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UserRemoved1
08-13-2011, 06:00 PM
:yak5:

spence
08-13-2011, 06:05 PM
Bachmann or Obama...who do you choose?

-spence

scottw
08-13-2011, 07:20 PM
Bachmann or Obama...who do you choose?

-spence

Romney won the Ames straw poll and Huckabee won the Iowa caucus last time around....so this means what?

btw..Pat Robertson won the Ames Straw Poll in 1987

spence
08-13-2011, 07:23 PM
Romney won the Ames straw poll and Huckabee won the Iowa caucus last time around....so this means what?

btw..Pat Robertson won the Ames Straw Poll in 1987
Not the point.
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scottw
08-13-2011, 07:53 PM
Not the point.
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you seem to be desperately struggling for one....:wall:

spence
08-13-2011, 07:57 PM
you seem to be desperately struggling for one....:wall:

Actually, it was pretty obvious.
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scottw
08-13-2011, 09:02 PM
Actually, it was pretty obvious.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

that's like asking someone to choose between the rancid hamburger in your right hand and the mystery meat in the other hand behind your back...we know the hamburger stinks, we can see the flies buzzing all around it, it's been kicking around for almost 3 years, and we know it will likely give us food poisoning and maybe kill us...we don't know very much about the mystery meat, hasn't really been seen or tested yet and might not even be an option ultimately...but at this point anything is better than that nasty burger with the flies :uhuh:

Gallup
"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39% Margin marks first statistically significant lead among registered voters
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects.

UserRemoved1
08-14-2011, 05:17 AM
I'll take the mystery meat. Just cook the s hit out of it and cover it in ketchup


UNFORTUNATELY we can't do this with our president :smash:

UserRemoved1
08-14-2011, 05:44 AM
current or future president

:)

Raven
08-14-2011, 06:17 AM
Perry /Palin ticket sounds catchy

scottw
08-14-2011, 06:31 AM
current or future president

:)

you will be force fed rancid burger by the MSM and Spence types for the next 15 months, they will declare any alternative to be inadequate, unsafe and untested...dangerous in fact with no actual evidence to back up those claims and despite the obvious rot of the product that they continue to push and support as "good for you"...while simultaneously lamenting the lack of a good alternative to their tainted beef....

Fly Rod
08-14-2011, 06:45 AM
Bachmann or Obama...who do you choose?

-spence


That's a no brainer! :smash:

buckman
08-14-2011, 07:13 AM
The reason Bachmann is doing well is because Obama is the alternative. People are fed up.
Blame the Tea Party. It's been three years now, blaming Bush doesn't cut it anymore.

Fishpart
08-14-2011, 07:15 AM
you will be force fed rancid burger by the MSM and Spence types for the next 15 months, they will declare any alternative to be inadequate, unsafe and untested...dangerous in fact with no actual evidence to back up those claims and despite the obvious rot of the product that they continue to push and support as "good for you"...while simultaneously lamenting the lack of a good alternative to their tainted beef....

Lack of Qualified Alternative you say????

Last election the MSM tricked the sheeple into electing a one term senator with a record of voting Present. Look where we are today; a substantually weaker Union with a credit rating on par with Greece:smash:...

sburnsey931
08-14-2011, 07:41 AM
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sburnsey931
08-14-2011, 07:42 AM
I vote "present" just like Obie did.
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Jim in CT
08-14-2011, 07:45 AM
Some weird candidates have won in Iowa before, it means very little...Bachman's campaign will fizzle. It'ss be either Romney or Perry, with Marco Rubio as the VP. Unless the economy improves substantially, and I cannot see that happening, Obama is DONE. Good riddance...

The fact is, we are a center-right country. We elected a Maoist in a wave of fear when the economy tanked in 2008 (people forget that McCain/Palin were way ahead in the polls until the market crashed). The independents took a chance on Obama, and they are seeing the folly of their ways.

