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niko
05-05-2011, 09:37 AM
i'm going to book a trip in september if anyone is interested in going. helen h is running a bunch of 2-3 day trips ranging fron $365-475. i'm leaning towards a 2 day limited load trip. looked like fun on otw last weekend.

PRBuzz
05-05-2011, 10:05 AM
I'm in!

MrHunters
05-05-2011, 10:16 AM
that DID look fun!

fish4striper
05-05-2011, 12:31 PM
I'm in, I'll check with Bill

niko
05-05-2011, 05:54 PM
you guys want to do it during the week or weekend? got weekend dates of september 10th-11th, 17th-18th. during the week mon/tues the 12th-13th or th/fri 15th-16th. any prefrences? these are all 2 day limited trips. $365/380 depending on weekend or not. 30 passengers max

PRBuzz
05-05-2011, 06:05 PM
you guys want to do it during the week or weekend? got weekend dates of september 10th-11th, 17th-18th. during the week mon/tues the 12th-13th or th/fri 15th-16th. any prefrences? these are all 2 day limited trips. $365/380 depending on weekend or not. 30 passengers max

Doesn't really matter to me with enough lead time....

5/0
05-05-2011, 08:12 PM
Yur killin me Niko,I couldn't get the coin for the May trip,and for this Canyon trip I would have to hit the Lotto:wall:
We'll see what the summer hits for me $$ wise.


5/0

Surf Caster
05-05-2011, 09:59 PM
I've been on a bunch of these trips over the years, they are a blast. You guys will have a great time!

animal
05-05-2011, 10:07 PM
In.

Fish On
05-05-2011, 11:48 PM
Count me in.

niko
05-06-2011, 05:15 AM
Yur killin me Niko,I couldn't get the coin for the May trip,and for this Canyon trip I would have to hit the Lotto:wall:
We'll see what the summer hits for me $$ wise.


5/0

hey bob - got to find a weekend w/ some decent weather to get you out groundfishing in my boat :uhuh:

ThrowingTimber
05-06-2011, 07:15 AM
I'm in the sooner we get the dates nailed down the better for me. My preference would be a weekend. If its during the week I have to beg amd bribe someone to wash dishes for me while I'm gone.. Or they'd probably just leave me a two day pile of dishes...
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fish4striper
05-06-2011, 07:37 AM
you guys want to do it during the week or weekend? got weekend dates of september 10th-11th, 17th-18th. during the week mon/tues the 12th-13th or th/fri 15th-16th. any prefrences? these are all 2 day limited trips. $365/380 depending on weekend or not. 30 passengers max

Doesn't matter to me, pick a date to nail it down for everyone

RIROCKHOUND
05-06-2011, 07:49 AM
Hopefully we'll see you out there....

niko
05-06-2011, 02:53 PM
i'll call them over the weekend and check it out. i'll put a date up monday. what's next? - i hear the billfish bite off cape verde is insane

RickBomba
05-06-2011, 03:04 PM
I'd be there in a heartbeat. Jess was looking for a 40th bday present for me. Looks like my other 40th bday present, namely Bomba jr., is due to show up one of those weekends!:fishin:

niko
05-07-2011, 11:19 AM
september 10th and 11th. price is $380. rod rental is $40 if you need it. i'll book mine this week. said they only had 5 spots booked allready and they said 24 guys max.

PRBuzz
05-07-2011, 12:14 PM
september 10th and 11th. price is $380. rod rental is $40 if you need it. i'll book mine this week. said they only had 5 spots booked allready and they said 24 guys max.

Is this like the S-B cod trip May 15th: the Helen H knows to expect a group from S-B.com? Book your own reservations?

Link Please.

niko
05-07-2011, 12:18 PM
just book your own spot. i told them there were half a dozen guys who wanted to go. i didn't mention sb.com

niko
05-10-2011, 03:19 PM
i just booked my spot. my buddy marty is coming too.

fish4striper
05-10-2011, 03:43 PM
so ,just call and say 9/10- 9/11? How many rods can ya bring?

niko
05-10-2011, 03:46 PM
just say those dates. no idea for rods - would think 3 or 4 anyway

PRBuzz
05-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Just to be sure we are on the same boat:

Rates | Helen H Fleet (http://www.helen-h.com/wp/?page_id=157)

Phone: (508) 790-0660
Date: Sept 10+11

2 Day Limited Tuna Trip – Departs 7 AM Returns Approx. 4 PM the 2nd Day
This trip is 32 hours long and is night Bait fishing with some afternoon trolling. The primary catch will be Yellow Fin, Mahi-Mahi (dolphin), Swordfish and Big Eye. This trip is limited to 30 passengers.
Fare: $ 365.00 Weekday/$ 380.00 Weekend Rod Rental: $40.00/SHIMANO ROD & REEL

niko
05-10-2011, 05:16 PM
that's it buzz

fish4striper
05-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Just booked mine, Bill booked his earlier today. 10 spots taken out of 30

PRBuzz
05-11-2011, 12:50 PM
Booked.

niko
05-14-2011, 07:26 AM
my buddy jack just booked his spot. we're up to 6. who else wants to come to the canyons - mahi, yellowfin, wahoo - maybe a sword :drool:

niko
06-12-2011, 06:46 AM
figured i bump this to see if anyone else wants in. a way to get to the canyons on a budget

JohnR
06-12-2011, 08:24 AM
Looks like a blast but my cookie jar will have a large hole in the bottom by September - Someday, next year maybe :love:

Go large!

