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Plum Crazy

08-05-2011, 01:06 PM

Now they are saying it was from a boat?

This morning, Striper Cup angler Greg Myerson weighed in a striped bass that registered 81.88 pounds on the scale at Jack’s Shoreline in Westbrook, Connecticut – almost 12 hours after it had been landed Thursday evening aboard a boat in Long Island Sound. If the fish had been properly documented, it could have been eligible for the world record. However, at the moment Myerson has decided to take the fish home at not pursue record certification. Here’s a photo of the fish, taken earlier this morning.
_OTW

Oh how I hate the games that are played when something like this happens

chefchris401

08-05-2011, 01:07 PM

when a world record fish is caught like this or any other, the igfa verifies all the details.

heres the paperwork that needs to be filled out, its pretty thorough.

http://www.igfa.org/PDF/IGFA_Record_Application_2011.pdf

read the top part of page 1, they will subject you to a ploygraph if need be.

Hopefully he comes away from this with the new record.

if they open it up and its got 5 lbs of lead form yo yo bunker bunker but he has nothing to do with it, that would suck for the angler

MrHunters

08-05-2011, 01:08 PM

technology is a biatch sometimes... case in point.

UserRemoved1

08-05-2011, 01:09 PM

"Al McReynolds' 78.8-pound record, caught in Atlantic City, NJ, has stood since 1982. Though many anglers have come close to that mark, it has yet to be topped. Over the years, there have also been a large amount of hoax record catches, though this time, it would seem, evidence is mounting that Stromski has legitmately toppled a record thousands have dreamed of crushing. Actually, I just got word that Stromski Myerson quickly weighed the fish and fled the scene at the tackle shop, so there is still a slight element of shadiness here."

There's something going on here. Why would you kill a big fish like that then say you weighed it then not want to submit for a record.

Sounds fishy.

MrHunters

08-05-2011, 01:09 PM

BigFish

08-05-2011, 01:10 PM

UserRemoved1

08-05-2011, 01:10 PM

"*Here's another quick update from a credible source. Mr. Stromski Myerson is apparently being so hounded he's had a panic attack. The fish is supposedly on ice in his truck, which is parked at the hospital where he's in the ER. Still not knowing how legit this catch is, it just goes to show you how powerful this fish is and how crazy people are about it."

WHAT'S NEXT IT GOT EATEN BY A RACCOON?

MrHunters

08-05-2011, 01:11 PM

larry, though it makes me sad. I keep chuckling at your sig. :)

UserRemoved1

08-05-2011, 01:13 PM

7 Pages on sol. Tammy is gonna need more storage space by dinnertime :hee:

JackK

08-05-2011, 01:13 PM

Pig fish. Story is getting weird though. Why not submit it for verification? Makes zero sense. F&S reporting the guy is at a hospital for panic attacks now?

Does kinda look like it was dragged behind a truck though, haha.

BigFish

08-05-2011, 01:13 PM

Have not updated in some time but.....it would not appear much different!:rotf2: Just more zeros!

JohnR

08-05-2011, 01:14 PM

Updated from OTW's Facebook page:

Here’s the facts, reported to us by Connecticut-based OTW writer Kierran Broatch: This morning, Striper Cup angler Greg Myerson weighed in a striped bass that registered 81.88 pounds on the scale at Jack’s Shoreline in Westbrook, Connecticut – almost 12 hours after it had been landed Thursday evening aboard a boat in Long Island Sound. If the fish had been properly documented, it could have been eligible for the world record. However, at the moment Myerson has decided to take the fish home at not pursue record certification. Here’s a photo of the fish, taken earlier this morning.

http://www.onthewater.com/assets/Myerson-81-pound-striped-bass.jpg

InTheHole

08-05-2011, 01:17 PM

All I can say is ....WOW !!! That is a monster !!!

Rockfish9

08-05-2011, 01:18 PM

Congratulations to him :btu:
quite an accomplishment pulling a record striper out of the water.

There must be a 100 pounder out there someplace
I can't believe that was caught in CT in August :wall:

thankfully he's a Red Sox fan too :fishin:

Hey Joe, he caught your fish :grins:

LMAO .. it aint over until I stop fishin'.. .. that's the beauty of striper fishing... no fish is too big for the imagination... lest we forget the pair of 100lb ( aleged) fish caught in a sein net in south ( or north, I forget) Carolina.. the a hellof a fish.. I'd like to shake the guy's hand.. he deserves that much.

UserRemoved1

08-05-2011, 01:24 PM

what's the white line above the fish?

spence

08-05-2011, 01:26 PM

what's the white line above the fish?

Antenna protruding from the brain stem.

-spence

Nebe

08-05-2011, 01:38 PM

This whole thing makes me LOL.. :buds::buds::buds::buds:

UserRemoved1

08-05-2011, 01:42 PM

Alien Bass

Nebe :wave:

Wait it's almost time for the raccoon :rotf2:

Antenna protruding from the brain stem.

-spence

Swimmer

08-05-2011, 01:47 PM

08-05-2011, 01:48 PM

Nice. The pectoral fin on that fish is larger than any bass I've caught recently.

DZ

Mike P

08-05-2011, 01:56 PM

He has 30 days to submit the paperwork, along with a section of line and at least a diagram of his terminal rig, if not the whole rig. I don't think there's any requirement that an IGFA official actually physically inspect or eviscerate the fish. Bear in mind that many WR submissions come into the IGFA's headquarters every year, for both all-tackle and line class records, from all corners of the world, and the IGFA can't possibly inspect every fish. The fish has to be weighed from land on a certified scale. It has to be measured for length and girth, and it has to be photographed. If you have a hand-scale pre-certified by the IGFA, the fish can even be released as long as a third party witness also attests to the fish. So obviously, a fish doesn't have to be cut open and checked for weights. I have 3 friends who hold or have held IGFA line class records, and none of their fish were inspected by anyone after the weighing/measuring/picture taking. One was eaten later the same day.

My guess is that Myerson took his fish home to weigh his options, and to give himself time to think about how much bull#^&#^&#^&#^& he wants to take. I'm seriously doubting the "credible source" who claims he went to the hospital with a panic attack. This isn't the guy's first trip to the rodeo.

Oh yeah--and based on the last picture that John posted---I have no doubt that the fish goes 81.88 lbs.

Fishoholic

08-05-2011, 01:57 PM

I'd love to hear the dimensions. Helluva fish... :uhuh:

JackK

08-05-2011, 01:58 PM

He should realize that regardless of what he does with the fish he was and is going to be hounded for a long time to come. So he should submit it for the IGFA record and take any money he can earn with it. I feel bad for the guy. This guy played college ball, so he has an education and is having a terrible time with it allready. Imagine what it did to Mcreynolds with his barely thier education.

This. He's already under huge scrutiny. At the very least it needs to be looked at by state biologists, other witnesses, etc. If he just runs home with it and doesn't allow it to be examined he's going to be called a cheat by many for the rest of his life.

Doesn't add up though- why not care about the IGFA record, but still care about the Cup? I think the IGFA would be 10x more important than the cup- which'll just net him a GPS and a fiberglass mount... Obviously notoriety is important to him, he made a name for himself last year, and is continuing it this year. He doesn't fish for a team. While it's great to have a shot at winning $10k, the endorsements from being the world record holder would be worth so much more.

I don't doubt that he caught it or the weight- the whole thing just seems odd to me.

cheferson

08-05-2011, 02:04 PM

took a ride . long gone ....

Owner looked stressed , had an attorney there screening calls! :biglaugh:

RIJIMMY

08-05-2011, 02:09 PM

This is great, congrats to the angler. I hope he certifies it
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Saltheart

08-05-2011, 02:11 PM

I hope it all works out for the guy. Being an experienced fisherman , he knows there will be crap about a big fish so i doubt he would do anything shady. I say nice catch and congrats on the world record. I don't care of IGFA certifies it or not. If he weighed it on a state certified scale , that weight is good with me. Yes I would think people would want to see the insides but that's up to the fisherm,an. I have seen obviously stuffed fish weighed in for tournaments at tackle shops. The things look like they have jagged weights at different angles pushing the belly out from inside. This fish looks very natural and not at all stuffed. In fact it looks less full of food than you would expect from such a big sucker.