This emperor truly has no clothes. He's an empty suit who got where he is by fear mongering and race-baiting.

spence
08-14-2011, 09:25 AM
The reason Bachmann is doing well is because Obama is the alternative. People are fed up.
Blame the Tea Party. It's been three years now, blaming Bush doesn't cut it anymore.
Bachmann is doing well because the Right is responding to a more polarized message and she's a polarizing candidate. She's also building on the Palin effect and using here local support in Iowa.

She'll be good to capture TV time this summer/fall, but she's just too extreme for independent or moderate Republican voters and too intolerant to moderate her position on just about anything.

She's getting pounded on Meet the Press right now over her views on homosexuality :uhuh:

-spence

JohnnyD
08-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Some eerie similarities to batboy.
http://i.imgur.com/g1CF4.png

Jim in CT
08-14-2011, 11:23 AM
Johnny,she also raised TWENTY THREE foster children in her home. I don't particularly like her politics, and I'd never vote for her in the primary. However, I'd like to see her get some credit, insome corners of this discussion, for the fact that she is obviously someone who cares deeply about needy kids. I've never seen the liberal media even mention her generosity, they are too obsessed with destroying her.

scottw
08-14-2011, 11:29 AM
polarized message and a polarizing candidate. just too extreme and too intolerant to moderate position on just about anything.

views on homosexuality :uhuh:

-spence

sounds exactly like the guy that you voted for last go around...

what is Obama's position on homosexuality and gay marriage?...last I heard he was still "evolving" toward an opinion

buckman
08-14-2011, 11:48 AM
what is Obama's position on homosexuality and gay marriage?...last I heard he was still "evolving" toward an opinion

He fell out of favor with the gay's...."They" will be voting Bachmann too!

JohnnyD
08-14-2011, 02:18 PM
Johnny,she also raised TWENTY THREE foster children in her home. I don't particularly like her politics, and I'd never vote for her in the primary. However, I'd like to see her get some credit, insome corners of this discussion, for the fact that she is obviously someone who cares deeply about needy kids. I've never seen the liberal media even mention her generosity, they are too obsessed with destroying her.
If you want to give someone credit for their generosity, support a democratic candidate.

Quite frankly, I don't care how many foster kids she raised or how nice of a person she is. I still think the woman is a terrible political candidate who doesn't stand a chance of gathering support from any groups that isn't hard lined christian and hyper conservative.

Fishpart
08-14-2011, 02:30 PM
If you want to give someone credit for their generosity, support a democratic candidate.


Democrats (Liberals) are generous with other peples money while Conservatives are generous with their own money... Huge difference.

scottw
08-14-2011, 02:33 PM
He fell out of favor with the gay's...."They" will be voting Bachmann too!

I think you are correct :)

New Low: Obama’s Job Approval Rating Sinks Below 40% For First Time
August 14, 2011

President Barack Obama's job approval rating fell below 40 percent for the first time, according to Gallup polling data released Sunday. Data posted Sunday showed just 39 percent of Americans said they approve of Obama’s performance as president, while 54 percent said they disapprove.

BEST PART Former President George W. Bush’s Gallup ratings did not drop below 40 percent until October 2005, two months after Hurricane Katrina.

here ya go JD

scottw
08-14-2011, 02:47 PM
If you want to give someone credit for their generosity, support a democratic candidate.

Quite frankly, I don't care how many foster kids she raised or how nice of a person she is. I still think the woman is a terrible political candidate who doesn't stand a chance of gathering support from any groups that isn't hard lined christian and hyper conservative.

maybe I missed it, but has anyone here argued in support of Bachmann as the Republican nominee outside being the "only" option and in lieu of 4 more years under the boot of the America hating radical leftist currently in the Whitehouse?

Does Bachmann have any friends that are well known domestic terrorists or mentors that are anti American radicals?...because the few disqualifiers that you've listed hardly measure up to those two and look how it worked out for obama :uhuh:

Jim in CT
08-14-2011, 03:54 PM
If you want to give someone credit for their generosity, support a democratic candidate.

Quite frankly, I don't care how many foster kids she raised or how nice of a person she is. I still think the woman is a terrible political candidate who doesn't stand a chance of gathering support from any groups that isn't hard lined christian and hyper conservative.

