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ProfessorM 12-13-2010, 08:34 PM Luv their early stuff, once real popular I lost interest . Was lucky enough to live a few towns over as a youngin so before they hit the big time they played a couple Friday nite dances, remember those?, when I was in high school, little did we know.
This whole album is so good, Get your wings
YouTube - Aerosmith - Woman of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eGKpId32TM&feature=related)
ProfessorM 12-13-2010, 08:35 PM YouTube - Aerosmith - Lord of the Thighs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dT_8BzNkcY&feature=related)
ProfessorM 12-13-2010, 08:37 PM YouTube - Aerosmith - Seasons of wither (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5GxU4hS9N0&feature=related)
ProfessorM 12-13-2010, 08:39 PM YouTube - Aerosmith - Same Old Song and Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKEGRBuLTXM&feature=related)
Raider Ronnie 12-13-2010, 09:09 PM Aerosmith has something very much in common with the Beatles.
A drummer who sucks but was in the right place in the right time !
Slingah 12-13-2010, 09:24 PM Aerosmith has something very much in common with the Beatles.
A drummer who sucks but was in the right place in the right time !
every time Aerosmith is mentioned you say the drummer sucks...:rotf2: I'll admit he's no virtuoso...but he hardly sucks. Never mind the fact it is his band and he made up the name even.... I'd say he fits perfectly with the level of playing of the rest of the guys....middle of the road.
I like some of their old stuff too Professor. That would have been cool to see them back then....:uhuh:
The Dad Fisherman 12-14-2010, 05:57 AM Always was a big Aerosmith fan...saw them a couple of times....got to see them play New Years eve at the Orpheum, great show.
Also saw the off-shoot bands, Joe Perry Project (actually was my 1st concert) and the Whitford St.Holmes band
RIJIMMY 12-14-2010, 09:26 AM never liked em.
A few good tunes, but otherwise never thought they were as good as other bands playing similar music. I think Joe P is an lousy guitarist.
Slingah 12-14-2010, 09:41 AM look who at Humarock last week...I won't be telling him his band is middle of the road..:rotf2:
RIROCKHOUND 12-14-2010, 09:47 AM look who at Humarock last week...I won't be telling him his band is middle of the road..:rotf2:
Who's band is that? Grandma has a band?
I love old Aerosmith. Live Bootleg era, even a few tracks from Get a Grip, but he is seriously starting to look like an old lesbian.
Selling out or not, they have remained musically relevant through 30 years... impressive, even if the music sucked the last few albums.
Sea Dangles 12-14-2010, 09:58 AM look who at Humarock last week...I won't be telling him his band is middle of the road..:rotf2:
incognito
fishbones 12-14-2010, 10:45 AM I don't listen to them much anymore, but I've seen them a bunch of times over the years. Aerosmith, Get Your Wings and Toys in the Attic are pretty good albums IMO. I like the older, less polished stuff from before they became senior citizens.
My aunt used to own an antique store on the south shore and Tyler used to go in when he was in town and buy vintage clothing from her. They still keep in touch to this day, and she says he's a really down to earth guy.
Slingah, I thought that was a picture of Carly Simon.:rotf2:
Slingah 12-14-2010, 11:06 AM My aunt used to own an antique store on the south shore and Tyler used to go in when he was in town and buy vintage clothing from her. They still keep in touch to this day, and she says he's a really down to earth guy.
Slingah, I thought that was a picture of Carly Simon.:rotf2:
I have spoke to him on several different occasions and he is always very gracious, humble and down to earth. He lives here in town. Joe Perry lives a couple miles away from me and hardly ever is seen. You cant miss them in their expensive cars...Kramer and Whitford especially.
Slingah 12-14-2010, 11:26 AM this is my favorite
70's rock at it's best...
YouTube - Aerosmith - Combination (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ELWiyMABc&feature=related)
Slingah 12-14-2010, 11:31 AM YouTube - Aerosmith - Last Child (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njSP9BMc84U&feature=related)
Eh, they are ok, Toys in the Attic was about it for me
ProfessorM 12-15-2010, 09:45 AM I am not trying to make them out to be virtuoso's or anything but their first 2 albums were really good, after that my interest waned.
The Dad Fisherman 12-15-2010, 10:30 AM I thought everything up through Draw the Line was good. After that when they broke up and got back together they went to a more poppy, over-produced sound IMHO. Get your wings is also my favorite Aerosmith Album. Rocks had some great stuff on it too.
Rockport24 12-15-2010, 12:17 PM I'm a child of the 80's so "Pump" was and is my fav, I also love the "Cryin" era, but you guys might call that too poppy. I, like everyone else, was in love with Alicia Silverstone in those videos!
A good friend of mine from high school was always obsessed with them, so then I got into the older stuff and I've seen them a bunch of times and every time the show kicked butt, and when you see Joe Perry live, it's hard to say he's "middle of the road"
I think the thing with them is they have always managed to remained relevant and you could argue that has kind of over-exposed them and turned a lot of people off.
