having to go to a new eel, not the head. i find the copper and flux to be a PIA, and used steel epoxy to create the same effect with much less work. i posted a picture on here a while back. I rig the head such that the epoxy "ball" is right against the throat of the eel and tie it off on both sides. I also use cable ties to reinforce and protect the dacron, but all the actual tieing is done with dacron. those look SWEEEET! i don't use as many cable ties as that, but those look very "offerable"!! i am becoming MORE of a believer of these lures with each season. :grins: :grins: :grins: Surf Caster 12-09-2010, 10:45 PM Just cracked my copy tonight. looking fwd to reading it vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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