Well Johnny, when you post unflattering photos of her, it's kind of hard to tell what it is you're looking for in a candidate, since an unflattering photo doesn't say anything about her views on the problems we face, does it?

I agree she's way too radical, her campaign isn't going anywhere. I don't agree with her on some important issues, but her work with foster kids is nothing short of heroic. Absolutely heroic. While that may not mean anything to you, some people might find that worthwhile, some might even find it inspiring.

"If you want to give someone credit for their generosity, support a democratic candidate. "

Since every study shows that conservatives are more generous than liberals, I have no idea why I'd want to do that...in case you don't know this, liberals don't see fostering as the solution to unwanted kids, their solution is abortion.

JohnnyD
08-14-2011, 04:00 PM
Since every study shows that conservatives are more generous than liberals, I have no idea why I'd want to do that...in case you don't know this, liberals don't see fostering as the solution to unwanted kids, their solution is abortion.
A pretty effective one at that.

JohnR
08-14-2011, 05:04 PM
Well, she is likely more experienced as an executive with a more complete resume at this stage in the elections than Barry was at this time in 2007.

Still ain't voting for her if I vote R in the primary.

buckman
08-14-2011, 05:22 PM
A pretty effective one at that.

I'm going to guess in your little corner of the world life is pretty good and Mom and Dad have looked out for you. Perhaps they still do. You have no idea of what being a foster kid is like.Wanting a family that loves you. Think before you type.
Your veiws are border line Nazi.

JohnnyD
08-14-2011, 05:33 PM
I'm going to guess in your little corner of the world life is pretty good and Mom and Dad have looked out for you. Perhaps they still do. You have no idea of what being a foster kid is like.Wanting a family that loves you. Think before you type.
Your veiws are border line Nazi.
Single mom that was never around and dad left before I was born. Nice try though.

buckman
08-14-2011, 05:41 PM
Single mom that was never around and dad left before I was born. Nice try though.

Lucky for us your Mom made the right choice:uhuh:

JohnnyD
08-14-2011, 09:11 PM
Lucky Unfortunately for us your Mom made the right choice:uhuh:
I fixed that for you. :cheers:

Jim in CT
08-15-2011, 07:50 AM
Well, she is likely more experienced as an executive with a more complete resume at this stage in the elections than Barry was at this time in 2007.

Still ain't voting for her if I vote R in the primary.

BINGO. Besides, she probably won't be on the ballot when your primary comes around...

fishbones
08-15-2011, 11:26 AM
Single mom that was never around and dad left before I was born. Nice try though.

Didn't your mom get you started in your business and is still involved in it?

JohnnyD
08-15-2011, 03:19 PM
Didn't your mom get you started in your business and is still involved in it?
I'm actually the one that bailed her out because she needed the help. It was on the verge of collapse. Left school to do so.

spence
08-15-2011, 06:13 PM
Well, she is likely more experienced as an executive with a more complete resume at this stage in the elections than Barry was at this time in 2007.

Still ain't voting for her if I vote R in the primary.
"likely more experienced as an executive with a more complete resume at this stage in the elections"

Huh? I'm not going to say Obama had a long legislative record but she hasn't really done anything of note in private or public. Perhaps her most notable moments were being pushed out in the House to make inflammatory statements.

-spence

RIROCKHOUND
08-15-2011, 06:28 PM
Bachmann Palin or Obama...who do you choose?

-spence

Bachman, Palin, Obama.

We are playing F, Marry, Elect, right?

JohnR
08-16-2011, 08:23 AM
"likely more experienced as an executive with a more complete resume at this stage in the elections"

Huh? I'm not going to say Obama had a long legislative record but she hasn't really done anything of note in private or public. Perhaps her most notable moments were being pushed out in the House to make inflammatory statements.

-spence

She is likely more experienced at this stage than Obama was in 2007. Comparable time in education, little time in the working real world (versus near 0 for O - community organizer / college professor do not fit the real world), comparable time in the state / fed 'guvmint. Obama hasn't exactly done much of note by that time either.

I'm against enough of her views not to vote for her and she is too extreme for my comfort zone, my point was she has about as much relevant exp (some can argue more, some less) as Obama did at that stage.