Congrats Greg. I hope the catch brings you joy like it should and not misery from other jealous fisherman!

zacs

08-05-2011, 02:11 PM

i don't get you guys. This isn't going to ruin anybody's life. Wait, a bunch of jealous morons are questioning him on the internet! Oh No!!!

I say congrats, he should be proud, submit to IFGA, enjoy one of the most prestigious records for inshore gamefish, and F-CK all of the faceless keyboard homos who question the validity. Make some money off it if you can, and like i said, ignore the idiots.

Seriously, would you guys really care what a bunch of losers say on the internet? If you know in your heart it is true, then who really cares what these jealous idiots say.

JohnR

08-05-2011, 02:12 PM

spence

08-05-2011, 02:13 PM

I don't doubt that he caught it or the weight- the whole thing just seems odd to me.
As often in the case when stories drip, drip, drip in and there are many who want nothing more than to shoot the guy down.

Hell, simply getting his name wrong up front probably gave the conspiracy theorists all the ammo they needed :uhuh:

-spence

Rockport24

08-05-2011, 02:16 PM

Agree the guy was probably just thinking about his options. You gotta think somebody as good as him would love a world record under his belt. Quite an accomplishment.
I still, however, would like to see a pic that shows the true scale of this beast, hell call up Al M. and have HIM stand next to it!!

stinkyink

08-05-2011, 02:19 PM

Quite an accomplishment for sure!

rizzo

08-05-2011, 02:21 PM

Heres a scenario for everyone to think about: You catch a world record fish. Upon inspection by a state biologist they find it had 10 pounds of lead in it, 7 pieces of #8 rebar down the spine, pumped full of water and stuffed with rotten bunker. Theres about 30 pounds.... If you think you have the record, you NEED to prove you're innocent of these games.

In this day and age its rediculous the things people would cheat for. You're going to get criticized in this situation. Gutting the fish and finding 3 yoyo rigs is one thing, stuffing the fish is another. Upon examination and you find no tampering - alright we're on to something here, adds credibility to the record.

CowHunter

08-05-2011, 02:48 PM

He should of let them inspect the fish and submit the paperwork and then there would not be any controversey. Instead hes letting a possible world record fish rot in the back of a pickup truck? This was a pic of his 60lber from earlier this year, I know there was alot of discussion on this fish and OTW got quite a few emails. Guess they made it a point to get down there and inspect the fish today...

piemma

08-05-2011, 02:49 PM

You catch a beautiful fish and you need to be subjected to filling out a pile of paperwork for it??? Sca-rew that!! I would do just what he did....take my fish and go home! He knows he caught it and that would be enough for me were I in his shoes!:uhuh:

Larry, about 5 years ago I started a thread asking what a new Striper World Recod would be worth. I stand by what I said. If it stands up and the kid has a brain in his head, he will get the best sports attorney money can buy. The fish is work $$$$$$. Endorcements for everything from rod, reel, line, hook, swivel, boat, shoes, shorts underwear, hats, you name it. Not to mention he gets it mounted and goes on the show circuit this winter. What a draw for a sportman show. Every "ham and egger" in the vicinity will pay to see the new world record. Books, Articles. Hell, I could make a fortune if it was me.

Mike P

08-05-2011, 02:49 PM

He's already under huge scrutiny. At the very least it needs to be looked at by state biologists, other witnesses, etc. .

Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:

SPECIES IDENTIFICATION

1. Photographs must be submitted by which positive identification of the exact species can be made. Read the rules on photographs at the end of this section, and refer to the Species Identification section in the World Record Game Fishes book to determine which features must show to identify your fish. Applications without photographs will not be accepted.

2. If there is the slightest doubt that the fish cannot be properly identified from the photographs and other data submitted, the fish should be examined by an ichthyologist or qualified fishery biologist before a record application is submitted to IGFA. The scientist’s signature and title (or qualifications) should appear on the IGFA application form or on a separate document confirming the identification of the species.

PaulS

08-05-2011, 03:01 PM

I can handle a world record fish and a $1,000,000 check.

chefchris401

08-05-2011, 03:15 PM

why are all his fish red??

Ive caught fish and cleaned them 12 to 16 hours later and they were never that discolored. of course there not super cows either.

is it just because the size of the fish? not iced right?

if this guy caught one 60 lber yearlier in the year then he should know how to properly ice a fish, one would think. :huh:

JackK

08-05-2011, 03:17 PM

Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:

Sorry, I didn't mean that it should be looked at to qualify for the record- I just meant that he should have it looked at to silence any critics about it's weight. If there's nothing to worry about, what's the problem?

Only issue I could see was if he was planning on getting it mounted (assuming he is) the taxidermist might want it round and untouched. But I would think that as long as accurate measurements are taken, a small incision in the fish wouldn't subtract from the quality of the eventual mount.

Plus, the scales, otoliths, DNA etc would probably be pretty useful (or at the least interesting) to state biologists. There's quite a bit that could be learned from this fish- shame to let that go to waste. Goes for the BI 77 pounder as well.

rizzo

08-05-2011, 03:20 PM

Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:.

If that is true, it further proves the record process is weak at best and the IGFA is a bunch of jokers in a world of make believe. Like the Katy Perry video for california gurls! If you want to get caught up in the game of records at least put some legit science behind it with a credible game plan.

Another scenario: - if I kept a fish in the freezer my buddy gill netted 2 months ago, what would it look like when its defrosted?

I hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am :jump1:

Nebe

08-05-2011, 03:26 PM

I call BS on the panic attack. He's probably got the fish in the MRI right now scanning it for lead. Ha!
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JohnnySaxatilis

08-05-2011, 03:26 PM

Wonder what Lev is thinking right now.

lev woldyka of menemsha mv?

The famous jelly belly nelly scandal!!!?????

vineyardblues

08-05-2011, 03:28 PM

This guy has a lot of top fish in OTW over the years and now I recognize him from last year (he had a 57) and has a few 50s this year.

He is one of the elite anglers for certain.

I can understand not wanting to go though the IGFA process, though not sure I would make the same determination. Hope I have to figure that dilema ;)

Like John states above this guy CAN FISH !!!!

Answer this question pls as I have never played in the OTW contest , do they open the fish up ?

I have played in the Marthas Vineyard derby for years , and my answer is yes

Thanks in advance

Mike P

08-05-2011, 03:38 PM

If that is true, it further proves the record process is weak at best and the IGFA is a bunch of jokers in a world of make believe. Like the Katy Perry video for california gurls! If you want to get caught up in the game of records at least put some legit science behind it with a credible game plan.

Another scenario: - if I kept a fish in the freezer my buddy gill netted 2 months ago, what would it look like when its defrosted?

I hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am :jump1:

I'm thinking that if you caught the fish in Mass, you could grow to old age waiting for an EPO or someone from the state to come down and verify what species of fish that it is. :rotf2:

Bottom line--there's only one fish in the North Atlantic that looks like a striped bass, and that grows to 80 pounds, and that's a striped bass. There's no need for anyone to examine it to verify that it's a striped bass. As far as the rest of it goes, the weighmaster has to attest to it, the town official has to attest to the fact of the scale's certification, and at least one witness has to attest to the weighing besides the weighmaster. How much verification does anyone want? At the end of the day, you're certifying a fishing record, nothing more. It's not a big deal to about 95% of the world's population.

rizzo

08-05-2011, 03:40 PM

Like John states above this guy CAN FISH !!!!

Answer this question pls as I have never played in the OTW contest , do they open the fish up ?

I have played in the Marthas Vineyard derby for years , and my answer is yes

Thanks in advance

No, therefore you can stuff fish and make yourself look like an accomplished angler.

For the record, I'm not attacked anyone in particular, I hope Greg is getting the fish MRI'd and medically examined and DNA stuff to prove himself right. Just trying to raise overall awareness of all those bright eyed innocent people out there wanting to believe everything they hear without questioning it.

