This story reminds me of the Willie Horton saga, except it's worse in that a cop got killed by a guy parolled after being sentenced to THREE CONSECUTIVE life sentences...

Massachusetts Cop Was Killed by Career Criminal Out on Parole Despite Three Life Sentences - FoxNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/29/mass-cop-killed-career-criminal-parole-despite-life-sentences/?test=latestnews)

I don't have a degree in criminology from an Ivy League school. I guess I'm just not sophisticated enough to see how you let this guy out on the street.

That's liberalism for you, nobody is responsible for their actions, nothing is anybody's fault. I see the criminal got killed in the shootout, maybe the ACLU will file a wrongul death suit against the cops on behalf of his surviving family.

It's time to toss out all the extreme ideology and use some good old fashioned common sense. Except when you talk in common-sense terms, the liberals label you a simpleton...I bet a simpleton would have turned down this guy's parole application.

Really? Liberalism is to blame?

"No one testified against Cinelli."

Where were you?

How about instead of blaming people, ask why he was given life with possibility of parole?

Here's the parole board: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eopsterminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Public+Safety+Agencies&L2=Massachusetts+Parole+Board&sid=Eeops&b=terminalcontent&f=pb_parole_board_members&csid=Eeops

I expect a full report from you after contacting each of them on how they came to their decision.

I doubt you want to read through who all is on the parole board so let me c/p for you to save the effort. Tell me who the liberals are?

Mark A. Conrad was appointed as Chairman of the Massachusetts Parole Board by Governor Deval Patrick in 2008. Prior to this appointment, Mark served as a Massachusetts Parole Board Member, and was a police officer for the Milton Police Department for almost two decades

Thomas Merigan was appointed to the Massachusetts Parole Board in 2004. Before becoming a Board Member, Mr. Merigan was a supervisor at the United States Probation Office where he worked for more than 20 years.

Candace Kochin was appointed to the Parole Board in 2004. Ms. Kochin worked for the Hampshire County Sheriff’s Office as the Director of Treatment and Assistant Deputy Superintendent. Throughout her career she has also worked as a Superior Court Probation Officer with Hampshire Superior Court Probation, a Victim/Witness Advocate with the Northwestern District Attorney, and an Administrative Assistant in the Northampton District Court.

Pamela Lombardini became a Parole Board member in January 2007. She was a United States Probation Officer for over fifteen years and worked as a probation officer in Essex County.

Leticia Muñoz was appointed to the Parole Board in 2008. She is a licensed clinical psychologist with extensive experience in community mental health settings. Prior to joining the Board, Dr. Muñoz was the Clinical Director at Brightside School Street Counseling Institute in Springfield, Massachusetts. She provided services to an urban low-income client population diagnosed with a broad range of psychiatric disorders.

Roger Michel was appointed to the Parole Board in 2009. He has been a lawyer in Massachusetts, specializing in criminal law, for more than two decades. Before joining the Board, Mr. Michel was Senior Staff Attorney at the Massachusetts Appeals Court, where he worked for seventeen years. Mr. Michel also served as an Assistant District Attorney in the Suffolk District and worked in private practice at Hill & Barlow.

Cesar Archilla was appointed to the Parole Board in 2009. Mr. Archilla has practiced as an attorney since 1999, working in both state and private practice. Attorney Archilla served for over six years in the Essex County District Attorney's Office, working as an Assistant District Attorney, a Supervising Assistant District Attorney in the Peabody District Court and as a Jury Session Supervising District Attorney in the Salem District court.


Huh, wow.
All seemed to have made a career prior to this of putting people IN JAIL?
All but one!

Must all be liberals.

It's time to toss out all the extreme ideology and use some good old fashioned common sense. Except when you talk in common-sense terms, the liberals label you a simpleton...



So true, all these pseudo intellectual libertine thinkers think "they" have all the answers.

Cut off the East and left coast and get back to what common sense and
this country is about.

So true, all these pseudo intellectual libertine thinkers think "they" have all the answers.

Cut off the East and left coast and get back to what common sense and
this country is about.

C'mon
Help us out here, point on the liberals in that list!

Why weren't you at the hearing?