Taken one step further, perhaps we should demand more from our political system than the hacks we've been saddled with.

RIJIMMY
08-16-2011, 09:37 AM
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Taken one step further, perhaps we should demand more from our political system than the hacks we've been saddled with.

Exactly what the furor should be. As an example, the tea party was able to gain a voice and get their opinion heard. We need to get a similar message out there to all parties - if this is your best, your best wont due (ala Twisted Sister)

we as a country deserve better

The Dad Fisherman
08-16-2011, 09:58 AM
In all seriousness the the question is How.....Do we not vote at all? Do we write in what we see as acceptable?

The parties keep propping up these HorseChit candidates and we end up having to vote for one of them......or don't vote at all....which to me is fundamenally wrong.

fishbones
08-16-2011, 10:02 AM
The parties keep propping up these HorseChit candidates and we end up having to vote for one of them......or don't vote at all....which to me is fundamenally wrong.


And if we don't vote, we still get stuck with one of them. It's a lose lose situation. It's too bad all the best and brightest people go into human resources and stay out of politics.

The Dad Fisherman
08-16-2011, 10:04 AM
The Best and brightest are too smart to run for public office......Its an Idiots Folly

RIJIMMY
08-16-2011, 12:49 PM
And if we don't vote, we still get stuck with one of them. It's a lose lose situation. It's too bad all the best and brightest people go into human resources and stay out of politics.

Time to make the Donuts - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=petqFm94osQ)

JohnnyD
08-16-2011, 01:48 PM
Perfect example of how much a media and the parties play a roll is Ron Paul. He is not a fringe candidate this election and has a very broad supporting base. However, he is ignored by the media and his own party because he goes against the corrupt, pathetic, Corporate-whore mold.

detbuch
08-16-2011, 05:56 PM
Perfect example of how much a media and the parties play a roll is Ron Paul. He is not a fringe candidate this election and has a very broad supporting base. However, he is ignored by the media and his own party because he goes against the corrupt, pathetic, Corporate-whore mold.

So true. The media and the political parties follow the safer "corrupt, pathetic, Corporate-whore mold" of winning by supposedly superior marketing rather than by adherence to principles. Yeah, they pretend and make a good show of principled behavior, but it's, at bottom, a dog-eat-dog war of winning or losing.

The media has learned that Ron Paul is "interesting" and in small bites can garner a spike in viewers or readers. So they'll give him occasional looks, but never too seriously. He's too dangerous to seriously analyze, and to be given "equal time" with the really serious run-of-the-mill politicians who are safely ensconced in the "corrupt, pathetic, Corporate-whore mold." He's (hush, hush) a "Constitutionalist"--one of those antiquated curmudgeons that think the Federal Government should be bound by Constitutional limitations--and a few other "controversial" ideas about the Federal Reserve and so on. It is obvious that the Constitution is "outdated" and basically irrelevant to "modern times." So the media will not objectively (not possible) involve itself with serious discussions about the relevance of the Constitution. It will occasionally give credence to some new exposition of how it doesn't meet our current needs. We are, after all, so different than humans were 200-300 years ago. We certainly don't need individual liberty so much as we need government to guide us through the complex maze of modern life. There are too many of us to be allowed to roam about the landscape at will. We need constant watching to prevent doing harm to one another, and we need constant help to manage the few years we inhabit the public space so that we don't mess it up too badly and so we don't fail too badly which would make us even more of a burden on "society." So Ron Paul is prudently marginalized. The Tea Party is as well. They too are outside the whorish corporate mold.

spence
08-16-2011, 06:08 PM
I think Ron Paul gets MSM attention because he's a novelty of sorts, in that he's consistently about the only elected Republican willing to speak his mind and present views contrary to the GOP talking points. Nothing like Ron Paul to go on a tirade about the Iraq war in a room full of Republicans.

I think his running is mostly to continue to inject his message into the dialogue. He certainly has a small but dedicated base, and when bussed in can even almost win a straw poll. It's amazing that Bachmann beat him by a narrow margin considering the lengths she went to get votes.