RIJIMMY 12-15-2010, 04:30 PM I watched a documentary once of their latter years ( late 80's early 90's). they were in the studio with some big time producer, you'd recognize his name. He was basically giving them the " I dont hear a hit single" speech and they were all following his lead. I thought it was sad that one of the leading bands in 70s hard rock was taking this approach. This was the same time Metallica was playing to sold out crowds, playing 12 minute tunes and basically had limited airplay. I really felt Aerosmith sold out, it was pretty sad watching them in the studio.
I think they have some classic songs and those songs will stand the test of time for decades. I have a massive cd collection of 70-80s hard rock and dont own one of their cds. I had lots of friends into them but they never really did it for me. I guess their biggest contribution to my life is producing the hot elf chick in Lord of the Rings......
fishbones 12-15-2010, 04:59 PM I think it really dawned on me that they sold out when I got in the car of one of my black college friends and he had the Pump cassette mixed in with LL Cool J, Prince and De La Soul. This was a guy that wouldn't come into my dorm room if I had AC/DC playing.
Raider Ronnie 12-15-2010, 08:10 PM Never been much of a fan.
I'll stick to listening to Steely Dan and real talent !:uhuh:
O.D. Mike 12-15-2010, 08:43 PM YouTube - Aerosmith - Round And Round (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYcpQe_L4i4)
Slingah 12-15-2010, 09:00 PM I'm a child of the 80's so "Pump" was and is my fav, I also love the "Cryin" era, but you guys might call that too poppy. I, like everyone else, was in love with Alicia Silverstone in those videos!
A good friend of mine from high school was always obsessed with them, so then I got into the older stuff and I've seen them a bunch of times and every time the show kicked butt, and when you see Joe Perry live, it's hard to say he's "middle of the road"
I think the thing with them is they have always managed to remained relevant and you could argue that has kind of over-exposed them and turned a lot of people off.
I've seen them over a half dozen times from late 70's to a couple months ago...wifey loves them so it's "all things Aerosmith" around here ( i do not share in her enthusiasm )but I"ll have to admit they were really good this last time....One thing irked me though was Joe did this guitar solo then was so "exhausted" after that he fell down and the crew had to carry him off stage....it was so cheese and fake.... maybe it might have worked if I was 15 and stoned :rotf2: . We saw the J.P. Project last winter and some of his playing was weak and sometimes a little painful. Not trying to dis him, everybody makes mistakes or has bad moments......enough from me..
I have to post this video as it is....well....hot.
ROCK & ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YouTube - Aerosmith - Crazy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMNgbISmF4I&feature=artistob&playnext=1&list=TLnDD7br-Ffu8)
The Dad Fisherman 12-16-2010, 06:22 AM I really felt Aerosmith sold out, ...
Ain't too many that don't.....I doubt there's more than a handful of R&R HOF Inductees that don't have a car commercial :hihi:
chrisjoe13 12-16-2010, 07:54 AM The real question is:
Do you say Aerosmith or Arrowsmith?
RIJIMMY 12-16-2010, 01:33 PM Ain't too many that don't.....I doubt there's more than a handful of R&R HOF Inductees that don't have a car commercial :hihi:
Im not so sure I agree. AC/DC hasnt changed their style in almost 40yrs. I dont think Zeppelin did. Doors? Hendrix? Ramones? Because their tunes are used in commercials, movies, video games, etc, I dont think it alters their image to me. The songs came first, the commercialism later.
Aerosmith came of age in the time of album rock. People bought LPs, not singles. They then turned into Poison wannabes. I think they would have been just as succesful if they stuck to their roots. Most bands sell out at the beggining to make a name for themselves, Aerosmith sold out when they were legends. Seems weird. They're also in their 60s and look in the 20s so it may just be an ego/image thing. I dont fault bands that change with the times or alter their style. Not a fan of hit chasers.
Use an Aerosmith influenced band as an example - Guns and Roses. Hugely popular but most songs were pretty long, lyrics radio stations wouldnt play. I appreciate that. Just my 2 cents.
The Dad Fisherman 12-16-2010, 02:45 PM I think it was the lure of the money that got them back together....that's why they sold out.
Rock Music didn't become the sellout (read HUGE Dollars) that it is today until the 80's. So the fact that zeppelin, doors, and hendrix didn't sellout is kind of irrelevant.
I think more of bands that are still producing music today.
RIJIMMY 12-16-2010, 02:56 PM IRock Music didn't become the sellout (read HUGE Dollars) that it is today until the 80's. So the fact that zeppelin, doors, and hendrix didn't sellout is kind of irrelevant.
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Im not getting your point, in the 80s rock music decline. New wave and pop took over. The 60s and 70s were the heyday. How many mansions did Zeppelin have? The Beatles? Stones? Sabbath? Alice Cooper? The whole rock star indulgence is from the 70s era.
There is pop - singles based music
Rock - which was more album based.
People bought the Stones albums, They bought ABBAs forty fives.