Final scenario: bruins win the stanley cup. no celebration in front of the crowds, no parade in boston. all that hardwork for what? I guess a true sportsman doesnt need anyones approval except his own.

Mike P

08-05-2011, 03:42 PM

Answer this question pls as I have never played in the OTW contest , do they open the fish up ?

Thanks in advance

No. There are probably at least 50, maybe closer to 100, OTW weigh stations, and as far as I know, none of them would have the slightest interest in opening a fish. They're local bait and tackle shops trying to make a living, and their time is pretty valuable to them. They weigh the fish, have the angler sign the slip, and send the slips in once or twice a week, depending on the shop. There's no one central OTW operated weigh station, like there is for the MV Derby. The OTW runs from Maine to NJ.

rizzo

08-05-2011, 03:47 PM

I'm thinking that if you caught the fish in Mass, you could grow to old age waiting for an EPO or someone from the state to come down and verify what species of fish that it is. :rotf2:

Bottom line--there's only one fish in the North Atlantic that looks like a striped bass, and that grows to 80 pounds, and that's a striped bass. There's no need for anyone to examine it to verify that it's a striped bass. As far as the rest of it goes, the weighmaster has to attest to it, the town official has to attest to the fact of the scale's certification, and at least one witness has to attest to the weighing besides the weighmaster. How much verification does anyone want? At the end of the day, you're certifying a fishing record, nothing more. It's not a big deal to about 95% of the world's population.

I know, I'm having fun with it too. I don't know Greg at all, maybe hes sitting in front of the CPU laughing at us all too.

If i caught the world record, not many in my life would really care. Probably wouldnt even get a beer bought for me...

vineyardblues

08-05-2011, 03:49 PM

Dam , that fish would have been huge in late Oct off The vineyard :)

FishermanTim

08-05-2011, 03:59 PM

I can't figure why he wouldn't want the WR recognition?
Endorsements and "guest spots" on other sports shows?
To be considered a TRUE expert, no questions asked?

If he wants to pass on that, it's his choice.

BUT.....if he is submitting the fish in the Striper Cup, I would fully expect someone from OTW to examine the fish for any signs of cheating.

I would expect that from any derby where big prizes are involved.

Bottom line: Until there is ANY concrete reason to think otherwise.......CONGRATULATIONS ON A GREAT CATCH!!!!!

Rob Rockcrawler

08-05-2011, 04:03 PM

I cant believe he didnt release it. :)

likwid

08-05-2011, 04:07 PM

If you want stories about absolutely gigantic stripers, find someone who knows about the fish traps between the Gurnet and High Pine Ledge.

Mike P? You heard about those?

:D

westhavendave

08-05-2011, 04:26 PM

This catch is already becoming the stuff of legend.

In the age of the internet, maybe he has some advice to hold back a bit and let the drama build, make it even more of a story. Then reap the payday.

Of course I could be 100% wrong and he is just a quiet guy who does not want the attention.

Either way, hell of a catch

Stripersurg

08-05-2011, 04:50 PM

Yep, a big congrats go out to the angler.

agsurfr

08-05-2011, 04:55 PM

Wow! Makes my PB look like a @^&*#^$ pollywog.

Nice August fish. Congratulations Greg.

Way to go with the Sox shirt

JohnR

08-05-2011, 04:58 PM

Way to go with the Sox shirt

Bet the Yankee fans are calling him everything in the book :devil2:

agsurfr

08-05-2011, 05:01 PM

Bet the Yankee fans are calling him everything in the book :devil2:

Really, couldn't be better.

eastendlu

08-05-2011, 05:31 PM

The fish is real the shirt was photoshoped:rotf2: Congrats to the fisherman on that great big slob.

Mike P

08-05-2011, 05:41 PM

If you want stories about absolutely gigantic stripers, find someone who knows about the fish traps between the Gurnet and High Pine Ledge.

Mike P? You heard about those?

:D

No, but I did read Bassdozer's article about the "Ghost Fish" of the Block. It was first posted on WMI back in our storied youth, and then on SOL, and it's still up on the Dozer's web site.

His theory is that the "ghost fish" are a pelagic sub-species of bass, that live primarily offshore, and that their body shapes are adapted to life offshore, where they spend most of their lives. But, he also theorized that these fish do come inshore chasing bait from time to time, and that these were the huge fish that were caught around the Block back in the 80s. Tim Coleman got two fish over 60 from the BI surf back then.

This could be one of his "ghost fish" that made one of those rare inshore visits.

http://www.bassdozer.com/articles/surf_ghost_fish.shtml

JohnR

08-05-2011, 05:56 PM

Grapenuts

08-05-2011, 06:07 PM

can;t fool me....farm raised....I wonder how much one scale would go for on ebay?

ivanputski

08-05-2011, 06:24 PM

To everyone shedding tears about not letting it go to swim another day, thats about all this geriatric fish has left of its life! It lived a full life.. you want to cry tears, search the boards for guys that take 30" fish... they have a good 20 years to live yet.

As for the catch... congrats. If it were me, I already have such an airtight concrete game plan of what I will do I would be on a box of wheaties by noon

Mike P

08-05-2011, 06:24 PM

can;t fool me....farm raised....I wonder how much one scale would go for on ebay?

One of the SOL guys paid over $300 for Al McReynolds' greenie 710 that he caught the existing record on. :biglaugh:

If this guy does decide to go after the record, that reel is just about the world's most expensive paperweight now. :D

Big Dave

08-05-2011, 06:36 PM

Well considering those fish swim in schools and larger fish hang in pairs. I think every person that can fish, float, sink, or swim should hit the CT end of the sound. Already saw a hundred buggies leaving the cape.

niko

08-05-2011, 06:41 PM

i hope the guy is an avid fisherman - congrats to him on a truely amazing catch

Mike P

08-05-2011, 06:44 PM

i hope the guy is an avid fisherman - congrats to him on a truely amazing catch

Uh, yeah. The guy entered 3 fish over 60 pounds into the Striper Cup last year, and before this fish, he had a 58 and a 61 on the board for this year.

I think he just might be an avid fisherman. ;)

slow eddie

08-05-2011, 06:49 PM

an amazing catch. surely the fish of a lifetime.
i do wish the man well considering the b.s.he's going to have to deal with.

niko

08-05-2011, 06:57 PM

Uh, yeah. The guy entered 3 fish over 60 pounds into the Striper Cup last year, and before this fish, he had a 58 and a 61 on the board for this year.

I think he just might be an avid fisherman. ;)

all the better - he deserves that monster. and i could give a crap about the striper cup

Mike P

08-05-2011, 06:58 PM

all the better - he deserves that monster. and i could give a crap about the striper cup

Me too, but he apparently does. ;)

niko

08-05-2011, 07:00 PM

for catching that thing they should give him all the prizes :)

bart

08-05-2011, 07:03 PM

It's a little strange to me that he wouldn't want to pursue a WR...

but the guy obviously knows how to catch large. I wish him the best and congrats on the fish of a lifetime...

TheSpecialist

08-05-2011, 07:55 PM

:love:Oh, for crissakes, it was weighed on a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing certified scale. :doh:

You guys #^&#^&#^&#^&ing kill me with all of this nonsense. :hs:

likwid

08-05-2011, 07:56 PM

No, but I did read Bassdozer's article about the "Ghost Fish" of the Block. It was first posted on WMI back in our storied youth, and then on SOL, and it's still up on the Dozer's web site.

His theory is that the "ghost fish" are a pelagic sub-species of bass, that live primarily offshore, and that their body shapes are adapted to life offshore, where they spend most of their lives. But, he also theorized that these fish do come inshore chasing bait from time to time, and that these were the huge fish that were caught around the Block back in the 80s. Tim Coleman got two fish over 60 from the BI surf back then.

This could be one of his "ghost fish" that made one of those rare inshore visits.

Ghost Fish! The Stuff of Dreams...That Came True Once (http://www.bassdozer.com/articles/surf_ghost_fish.shtml)

When my dad was a kid there were fish traps over by the Gurnet. (50's early 60's)
Fish this big and bigger were not uncommon.