MakoMike
06-13-2011, 01:22 PM
You guys should have talked to me first, I could have matched te price for a two day trip for the 4 of you, on a private boat with no nincompoops around.

PRBuzz
06-13-2011, 02:21 PM
Question: has anyone actually seen the 50% reservation fee billed their credit card yet? I haven't so I just sent HelenH an e-mail to get the story, i.e. do I actually have a reserved spot.

Mike: if no reservation, might be an interesting opportunity for 4 of the 10 so far interested. I'd be one!

Mike: what's your experience recently doing canyon runs, 2 day, and targeting mahi, yellow's and wahoo? What's your boat? Safety gear? Sorry but trips of this kind I need to know.

MakoMike
06-14-2011, 08:31 AM
I do several overnight canyon runs every year, sometime charters sometimes just with friends. You can see the boat and get more info at my website Http://www.makomania.net Don't go expecting a wahoo, they are fairly rare Most common catch are yellowfin and albacore, mahi-mahi are also a good possibility. Other, less common catches include White and blue marlin, bigeye tuna, and wahoo.

The fishing is trolling during the day and chunking at night, most of my equipment is 6 foot stand-up rods with Penn International 80Ws on them. Feel free to PM me with questions.

niko
06-14-2011, 11:45 AM
[QUOTE=PRBuzz;865340]Question: has anyone actually seen the 50% reservation fee billed their credit card. They have not charged me yet. Prob just pay at the boat and they whack you if you biff out
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Swede
06-14-2011, 02:41 PM
Having been on over 20 tuna trips on the Francis Fleet, its no day at the beach! Had some limit trips and some no fish trips. Bring some squid jigs. Live squid always seemed to be the best bait. Try to sleep on the way out cause we fished from 4 pm to approx 8am. The bite might turn on at any time so You don't wanna be in the rack when it happens. To have a good chance to get some fish You have to stay up for 16 hrs. I love My beer, but only bring monster or other power drinks to stay up for the night. Also bring one of those throwable boat cushions to sit on. Good luck Guys! One thing i'd bring the next time is a line counter that clips on the rod. When the Capt says marking at 120 its hard to judge without one. The Gal next to me nailed em cause she had one and I didn't.

PRBuzz
07-11-2011, 08:05 AM
Anyone interested in the Sept HelenH trip, try to watch last week's OTW show. Showed the trip I think from last Fall catching yellowfin, mahi and the 82lb wahoo. Good show for info on what you might expect and experience. You might see some faces you'll recognize, right RoyL?

Piscator
07-11-2011, 08:18 AM
Can't go, wife bought tickets to the Island Creek Oyster Festival in Duxbury on the 10th. She's exicted and planned it with some of my buddied wifes so there is a big group of us going and it is in my best interest not to get out of it.........

niko
08-02-2011, 06:19 PM
TTT. i'm not sure if there is any room left but if you want some yellowfin tuna or mahi give them a call and book a spot. little over a month away.

Fish On
08-23-2011, 10:56 PM
I'm in. They said they had "quite a few" spots left.

Fish On
08-25-2011, 11:50 PM
I've heard one pretty good report. Who's been out? Let's have some news from the Canyons......please! Get pumped!

Mr. Sandman
08-26-2011, 09:49 AM
MM,
You can do a 2 day canyon trip for 1600???

Mr. Sandman
08-26-2011, 10:03 AM
As for reports....it changes week to week out there depending on temp breaks, storms etc...In gengeral, YFT this time of year can be insane.. They can be thick as thieves and IMO they fight like hell and taste better than bluefin and you can boat a bunch of them in a day. Mahi, and albacore (longfin) are also somewhat abundant. Every now and again you get a bigeye or a wahoo or even a marlin, but I don't know how you would catch a marlin on a headboat.
Sharks and Swords at night...try for squid. check this video about squidfishing out there:
Squid slaughter at Fish Tails - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rewJgAnKBu4&feature=player_embedded)

IMO the best thing about being out there is the blue water...awesome. You know when you have arrived.

MakoMike
08-26-2011, 11:28 AM
MM,
You can do a 2 day canyon trip for 1600???

Yes! 4 anglers max. to keep it comfortable.

Mr. Sandman
08-26-2011, 11:34 AM
WoW!! Guys, that is a bargin!

Most guys I know that do overnighters start at 2500 and it goes up from there.

Fish On
08-26-2011, 12:35 PM
Great video Jim. Thanks for sharing! Do you know what was chasing them?

Fish On
08-27-2011, 08:33 PM
Hurricane is bearing down on us and I'm thinking about fishing rods. So what do you think? What is the best size reel for this type of fishing? A 50? An 80? Line? 100lb? I might pull the trigger on a new stick.

Fish On
08-28-2011, 12:37 AM
A good quick read on the experience....

Fall Tuna Fishing in New England (http://www.nesportsman.com/articles/article176.shtml)

niko
08-28-2011, 09:35 AM
we need to figure out what we need to bring for rods and terminal stuff. less than 2 weeks to go

PRBuzz
08-28-2011, 10:56 AM
No sure this is correct, but from watching the OTW TV video of the show they did from the HelenH, when trolling it is the boat's rods/reels/gear, at least that is what it seemed? When jigging it is your own gear/jigs/etc.? You are scheduled as to when you man a trolling line, and hope for the best.

I'm not planning on bringing a Penn Gold (my smallest is a 50) but was planning on bringing 2 spinning setups capable of handling anything we might hook onto on this trip (yellowfin/wahoo/mahi/etc). Also an assortment of jigs.