While he's a bit outside of the mainstream, Paul should certainly get some props for consistency, non-conformance and while I don't agree with some of his views an understanding for the substance of issues.

-spence

scottw
08-16-2011, 07:24 PM
I think Ron Paul gets MSM attention because he's a novelty of sorts,
I think his running is mostly to continue to inject his message into the dialogue. He certainly has a small but dedicated base, and when bussed in can even almost win a straw poll.
While he's a bit outside of the mainstream, Paul should certainly get some props for consistency, non-conformance and while I don't agree with some of his views an understanding for the substance of issues.

-spence

wow...an "outside the mainstream constitutionalist"...tell me...who is the constitutionalist on the democrat side?

buckman
08-17-2011, 03:53 PM
wow...an "outside the mainstream constitutionalist"...tell me...who is the constitutionalist on the democrat side?

Obama...right Spence?

UserRemoved1
08-18-2011, 01:37 PM
Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas - Aug. 18, 2011 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2)

THAT'S HER CAMPAIGN? :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

yea that ought to solve everyones problems. :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

JohnnyD
08-18-2011, 02:13 PM
Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas - Aug. 18, 2011 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2)

THAT'S HER CAMPAIGN? :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

yea that ought to solve everyones problems. :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
Not to mention that it's completely impossible. Just goes to show how disconnected from reality the woman is. Unless she means $2.99/gal.

scottw
08-18-2011, 03:46 PM
Not to mention that it's completely impossible. Just goes to show how disconnected from reality the woman is. Unless she means $2.99/gal.

According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office.

RIROCKHOUND
08-18-2011, 03:48 PM
According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office.

1.81 actually :uhuh:

Michele Bachmann Promises $2 Gas: Why That's a Fantasy - Ecocentric - TIME.com (http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/08/18/why-michele-bachmanns-2-a-gallon-gas-promise-is-a-fantasy/?hpt=hp_t2)

JohnnyD
08-18-2011, 04:58 PM
According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office.
You should take a macro economics class or two. I wouldn't expect you to understand why $2/gal gas is virtually impossible in the short-term, but someone running for president should have a clue.

buckman
08-18-2011, 05:03 PM
You should take a macro economics class or two. I wouldn't expect you to understand why $2/gal gas is virtually impossible in the short-term, but someone running for president should have a clue.

Well I'm stumped... teach me JD.

RIROCKHOUND
08-18-2011, 06:25 PM
Well I'm stumped... teach me JD.

look two posts up

spence
08-18-2011, 07:28 PM
According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office.
I'd mention the timeline of the massive recession but you guys would accuse me of that "context" thing again.

Perhaps Bachmann is actually promising another big recession?

-spence

striperman36
08-18-2011, 07:44 PM
You should take a macro economics class or two. I wouldn't expect you to understand why $2/gal gas is virtually impossible in the short-term, but someone running for president should have a clue.

Why,, none of them have that as a qualification...

JohnnyD
08-18-2011, 09:04 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq3nyuQazP1qzunibo1_500.jpg
Sadly, this applies to most elected officials though...

scottw
08-18-2011, 10:23 PM
"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment (OBAMA'S ELECTION) when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth."

funny, the same knuckleheads that lapped up and voted for this crap can't wait to jump on Bachmann with both feet :uhuh:

scottw
08-18-2011, 10:28 PM
I'd mention the timeline of the massive recession but you guys would accuse me of that "context" thing again.


-spence

noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....:)

JohnnyD
08-18-2011, 11:15 PM
funny, the same knuckleheads that lapped up and voted for this crap can't wait to jump on Bachmann with both feet :uhuh:
Like economics, you seem to have trouble understanding what it means when someone says neither candidate was a good choice but they chose the lesser of two evils.

spence
08-19-2011, 12:38 AM
noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....:)

For someone who doesn't take me seriously you sure spend a lot of time plotting your cut and paste.

