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johnny ducketts
03-30-2011, 11:12 AM
For the Lure of the month discussion could we talk about glide type baits. I would like to know more about the history and origins.

thanks guys,

texican
03-30-2011, 12:09 PM
How about the bananna plug. I've always wanted to try one in the canal.

numbskull
03-30-2011, 06:49 PM
Hard to imagine anybody knows much about gliders around here......maybe one of the musky guys in the plug forum. They are pretty simple lures. Just a shape that is weighted to float neutral or sink very slowly in a level position. Usually they are nose and tail weighted. As you move the weight towards the center they get wilder and I've seen musky ones that will actually do a circle when twitched. There are lots of videos of musky glide baits on you tube. Here is the first one I found. YouTube - Demo of Kjelle Lundberg Stalker Glide Bait (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HrgGnu3Ok)

I do know Bagley's made a large (7-8") flat sided glider back in the late 80's. It never caught on in saltwater, but it is still made and apparently has a following for muskies. Costs all of $8 so I'm sure nobody in the canal would be seen dead with one ;). Here's a link. Bagley B-Flat Jerk Bait (http://www.musky.com/Features/Bflat.htm). Most of them seem to get fished pretty fast from what little I've seen.

These new Seibles obviously work. I watched Ernie do a job on me using one one night off a beach. Outfished me about 8 to 0....but it may have just been the godawful screech his 706 was making.

Some guys also use level sinking needles as a sort of glider.

Tagger
03-30-2011, 07:04 PM
feel like I'm beating a dead horse here ,, but early spring all that's needed is a small ,pearl white spook .. I like the original Jigman .. Nice glide on that plug .. Origins I guess the plueger ballerrina and before that the heddon zarragosa.. (todays zarra spook)

numbskull
03-30-2011, 07:08 PM
Now banana's are a whole 'nother story. For those that don't know, they are a Frech plug. Pretty much you have to build them yourself. They're big...3.5-4.5 oz.

They are a cross between a spook, darter, and glider. They cast only so/so and don't work great in a side current (at least for me) so I don't even carry them at the canal (probably I should since I never catch much there anyways). I've built and fished them a lot by day from a boat, however. Those I work along the surface with 1 foot jerks. They put their nose down and veer their tail to the side, throwing water. They work very well......though not necessarily better than a big spook, pencil, or flaptail. A lot of fun to fish, very visual.

Frech fished his at night. I've only tried this a little......I lose faith in them when I can't see what they are doing. Once you pull them under they work sort of like a slow glider or funny shaped darter, an action that didn't impress me. I did, however, have an interesting experience this past fall where I had a night when small fish just hammered a small one I'd made in a 6:1 preference over a needle or small danny. Would a redfin or shad rap worked as well? Maybe. Anyways, it convinced me to fish them more this season in the dark. We'll see. Here is a picture.

flyvice11787
03-30-2011, 09:04 PM
Anyone pick up the GRS Sand Pikes? Would they fall under this category?

Haus
03-30-2011, 09:19 PM
Anyone pick up the GRS Sand Pikes? Would they fall under this category?

I got a mackerel color sand spike. Sweet!
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texican
03-30-2011, 09:20 PM
Now banana's are a whole 'nother story. For those that don't know, they are a Frech plug. Pretty much you have to build them yourself. They're big...3.5-4.5 oz.

They are a cross between a spook, darter, and glider. They cast only so/so and don't work great in a side current (at least for me) so I don't even carry them at the canal (probably I should since I never catch much there anyways). I've built and fished them a lot by day from a boat, however. Those I work along the surface with 1 foot jerks. They put their nose down and veer their tail to the side, throwing water. They work very well......though not necessarily better than a big spook, pencil, or flaptail. A lot of fun to fish, very visual.

Frech fished his at night. I've only tried this a little......I lose faith in them when I can't see what they are doing. Once you pull them under they work sort of like a slow glider or funny shaped darter, an action that didn't impress me. I did, however, have an interesting experience this past fall where I had a night when small fish just hammered a small one I'd made in a 6:1 preference over a needle or small danny. Would a redfin or shad rap worked as well? Maybe. Anyways, it convinced me to fish them more this season in the dark. We'll see. Here is a picture.


Grat job on those! That yellow one is :drool:

chefchris401
03-30-2011, 09:55 PM
Anyone pick up the GRS Sand Pikes? Would they fall under this category?

I have a couple. It's a crazy plug. Like a needle and a spook all in one. It floats at rest but when you start to retrieve it dives down maybe 3 to 5 feet and suspends.

You can work it like a needle or spook depending on the conditions.

Definetly going to throw it a lot this season.

I'll post some pics later.
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flyvice11787
03-30-2011, 10:45 PM
I have a couple. It's a crazy plug. Like a needle and a spook all in one. It floats at rest but when you start to retrieve it dives down maybe 3 to 5 feet and suspends.

You can work it like a needle or spook depending on the conditions.

Definetly going to throw it a lot this season.

I'll post some pics later.
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I've seen the pics. I was just curious if anyone had thrown them to see what they do. I have a couple on order with Gary :jump:.

Haus
03-31-2011, 12:42 AM
I'd like to get a white/pink eye sand spike

WoodyCT
03-31-2011, 09:47 AM
Rapala SubWalk 15

6" and 2oz. in cool colors

Available at big box sporting retailers near you for under $20!

I have done well with this plug from the boat!

Tip down jerky slow retrieve gets it zigging and zagging nicely.

Bet they catch on in the Canal this year !

johnny ducketts
03-31-2011, 10:40 AM
I just picked up the river2sea wide glide at mike's on Saturday, subsurface glider, I think it's gonna slay at the canal this year. At 9" and 5 oz, it's gonna take a heck of a heaver to get it out there.

chefchris401
03-31-2011, 11:23 AM
I just picked up the river2sea wide glide at mike's on Saturday, subsurface glider, I think it's gonna slay at the canal this year. At 9" and 5 oz, it's gonna take a heck of a heaver to get it out there.

Saw these online, they make a 7" version that's 3oz, or something close to it, at less than half price of a sebile stick shad too.
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Big Dave
03-31-2011, 03:51 PM
feel like I'm beating a dead horse here ,, but early spring all that's needed is a small ,pearl white spook .. I like the original Jigman .. Nice glide on that plug .. Origins I guess the plueger ballerrina and before that the heddon zarragosa.. (todays zarra spook)

If I can be a bit more specific . A pearl white (Tagger) spook.

Sea Dangles
03-31-2011, 06:29 PM
I like the DOC.

mag minnow
04-03-2011, 06:05 AM
You can get the same walk the dog action from Sluggos and Hogy's too...

I like the Yo-Zuri Hydro Pencils (5"/1oz) for imitating small bait. You can walk these but only on top.