Mr. Sandman
08-28-2011, 01:52 PM
Highly recommend a quality 2 speed reel that is loaded with braid with a 50+ yard mono leader.(100-130#) . A multi speed reel will make your day. (rec hollow core braid) I would consider 50W reels with appropriate rods. 80's are about as big as you want to deal with on stand up gear and 30wide 's are as small as you want, if you go 30 drop down to about 80# braid to get the capacity you need. 50W LRS's are ideal IMO, you have the stopping power and decent capacity with braid. If you have to fish all mono...then you need an 80W. I don't think you can put enough mono on a 50 to stop a big yellowfin unless you chase him and that is not going to happen on a party boat. Also a good spinner (aka like the Terez) with an appropriate spin reel that can withstand 75# yft, large sharks, etc also loaded with A LOT of braid. You will need a harness...several guys can probably share one

I would think they have rods though...esp for trolling.

niko
08-28-2011, 04:41 PM
I'm going to bring a setup for getting bait, a 320gt2 for night mahi, a heavy tuna spinning setup for drifting
chunks or jigging. For trolling I'll just use their stuff.
Probably should bring a 50 to put out a sword bait
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ThrowingTimber
08-29-2011, 08:48 AM
I'm in and I'm paid. They take your card info and charge on the day you sail.

as of 9:45am 08/29/2011 they have 10 spots left.

The woman I spoke with in their office is going to Email me a list of suggested gear in case you decide to bring your own opposed to their rentals.
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niko
08-29-2011, 02:07 PM
Glad you're coming victor, if you get that email with what to bring post it. I don't think they have my email addy
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fish4striper
08-30-2011, 01:34 PM
Some good party boat tuna fishing info on this site.

VOYAGER Sportfishing, Point Pleasant Beach, NJ - Stand-up Fishing (http://www.voyagerfishing.com/html/stand-up_fishing.html)


Looks like we need egg sinkers to get the bait down. Paul, You make any at leadfeast? or I guess we could rubberband some bank sinkers.

Bring squid jigs in case squid are around to catch for bait.

I'm bringing a 50, a stella, and one small rod

PRBuzz
08-30-2011, 02:24 PM
Based on prior advice, I'll bring my 50 2-speed and 2 spinning. I have the AFTCO 2-piece belt so we can strap in for the big'uns.

I have some bait hooks rigged with I think 2oz egg sinkers...

Is it worth bringing RONZ, shanka's, etc?

ThrowingTimber
08-30-2011, 03:52 PM
No email received from them yet. I curious as to rods. Terminal tackle, trolling both rod and reel as well as lures do we provide our own shankas? Or green ma chines tuna feathers etc?
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niko
08-30-2011, 04:26 PM
Looks like we need egg sinkers to get the bait down. Paul, You make any at leadfeast?
good link - i'm gonna read it when the kids go to bed. i've got egg sinkers to 6 oz. do you have any heavy flouro for a sword rig? i've got tons of longline circle hooks.
[QUOTE=PRBuzz;883902]
Is it worth bringing RONZ, shanka's, etc?
i would bring some ronz and metal to jig
No email received from them yet. I curious as to rods. Terminal tackle, trolling both rod and reel as well as lures do we provide our own shankas? Or green ma chines tuna feathers etc?
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i don't know what they usually troll but i'm going to bring some ballyhoo, green machine daisy chain, and some plastic behind a bird. one other thing - spin those jigging reels up w/ the color changing line so when he says he's marking fish at 150 feet you can put the jigs in front of their faces. this will be a great time really looking forward to it - let's hope for good seas

PRBuzz
08-30-2011, 05:22 PM
Katia about on the wrong time line and track!!!!!!
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Gloucester2
09-02-2011, 01:10 PM
I tuna fish with the Helen H a handful of times every year . . . here is my take for what it is worth

Trolling - they set up 8 man teams and rotate every 20 minutes or so. They use all their own tackle and lures - I've seen people try to add there own "favorites" to the spread and it becomes problematic. My advice leave all the trolling stuff to them and focus on the jigging and bait set ups.

Once a fish is hooked on the troll Joe will take the boat out of gear and guys will jig from around the boat - last trip many of the best fish were hooked on jigs. As to what gear to use - I use 2 Saltiga 40's with 80 pound braid - the color coded line is helpful. As to jigs - no need to get fancy 8 - 10 hammered diamonds work as well as anything.

Bait setups - once they set up to chunk they really prefer mono - only in the water - which dictates a larger reel. "Middle of the road" is a 50 wide size reel with 100 pound mono . . . you'll see guys using larger and smaller but a 50 is the standard.

I also bring a Saltiga 4500 and 7 foot St Croix that I can use for catching live squid and it doubles as a nice setup for Mahi . . . last trip we had few squid around the boat but the mahi were cruising all over - throw a chunk of butterfish at them and hold on :drool:

Bring a sleeping bag and plan on sleeping on the way out and the way in . . . the chunk bite has not really heated up from what I've heard and most of the action we saw came at sunset and sunrise - but every trip is different.

One comment on spinning gear - I know it is becoming all the rage - and I have a Stella 10000 - but I would never think of bringing it on a trip like this - guys do - but with the high railings I just don't think they work well - there willl be zero opportunities to cast to breaking fish (even if they were breaking - the crew would not let anyone cast overhand for safetly reasons) -

Wish I could join you guys for this one but I have travel commitments already booked - best of luck and say Hi to Matty and Jiggin John for me :rotf2:

RIROCKHOUND
09-02-2011, 01:16 PM
Katia about on the wrong time line and track!!!!!!
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Bring dramamine.
big, long swell (or worse) next weekend.

niko
09-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Thanks for the info Gloucester, it helps. Now let's watch the forecast
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fish4striper
09-03-2011, 07:22 AM
Once a fish is hooked on the troll Joe will take the boat out of gear and guys will jig from around the boat - last trip many of the best fish were hooked on jigs. As to what gear to use - I use 2 Saltiga 40's with 80 pound braid - the color coded line is helpful. As to jigs - no need to get fancy 8 - 10 hammered diamonds work as well as anything.