He said there were fish that came out of there that made his 55-60 look tiny.

Every once in a while the giants would crash the fish traps looking for a free meal. :eek:

Also at the Amagansett Marine Museum (LI) there are some pictures of beach seined fish that are absolutely gigantic from the early days. (BUUUUBBIES)

WoodyCT

08-05-2011, 08:12 PM

This guy is doing a number on the brood stock.
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nightfighter

08-05-2011, 08:12 PM

Congrats to Greg. Great accomplishment. The man has a track record of finding big fish. I have no reason to doubt this one. Hope he is able to cash in and find happiness in having caught the catch of our lifetimes....

iamskippy

08-05-2011, 08:19 PM

I heard OD was on his way to CT as we speak!

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Pete F.

08-05-2011, 08:23 PM

Congratulations

Sea Dangles

08-05-2011, 08:43 PM

Greg fishes out of a tin boat in CT.Fish was weighed in with many there to witness. Talk about red gills are silly, if you have fished in the Back Eddy tournament the last two years you would know what a freezer burned fish looks like.Apparently Greg,who is a really big person,has not decided to pursue a world record and yes, he had some type of panic attack and left his own party with the fish in tow.I think,after reading of McReynolds travails, that he made a good decision.However,gone are endorsement deals,boats and any other freebies he would certainly garner for his considerable efforts.I know if I caught a World Record fish or even an IGFA class record it would be on a product with benefits,not a live eel.Welcome to tournament fishing...and the microscope that surrounds worthy accomplishments.

Ryan560

08-05-2011, 08:52 PM

Congrats Greg wish ya the best!
I can't imagine catching a fish of that magnitude. That bass is probably as old as me give or take a couple of years...

stripermaineiac

08-05-2011, 09:17 PM

Sweet fish. Hope all you jealous anglers out there tryin to crap on it keep gettin crapped on by the fish gods and keep catching those giant schoolies you exagerate with photo shop to make them look legitamit. LOL Me I'll just plain drool all over myself with jealousy an keep tryin to beat 60 or another fish over 50 on another one of my plugs.Damn but thats one sweet fish.

flyvice11787

08-05-2011, 10:39 PM

First off, congrats to the angler. Anything in the area of the record deserves recognition.

why are all his fish red??

Ive caught fish and cleaned them 12 to 16 hours later and they were never that discolored. of course there not super cows either.

is it just because the size of the fish? not iced right?

if this guy caught one 60 lber yearlier in the year then he should know how to properly ice a fish, one would think. :huh:

Who knows, Chris, maybe the guy jus doesn't know how to handle fish. Looks like the picture was taken of the side that was laying down in the cooler. He may have just tossed it in and put bags of ice on top of it. The side that isn't red from the blood pooling is all lumpy from the ice.
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BasicPatrick

08-06-2011, 12:15 AM

The guy has a clue....I'd do the same...hunker down and think about value exploitation and promotion...the quietuses me think this fella is smart...CT fish in august...ever here of a guy named Sherwood Lincoln?
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Backbeach Jake

08-06-2011, 05:16 AM

Congratulations. You shoulda claimed the record.
It's a crying shame that there are so many jealous pricks out there who have to ruin what others have done because they can't do it themselves.

Clammer

08-06-2011, 05:47 AM

BB
AMEN >>>>>>>>>>:buds:

Backbeach Jake

08-06-2011, 05:47 AM

LMAO .. it aint over until I stop fishin'.. .. that's the beauty of striper fishing... no fish is too big for the imagination... lest we forget the pair of 100lb ( aleged) fish caught in a sein net in south ( or north, I forget) Carolina.. the a hellof a fish.. I'd like to shake the guy's hand.. he deserves that much.

Me, too.
You're known for having a knack at catching large fish, how much BS comes your way? Not realizing that they ruin the experience for themselves as well.
I'm glad and proud to have shaken you're hand , Joe.

cheferson

08-06-2011, 07:14 AM

He is having the fish certified by the IGFA for the world record . He said

There’s another rumor he can put to rest: Reports that Myerson won’t enter the fish as a world record? Bunk, he says.

“I’d be an ass if I didn’t, wouldn’t I?” Yet at the same time, he says, “I don’t care about the world record. I broke my all-time record, and that’s what really matters to me.

UserRemoved

08-06-2011, 07:20 AM

Nice
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Duke41

08-06-2011, 07:56 AM

Wow what a fish. This thread is just as interesting covers the range of human emotions from admiration to flat out envy and resentment. A mini social experiment.. Great fish that guys is a stud. Of course he went to URI all the best fisherman come from there. Class of 83. lol

stripermaineiac

08-06-2011, 08:17 AM

LOL those that can't always resent those that due. It's why the ankle biters association is so big in our society.I laugh at them and tell them their jealousy flatters me. They don't realize that to those if us that do and can they don't mean anything to us and we laugh at their resentment.They;re sad people that make their own problems we just keep doing.Nice to see a great fish landed by a good fisherman instead of someone that won't appreciate what it really means.

Thumper

08-06-2011, 08:23 AM

Congrats to Greg that dude is a fishing machine!!
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Redsoxticket

08-06-2011, 08:28 AM

Hopefully he has a valid fishing license
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MAKAI

08-06-2011, 09:06 AM

I want one of those.
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Plum Crazy

08-06-2011, 09:11 AM

BRAVO!:buds:

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 09:38 AM

Here is a shot from FS site

Sea of Atlas

08-06-2011, 09:45 AM

Congratulations to the angler, that is a true feat! Gaining fame this fast has to make your head spin. Can't wait to read the story.

Steve K

08-06-2011, 10:05 AM

What a fish! Hope he gets the record. Congrats to him
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rizzo

08-06-2011, 10:18 AM

What does that tape say - 50"?

piemma

08-06-2011, 10:26 AM

I was at a marina (not mine) this morning and I heard some of the most outrageous stories about this fish.Like:
All beat up. Was really caught by a dragger. Full of rebar and lead.

Personally, I believe it's the real deal and the guy has a history of big fish so why would he lie?

WoodyCT

08-06-2011, 10:38 AM

Who woulda thunk it- a 50" 82lb. striper.

I always figured a bass that heavy would go 65"+ .
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BigFish

08-06-2011, 10:42 AM

Note to self: When I catch the new world record striper......let it go as fast as I can and tell no one.:uhuh:

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 10:53 AM

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 10:56 AM

I've caught plenty of 20lb fish that were all beat up, these fish ply there trade in the rocks you know..

WoodyCT

08-06-2011, 11:15 AM

vanstaal

08-06-2011, 11:24 AM

:rotf2:

Bill L

08-06-2011, 11:25 AM

There is more information on the Field and Stream site, good story, hats off to the angler
http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/bass-fishing/where-fish-bass/2011/08/new-pending-world-record-striped-bass

Looks like it will be submitted too: "There’s another rumor he can put to rest: Reports that Myerson won’t enter the fish as a world record? Bunk, he says. “I’d be an ass if I didn’t, wouldn’t I?”

Some poor bastard broke this fish off too, there was a hook and leader in its jaws :smash:

UserRemoved1

08-06-2011, 11:28 AM

49" and 82 lbs?? That don't make sense.

And they call it a 54" striper in the article??

That's a RHM fish

iamskippy

08-06-2011, 11:32 AM

49" and 82 lbs?? That don't make sense.

either does being 5'8" and 300 pounds but its possible. :rotf2:

spence

08-06-2011, 11:38 AM

Personally, I believe it's the real deal and the guy has a history of big fish so why would he lie?
Yea, Field and Stream article says he's caught 3 60's in the past year.