Cut off the East and left coast and get back to what common sense and
this country is about.
You cut of the East and West Coasts and I'd bet you cut out over half of the economic production in the country.

Cut off the two coasts and you're left with rednecks, inbreeds and polygamists... I guess that last one isn't terrible.

You cut of the East and West Coasts and I'd bet you cut out over half of the economic production in the country.

Cut off the two coasts and you're left with rednecks, inbreeds and polygamists... I guess that last one isn't terrible.

You forgot the Amish. :err:

Read his rap sheet, both in and out of jail.... There is no way in hell this guy should ever have been able to appear before a parole board, nevermind actually being granted parole.... I hope the parole hearing and decision is made public, and then they all getted canned...

Read his rap sheet, both in and out of jail.... There is no way in hell this guy should ever have been able to appear before a parole board, nevermind actually being granted parole.... I hope the parole hearing and decision is made public, and then they all getted canned...

I'd rather like to know how he managed 3 life sentences WITH parole. :confused:

Cut off the two coasts and you're left with rednecks, inbreeds and polygamists... I guess that last one isn't terrible.


Hey JD, ya forgot the Gun toting Bible thumpin Astro turfs as
Obama and Pelosi call them. :D

C'mon
Help us out here, point on the liberals in that list!

Why weren't you at the hearing?

Sorry, not from Mass.

I'd rather like to know how he managed 3 life sentences WITH parole. :confused:

Liberal Mass judge(s)......:rotf2:

Liberal Mass judge(s)......:rotf2:

In 1976.

The whole lot of you is to blame. :claps:

Or were you busy being a non caucasian boat maintenance person? :hihi:

Lol Ted :rotfl:
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In 1976.

The whole lot of you is to blame. :claps:

Or were you busy being a non caucasian boat maintenance person? :hihi:

Ummmm yeah, your timeline would be correct. But that would be "marine domestic."

I got a few friends who live in Woburn and knew the cop.
Sad situation and I'm guessing the cop being 60 years old never wore a bullet proof vest as lots of older cops don't wear them.
Most likely would have saved his life !
This country/world is #^&#^&#^&#^&ed !
It's like we are living in the wild west with armed store,bank robberies ect.... on what seems like a daily basis.

Hey JD, ya forgot the Gun toting Bible thumpin Astro turfs as
Obama and Pelosi call them. :D
No I didn't...

You cut of the East and West Coasts and I'd bet you cut out over half of the economic production in the country.

Cut off the two coasts and you're left with rednecks, inbreeds and polygamists... I guess that last one isn't terrible.

maybe Obama should give the parole board a call and thank them for giving him a second chance...:uhuh:

at least you Mass taxpayers haven't had to pay for a sex change operation for this victim of the human condition.......yet....

the article says that he "impressed" the parole board....no word yet if they are still "impressed"?

Really? Liberalism is to blame?

"No one testified against Cinelli."

Where were you?

How about instead of blaming people, ask why he was given life with possibility of parole?

Here's the parole board: Parole Board Members (http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eopsterminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Public+Safety+Agencies&L2=Massachusetts+Parole+Board&sid=Eeops&b=terminalcontent&f=pb_parole_board_members&csid=Eeops)

I expect a full report from you after contacting each of them on how they came to their decision.

I doubt you want to read through who all is on the parole board so let me c/p for you to save the effort. Tell me who the liberals are?

Mark A. Conrad was appointed as Chairman of the Massachusetts Parole Board by Governor Deval Patrick in 2008. Prior to this appointment, Mark served as a Massachusetts Parole Board Member, and was a police officer for the Milton Police Department for almost two decades

Thomas Merigan was appointed to the Massachusetts Parole Board in 2004. Before becoming a Board Member, Mr. Merigan was a supervisor at the United States Probation Office where he worked for more than 20 years.

Candace Kochin was appointed to the Parole Board in 2004. Ms. Kochin worked for the Hampshire County Sheriff’s Office as the Director of Treatment and Assistant Deputy Superintendent. Throughout her career she has also worked as a Superior Court Probation Officer with Hampshire Superior Court Probation, a Victim/Witness Advocate with the Northwestern District Attorney, and an Administrative Assistant in the Northampton District Court.