Bait setups - once they set up to chunk they really prefer mono - only in the water - which dictates a larger reel. "Middle of the road" is a 50 wide size reel with 100 pound mono . . . you'll see guys using larger and smaller but a 50 is the standard.


Thanks for the info. So the only time you can use braid is when they stop the boat trolling ?

No way when they're chunking? Waht about catching the mahi when they're chunking? Can you use a spinning rod with braid for that?

niko
09-03-2011, 03:57 PM
I talked to them during the week and they told they would put a list of recommended gear together and email it out but have not received it - would be nice to have it sooner than later to get organized. Good news is the weather is looking better
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niko
09-04-2011, 08:18 PM
just watched the otw show again - they were using braid

fish4striper
09-07-2011, 11:05 AM
still no emails guys? think we'll sail?

ThrowingTimber
09-07-2011, 11:23 AM
Called and spk/w them this am. No emails with details re: gear yet. Doubt we'll receive the emails. Re: weather and sailing they said they would have a better idea tomorrow afternoon ie. As to how the current hurricane/storm tracks.. Offshore/inland. Basically the overall tone was wait and see.
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fish4striper
09-07-2011, 01:20 PM
from another site:

First Tuna Trips of 2011 on the Helen H

2 Day Tuna August 17 & 18, 2011

We picked away on the Ma-hi through out the night along with a 80 lb Swordfish. Ma-hi were up to 10 lbs, with only a few tuna before daybreak. We set backup on the troll and picked away at the Yellow Fin until noon. We caught Yellow Fin on the troll and on jigs. Our final count was: 24 Yellow Fin, 25 Mahi and 1 Sword.

3 Day Tuna September 3,4 & 5, 2011

Mid day we showed up at the tip of Hydrographers Canyon. Before all the rigs were in the water we had one on. First fish was a 60 lb Yellow Fin. Most of the day was slow into the night with only a few more hits and a couple more tuna in the boat. In the morning we were on the troll again and put a quick 5 nice size Yellow Fin in the boat. We worked toward Oceanographers and back to Welker Canyon where we picked away on Yellow Fin and a few Long Fin Tuna. We stayed there for the night and saw our first tuna around 3:30 AM. The bite got hot from 4 to 6 AM. The biggest fish was caught by Frank Machonis from Winchendon, MA weighing in a 80 lbs.
Our final count for the trip was: 33 Yellow Fin, 4 Long Fin and 3 Ma-hi

Capt. Joe set out on another 3 Day Tuna trip yesterday Tuesday and as of last night he had 7 Yellow Fin, 2 Long Fin and a 15 lb Ma-hi. The full report will be posted when he returns on Thursday September 8.

PRBuzz
09-07-2011, 02:03 PM
Nice hope the bite continues inspite of Katia!
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Mr. Sandman
09-07-2011, 02:47 PM
This is why I don't go on "planned" offshore trips, I wait till the day or two before to make a go no go decision.

FRI
E OF 70W...SHIFTING WINDS 35 TO 60 KT...EXCEPT WITHIN 60
NM OF THE CENTER OF KATIA TO 70 KT EARLY. WINDS BECOMING NW AND
DIMINISHING TO 15 TO 25 KT...EXCEPT FAR E PORTION TO 30 KT LATE.
SEAS SUBSIDING TO 10 TO 17 FT LATE...HIGHEST E. W OF 70W...N TO
NW WINDS 25 TO 35 KT EARLY...DIMINISHING TO W 10 TO 15 KT LATE.
SEAS SUBSIDING TO 6 TO 10 FT LATE...HIGHEST E.

SAT
WINDS BECOMING W TO SW 10 TO 15 KT...EXCEPT N PORTION N
TO NE LATE. SEAS SUBSIDING TO 4 TO 8 FT.

SUN
N TO NE WINDS 10 TO 20 KT DIMINISHING TO 10 KT OR LESS
LATE. SEAS BECOMING 4 TO 5 FT.
$$


There will probably be a good swell on Sat. Might want to think of getting those scopolamine out and ready!

niko
09-07-2011, 02:50 PM
i would be surprised if we don't go. forcast looks doable, maybe a little lumpy sat morning but laying down. those reports look good enough to me. lets go kill some fish boys

fish4striper
09-07-2011, 02:56 PM
This is why I don't go on "planned" offshore trips, I wait till the day or two before to make a go no go decision.


If we had boats like yours ,we'd be doing the same!

Unfortunately it's very tough to ho a ride on a canyon do-able boat. i was lucky enough to get an invite this year once.

niko
09-07-2011, 02:59 PM
i just called them and the capt is going to call me after they get in tomorrow and answer our questions. so if you've got a question, post it and i'll ask him. i'll ask him leader and hook size for chunking tuna and mahi. what size weights for chunking tuna. is braid ok.

Mr. Sandman
09-07-2011, 03:13 PM
fish4striper: I hear ya...but anytime a storm like this passes....I would wait for things to settle down abit. I know I am over cautious.

But it could also lay down and be great fishing !

Be safe out there guys. I don't want to read about this trip in the paper.