-spence

spence

08-06-2011, 11:39 AM

either does being 5'8" and 300 pounds but its possible. :rotf2:

Wow, this thread really is bringing out the worst in people :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

-spence

iamskippy

08-06-2011, 11:46 AM

the fish wa actualy 54" according the FnS article (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/bass-fishing/where-fish-bass/2011/08/new-pending-world-record-striped-bass). its a good read, with a nice little play by play.

iamskippy

08-06-2011, 11:46 AM

Wow, this thread really is bringing out the worst in people :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

-spence

Spence i was actually referring to myself :rotf2:

numbskull

08-06-2011, 11:57 AM

The Field and Stream article is quite interesting. Clearly the record fish was well earned. That is nice to see.

fishbones

08-06-2011, 12:01 PM

Larry-You wouldn't have to do that. You are a known entity whose credibility is above reproach.

When such a prized record falls guys will always cast a suspicious eye, especially when the details are as ... Interesting ...as they are here: 1) The guy won't seek the IGFA record, 2) The fish is short for its weight, 3) The fish is entered in, and will likely win, a major contest, 4) Said contest does not require the fish be cut open to see if it has been loaded, 5) The fish was caught in Connecticut, 6) By a relative unknown...

Being a skeptic does not make one a jealous a$$hole as some would like to believe.
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1) Looks like he is submitting it for the record.

2) How long are all the other 81+ pound fish you've seen?

5) There are plenty of very big fish caught in CT during the summer.

6) The guy has a bunch of 50 pound plus fish to his credit. I'd say he's pretty well known to a lot of striper fishermen.
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Clogston29

08-06-2011, 12:04 PM

Mike P

08-06-2011, 12:08 PM

Yea, Field and Stream article says he's caught 3 60's in the past year.

-spence

Actually, it was four 60s and a 58. And those are just the fish he entered in the Cup. You're only allowed to have your 3 best fish stay on the board. He might have caught others that he either released, or that were entered and displaced. Also, according to the F&S article, he released one that he estimated to be well over 70 a few years back.

F&S appears to have talked to the guy personally (and probably paid for the rights to an "exclusive"), whereas OTW got their info yesterday from a CT beat writer who talked to other "credible sources" who may not have been all that credible. So, I put more stock in today's F&S article. The guy did go to the hospital, that's true, but it wasn't for a panic attack. He apparently took a fall out on the water and hurt his ribs, and went to have them checked out. This is from his own mouth. He left a couple of mob scenes to have a chance to catch his breath. He already stated what tackle he used--a heavy 6-1/2' St Croix tuna rod, a Quantum Cabo reel, and 50# Berkley Gorilla Braid. I fully expect him to submit the paperwork, based on his statement that "he'd be an ass" if he didn't. He didn't have to do that yesterday, and he doesn't have to do that today, or tomorrow or for almost another month. There's nothing more that he has to do.

If the guy fishes from a tin boat, he caught the fish inshore. He's not running out to federal waters south of the Block to poach in the EEZ in a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing tin boat. The redness on the fish is pretty normal. The fish lays in a box, and the blood pools in the low points of the body where it comes into contact with the box. It's what's called post-mortem lividity, and it's perfectly normal---it's not net rash. I have quite a few pictures of bass less than half that size with the same redness. There's nothing suspicious in my mind at this point. OTW did everyone an extreme dis-service yesterday by spreading some wild rumors, IMO.

As far as the 54" thing goes---anyone want to take a stab at the length of McReynolds' fish? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up--it was 53-1/2" long, but it had something like a 35" girth.

animal

08-06-2011, 12:18 PM

Well said,Mike.Congrats to the angler!

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 12:36 PM

JohnR

08-06-2011, 12:39 PM

I'm happy for the guy and happy it fell too a real fisherman. I really thought the record would end up going to some guy out drinking beers who decided to throw out a chunk and see what happened - "johny grab the rod" scenario. This guys resume speaks for itself. Would like to see fish examined though, if nothing else to eliminate rumors.
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:btu:

Actually, it was four 60s and a 58. And those are just the fish he entered in the Cup. You're only allowed to have your 3 best fish stay on the board. He might have caught others that he either released, or that were entered and displaced. Also, according to the F&S article, he released one that he estimated to be well over 70 a few years back.

F&S appears to have talked to the guy personally (and probably paid for the rights to an "exclusive"), whereas OTW got their info yesterday from a CT beat writer who talked to other "credible sources" who may not have been all that credible. So, I put more stock in today's F&S article. The guy did go to the hospital, that's true, but it wasn't for a panic attack. He apparently took a fall out on the water and hurt his ribs, and went to have them checked out. This is from his own mouth. He left a couple of mob scenes to have a chance to catch his breath. He already stated what tackle he used--a heavy 6-1/2' St Croix tuna rod, a Quantum Cabo reel, and 50# Berkley Gorilla Braid. I fully expect him to submit the paperwork, based on his statement that "he'd be an ass" if he didn't. He didn't have to do that yesterday, and he doesn't have to do that today, or tomorrow or for almost another month. There's nothing more that he has to do.

If the guy fishes from a tin boat, he caught the fish inshore. He's not running out to federal waters south of the Block to poach in the EEZ in a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing tin boat. The redness on the fish is pretty normal. The fish lays in a box, and the blood pools in the low points of the body where it comes into contact with the box. It's what's called post-mortem lividity, and it's perfectly normal---it's not net rash. I have quite a few pictures of bass less than half that size with the same redness. There's nothing suspicious in my mind at this point. OTW did everyone an extreme dis-service yesterday by spreading some wild rumors, IMO.

As far as the 54" thing goes---anyone want to take a stab at the length of McReynolds' fish? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up--it was 53-1/2" long, but it had something like a 35" girth.

:btu:

Unless we hear otherwise from legit sources (which I doubt) - not minor pi$$ing contests on the innernets - lets give this guy some credit and props.

He has a history of big catches, he is clearly highly skilled, he knows where and how, and is obviously one of those that have 6th bass sense that people like me only dream of having :tooth:

Read the F&S article: Exclusive Photos: New Pending World Record Striped Bass! | Field & Stream (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/bass-fishing/where-fish-bass/2011/08/new-pending-world-record-striped-bass?)

Ryan560

08-06-2011, 12:43 PM

man looks like someone else could've had this same fish if they didn't get broken off. This bass had 6' of leader and a hook in her from a recent hookup according to the F&S article. What a epic fish and a great story!

westhavendave

08-06-2011, 12:55 PM

I am willing to bet that the field and stream article was done over the phone. Who took the pics???? Just look at the article, they have GM with what 4-5 different outfits. Im sorry, but no way is a 49-50 inch fish going to be 81.88lbs, if it was it would be wide all the way like a tuna, solid not like that. I spoke with Jim Fee yesterday while he was on the way down to see the fish and havent heard from him since. Why all the quietness. I just dont understand why create controversey? WHO SAW The fish? Leave the fish at a legit tackle shop for a day, Let whoever wants to inspect the fish, rewiegh on a certified scale, do length to girth measurements. Dispell all rumors! Why create problems for yourself? Alot of guys on this board sell fish, Ive had hundreds of pounds of fish with little or no ice for hours in mid summer off gayhead / nomans during the day and they dont look like some of his fish. Why do all the pics of fish look worse than any fish Ive seen in a supermarket??? If he never wanted the publicity then why even wiegh the fish in???
I wish I submitted this 65" fish I got mounted, i just didnt want the publicity...

If you are not joking, you are seriously delusional. I don't think Field and Stream would put the magazines reputation on the line by not vetting the veracity of the anglers claim, before they did the article. Go kill some more bass.:wall:

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 01:04 PM

If you are not joking, you are seriously delusional. I don't think Field and Stream would put the magazines reputation on the line by not vetting the veracity of the anglers claim, before they did the article. Go kill some more bass.:wall:

I did an article for field and stream this year, they wrote what I said...

I, nor a single person I know would even think of questioning Pete Vican's state record 77LBer. The man did it legit 100 percent like anybody I spoke with did. Yes we all wish we caught a slob like that and every single person I know was happy for him.
Guess speaking with good friends that fish the same water as GM have seen his previous fish just adds to suspicion... Why all the controversy on GM??? Every Single person I spoke with thinks this is BS...

Slipknot

08-06-2011, 01:37 PM

I am willing to bet that the field and stream article was done over the phone. Who took the pics???? Just look at the article, they have GM with what 4-5 different outfits. Im sorry, but no way is a 49-50 inch fish going to be 81.88lbs, if it was it would be wide all the way like a tuna, solid not like that. I spoke with Jim Fee yesterday while he was on the way down to see the fish and havent heard from him since. Why all the quietness. I just dont understand why create controversey? WHO SAW The fish? Leave the fish at a legit tackle shop for a day, Let whoever wants to inspect the fish, rewiegh on a certified scale, do length to girth measurements. Dispell all rumors! Why create problems for yourself? Alot of guys on this board sell fish, Ive had hundreds of pounds of fish with little or no ice for hours in mid summer off gayhead / nomans during the day and they dont look like some of his fish. Why do all the pics of fish look worse than any fish Ive seen in a supermarket??? If he never wanted the publicity then why even wiegh the fish in???
I wish I submitted this 65" fish I got mounted, i just didnt want the publicity...

I did an article for field and stream this year, they wrote what I said...

I, nor a single person I know would even think of questioning Pete Vican's state record 77LBer. The man did it legit 100 percent like anybody I spoke with did. Yes we all wish we caught a slob like that and every single person I know was happy for him.
Guess speaking with good friends that fish the same water as GM have seen his previous fish just adds to suspicion... Why all the controversy on GM??? Every Single person I spoke with thinks this is BS...

Do you think it is BS also?

Nice catch there on that fish.

not everybody is a pro
and also not everyone takes photos that make fish look large

RIROCKHOUND

08-06-2011, 01:49 PM

Ive had hundreds of pounds of fish with little or no ice for hours in mid summer off gayhead / nomans during the day

glad I don't buy bass :yak5:

rizzo

08-06-2011, 02:30 PM

This is the America of today, people believe everything written in magazines and on the internet. Theres discussion how this fish is a super giant, torpedo head, offshore super breed and its only 49"? Oh 54" in the article? Who are you gonna believe? Its all over the top. Oh the guy caught multiple 60s, okay. There was incidents last year about his catches too. With all this going on, he finally had his chance to set everything straight, in person with that fish. Its not about jealousy, its verifying and documenting the catch. In the year 2011 we should be able to better on keeping track of it all.

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 02:30 PM

glad I don't buy bass :yak5:

I comm fished in mexico where we spent all day out baking in the sun and through fish on the deck where they sat in that hot sun all day and the fish looked better. How many people fished in the caribean? they ice the fish? they troll em and box em and then we eat cerviche later... Those fish in the markets, especially those from the south are several days or weeks old but we buy em and eat em...

Stripersurg

08-06-2011, 02:31 PM

There will always be skeptics in this world, that's just the way it is. Like others have said, the man has a track record of catching fish, some very big ones as well, this isn't his first Rodeo.
As to why he didn't do certain things a certain way, that's irrelevant.
We need to give our fellow fisherman support, and a pat on the back, for achieving what the vast majority of us will never be able to do.
If, and it's a big IF, something was to come of this catch that isn't legal, or suspicious, it will all come out eventually.
For now, though, my hat's off to the guy.

rizzo

08-06-2011, 02:38 PM

So did anyone else notice in the field and stream photo gallery - Pic of fish that Ken posted here showing it is 49" with the tape laid flat on the ground. Another picture on field and stream showing the tape at 54" on the tail - showing the tail only. So the measurement is clearly wrong by 5"!!!!

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 02:39 PM

Do you think it is BS also?

Nice catch there on that fish.

not everybody is a pro
and also not everyone takes photos that make fish look large

After seeing the pics on FS I dont believe it for a sec. Im entitled to my opinion and that fish is a big fish, 50-55lbs tops.... Ill give that. EVERYBODY I know who consistantly catch big fish dont believe it. We all want the record to be broken, would be awesome to see! There is no need for photagraphy tricks, etc... There are pictures on FS where the fish is laid out or held against the body where I say no way.... Most guys I know throw a fish on the deck and can guess the wieght, coming within a pound or of the actual wieght. Im guessing alot of guys who thing this fish is 81lbs have not seen many bass and never a 40, 50 or 60 for that matter. Agian just my opinion...

Remember all the controversey on the WR Fluke?? Look, I had friends that saw AL Mcreynolds fish, it was laid out at the tackle shop for all to see... There was no question the size of that fish, none.. Nobody wants to see legitamate record holders cheated, I think thats what most feel....

I guess I am also privy to more info which I cannot post on here... Look back at the posts and look who was the first to say that it was Greg Meyerson?

His actions have not been normal at all through this whole thing and I bet nobody here would have acted the same...

PaulS

08-06-2011, 03:10 PM

I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.

JohnR

08-06-2011, 03:40 PM

I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.

Sea story? Or no sheet?

You should describe the leader / hook to G.M. and see if it looks the same ;)

Saltheart

08-06-2011, 04:09 PM

I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.

Sea story? Or no sheet?

You should describe the leader / hook to G.M. and see if it looks the same ;)

Wouldn't that be something! :) To me , that would be a question worth asking Paul! :)

PaulS

08-06-2011, 04:12 PM

;):):wave:

WoodyCT

08-06-2011, 04:21 PM

Mike P

08-06-2011, 04:32 PM

After seeing the pics on FS I dont believe it for a sec. Im entitled to my opinion and that fish is a big fish, 50-55lbs tops.... Ill give that. EVERYBODY I know who consistantly catch big fish dont believe it. We all want the record to be broken, would be awesome to see! There is no need for photagraphy tricks, etc... There are pictures on FS where the fish is laid out or held against the body where I say no way.... Most guys I know throw a fish on the deck and can guess the wieght, coming within a pound or of the actual wieght. Im guessing alot of guys who thing this fish is 81lbs have not seen many bass and never a 40, 50 or 60 for that matter. Agian just my opinion...

Remember all the controversey on the WR Fluke?? Look, I had friends that saw AL Mcreynolds fish, it was laid out at the tackle shop for all to see... There was no question the size of that fish, none.. Nobody wants to see legitamate record holders cheated, I think thats what most feel....

I guess I am also privy to more info which I cannot post on here... Look back at the posts and look who was the first to say that it was Greg Meyerson?

His actions have not been normal at all through this whole thing and I bet nobody here would have acted the same...

I hope you realize that by these accusations, you're also accusing Jack Katzenbach, the owner of the weigh station, with being in cahoots with this guy in perpetrating this hoax, and possibly for attesting to all of his "questionable" fish. You're saying none of his fish, for which weigh slips were submitted in a major tournament, are legit, so you're saying that one or more weighmasters are committing fraud in cahoots with a cheating angler.

Those are pretty strong accusations, Kenny. I hope for your sake, and the sake of your reputation in the angling world, you're in a position to back them up with proof.

GattaFish

08-06-2011, 05:08 PM

Congrats on a nice fish.....

WR.. Just not feeling it.
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CowHunter

08-06-2011, 05:11 PM

Nebe

08-06-2011, 05:12 PM

Nebestadomous has spoken.
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Raider Ronnie

08-06-2011, 05:14 PM

It amazes me how catches of big fish can bring out the worst in people.
I've see it 1st hand by a few on this board who take the OTW striper cup way too serious, for what ? a stupid pin or a cup with bragging rights to say I'm better that you, who the #^&#^&#^&#^& cares..

Mike P

08-06-2011, 05:14 PM

A quick look at a few length - weight charts shows that, based on scientific studies and metrics, that a bass would need to 55" + to be in the 80lb. range.

49-54" bass = 39-73 lbs..

81.88 lbs. of something hung from that scale, and it would put all this speculation to bed if the fish were opened up for inspection.
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Actually, using the time honored seat of the pants estimator, length times girth squared dividied by 800, a 54" fish with a 35" girth would weigh........82.6875 pounds. ;)

I did this with the reported dimensions of McReynolds' fish, 53-1/2" length and 35" girth, and it comes out at...81.92 pounds.

rizzo

08-06-2011, 05:15 PM

I hope you realize that by these accusations, you're also accusing Jack Katzenbach, the owner of the weigh station, with being in cahoots with this guy in perpetrating this hoax, and possibly for attesting to all of his "questionable" fish. You're saying none of his fish, for which weigh slips were submitted in a major tournament, are legit, so you're saying that one or more weighmasters are committing fraud in cahoots with a cheating angler.

Those are pretty strong accusations, Kenny. I hope for your sake, and the sake of your reputation in the angling world, you're in a position to back them up with proof.

People regularly cheat in tournaments!!! Hows the weighmaster going to know if the fish has been stuffed or not unless they rip the fish apart. I wouldnt if I owned a tackleshop, as you have money to make. However, if your scale is certified, you get a reading and fill out the affidavit. From the weighmaster's point of view, what are you gonna do even if you suspect cheating?

You can't take the OTW tournament too seriously as it is a fish stuffers dream. Bring your fish in to a local tackle shop with a clueless employee and you can turn a 50" 38 pounder into a 50 lber pretty easily. We had threads last year about this. Good guys being accused of stuffing, cheated, blah blah. Lie detectors came up, but theyre not 100% dead on. I just like to see things straight up across the board and it gets old hearing about so and so cheating, when they really arent. A few bad ruins it for all. You can have your 10k prize.

In this case we're talking world record status, so I hope if the state of CT certifies it as a record, igfa or whoever, a state bioligist looks at it to confirm theres no tampering. I hope for greg's sake they are already undergoing these investigations to clear up the accusations of cheating. Theres no reason why this can't be accurately documented. IF the fish is not inspected there is not much credibility plain and simple. Really anyone could go in with a 50" fish (easy to come by) and get fancy stuffing it to make it the record - I'd like to see some proof to make this a little more credible.

WoodyCT

08-06-2011, 05:16 PM

Thanks Mike!

:-)

+1 Rizzo!
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rizzo

08-06-2011, 05:21 PM

Why is everyone doing the calc at 54"? Am I missing something or does the picture not show the length at 49", therefore, according to the "formula" makes it impossible to be 80 pounds unless the fish has the girth of a 55 gallon drum.

I dont think this brings out the worst in people, as a new record is good for publicity for striper fishing, if its a legit record!

Mike P

08-06-2011, 05:23 PM

I caught enough fish to know bs, Yeah never a 70 or 80, but that aint 80, ill bet my life on it common, are we insane here!!!!!!! you seriously believe it? I was out to dinner with my buddy who's 8 -11 year old kids that caught 40's looked at that fish and said it was bull#^&#^&#^&#^&... feel free to call me Mike 201 412-5783.. I dont have to hide behind the computer, he fed up by submitting those pics to FS it doesnt add up.. 49-50 inch no girth, no shoulders and its 81.88!!! 80 percent of the people on the barn are calling it BS, 100 percent of my friends are...

Kenny, I've seen pictures where it looks legit, and pictures where it looked 50-ish, depending on the camera angle and how it was held. All I know it that there are multiple reports of it being weighed on a certified scale in front of a lot of people. I don't know the guy. I don't know your friends, and I don't post on or read the bass barn. I know you catch a lot of fish every year, and I know that I've looked at pictures, called BS, and was proven wrong before. The bottom line for me is, some guy is putting his business reputation on the line by attesting to and submitting weigh slips for this guy, and with the prizes that are at stake in the Striper Cup, falsifying those could be a felony in many states, and would be one in Massachusetts. I have to think that a tackle shop owner would be very reluctant to do that for me, not matter how good a friend I was or how much coin I dropped in there every year.

I'll try to give you a call tonight after dinner. If not then, tomorrow afternoon.

Kierran

08-06-2011, 05:23 PM

F&S appears to have talked to the guy personally (and probably paid for the rights to an "exclusive"), whereas OTW got their info yesterday from a CT beat writer who talked to other "credible sources" who may not have been all that credible. So, I put more stock in today's F&S article......

That beat writer interviewed Greg before F&S and didn't have to pay for it:

Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 05:29 PM

Kenny, I've seen pictures where it looks legit, and pictures where it looked 50-ish, depending on the camera angle and how it was held. All I know it that there are multiple reports of it being weighed on a certified scale in front of a lot of people. I don't know the guy. I don't know your friends, and I don't post on or read the bass barn. I know you catch a lot of fish every year, and I know that I've looked at pictures, called BS, and was proven wrong before. The bottom line for me is, some guy is putting his business reputation on the line by attesting to and submitting weigh slips for this guy, and with the prizes that are at stake in the Striper Cup, falsifying those could be a felony in many states, and would be one in Massachusetts. I have to think that a tackle shop owner would be very reluctant to do that for me, not matter how good a friend I was or how much coin I dropped in there every year.

I'll try to give you a call tonight after dinner. If not then, tomorrow afternoon.

Mike, have you seen me argue a catch before, comon, have you seen one shot of a prestine looking fish from him? 49"-50" and 801.88lbs.. Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here? My ENTIRE TEAM WILL BOYCOTT the striper cup if they allow this fish and other teams as well! Let him take it to and IGFA Certified wieghmaster, lenght and girth measurements... Submit it to the IGFA and put the story to sleep.. all this drama is BS... Guess OJ was innocent, casey Anthony too...

BigFish

08-06-2011, 05:29 PM

I officially couldn't care less if its legit or not....and why do people get their panties in a bunch??? Envy???? Good for him on a great catch for cryin' out loud! That is all.

WoodyCT

08-06-2011, 05:39 PM

Envy ain't it Larry.

A burden of proof must be met before The Holy Grail can change hands.

Too many things seem askew with this fish for folks to accept a certified weight ALONE as the word of God.

Had the guy handled this better, ie more transparently, we would all be smooching his arse and patting his back.

For his sake I hope it is a 100% legitimate record, but he's got some proving to do before I can accept the record has fallen.

Luv ya Larry,

Jon
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Slipknot

08-06-2011, 05:50 PM

I did not see the fish in person and not sure if you did Ken or any of your friends, so all we have is witness accounts and photos I guess. I don't see anything bulging out of the belly or any suspicion of stuffing 20 to 30 pounds of whatever(baitfish,rocks,crabs,lead,ice etc.).

How do you know he has not or is going to open it up? Does he really have to anyway?
Glad I did not catch it, holy crap

Best thing I can say is go out and catch one bigger :D

"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"
Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.

Raider Ronnie

08-06-2011, 06:03 PM

I officially couldn't care less if its legit or not....and why do people get their panties in a bunch??? Envy???? Good for him on a great catch for cryin' out loud! That is all.

"Envy????"

Penis envy !

JohnR

08-06-2011, 06:10 PM

"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"
Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.

Agree with Slip. Why would Peter Vican feel cheated?

Mike P

08-06-2011, 06:10 PM

"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"

Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.

Looking at the leader board, if Peter could put up a fish of around 66 pounds, he could still take the Angler of the Year award. If he could do that, all he'd be "cheated" out of would be a free replica mount. I'm sure he's already sent his 77.40 out if he wanted a mount. ;)

Guy's caught two fish over 75 the last two seasons, so another 66 isn't all that far-fetched.

JohnR

08-06-2011, 06:17 PM

Questions regarding the image of the bass measuring at 51"

I took the image from F&S, enlarged it (correctly, resampling 110% several times) and to me, it appears as though the tape measure is not flat on the ground but lifted up a bit where held. That, coupled with the bottom left location where the snapshot was taken, would make the "51 inches" getting tossed around shorter than the actual length due to the perspective of the shot.

I'm 20 something years past my higher-math prime (pun?) so I don't have the mental capacity to crunch without disastrous effect, but I can and did simulate my theory scaled down a bit and confirm - good enough for me - that the fish is longer than 51"s.

Someone smarter than me please confirm this - or debunk it :tooth: - mathematically...

Re-sized image:

http://www.striped-bass.com/images/world-record/World-Record-Striped-Bass-record-4-enlarged.jpg

Raider Ronnie

08-06-2011, 06:18 PM

Looking at the leader board, if Peter could put up a fish of around 66 pounds, he could still take the Angler of the Year award. If he could do that, all he'd be "cheated" out of would be a free replica mount. I'm sure he's already sent his 77.40 out if he wanted a mount. ;)

Guy's caught two fish over 75 the last two seasons, so another 66 isn't all that far-fetched.

Is that what "angler of the year " gets you, a free replica mount ?
WOW !
:yak5:

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 06:22 PM

Well lets see if he gets it certified IGFA world record, I bet not!

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 06:25 PM

Mike P

08-06-2011, 06:25 PM

That beat writer interviewed Greg before F&S and didn't have to pay for it:

Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

Sorry, man. Whoever does their web page and Facebook updates did you a real dis-service yesterday. That's where this nonsense about a "panic attack" based on reports of "credible sources" started.

Mike P

08-06-2011, 06:30 PM

Is that what "angler of the year " gets you, a free replica mount ?
WOW !
:yak5:

No, it gets a bunch of tackle prizes and maybe some other stuff. Redlite would be able to tell you exactly what--he's won the shore side of it twice, too. I think the surf guy gets a Van Staal among other stuff. The free mount is of the biggest boat and shore bass weighed in. Sometimes, that person isn't the Angler of the Year.

The mounts aren't really that expensive. The company that does them had a booth last year and I think they were around $400 as a "show special".

Mike P

08-06-2011, 06:32 PM

You see the 2" in front of head? I mean common... Who would take a pic like this? would you?? Be honest John! The fish was never rewieghed on a certified scale! There is a reason 80 % of the people on some of the other forum polls think its BS!!!

I gotta run down for dinner, then I'll probably hit the Canal for awhile. I'll try to give you a call tomorrow, or at least I'll leave you my cell number on your voice mail if you're out on the water. I really don't want to get involved in this, but I'm a sucker for behind the scenes intrigue. :rotf2:

JohnR

08-06-2011, 06:48 PM

You see the 2" in front of head? I mean common... Who would take a pic like this? would you?? Be honest John! The fish was never rewieghed on a certified scale! There is a reason 80 % of the people on some of the other forum polls think its BS!!!

Angle - I am being honest. That photo does not represent 51 inches for me, or anything less than 51 inches. Using that photo as the claim for 51 inches doesn't wash with me. I have not seen anything concrete to debunk that this is not what it is claimed to be.

I see a lot of people trying to debunk it but I have not seen enough to to convince me this is not legit.

Nebe

08-06-2011, 06:51 PM

NEBESTAMOMUS HAS SPOKEN!!!:fishin:

UserRemoved1

08-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.

Questions regarding the image of the bass measuring at 51"

I took the image from F&S, enlarged it (correctly, resampling 110% several times) and to me, it appears as though the tape measure is not flat on the ground but lifted up a bit where held. That, coupled with the bottom left location where the snapshot was taken, would make the "51 inches" getting tossed around shorter than the actual length due to the perspective of the shot.

I'm 20 something years past my higher-math prime (pun?) so I don't have the mental capacity to crunch without disastrous effect, but I can and did simulate my theory scaled down a bit and confirm - good enough for me - that the fish is longer than 51"s.

Someone smarter than me please confirm this - or debunk it :tooth: - mathematically...

Re-sized image:

http://www.striped-bass.com/images/world-record/World-Record-Striped-Bass-record-4-enlarged.jpg

JohnR

08-06-2011, 07:03 PM

Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.

Tape is not flat on the ground. The zero is, the hand is not. It is below the dorsal in front and several inches above the tail.

More reading: Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

UserRemoved1

08-06-2011, 07:06 PM

Didn't say the tape was flat I said it was straight. It's VERY close to being flat on the ground though...and not enough error to make this a 54" fish. If you can prove the Pythagorean theorem wrong your a better man than me. There couldn't possibly be enough parallax in that picture to make up for 3-4" If the tape was further away sure. Not from what I see. Just saying. Don't really care one way or another. Just sorry to see another fish dead for a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing tournament.

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 07:10 PM

What does that tape say - 50"?

That tape isn't all the way on the ground yet.

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 07:13 PM

Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.

No way that tape in the picture is flat to the ground. It was shot either as he was putting it down or lifting it up.

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 07:16 PM

That tape isn't all the way on the ground yet.

But why on earth would anybody take a pic this way?????? Common

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 07:19 PM

But why on earth would anybody take a pic this way?????? Common

Rookie photog?

If you guys won't buy the F&S story then how about one by On The Water who actually went there in person, inspected and photographed the fish. Would that be enough?

Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

TheSpecialist

08-06-2011, 07:24 PM

People regularly cheat in tournaments!!! Hows the weighmaster going to know if the fish has been stuffed or not unless they rip the fish apart. I wouldnt if I owned a tackleshop, as you have money to make. However, if your scale is certified, you get a reading and fill out the affidavit. From the weighmaster's point of view, what are you gonna do even if you suspect cheating?

You can't take the OTW tournament too seriously as it is a fish stuffers dream. Bring your fish in to a local tackle shop with a clueless employee and you can turn a 50" 38 pounder into a 50 lber pretty easily. We had threads last year about this. Good guys being accused of stuffing, cheated, blah blah. Lie detectors came up, but theyre not 100% dead on. I just like to see things straight up across the board and it gets old hearing about so and so cheating, when they really arent. A few bad ruins it for all. You can have your 10k prize.

In this case we're talking world record status, so I hope if the state of CT certifies it as a record, igfa or whoever, a state bioligist looks at it to confirm theres no tampering. I hope for greg's sake they are already undergoing these investigations to clear up the accusations of cheating. Theres no reason why this can't be accurately documented. IF the fish is not inspected there is not much credibility plain and simple. Really anyone could go in with a 50" fish (easy to come by) and get fancy stuffing it to make it the record - I'd like to see some proof to make this a little more credible.

Seriously how much extra weight will you get by stuffing a fish? A few lbs. Cause you sure as hell are not stretching his length. :smash:

rizzo

08-06-2011, 07:24 PM

The whole thing is an optical illusion. I heard the scale was recertified and the fish weighs 89.18 pounds now. IGFA world record and new line class record! :huh:

CowHunter

08-06-2011, 07:26 PM

Rookie photog?

If you guys won't buy the F&S story then how about one by On The Water who actually went there in person, inspected and photographed the fish. Would that be enough?

Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

Ill bet anything fish was not rewieghed... Why not certify it??? Even at 50-51 in that fish does not have the body for that wieght, christ, how many 50-53 inch fish ive seen?!?!?!?!?!

rizzo

08-06-2011, 07:42 PM

Seriously how much extra weight will you get by stuffing a fish? A few lbs. Cause you sure as hell are not stretching his length. :smash:

5 pounds of lead doesnt take up that much room. Look at a 25 pound weight lifting plate, thats cast iron and doesnt take up too much room. Rebar is pretty heavy too. I'm saying the fish should be completely gutted, it wouldnt effect the lovely skin mount he'll get so theres no excuses. If you weigh it at 81 pounds, gut the fish and inspect it, and find nothing in the fish, its hard to argue its not the record. Anyone not allowing this has to be hiding something, or is not in it for the glory. If youre not in it for the glory, it would have been released and would have been just a rumor among a few good friends. You bring a fish forward like that, be ready to defend its status.

Nebe

08-06-2011, 07:58 PM

compare

Nebe

08-06-2011, 08:31 PM

buncha great pics here... Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper (http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclusive-story-and-photos-potential-world-record-striper/)

Monty

08-06-2011, 08:32 PM

Hey cowhunter, admit it, you're mad because he's a redsox fan.
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stripermaineiac

08-06-2011, 08:49 PM

You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand. LOL.My 56lber was51 in. my 54 was 49 in my 53 was 52 in my 51 was 53 in. I've got a couple more in there too. LOL. I saw a 58 in that was 38lb.I also saw a 96 lb net fish that was 63 in long.The guy is credible. The jealousy isn't.Stupidly sad.My hats off to the guy. I've lost some really nice hogs an saw one over 60 in lost by a buddy on the Vineyard . big fish are out there. Thats a big fish. I have a 54 on the wall that that fish makes look like a Guppy.

Mike P

08-06-2011, 08:55 PM