There were plenty of sell outs in the 60s and 70s.
So lets take some artists from the past 20 yrs - Janes Addiction, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, White Stripes, - did they try to make hits or make great music? I think they tried to make great music and some happened to make hits. All comes down to integrity to me.
The Dad Fisherman 12-17-2010, 06:13 AM Im not getting your point, in the 80s rock music decline. New wave and pop took over. The 60s and 70s were the heyday. How many mansions did Zeppelin have? The Beatles? Stones? Sabbath? Alice Cooper? The whole rock star indulgence is from the 70s era.
There is pop - singles based music
Rock - which was more album based.
People bought the Stones albums, They bought ABBAs forty fives.
There were plenty of sell outs in the 60s and 70s.
So lets take some artists from the past 20 yrs - Janes Addiction, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, White Stripes, - did they try to make hits or make great music? I think they tried to make great music and some happened to make hits. All comes down to integrity to me.
No problem w/ this statement...Agree w/ pretty much all of it. I always think of the 60's as the Rock and Roll Renaissance....the 80's were the Dark Ages :hihi:
I think we're talking about 2 different types of "Selling out "....where you are talking more about Artistically....i'm talking more about Financially.....Trying to ring every last dime out of your music.
A lot of bands today are always trying to attach an event (i.e. Movies, TV Shows, Sporting Events) to their music.
There are still plenty of bands/performers that are staying true to their music...I'm not making a blanket statement that says ALL artists are sellouts....just saying that a lot of them now-a-days are more worried about bottom line when it comes to music.
I always seem drawn to a bands 1st couple of albums....they usuaully have the raw sound that they envisioned....before the big Record Companies step in and take over. then it becomes over-produced (i.e. Aerosmith).
If it wasn't about the mighty dollar....I wouldn't be paying a $100 or more for a ticket
I also pretty much agree with you....comes down to integrity w/ me also.
Plus I think you just like to argue w/ me.....Are you sure you're not related to my wife? :hihi:
RIJIMMY 12-17-2010, 09:26 AM I always seem drawn to a bands 1st couple of albums....they usuaully have the raw sound that they envisioned....before the big Record Companies step in and take over. then it becomes over-produced (i.e. Aerosmith).
me too. see, we usually end up agreeing
ProfessorM 12-17-2010, 09:58 AM I always seem drawn to a bands 1st couple of albums....they usuaully have the raw sound that they envisioned....before the big Record Companies step in and take over. then it becomes over-produced (i.e. Aerosmith).
me too. see, we usually end up agreeing
that is why i said first 2 albums, and a lot of bands only have 2 good albums in them if they are lucky.
RIJIMMY 12-17-2010, 10:00 AM usually after the first 2 albums they all have alcohol and drug problems so then they sober up and once they do that the music goes down hill......
ProfessorM 12-17-2010, 10:34 AM or they are not schooled musicians so they can't adapt to actually writing something after they have exhausted their limited musical repertoire.
Note: there have been and will be lots of great musicians that can't read or write music but put out tons of great stuff but they are the exception. The schooled musician has a fantastic edge on the non schooled, at least in the kinds of music I like. They can draw on any type of music they wish because they know the language and become more well rounded, which shows in their music.
note: IMO.:) which isn't worth a piss hole in the snow most days
mosholu 12-17-2010, 12:05 PM If you think about it most bands first record is like a greatest hits of everything they have done before. All of the songs they have written have been whittled down to their best 10-14 for that first album. After the album is out they are on the road, doing promo, getting burned out etc., and the opportunity to write and arrange just gets less and less. This has become a bigger problem in the cd age where you now have to come up with 60 -70 minutes of music. In the lp day you could have a release with 8 songs at 38 minutes on it and have some material left over for later lps. One reason why I think the quality on the Steely Dan albums were so high was that they did not tour giving them more time to work on the material.
As for Aerosmith, while I liked individual songs they always seemed to be clones of the Stones.
ProfessorM 12-17-2010, 12:36 PM yes good points. if you are trying to make a living in the music biz you need to make money to pay the bills and what ever it takes is what you have to do.
As far as steely dan goes that was one reason they made great music, another was they were very musically talented, educated and hired great accent, studio guys to be on their albums. I am sure most of the people on their albums were thrilled to go and collaborate with such highly skilled people. It pushed, challenged, gave great pleasure, to them to be better musicians.
Their are bands that are in it as a job, $$$, and their are bands, musicians that are in it for arts sake and the monetary gains are not as important. Now I bet many of them started off thinking they were in it for arts sake but eventually they get sucked in, reality hits. This is a job, be it either they had to pay bills or really liked all the $$$, and or they were pushed by the companies they signed up with to get to work. It is a very tough biz to be in plus you have to find people that are interested in what you are doing. Lots of casualties in that biz. I am glad I got the easy side , listening.:uhuh:
mosholu 12-17-2010, 01:16 PM The talent with Steely Dan was there no doubt. They are the only act I can think of where each album was better than the last, at least up to Aja.
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