-spence

UserRemoved1
08-19-2011, 03:35 AM
MOST EXCELLENT. Maybe JohnR can make that his avatar :rotf2:

noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....:)

buckman
08-19-2011, 04:03 AM
look two posts up

"The only way we can try to reduce the price of gas effectively — or at least, shield Americans from the economic burden of high prices — is through more fuel-efficient cars,"

I didn't see this coming:rotf2:

buckman
08-19-2011, 04:07 AM
I'd mention the timeline of the massive recession but you guys would accuse me of that "context" thing again.

Perhaps Bachmann is actually promising another big recession?

-spence

Would it start with the booming economy Bush inherited?

I don't think this recession is solved there Spence...I'm pretty sure your guy has us heading into a deeper recession..

justplugit
08-19-2011, 07:03 AM
"The only way we can try to reduce the price of gas effectively — or at least, shield Americans from the economic burden of high prices — is through more fuel-efficient cars,"



Ya mean like the example our President just set by using 41 vechicles including SUVs , big cars and a new million + dollar bus he used on his trip last week?

Wonder if he'll use the taxpayers 1 + million $$ bus for his 2012
campaign? Something like FDR's private train car as they drove across
the nation with him waving from the back of the train?.

JohnnyD
08-19-2011, 08:30 AM
Wonder if he'll use the taxpayers 1 + million $$ bus for his 2012
campaign? Something like FDR's private train car as they drove across
the nation with him waving from the back of the train?.
He will. Along with the Republican nominee, Vice President and Speaker of the house.

detbuch
08-19-2011, 08:59 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq3nyuQazP1qzunibo1_500.jpg
Sadly, this applies to most elected officials though...

I agree with the gist of your comment with the caveat that most officials may have read the Constitution, but may not have understood it. Not that it is hard to understand, but that they have accepted its current distortion.

The picture, though telling of current congressional ignorance of the Constitution, is obviously political in that it's Bachman's face rather than a group picture of Congress, the POTUS, and the SCOTUS. She may have made a gaff or two about the Constitution, but she seems to have a deeper understanding of it and its original intent than most. One supposed gaff was her questioning of Geithner wanting to know where in the Constitution he and the Federal Reserve had the power to act as they had the past two years. He said that the power was granted by Congress. Sounds reasonable? This was supposed, by her critics, to show her ignorance of the Constitution. Actually, nowhere in the Constitution is Congress allowed to delegate its powers to autonomous, unaccountable, independant agencies. This also applies to the myriad of independant regulatory agencies created by Congress--EPA, FDA, etc.. They are units of government having self-contained legislative, executive, and judicial powers. Little agencies of tyranny with no accountability. Congress can, blamelessy, have unpopular legislation and regulation passed by these agencies. The Constitution gives Congress specified powers of legislation and regulation for which it will be responsible and answer to at election time. It does not give Congress the power to bypass that responsibility by delegating it to another unelected agency which is not accountable to the people.

justplugit
08-19-2011, 09:58 AM
He will. Along with the Republican nominee, Vice President and Speaker of the house.

Ya JD, but who do think paid for his bus?
Him, or you and I ?

What's a million + $$$ right?
That thing has to be armored so take a
guess of mpg and carbon Boot print.

JohnnyD
08-19-2011, 11:19 AM
Ya JD, but who do think paid for his bus?
Him, or you and I ?

What's a million + $$$ right?
That thing has to be armored so take a
guess of mpg and carbon Boot print.
You haven't read up about the bus at all, have you? The Secret Service has historically leased buses, installed reinforcement, installed security systems and communication systems and then, when the lease is up, they have to strip it all out.

These buses aren't a new concept within their protection system. The difference is now that they own the cow, instead of buying the milk. In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

buckman
08-19-2011, 12:06 PM
In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

:rotf2::rotf2: and help put Americans back to work!!...Oh wait.."made in Canada"

scottw
08-19-2011, 04:27 PM
For someone who doesn't take me seriously you sure spend a lot of time plotting your cut and paste.

-spence

I didn't say that you weren't amusing and in constant need of correction..just impossible to take seriously with your constant distortions of reality :uhuh:

justplugit
08-19-2011, 04:40 PM
These buses aren't a new concept within their protection system. The difference is now that they own the cow, instead of buying the milk. In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?