Pamela Lombardini became a Parole Board member in January 2007. She was a United States Probation Officer for over fifteen years and worked as a probation officer in Essex County.

Leticia Muñoz was appointed to the Parole Board in 2008. She is a licensed clinical psychologist with extensive experience in community mental health settings. Prior to joining the Board, Dr. Muñoz was the Clinical Director at Brightside School Street Counseling Institute in Springfield, Massachusetts. She provided services to an urban low-income client population diagnosed with a broad range of psychiatric disorders.

Roger Michel was appointed to the Parole Board in 2009. He has been a lawyer in Massachusetts, specializing in criminal law, for more than two decades. Before joining the Board, Mr. Michel was Senior Staff Attorney at the Massachusetts Appeals Court, where he worked for seventeen years. Mr. Michel also served as an Assistant District Attorney in the Suffolk District and worked in private practice at Hill & Barlow.

Cesar Archilla was appointed to the Parole Board in 2009. Mr. Archilla has practiced as an attorney since 1999, working in both state and private practice. Attorney Archilla served for over six years in the Essex County District Attorney's Office, working as an Assistant District Attorney, a Supervising Assistant District Attorney in the Peabody District Court and as a Jury Session Supervising District Attorney in the Salem District court.


Huh, wow.
All seemed to have made a career prior to this of putting people IN JAIL?
All but one!

Must all be liberals.

Likwid, pointing out people's careers tells me NOTHING about their political beliefs, unless they worked for the ACLU or the NRA.

Likwid, do you really feel that there is no difference between the liberal view toward crime and the conservative view?

Likwid, pointing out people's careers tells me NOTHING about their political beliefs, unless they worked for the ACLU or the NRA.

Likwid, do you really feel that there is no difference between the liberal view toward crime and the conservative view?

Note most of them are COPS.
COPS let him out.
Not liberals or conservatives.
COPS.

Your political polarizing of EVERYTHING is getting tired and pathetic.

Note most of them are COPS.
COPS let him out.
Not liberals or conservatives.
COPS.

Your political polarizing of EVERYTHING is getting tired and pathetic.

you didn't answer his question...

it was summed up nicely this way...

nightfighter Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
I'd rather like to know how he managed 3 life sentences WITH parole.

Liberal Mass judge(s)...... :rotf2:


three life sentences.... unanimously let out on parole by a board of libs appointed by libs...dead cop.....it would be a shame if this one unfortunate accident ruined the wonderful work that this board has done releasing so many other hardened criminals onto our streets .....I wonder if Deval sent him any money to use for his defense ?.....

now that death panels are back in Obamacare....will doctors be required to give "end of life counseling" to prisoners with life and/or death sentences( you know, so if they get sick we can save a bundle of money by not treating their illness and just giving them a little pill to send them on their way)...or is this counseling only reserved for non-criminals?

now that death panels are back in Obamacare....will doctors be required to give "end of life counseling" to prisoners with life and/or death sentences( you know, so if they get sick we can save a bundle of money by not treating their illness and just giving them a little pill to send them on their way)...or is this counseling only reserved for non-criminals?

Jesus, does everyone need a script for adderall before coming in here?

solution:

Obama should call a press conference and state that the dead police officer acted "stupidly" and then invite the parole board, the family of the real victim(the paroled triple life sentence criminal), and Coupe DeVall to the White House for a beer....:uhuh:

Note most of them are COPS.
COPS let him out.
Not liberals or conservatives.
COPS.

Your political polarizing of EVERYTHING is getting tired and pathetic.

Likwid, I read your post again, and it looks to me like one out of the seven was a cop. Does 1 constitute "most" of 7 to you?

I don't care if they were all former cops. I know plenty of cops who are liberals. Occupation is irrelevent. What's pertinent to this situation is the generalization (we can debate whether or not it's accurate) that liberals are more inclined to give these repeat offenders a second chance because they are not responsible for their actions.

One of the pillars of liberalism is that people who make mistakes (as long as they are anointed with "victim" status) should not be held accountable for their actions.

You had unprotected sex? Don't worry, just get an abortion.

You chose not to do any homwework in high school? Don't worry, those that work will provide you with welfare.

Can't find a job in 99 weeks? Don't worry, those that are killing themselves to stay employed will give you more of their money.

You bought a $700,000 house even though you make $40,000 a year? Don't worry, we'll tell the bank to lower the amount of your mortgage and your interest rate so that you can afford it. Meanwhile, those playing by the rules still struggle.

You don't want to work hard? Don't worry, elect liberals, and we'll give you a public sector union job with lifetime job protection and insane benefits.

You shot somebody while committing a crime? Well, as long as you claim that mommy was hard on you, it's not your fault, so we'll give you another chance.

What's tired and pathetic is your attempt at spin.

Likwid, I read your post again, and it looks to me like one out of the seven was a cop. Does 1 constitute "most" of 7 to you?

I don't care if they were all former cops. I know plenty of cops who are liberals. Occupation is irrelevent. What's pertinent to this situation is the generalization (we can debate whether or not it's accurate) that liberals are more inclined to give these repeat offenders a second chance because they are not responsible for their actions.

Their previous occupation has EVERYTHING to do with their current job no matter HOW much you want to scream and cry it doesn't and want to spin it pissing and moaning that its all the "liberal's" fault.

They are a group of people who should have known better, but let him out anyhow. Why? No clue, can't see the minutes of the parole hearing and what WAS published is nothing but hearsay and speculation.

One of the pillars of liberalism is that people who make mistakes (as long as they are anointed with "victim" status) should not be held accountable for their actions.

You had unprotected sex? Don't worry, just get an abortion.

You chose not to do any homwework in high school? Don't worry, those that work will provide you with welfare.

Can't find a job in 99 weeks? Don't worry, those that are killing themselves to stay employed will give you more of their money.

You bought a $700,000 house even though you make $40,000 a year? Don't worry, we'll tell the bank to lower the amount of your mortgage and your interest rate so that you can afford it. Meanwhile, those playing by the rules still struggle.

You don't want to work hard? Don't worry, elect liberals, and we'll give you a public sector union job with lifetime job protection and insane benefits.

You shot somebody while committing a crime? Well, as long as you claim that mommy was hard on you, it's not your fault, so we'll give you another chance.

More adderall.

What's tired and pathetic is your attempt at spin.

Spin? Unlike you, I hold people accountable, not "ideals".

Their previous occupation has EVERYTHING to do with their current job no matter HOW much you want to scream and cry it doesn't and want to spin it pissing and moaning that its all the "liberal's" fault.

They are a group of people who should have known better, but let him out anyhow. Why? No clue, can't see the minutes of the parole hearing and what WAS published is nothing but hearsay and speculation.



More adderall.



Spin? Unlike you, I hold people accountable, not "ideals".

Likwid, you claimed that ONE is most of SEVEN, and when I called you on that, you dodged.

Why does previous occupation have everything to do with it? I saw one cop, a bunch of probation officers (and probation officers know that the more criminals that are out on probation, the more job security they have), 2 district attorneys, and a criminologist. So what?

More adderall.



.

OK, so after my list of ridiculous liberal positions, you threw out an insult instead of a response. That tells me, and everyone else here, that you know those positions (which are irrefutably part of the liberal agenda) are indefensible. So instead of debating me, you threw out a cheap insult.

I'll give you points for originality, at least you didn't call me a racist. That's what most of your liberal bretheren do when they want to end the conversation because they know they've lost the debate.

Instead of insulting me, how about telling me why either (1) those positions I listed are NOT part of the liberal ideology, or (2) if they are part of the liberal ideology, why are they good ideas?

Likwid, you claimed that ONE is most of SEVEN, and when I called you on that, you dodged.

Why does previous occupation have everything to do with it? I saw one cop, a bunch of probation officers (and probation officers know that the more criminals that are out on probation, the more job security they have), 2 district attorneys, and a criminologist. So what?

Their previous roles give them a much better view of criminals and the system than you or anyone else. They should be able to make educated decisions in a parole hearing better than damn near anyone else and not let emotions (stop sniffling and crying) get in the way.

OK, so after my list of ridiculous liberal positions, you threw out an insult instead of a response.

Take some adderall, then we will discuss the primary topic at hand, I'm pretty sure you've whined about all those other things in pretty much every thread.

Seriously.

Adderall.

They are a group of people who should have known better, but let him out anyhow. Why?

.

liberals :uhuh:

shouldn't you have to complete at least one of your multiple life sentences before you get to have a parole hearing?

Their previous roles give them a much better view of criminals and the system than you or anyone else. They should be able to make educated decisions in a parole hearing better than damn near anyone else and not let emotions (stop sniffling and crying) get in the way.





Great, I'm sure that the previous work experience of the parole board will be of significant comfort to the family of the slain police officer.

Obviously, deciding who gets paroled and who doesn't is an inexact science, and unfortunately, mistakes will be made. As a society, I think (just my opinion) we should decide that if a mistake will be made, it's better to err on the side of public safety and keep these guys locked up.

Here in CT, we are in the middle of a home invasion trial for one of the most horrific crimes in the history of the country, a mother and 2 daughters were raped and burned to death by 2 career criminals who were out on parole. In my opinion likwid, the conservative view on crime is tougher on criminals than the liberal view, and I think it's time we lean more in the conservative direction on this issue.

However, even conservatives will let some criminals out on parole, and some of those guys will go on to hurt other people. I'm not saying conservatives would be flawless in this process. I'm saying the conservative approach would result in fewer innocent people being hurt.

someone is unusually obsessed with adderall :rotf2: must be jonesin'

If you had viewed the video of his hearing you would understand that he difinetly corned the parole board with his mister nice guy, redeemed himself from crime and was very, very sorry for the harm he had done. After listening to him you would have taken out a hankerchief and wiped your eyes.

This guy should never had been let out. Martha Stewart had to serve her full time and she is not a criminal.

No I didn't...

LOL, yes, you just didn't want to repeat what Obama and Pelosi think of the people they serve.

Ya, the same Patriotic people who make up a large portion of our
Armed Forces as grunts that make the sacrifices for all you elites.

JD, ya gotta get out and travel more, rub elbows with these people
your prejudiced against, and see what good solid people most
of them are.

LOL, yes, you just didn't want to repeat what Obama and Pelosi think of the people they serve.

Ya, the same Patriotic people who make up a large portion of our
Armed Forces as grunts that make the sacrifices for all you elites.

JD, ya gotta get out and travel more, rub elbows with these people
your prejudiced against, and see what good solid people most
of them are.
I travel for work 40-60 days/year. I think last year had me to 7 or 8 states for work (about half in the South or Mid-West) and another 3 for pleasure - not counting New England states. My job has me working with people that cover almost every demographic in the country from Russian Jewish activists supporting Israel to high profile political figures from both parties to the poorest of the poor to Gay Republican Organizations to professional athletes.

One fun part about my job is that I can't have a "Comfort Zone." One day I could be producing an event where Bill Bellichick is the guest speaker and a few days later I'm producing a fundraiser event for wounded veterans.

I'll be the first to say that I don't have nearly the life experiences as most on this forum, but one thing I do have is perspective. I've been fortunate to be forced outside of my little box of comfort regularly.

Every single person on this forum is guilty of being prejudice. I've traveled, I've bumped elbows, I've shared beers with many of people from the region... and I stand by what I said.

Cut off the two coasts and you're left with rednecks, inbreeds and polygamists... I guess that last one isn't terrible.

"but one thing I do have is perspective"JD



:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2: what a marooooon...

someone is unusually obsessed with adderall :rotf2: must be jonesin'

You dropped something:

http://www.mountolympusawards.com/images/cheeruniforms_prod.jpg

Stick to being Jim's little cheerleader without an original thought rather than trying to be funny, k?

You dropped something:

http://www.mountolympusawards.com/images/cheeruniforms_prod.jpg

Stick to being Jim's little cheerleader without an original thought rather than trying to be funny, k?

oooooohhh, touched a nerve?...are you an adderall addict? :uhuh:

Johnny D, despite your own individual observations, things are not as simple as they may seem to you. My experience with folks from different parts of the country has been mostly (not completely) from my time with the USMC. Despite your observations, not everyone in middle America watches "Hee Haw" reruns while blowing into an empty whisky jug for music, and lusting after their sister Ellie Mae.

If I was going to stereotype those folks, I'd say they were very religious, very charitable, unbelievably friendly and warm compared to New Englanders, hard-working, responsible folk who want to live their lives and raise their kids without the feds telling them how to do it.

Johnny, since you seem to think (I may be wrong) that all of the sophisticated intellectuals live on the coasts...try this sometime. Look at a map of the US that shows the per-capita budget deficits of all 50 states. Tell me what kind of financial shape New England and California are in, compared to the Midwest and Southern states. Then ask yourself where the dummies are.

People in the heartland may not be comfortable talking about existentialism while drinking apple martinis, but they love their neighbors, love their kids, and they know you can't spend what you ain't got. They may not have enough book lernin' to earn the respect of liberal elitists, but they understand how things work in the real world.

oooooohhh, touched a nerve?...are you an adderall addict? :uhuh:

Sadly no, sorry.
Accusing people of being drug addicts is classy, keep it up.

Johnny, since you seem to think (I may be wrong) that all of the sophisticated intellectuals live on the coasts...try this sometime. Look at a map of the US that shows the per-capita budget deficits of all 50 states. Tell me what kind of financial shape New England and California are in, compared to the Midwest and Southern states. Then ask yourself where the dummies are.


After that lets discuss where the technology centers are.

Sadly no, sorry.
Accusing people of being drug addicts is classy, keep it up.

you brought it up (three times).....you have an incredibly short memory don't you? hypocrit...:uhuh:

[QUOTE=likwid;822609]Quote:

Jesus, does everyone need a script for adderall before coming in here?

you brought it up.....you have an incredibly short memory don't you? hypocrit...:uhuh:

Let me explain my comment to you since you're, shall we say, a bit slow?

You need adderall because you can't stick to a subject. Re-read your posts and your obsession with bringing Obama and politics into discussions that have no political relevance.

This WAS a discussion on a parolee who shot a cop.
Why did the parole board let him go? No clue. Someone said he was a great con man and the parole board was conned. Bigtime.
Could anyone have fallen for it? Probably.
Was the DA from his case there? Nope.
Were the families of his victims there? Nope.
Were you there? (since the hearings are public) Nope.

What does this have to do with liberals or conservatives? Nothing.
What does this have to do with Obama? Nothing.
What do you add to discussions? Nothing.

Now, be a good little boy and learn how to take part in discussions in a thoughtful and informative and/or educated manner.

After that lets discuss where the technology centers are.

Most of them are in California. Unfortunately, however, there aren't nearly enough of them in California to keep that state out of debilitating debt. That crushing debt is thanks to liberal spending policies, and a liberal approach to illegal immigration, by the way...

Likwid, do you EVER get one right, even by accident? The fact is that California has all those tech companies, and Connecticut has so many billionaire hedge fund managers and the most profitable casinos in the world, yet the liberal policies have STILL managed to bankrupt those states. New England and California have tons of smart people, and therefore, tons of tax revenue. But here's the moral of the story...earth to likwid...whether you have a little money or a lot of money, you can't spend more than you've got. Liberals simply don't buy into that rule.

You unwittingly proved my point for me. If New England and California have all this revenue from sophisticated industry, and we're STILL going bankrupt, that makes us even more incompetent compared to the folks running states in Middle America. Those states figure out a way to get by with what they have, we tax ourselves into oblivion.

Likwid, since you know where all the technology centers are, why not go to one and buy a $5 calculator. Then maybe you can show me how "1" represents "most" of 7.

Game. Set. Match.

Let me explain my comment to you since you're, shall we say, a bit slow?

You need adderall because you can't stick to a subject. Re-read your posts and your obsession with bringing Obama and politics into discussions that have no political relevance.

This WAS a discussion on a parolee who shot a cop.
Why did the parole board let him go? No clue. Someone said he was a great con man and the parole board was conned. Bigtime.
Could anyone have fallen for it? Probably.
Was the DA from his case there? Nope.
Were the families of his victims there? Nope.
Were you there? (since the hearings are public) Nope.

What does this have to do with liberals or conservatives? Nothing.
What does this have to do with Obama? Nothing.
What do you add to discussions? Nothing.

Now, be a good little boy and learn how to take part in discussions in a thoughtful and informative and/or educated manner.

seething arrogance....nice....K?...I've read your posts, I wouldn't get to giddy about your thought, information or education :uhuh: and I would say that based on what you accuse me of you are indeed a hypocrit :)

Most of them are in California. Unfortunately, however, there aren't nearly enough of them in California to keep that state out of debilitating debt. That crushing debt is thanks to liberal spending policies, and a liberal approach to illegal immigration, by the way...

Most? Not quite there chief!
Pittsburg, Pennsylvania
Boston, Massachusetts
Burlington, Massachusetts
New York, New York

Can you tell me whats in these four cities? It shouldn't be hard to figure out. You can come up to 2010 instead of hanging out in 2000. Its ok, the present doesn't bite

Likwid, do you EVER get one right, even by accident?

Thankfully in the real world, yes, not in silly bastard Jim In CT liberalism is a disease land though. I'm OK with that.

Game. Set. Match.

Flag on the field, head back to your own 10 yard line, actually figure out reality outside of Michael Savage talking points.

No wonder most people don't waste their time replying to you anymore.

Maybe I'll follow suit. :btu:

Pittsburg, Pennsylvania
Boston, Massachusetts
Burlington, Massachusetts
New York, New York

Can you tell me whats in these four cities?

I know exactly what's in those 4 cities. Lots of sophisticated folk like yourself. Also, liberal legislatures, astronomical taxes, and crippling budget deficits.

You really walked right into that one...

Most? Not quite there chief!


Oh, so you're still an expert on the concept of "most", I see (remember before, when you claimed that one out of seven is "most"). Maybe you should look it up in the dictionary, I don't think it means what you think it means...

ahhhh...this is how it always ends..."I'm right and you are wrong even though I can't provide a shread of credible evidence to back up my assertions"..."you insulted me...after I insulted you"(which doesn't count)......"I speak for everyone and "we're" not talking to you anymore"....stomp, stomp...stick out tongue.....:rotf2::rotf2:...worse than little children....

maybe you guys can not make things personal and discuss it or the thread will end up locked????

It's a shame a good man is dead because he was allowed a parole hearing in the first place. Doesn't seem like we learn from the past:hs:

maybe you guys can not make things personal and discuss it or the thread will end up locked????

It's a shame a good man is dead because he was allowed a parole hearing in the first place. Doesn't seem like we learn from the past:hs:

there is a long list of such troubling occurances in Mass.

One of the pillars of liberalism is that people who make mistakes (as long as they are anointed with "victim" status) should not be held accountable for their actions.

You had unprotected sex? Don't worry, just get an abortion.

You chose not to do any homwework in high school? Don't worry, those that work will provide you with welfare.

Can't find a job in 99 weeks? Don't worry, those that are killing themselves to stay employed will give you more of their money.

You bought a $700,000 house even though you make $40,000 a year? Don't worry, we'll tell the bank to lower the amount of your mortgage and your interest rate so that you can afford it. Meanwhile, those playing by the rules still struggle.

You don't want to work hard? Don't worry, elect liberals, and we'll give you a public sector union job with lifetime job protection and insane benefits.

You shot somebody while committing a crime? Well, as long as you claim that mommy was hard on you, it's not your fault, so we'll give you another chance.





Some of the core reasons we are where we are. :(

Some of the core reasons we are where we are. :(

Amen, and God help us.

May God's love guide us all into a wonderful new year in 2011. I was hoping to weasel my way into some fishing outings with some of you this year, but baby #3 is due June 1, at which point we'll have a 4 year old, an 18 month old, and a newborn, and very little free time!

I hope all here (regardless of political beliefs!) are as joyously excited about a wonderful 2011 as I am.

God Bless!

I've traveled, I've bumped elbows, I've shared beers with many of people from the region... and I stand by what I said.

Seriously, JD, truly sorry you feel that way. There is so much to learn from others.
"even the dull and ignorant, they too have their story."

This thread sucks.

-spence

Amen, and God help us.

May God's love guide us all into a wonderful new year in 2011. I was hoping to weasel my way into some fishing outings with some of you this year, but baby #3 is due June 1, at which point we'll have a 4 year old, an 18 month old, and a newborn, and very little free time!

I hope all here (regardless of political beliefs!) are as joyously excited about a wonderful 2011 as I am.

God Bless!

congrats Jim !