ThrowingTimber
09-07-2011, 03:31 PM
I'm all in agreement to play it safe. But if its ON out there and its layed down... I'd rather be out there than reading about it, of that makes any sense.
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Mr. Sandman
09-07-2011, 03:44 PM
I know...I would to, but you might want to consider postponing it a week or so just so the trip is more comfortable. It is a lot more fun when you don't have to hold on all day long.

niko
09-07-2011, 04:14 PM
last wx report i saw was for 3-6' sat and 3-5' sun. in a hundred foot boat that's not bad. certainly not ideal but still doable. still a few days away, forcasts have a way of changing quickly - maybe we should make a sacrifice to the fish gods for fair weather. so who are we going to sacrifice - maybe sandman and his yellow crocs

PRBuzz
09-07-2011, 04:17 PM
still a few days away, forcasts have a way of changing quickly - maybe we should make a sacrifice to the fish gods for fair weather. so who are we going to sacrifice - maybe sandman and his yellow crocs

Why waste a great boater, find a boat googan!:rotf2:

Find out how many ave booked this weekend's trip? Full boat or will we have plenty of room?

Mr. Sandman
09-07-2011, 05:05 PM
...I must be gettin old I guess.

niko
09-07-2011, 07:09 PM
all in good fun sandman. just remember we all have boat envy

Fish On
09-07-2011, 10:13 PM
Here's my list of potential items. So the obvious first questions are, How much room is available? and How much shhhhtuff can we bring? :-) I feel like I should lighten up. What am I missing?

What is the best personal ePirb on the market today? I might pick one up if I can before Saturday.

Also, what do guys recommend for line counters (put the bait at the right depth)

Rods
2 50’s (hollow braid with mono top shot)
Smaller boat rod (braid)
Surf rod

Tackle
Trolling lures
Squid jigs
Sabiki rigs
Diamond jigs
Tuna hooks/rigs
Shark hooks/rigs
60 and 80 lb Flouro (need heavier?)
Light sticks
Balloons

Equipment
Self inlflatable life jacket with strobe
Boat cushion
Pocket knife
Gimbel belt/harness
Gloves
Head lamp
Crimp tool/mono cutters

Fish On
09-07-2011, 10:34 PM
Definately don't want to compromise safety for any reason, but it appears as though hurricane Katia should be gone in time.

Hurricane KATIA (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?5-daynl?large)

Would I be too optimistic if I started to think that this track could push warm core eddies and lots of palagics up onto the shelf? I don't want to underestimate the negative effects that dirty water can have and I am NO expert, but maybe the water it pushes in will be deep and clean as opposed to storms that come in close or over land that churn and dirty-up shallow waters. I'm going to take the glass half full approach. Maybe the water will be 80 plus F, calm and clear and we'll be sleeping by 2 AM because we can't reel any more or there is no more room on the boat for fish! :-)

Here is the most recent temp chart I could find that wasn't clouded over.

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/show/regions/bigbight/sst/noaa/2011/img/110907.250.0711.n19.jpg

It's taken me 10 years to get this close to a canyon trip. Let's hope the storm boogies out, the fishing is tremendous and we all come home safely with tuna for the entire winter! Tight lines!

fish4striper
09-08-2011, 07:51 AM
Latest canyon f/c :

Hydro:

Saturday 9/10
Morning
Light winds with a slight chop. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: WSW 9 to 13 knots
Seas: E 5 feet at 9 sec.
Afternoon
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: WSW 10 to 14 knots
Seas: E 4 feet at 8 sec.

Sunday 9/11
Morning
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Moderate short period wind waves.
Winds: ENE 14 to 20 knots
Seas: ENE 7 feet at 6 sec.
Afternoon
Light winds with a slight chop. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: ENE 10 to 14 knots
Seas: ENE 6 feet at 6 sec

fish4striper
09-08-2011, 08:01 AM
Rods
2 50’s -one too many IMHO, how long is the mono, they might not allow the braid, you may want to call them
Smaller boat rod (braid)
Surf rod-why? they don't allow overhand casting

Tackle
Trolling lures- I think they only use their own
Squid jigs
Sabiki rigs
Diamond jigs
Tuna hooks/rigs
Shark hooks/rigs
60 and 80 lb Flouro (need heavier?)
Light sticks
Balloons

Equipment
Self inlflatable life jacket with strobe
Boat cushion
Pocket knife
Gimbel belt/harness
Gloves
Head lamp- not really needed, boat is all lit up
Crimp tool/mono cutters

missing- rain gear, warm clothes, can always take off,if you plan to sleep, sleeping bag and/or blanket, pillow

Fish On
09-08-2011, 10:46 AM
TY! I had 1 rod restrung with the heavy stuff and I think 150 - 200 yds of mono top shot. I was planning to bring the 2nd 50 and have it rigged and ready for shark in case a big mako comes along and also as a backup if the first rod is out of commission. I guess you can tell, I'm the kinda guy who would rather have it and not use it than not have it and need it, but there is a limit. Thanks for the feedback.

niko
09-08-2011, 04:31 PM
still no word from them. thier customer service sucks. just tried to call the office and got the machine

PRBuzz
09-08-2011, 05:29 PM
still no word from them. thier customer service sucks. just tried to call the office and got the machine

Opens and 9AM and I think they are shut before 3PM. But you are right, no customer service, especially if you get the younger lady/girl! I left my e-mail to get the suggested bring list and still nothing...

niko
09-09-2011, 05:10 AM
ANZ083-091430-
SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND...FROM THE GREAT SOUTH CHANNEL TO HUDSON
CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS SOUTH OF MARTHAS VINEYARD AND
NANTUCKET ISLAND...OUT TO 1000 FM
500 AM EDT FRI SEP 9 2011

SAT
WINDS BECOMING NE 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT...HIGHEST
SE.

SAT NIGHT
NE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT BECOMING E. SEAS BUILDING TO 4
TO 5 FT.

SUN
E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT DIMINISHING TO VARIABLE 10 KT OR LESS
LATE. SEAS BECOMING 3 TO 4 FT.

looks like it is going to be decent out there boys. packed up all my gear last night, you'd think we were going out for a month w/ all the crap i'm bringing

PRBuzz
09-09-2011, 05:23 AM
Ice chest? I presume we need to bring one to bring home the spoils. Does anyone know if the boat can make ice or we have to have in the cooler (pre-chilled)?

niko
09-09-2011, 05:34 AM
i'm just bringing a medium size cooler for food/drinks and fillets and a block of ice.

fish4striper
09-09-2011, 06:56 AM
Ice chest? I presume we need to bring one to bring home the spoils. Does anyone know if the boat can make ice or we have to have in the cooler (pre-chilled)?

It seemed from the OTW show, if you bring a cooler on, it takes up your bench seat on the rail. With my feeble back which is bugging me this week, I'll need to alternate between sitting and standing. :wall: Check when you get there, can probably leave a cooler in the truck or bring it on.

PRBuzz
09-09-2011, 07:26 AM
i'm just bringing a medium size cooler for food/drinks and fillets and a block of ice.

But you don't eat fish and likely won't catch much!! Time for the trash talk.
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niko
09-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Just talked to the. Need to call back after 1 pm and confirm that we are good to go.
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MarshCappa
09-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Take some video and pics guys! I've been following the thread and am happy you get to go out. Have fun and be safe.

zacs
09-09-2011, 09:19 AM
have i mentioned how effing jealous I am of you guys???!!!???

Have fun and please post a bunch of pics/vids/reports, ok?

JackK
09-09-2011, 10:50 AM
I think I'm gonna go on a four day trip leaving Monday. Good luck everyone :)
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PRBuzz
09-09-2011, 11:14 AM
Do we have a head count of SB'ers going on this trip?

I have a cooler with 120+qts of crushed ice. Should be enough for everyone to stock the coolers upon return to keep all the fillets/steaks cool for the ride home.:)

niko
09-09-2011, 11:43 AM
There are 7 of us
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Fish On
09-09-2011, 01:28 PM
Just spoke to them and they said it is a definate go. Boat leaves at 7 AM. Be there at 6.

ThrowingTimber
09-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Capt. joe just called. They provide lead egg sinkers etc for bait fishing as well as hooks. jigs he said 4-8oz. Bait rods can be rented jigging rods bring your own. 100# mono for bait rods 80# is lowest suggested. He said he was calling Phil and Paul next. :)
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fish4striper
09-09-2011, 02:39 PM
They told Bill you could use braid if you had at least a 25ft mono topshot. I'm assuming this is on a jigging rod.

niko
09-09-2011, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty excited. Thanks to everyone for coming, biggest fish gets a nice plug, one of kilsongs GT poppers
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PRBuzz
09-09-2011, 03:35 PM
They told Bill you could use braid if you had at least a 25ft mono topshot. I'm assuming this is on a jigging rod.

Hope they don't measure! Divided what fluoro I had left and put on 2 setups, maybe 20' on each.
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PRBuzz
09-09-2011, 03:41 PM
Capt. joe just called. They provide lead egg sinkers etc for bait fishing as well as hooks. jigs he said 4-8oz. Bait rods can be rented jigging rods bring your own. 100# mono for bait rods 80# is lowest suggested. He said he was calling Phil and Paul next. :)
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These calls are nice but overdue and better done 2-4 days before the trip to answer questions. Of course the go/no go can only be done night before. See everyone nice and early.

Who's bringing the donuts?
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animal
09-11-2011, 10:36 PM
I want pix,damnitt!:smash:

niko
09-12-2011, 04:39 AM
we kicked azz. lots of tuna. pics and reports to come. i've got alot of meat if anyone wants any tuna.

fish4striper
09-12-2011, 06:05 AM
EPIC!!!

JohnR
09-12-2011, 06:25 AM
;)

Jealous :btu:

niko
09-12-2011, 07:00 AM
Yft, mahi, longfin albacore, skipjack, wahoo, tiger sharks, and fishon's monster that we battled for an hour and a half on a 50 before I busted it off
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RIROCKHOUND
09-12-2011, 07:04 AM
how far east were you guys? Any idea

blondterror
09-12-2011, 07:05 AM
What was the largest (longest and heaviest) fish boated?

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 07:06 AM
The pre trip planning was a bit rough because they dont have a gear list on their web site like the big jamaica does. Aside from that the boat was super spotless (before we got it all bloody). galley was clean. capt was awesome kept us on fish. facilities were super clean for a for hire vessel.

we had 21 anglers on the boat, broke it up into trolling teams of 7 with team sb up first (team 1). Not 10 minutes into the troll Bill Jr. had a skipjack and I had a mahi that went 12# after being iced and bled. We all commented that we hoped this would set the tone for the rest of the trip.. IT DID :uhuh::kewl:

I didnt get a bunch of pictures because I had candi's camera and havign my hands covered in mahi blood after minute 3 trolling I didnt break out the camera as much as I would have liked.

PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 07:19 AM
FYI I started a second thread as a trip summary, maybe a mistake not to continue this one?

fish4striper
09-12-2011, 07:27 AM
how far east were you guys? Any idea

Pretty sure we went to Ocean.


I'll post some pics later today.

niko
09-12-2011, 08:18 AM
Will you guys email me a bunch of pics. I don't have any. pauldevitt68@comcast.net
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PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 08:22 AM
Pretty sure we went to Ocean.


I'll post some pics later today.

Yup, I 2nd that about 5.5hrs @18-20knots on a zig-zag course where ever that gets you: Capt. needs autopilot on that boat!

PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 08:23 AM
Will you guys email me a bunch of pics. I don't have any. pauldevitt68@comcast.net
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I'm working on video and will post link(s) so you can download but would also like any pics: prbuzz@comcast.net

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:29 AM
Bill Jr.'s hooked up first fish of the trip and his skipjack:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:33 AM
Paul hooked up!

:)

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:38 AM
Bill Sr. hooked up and his yellowfin::)

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:41 AM
Hooked up :uhuh:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:43 AM
Here's Keith getting it done! YEAH BUDDY!! :uhuh:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 08:52 AM
thats about when I put the camera away. Its tough to take pictures of yourself.

PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 09:03 AM
Video link for those not switching report threads:

http://vid772.photobucket.com/albums/yy10/PRBuzz/th_HelenHtripSept2011-1.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/albums/yy10/PRBuzz/?action=view&current=HelenHtripSept2011-1.mp4)

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:06 AM
my second yellow :uhuh: Thanks for the shot keith!

PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 09:07 AM
my second yellow :uhuh: Thanks for the shot keith!

Victor wakes ups at about 3AM and gets a hot hand boating 2 yellows off the stern in quick fashion, man was he so stoked no more sleep for him!

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:19 AM
2am:

Those two brothers from Central mass and that dude from the Bronx were DOING WORK back there! I walked back there yawning no rod in hand, and I believe his name was Frank, thought I was Billy the mate and he asked me to gaff his fish for him. I grabbed the gaff set steel just behind its gill plate handed him the gaffed fish and ran inside to grab my bait rod!! :uhuh: As I ran inside all I heard was ssssshhhhh shhhhhh whisper whisper.. chuckle chuckle.. They had closed the door to the galley so you couldnt hear any fish hitting the deck if you were racked out inside. :rotf2:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:26 AM
sb trolling team1:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:29 AM
AM troll:

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:34 AM
12 yr old capt. son had luck on the troll and got this Wahoo. We got back to the dock they weighed and measured it for a state pin. Then they shared a piece of the wahoo with each of us

Blonde Terror: this was the longest and heaviest fish. Aside from the tiger sharks these maniacs were messing around with all night :)

fish4striper
09-12-2011, 09:35 AM
Like to thank Paul (Niko) for organizing this trip. I’ve done some inshore party boats trips and really don’t favor them but since Paul pulled this trip together, I said wth, I’ll give it a try. Well, if ever a PB trip could be “EPIC” this was the one, must’ve been all the S-B mojo onboard.

It was a real pleasure fishing with Paul, Victor, Keith, Buzz, and my friend Bill and his son Billy. I didn’t get some pics of Keith and Victor’s fish as they were on the other side of the boat when they hooked up. I'd fish with these guys anytime.

The Helen H Capt. Joe Huckemyer did an outstanding job putting us on fish. Also running around the boat gaffing fish, not many PB capts doing that. His chief mate Matty ran the pit like a well oiled machine. If you ever want to hit a canyon trip, go with these guys.

Here are some pics :

Our illustrious leader putting some heat to the fish
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0007.jpg
The pool winner I believe
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0016.jpg
Buzz’s long fin
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0030.jpg
One of mine
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0020.jpg

Billy putting some heat to his big one

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0032.jpg
His 65 lber
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/P1000501.jpg
Matty –chief mate, guy’s a well oiled machine never slept till the boat was spotless and steaming back
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/fish4stripers/9_10_11_canyon%20trip/MEMO0033.jpg

ThrowingTimber
09-12-2011, 09:38 AM
Ride back: A quick meeting of the fresh fish destroyers :devil2::drool::uhuh:

bassballer
09-12-2011, 10:20 AM
sweet pics guys. Looks like a good time

Fish On
09-12-2011, 10:31 AM
What an incredible trip! The SB guys were amazing in both their ability to catch fish and camaraderie. I can’t remember how many times I thought, “It doesn’t get any better than this”! Paul and Bill Jr. landed the two biggest yellowfins, both over 60 lbs. I think we caught like 70 or 80 total yellows. The Wahoo in the morning was the icing on the cake. Everyone was ecstatic for the 12 year old that landed that 70 lb monster.

The Helen H crew and boat were fantastic. These guys understand how to run a party boat and service the customers. If you asked a question, they answered it, if they didn’t know, they found out. They put us on the fish and kept us there. And when Bill Jr. hooked into his big yellow and it dumped like 300 yds in the first couple minutes the captain said, “All lines in we have a big fish on” and he revved the engines and chased the thing down with Bill Jr. ultimately landing the fish on the bow, 100 ft from where he hooked it.

Fishing with the S-B crew was awesome! I felt like I was fishing with boyhood friends. We were all there for each other when needed and had an absolute blast. I forgot my heavy swivels and Victor handed me a package. I took one out and tried to give the rest back and he said keep em, I have plenty and you’ll need em. Thanks Victor! I had a minor miscue during a lull late night and ended up with a bird’s nest on my main rod made of my brand new 130 lb mono (just spooled by Pete Santini at Fishing Finatics. Thanks Pete!). Buzz sat with me for quite a while and helped me pull it out and we saved ALL the line! Thanks Buzz!

Paul, can’t thank you enough for putting this trip together! I echo Fish for Striper. I would fish with these guys and do this again in a heartbeat! Here are a few of the pics that I got. Individual e-mails will follow.

Fish On
09-12-2011, 10:33 AM
couple more...nice tuna Bill Jr.! Nice wahoo!

bart
09-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Awesome!

Fish On
09-12-2011, 10:36 AM
last couple...Nice long fin Buzz!

animal
09-12-2011, 11:04 AM
Pretty work,boys!

MarshCappa
09-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Those are some cute little fish you guys caught!:rotf2: You know I'm kidding! Way to go! Team S-B rocks again!

timmah
09-12-2011, 01:03 PM
That is so Awesome, looks like a great time, I was thinking about you guys on Sat while casting to nothingness in Newport.

Gloucester2
09-12-2011, 01:16 PM
"Those two brothers from Central mass . . ." Jiggin John and his brother Frank

You guys had a great trip !

fish4striper
09-12-2011, 02:13 PM
"Those two brothers from Central mass . . ." Jiggin John and his brother Frank

You guys had a great trip !

Those guys were animals! He never stopped jigging, I thought he had a servo motor hooked up to that rod!

Rob Rockcrawler
09-12-2011, 02:34 PM
Awesome trip guys. I was waiting for the pics and story on this one.

JohnR
09-12-2011, 02:49 PM
Does look like an Awesome trip :btu:

niko
09-12-2011, 05:34 PM
thanks to everyone for coming. you all worked your asses off and it paid off bigtime - it was truely an amazing trip with a great group of guys. we will make this an annual trip - maybe next year we will book the boat for ourselves. i'm pretty banged up. the biggest of the tuna on sat thumped my hand pretty good w/ it's tail and it's pretty swollen still and i've lost some mobility in my thumb. my wife, a nurse, thinks it may be broken. a few great trip memories - victors neverending ear to ear grin, me ruthlessly busting kieths nuts that he could not land the unknown beastie and as soon as i had the rod turning to him and saying "i take it all back", everyone cheering on tyler (captains 12 yo son) while he fought his first tuna, the terminator brothers john and frank- the 2 hardest working guys i've seen on a boat aside from matt the mate, and many more. helen H is a top notch operation, hats off to them, would go w/ them again in a heartbeat. what's next - maybe a trip to the carolinas for a big red drum from the surf or winter sailfish from miami?

niko
09-12-2011, 05:44 PM
i forgot... togfest II is next, then carolinas or miami

striperman36
09-12-2011, 05:47 PM
12 men 1 boat

PRBuzz
09-12-2011, 06:45 PM
the biggest of the tuna on sat thumped my hand pretty good w/ it's tail and it's pretty swollen still and i've lost some mobility in my thumb. my wife, a nurse, thinks it may be broken.

You are lucky it was your thumb, I know a guy that got his bells rung really good with a blue fin tail, right Skippy?:rotf2:


So that is your excuse for not man-handling the Keith shark?:) No really, I've never seen a guy pull harder in defeat.

Get that thumb fixed/cured pronto, Tog-fest II will be here before you know it and you don't want a tog taking you to the cleaner!:jump1:

MikeD
09-12-2011, 11:15 PM
Great pics! what a wahoo!

fish4striper
09-13-2011, 06:23 AM
some pics here Capt posted:

Saltwater Fishing Discussion Board Including Inshore Fishing, Offshore Fishing, Saltwater Fly Fishing and Kayak Fishing (http://www.noreast.com/discussion/ViewTopic.cfm?topic_ID=149894&page=2)

JackK
09-19-2011, 02:21 PM
Anyone recognize themselves?

PRBuzz
09-19-2011, 03:06 PM
Must be a photo taken from the Francis fleet boat just before we decided to all give it the royal finger salute for moving in on our hot with fish area! :)
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JackK
09-19-2011, 03:11 PM
Nope!

Gloucester2
09-19-2011, 03:31 PM
Yankee Clipper in the canyons ? :shocked:

PRBuzz
09-19-2011, 04:02 PM
Yankee Clipper in the canyons ? :shocked:

Ooops. meant the Francis fleet boat!:wall:

JackK
09-19-2011, 04:32 PM
0 for 2!

But were you guys out there Monday?

PRBuzz
09-19-2011, 04:51 PM
0 for 2!

But were you guys out there Monday?

No Sat/Sun the 10th and 11th. I didn't recognize any of the guys on the boat.

Capt did a turnaround going right back out with a charter for Mon/Tues.

At least I'm not 0 - 3 yet!

niko
09-19-2011, 07:16 PM
viking. let's do a tile trip next year :uhuh:

Goose
09-19-2011, 09:24 PM
awesome, looking forward to Tog-fest II

JackK
09-20-2011, 07:52 AM
Yeah, viking star, sounds like a similar trip to yours except we had a ton of longfin, mahi, and got to tangle with a few swords. Definitely an awesome time out there- I could see this becoming a new (and expensive) addiction.

I had forgotten how good fresh wahoo was... fish tacos last night were amazing!

niko
10-04-2011, 05:05 PM
the wahoo from our trip made the cover of the fisherman last week

PRBuzz
12-15-2011, 02:23 PM
Official trip report for anyone that didn't see it. Great pictures of a few of the S-B.com team.

Fabulous 2 Day Tuna Trip | Helen H Fleet (http://www.helen-h.com/wp/?p=345)