Michele should have taken it to the vineyard.

spence
08-19-2011, 05:00 PM
I didn't say that you weren't amusing and in constant need of correction..just impossible to take seriously with your constant distortions of reality :uhuh:
If it's a distortion why correct it?

-spence

spence
08-19-2011, 05:06 PM
As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?
I thought these were to be used by the SS when protecting anyone, the assumption is that Republican officials and candidates will be included as well.

It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence

spence
08-19-2011, 05:09 PM
Would it start with the booming economy Bush inherited?

I don't think this recession is solved there Spence...I'm pretty sure your guy has us heading into a deeper recession..
Bush inherited an economy slipping into a recession as the tech bubble burst, but even with 9/11 nothing like the credit bubble in 2008.

The thing is, people believe the President has way more influence over this stuff than they really do. The major economic trends are driven by larger factors than US policy, we may influence, but don't dictate.

-spence

scottw
08-19-2011, 05:21 PM
If it's a distortion why correct it?

-spence

huh? I'm sure that you'd love to have all of your distortions and spin stand without correction or challenge...

justplugit
08-19-2011, 07:39 PM
It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence

If that's the case, we need to have the SS make the decisions for our budget and spending.

Oh thats right, we don't have a budget.

spence
08-19-2011, 08:07 PM
huh? I'm sure that you'd love to have all of your distortions and spin stand without correction or challenge...
Scott, it's been several years...I'm just waiting for a decent retort.

-spence

spence
08-19-2011, 08:09 PM
If that's the case, we need to have the SS make the decisions for our budget and spending.
Ummmm, huh?

-spence

scottw
08-19-2011, 08:37 PM
Scott, it's been several years...I'm just waiting for a decent retort.

-spence

that really hurts coming from the King of Dishonest Debate :crying:

JohnnyD
08-19-2011, 09:27 PM
As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?

Michele should have taken it to the vineyard.

I thought these were to be used by the SS when protecting anyone, the assumption is that Republican officials and candidates will be included as well.

It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence
spence, I mentioned this like 4 posts up. However, instead of taking an objective position, people just want to bitch for the sake of bitching without actually looking at the facts.

justplugit
08-20-2011, 07:39 AM
Ummmm, huh?

-spence

Right over your head. :hihi:

justplugit
08-20-2011, 07:46 AM
spence, I mentioned this like 4 posts up. However, instead of taking an objective position, people just want to bitch for the sake of bitching without actually looking at the facts.

Ya, i should of googled WH buses. :D

I do gotta say I do take a lot of this stuff with tounge in cheek. :hihi:

spence
08-20-2011, 08:50 AM
Right over your head. :hihi:

No, I just thought it was a dumb comment.
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JohnnyD
08-20-2011, 09:24 AM
I do gotta say I do take a lot of this stuff with tounge in cheek. :hihi:
Same. It's pretty much been the exact same conversation over and over for the last 3 years. Thus why I've just started posting ridiculous pictures in most threads.

justplugit
08-20-2011, 05:30 PM
No, I just thought it was a dumb comment.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Your entitled to your opinion Spence, but it did go over your head. :hihi:

justplugit
08-20-2011, 05:36 PM
Same. It's pretty much been the exact same conversation over and over for the last 3 years.

Ya JD, but ya gotta admit it can bring a lot of smiles to your face,. :hihi:

UserRemoved1
08-20-2011, 05:45 PM
this thread is awesome

I'm gonna start calling you SPINIT SPENCE :hee:

spence
08-20-2011, 07:34 PM
Your entitled to your opinion Spence, but it did go over your head. :hihi:

How do you think?
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justplugit
08-20-2011, 08:01 PM
Re-read it and you'll see. :D

spence
08-20-2011, 09:00 PM
Re-read it and you'll see. :D

I read it the first time.
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justplugit
08-21-2011, 11:00 AM
I read it the first time.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Well you either missed the sarcasm, or don't know iwhat
sarcasm is. I assume you being a pretty smart guy it's the former. :D

scottw
08-21-2011, 11:49 AM
I assume you being a pretty smart guy . :D

he's "OBAMA SMART" :uhuh: