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PRBuzz 08-22-2011, 09:27 AM Latest computer predictions: AM hurricane guidance has Irene just south of N.Carolina Sat AM as Cat 2/3 storm, ready to run the coast. Long ways out but interesting track up the east coast, especially if it moves slightly farther east.
RIJIMMY 08-22-2011, 10:02 AM got to watch this one closely, I have a connecting flight in Miami friday morning!
JohnR 08-22-2011, 10:10 AM What would a North Shore leg be without threat of a Hurricane?
GattaFish 08-22-2011, 02:22 PM This just might be interesting....
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likwid 08-23-2011, 05:24 AM More east in the forecast this AM.
Potential for a bounce off Hatteras then nailing us.
PRBuzz 08-23-2011, 05:32 AM Repeat of BOB? Only land falling hurricane of 1991, direct hit on NE.
likwid 08-23-2011, 05:49 AM Repeat of BOB? Only land falling hurricane of 1991, direct hit on NE.
Similar is possible.
NOGAPS shows it taking a similar track except a little more East at Hatteras then running us down, GFS mean (consensus) shows Nantucket getting a direct hit.
General consensus shows somewhere between Patchogue LI and Nantucket. Basically nothing good.
JohnR 08-23-2011, 06:47 AM This morning's model: http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_ensmodel.gif
likwid 08-23-2011, 07:11 AM 8am refresh looking a bit better, but its still a week away and the resolution is crap.
Showing staying offshore along the canyons which means lots of wind/rain/waves/surge.
This could change.
GFS doesn't make me happy.
RIROCKHOUND 08-23-2011, 07:24 AM another day of model verification will start to tell the tale. Watch the position of the two High's and the upper atmosphere trough over NE later in the week.....
rwilhelm 08-23-2011, 11:44 AM May finally get some decent waves! :jump1:
RIJIMMY 08-23-2011, 01:49 PM looks better for my flight from miami.
likwid 08-24-2011, 05:57 AM This morning's model: http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_ensmodel.gif
6am = more left again.
Landfall still somewhere between LI and Nantucket.
Mike P 08-24-2011, 11:05 AM Evacuations begin in NC as Irene strengthens - Weather - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44254106/ns/weather/t/irene-strengthens-category-takes-aim-east-coast/?fb_ref=.TlUIOi5qkbw.like&fb_source=profile_multiline#.TlUgPmXK1tx)
I'm not loving this track, for where I am. :yak5:
JohnR 08-24-2011, 11:11 AM 11am model - a little more east - local stations saying though that it may be at Cat 2 when it comes to New England over the previous Cat 1
http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_model.gif
Bob Thomas 08-24-2011, 11:12 AM I hear ya mike. Debating in whether to drop the tent trailer or risk it. Back section on BSP might be safe enough, wind being the only concern
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likwid 08-24-2011, 11:17 AM John, combine the models and they go straight up my yard. :hidin:
JohnR 08-24-2011, 11:53 AM John, combine the models and they go straight up my yard. :hidin:
They were going straight through my yard.
With the harder Northeast quadrant, the more east the better.
Mike P 08-24-2011, 12:05 PM NOAAs latest track has the eye pretty much going right up Narragansett Bay.
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Mike P 08-24-2011, 12:09 PM The other thing I'm not loving is their model that has it still a cat 1 a good bit inland, in Maine, on Monday.
RIROCKHOUND 08-24-2011, 12:13 PM It will be intersting the next couple of days, but as always, the track won't be close to 'locked in' until it crosses 40/70, at which point we'll be all sleeping Sunday night.....
likwid 08-24-2011, 12:16 PM They were going straight through my yard.
With the harder Northeast quadrant, the more east the better.
If you enjoy major flooding, yes.
RIROCKHOUND 08-24-2011, 12:21 PM If you enjoy major flooding, yes.
50miles either side of 95 calling for potentially 10"
likwid 08-24-2011, 12:34 PM 50miles either side of 95 calling for potentially 10"
The causeway down the street here will be underwater with boat like ornaments.
striperman36 08-24-2011, 12:41 PM i,ll stay away up here in kennebago
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BMEUPSCOTTY 08-24-2011, 12:46 PM 50miles either side of 95 calling for potentially 10"
Plus this:
Forecast details this weekend... regardless of the track...it does appear the stage is being set for a predecessor heavy rain event sometime Saturday and especially Saturday night. Deep tropical moisture streaming well in advance of Irene will interact with a middle level trough. This has the potential to produce heavy rain and flooding ahead of Irene into early Sunday morning. :eek:
from nws taunton
likwid 08-24-2011, 02:05 PM well #^&#^&#^&#^&
2pm models have tightened up on the south coast/south county again.
GFS has crept left again along with NOGAPS
not liking this at all
Mike P 08-24-2011, 02:48 PM well #^&#^&#^&#^&
2pm models have tightened up on the south coast/south county again.
GFS has crept left again along with NOGAPS
not liking this at all
Yeah, I saw that. Guess I should buy some rope and replace what I tied the grill down with last year when Earl was making noises, and maybe truck on up to my sister's in RI and reclaim my chain saw. I think I have some 2-cycle pre-mix in the shed, still. :grins:
buckman 08-24-2011, 03:29 PM I'm seeing a great weather window for Sat morning tuna!!!
Sweetwater 08-24-2011, 03:40 PM Too many models put Truro on the dangerous right-side of the storm. This does not make me happy. However, I am wondering which beach I'm going to fish on Saturday. :) :fishin:
likwid 08-24-2011, 04:03 PM 5pm is a whole lot more of the same.
horseneck road along the water will disappear.
also possible cat4 in the next 12 hours.
looks like it'll hold cat 2 just south of us saturday.
High tide in NB @ 1920 Sunday
fishbones 08-24-2011, 05:24 PM 5pm is a whole lot more of the same.
horseneck road along the water will disappear.
also possible cat4 in the next 12 hours.
looks like it'll hold cat 2 just south of us saturday.
High tide in NB @ 1920 Sunday
So are you saying that I shouldn't head down to my friends beach house on West Island this weekend?
tysdad115 08-24-2011, 05:37 PM So what casts best into a 100mph wind? Im thinking loaded bottle Darter?
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johnny ducketts 08-24-2011, 06:30 PM crap....what the hell, do i still have to payback the 8k, housing stimulus if the house is gone...?..
What did you guys do for bob, I was in upstate NY, and only 14 at the time.
JohnR 08-24-2011, 06:36 PM What did you guys do for bob, I was in upstate NY, and only 14 at the time.
Drove around in the truck with brother dragging trees out of the street.
likwid 08-24-2011, 07:26 PM So are you saying that I shouldn't head down to my friends beach house on West Island this weekend?
Bring your floaties.
And a chainsaw.
And about 30 gallons of gas.
Raider Ronnie 08-24-2011, 08:12 PM I'm seeing a great weather window for Sat morning tuna!!!
Hope so :grins:
Mike P 08-24-2011, 08:31 PM I don't see the big shift west that some guys seem to be talking about :huh:
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likwid 08-24-2011, 08:43 PM I don't see the big shift west that some guys seem to be talking about :huh:
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There hasn't been one, not sure what crack the local news is smoking.
edit: also weather channel.
they were just going on about how GFS shows it hitting hatteras, GFS/GFS ensemble have it running about 50-100 miles offshore hatteras.
crack poureth over
JohnR 08-24-2011, 09:17 PM There hasn't been one, not sure what crack the local news is smoking.
edit: also weather channel.
they were just going on about how GFS shows it hitting hatteras, GFS/GFS ensemble have it running about 50-100 miles offshore hatteras.
crack poureth over
Yeh, I just saw that bit. Plus we now have the possibilities of Tornadoes on the east side of the storm. Any check what calendar year this is :huh:? 2012?
But someone alluded earlier that it is always safe where Jim Cantore shows up and supposedly he's doing PVD - so I'm safe!
Mike P 08-24-2011, 10:14 PM The NWS track at 11 PM hasn't changed one iota. Same track as this morning. A bad one for us.
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Mike P 08-25-2011, 04:54 AM Still not great, but a little better for us. But--it's gonna suck for millions from NYC to DC.
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likwid 08-25-2011, 05:01 AM NYC would be toast if that holds.
Lets see what the turn does.
Mike P 08-25-2011, 05:22 AM That track is starting to look eerily familiar. I was only a year old when this one visited, but I saw the 8 mm movies that my dad took of Taylor's Point in Buzzards Bay.:eek5:
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likwid 08-25-2011, 05:48 AM That track is starting to look eerily familiar. I was only a year old when this one visited, but I saw the 8 mm movies that my dad took of Taylor's Point in Buzzards Bay.:eek5:
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Carol/38 take your pick.
Mike P 08-25-2011, 06:36 AM 38 brought a 10' storm surge in Buzzards Bay, and Carol's was 8'. The old RR station in Wareham had both marks on one of its walls. I think there'll be lots of flooding along the South Coast and up into Buzzards Bay--we have new moon tides coming up, too.
This is going to be a major suck pill for a lot of people. Hopefully, it might have an effect on the thinking about shoreline development, but, probably not. :doh:
likwid 08-25-2011, 06:40 AM Edgartown Yacht Club was underwater to the 2nd floor....
Putting the Mako in one of your legal cohorts yard tomorrow. :hihi:
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 06:55 AM That track is starting to look eerily familiar. I was only a year old when this one visited, but I saw the 8 mm movies that my dad took of Taylor's Point in Buzzards Bay.:eek5:
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There is a big difference between a Cat 1/2 and a Cat 3 storm, but expect a lot of overwash, erosion and damage along the coast. Bob was a 2 over BI, then dropped to a 1. This should be similar intensity....
justplugit 08-25-2011, 07:14 AM The 38 storm was worse than Carol. It brought a large ship in
and deposited in downtown Providence.
I was 15 when Carol hit and that was a wicked storm. Still remember the devestation. Loked like Hiroshima.
The microbursts and tornadoes these storms produce do unbelievable damage.
spence 08-25-2011, 09:10 AM Getting worse, it looks like the low bringing these storms today and tomorrow is going to stall out just north of us...so Irene will run right into it. They seem pretty concerned about the chance for tornados in RI and SE Mass.
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Mike P 08-25-2011, 09:27 AM There is a big difference between a Cat 1/2 and a Cat 3 storm, but expect a lot of overwash, erosion and damage along the coast. Bob was a 2 over BI, then dropped to a 1. This should be similar intensity....
Bob was a much more compact storm than this one, though. I was living on LI when it passed 60 miles to the west as a cat 2, and the leaves barely rustled. Even on the eastern side, hurricane force winds didn't reach too far from the eye wall.
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 09:49 AM very true. the size is remanicent of Carol, but the intensity is not.
going to be an event, but not the catasthophic event of Carol or 1938.
JohnR 08-25-2011, 10:05 AM Getting worse, it looks like the low bringing these storms today and tomorrow is going to stall out just north of us...so Irene will run right into it. They seem pretty concerned about the chance for tornados in RI and SE Mass.
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I saw that last night, likely tornadoes spawning on the eastern side of the storm.
Is it 2012 yet? Must be because I haven't seen Raven anywhere on the Hurricane threads so me thinks he's already burrowed in a mountain somewhere.
Interesting that the forecast tracks are creeping westward relative to where they were yesterday. I would have much preferred it had continued east.
spence 08-25-2011, 10:19 AM Interesting that the forecast tracks are creeping westward relative to where they were yesterday. I would have much preferred it had continued east.
Yes, either it tracks east and we get a direct hit or it continues west and we still get the wind. Doesn't look like there's a good scenario.
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JohnR 08-25-2011, 10:31 AM Yes, either it tracks east and we get a direct hit or it continues west and we still get the wind. Doesn't look like there's a good scenario.
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I agree.
To rephrase - continued to trend east as in eye east of Nantucket.
Mike P 08-25-2011, 10:40 AM Yes, either it tracks east and we get a direct hit or it continues west and we still get the wind. Doesn't look like there's a good scenario.
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It's a much better picture for us today, bearing in mind that storms don't always do what the "models" predict. If you take a look at yesterday's NOAA track, in addition to the present track being predicted to be a good bit west, the storm is predicted to weaken. Yesterday's models had it still a cat 1 storm in Maine. Today's have it possibly being "only" TS force when it reaches the CT coast. Whether that's due to the more inland track, or due to some upper atmosphere "sheer" that will start to break up the organization of the thing, I don't know, because clearly the water temps along the NJ coast are warm enough to sustain this as a cat 2 storm.
The trend in these storms of late (remember Earl last year?) is for them to drift eastwards off the track that the "models" predicted 24-48 hours beforehand. I don't think that we're out of the woods yet. However, unless these models are FUBAR, it will not drift far off to the east as Earl and prior storms did as they got closer to us.
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 10:42 AM [QUOTE=Mike P;882817]Whether that's due to the more inland track, or due to some upper atmosphere "sheer" that will start to break up the organization of the thing, I don't know, because clearly the water temps along the NJ coast are warm enough to sustain this as a cat 2 storm.[QUOTE]
It is probably a mix of interaction with the land on the left side, and shallower water. Hurricanes like warm, deep water (where the warm extends to a great depth) so it can keep the heat pump going. Generally thats around 80deg F to maintain-strengthen.....
JohnR 08-25-2011, 10:52 AM Has anyone seen any predicted storm surge models yet? I'm about 14' up and < 1000 feet from the bay. Don't think I'll be waterfront by any stretch but an ounce of preparation....
spence 08-25-2011, 10:55 AM Has anyone seen any predicted storm surge models yet? I'm about 14' up and < 1000 feet from the bay. Don't think I'll be waterfront by any stretch but an ounce of preparation....
I had read a potential for 10-15 feet but if the storm stays west I'd think long island would get it the worst.
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Saltheart 08-25-2011, 11:03 AM Moon tide + a foot or two do to wind. That leaves you maybe good to 7 or 8 foot surge. All depends on where and when it hits. Hopefully its low tide!
JohnR 08-25-2011, 11:55 AM I had read a potential for 10-15 feet but if the storm stays west I'd think long island would get it the worst.
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I agree, but historical models of 38 had lots of storm surge in the bay because the water couldn't get out.
I am so glad I didn't buy on Conimicut Point
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 12:12 PM I agree, but historical models of 38 had lots of storm surge in the bay because the water couldn't get out.
I am so glad I didn't buy on Conimicut Point
It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
Mike P 08-25-2011, 12:18 PM It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
Yup, and it's the same situation in Buzzards Bay--very wide mouth, tiny neck (the Canal). In 54, Carol's storm surge almost wiped out the Taylor's Point area, where MMA sits today. I remember seeing dad's pictures of houses sitting on the RR tracks near Maco's. Swift's Beach is another bad area. In 38 a number of people were killed there, by the surge.
johnny ducketts 08-25-2011, 12:26 PM um... so what happens when 4 models take it west and 4 take it east and Boston and the lower cape is in the middle:skulz:
Mike P 08-25-2011, 12:32 PM um... so what happens when 4 models take it west and 4 take it east and Boston and the lower cape is in the middle:skulz:
You do what professional weather forecasters seem to do when they're presented with that scenario--flip a coin. :rotf2:
Fly Rod 08-25-2011, 12:36 PM I'm predicting that by the time it hits Cape Ann it will be a #1 with winds around 75 mph. Regardless of how powerful this storm is Cape Anners will be out driving along the shore watching the waves crashing along the rocky shore.
JohnR 08-25-2011, 12:39 PM It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
I was going to use "funneling effect" as that was how I understood from previous readings but didn't want to appear all nerdy :devil2: :buds:
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 12:53 PM I was going to use "funneling effect" as that was how I understood from previous readings but didn't want to appear all nerdy :devil2: :buds:
I am a living walking nerd in a fishermans body. can't help it...
fyi, 2pm NOAA-GFS model (Wind speed; the maroon is 60kts )
This is 0000 UTC Monday (Sunday Evening Local)
Watch for an easterly drift again.....
Mike P 08-25-2011, 12:58 PM I am a living walking nerd in a fishermans body. can't help it...
fyi, 2pm NOAA-GFS model (Wind speed; the maroon is 60kts )
This is 0000 UTC Monday (Sunday Evening Local)
Watch for an easterly drift again.....
Earl had us dead in his sights last year at this stage of the storm, and that one passed well to our east--I'm towards the eastern end of the Canal and we never saw wind gusts over 30 mph. I think the NWS had hurricane warnings posted for my area as little as 6 hours before Earl arrived, and it passed with TS warnings still in place.
UCT = GMT? There's a 4 hour lag between that and EDT, if so. That's 8 PM Sunday. Crap.
johnny ducketts 08-25-2011, 12:59 PM that's bad right?
she's coming back more to the east then?
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2011, 01:02 PM UCT = GMT? There's a 4 hour lag between that and EDT, if so. That's 8 PM Sunday. Crap.
Earl took a fairly hard left... not much shws Irene will do that...
ues UTC - GMT. High tide....
Mike P 08-25-2011, 01:07 PM that's bad right?
she's coming back more to the east then?
Who knows, at this point. The worst case scenario for RI/SE Mass, other than taking the eye wall dead in the kisser, is landfall around Watch Hill. Bob made landfall around Westport, and everything 40-50 miles to the east got creamed. This might have a bigger area of circulation than Bob. Pick your poison--do you want it going 50 miles east of the Cape, with TS storm force winds and up to 10" of rain on already saturated soil, causing trees to uproot? Or do you want it going 50 miles west, with hurricane force winds causing trees to snap?
Best case for us is it going up the Delaware River valley into NY around Binghampton. It needs a western track for that.
JohnR 08-25-2011, 01:12 PM Damn. Not what I want to see.
Mike P 08-25-2011, 01:14 PM Earl took a fairly hard left... not much shws Irene will do that...
ues UTC - GMT. High tide....
I know, and there were one or two models showing that right hook about 40 hours ahead of it getting here. I don't see any model taking Irene that far east at this point :(
JohnR 08-25-2011, 01:16 PM High tide. With that time and model that should have the strongest part of the storm pushing water up the funnel, at high Moon tide.
Nice.
tysdad115 08-25-2011, 01:17 PM Latest predicitions showing it to be a Cat one or TS by the time it gets here. Unless I'm missing something.
Mike P 08-25-2011, 01:28 PM Latest predicitions showing it to be a Cat one or TS by the time it gets here. Unless I'm missing something.
It's really still a crap shot 72 hours ahead of time. If it stays out over the water, it may not weaken to TS strength by the time it gets here.
johnny ducketts 08-25-2011, 02:19 PM ?
Biblical Proportions - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0)
likwid 08-25-2011, 02:22 PM While we've had alot of model movement, GFS has stayed pretty much rock solid within 50-100 miles of its past tracks over the past 48 hours.
I'm a bit concerned with that as is RIRH.
If it stays east of hatteras its not going to degrade.
likwid 08-25-2011, 02:50 PM um... so what happens when 4 models take it west and 4 take it east and Boston and the lower cape is in the middle:skulz:
YAHTZEE!
I'll get my coat.
Maybe I'll catch the barrier closing. If I do I'll video it.
buckman 08-25-2011, 04:46 PM Latest predicitions showing it to be a Cat one or TS by the time it gets here. Unless I'm missing something.
That's the way I see it. Cape is going to have a narly noreaster.
striperman36 08-25-2011, 06:30 PM It's comin for me in maine
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Mike P 08-25-2011, 07:02 PM 2 PM forecast models (despite the 5 PM header). Note the GFS model in red---it's moved east of where it was at 8 AM this morning.
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spence 08-25-2011, 07:22 PM I think people are going to see the more western track and think it's going to blow by...even if it hits NYC or CT dead on RI is likely to get pounded. New England just ain't that big and this storm is still pretty huge.
-spence
Mike P 08-25-2011, 09:24 PM 8 PM GFS model still has it going a little east. Even the western tracks don't help us very much, except to the extent they cause it to weaken as it passes up the eastern third of NJ.
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Mike P 08-26-2011, 05:05 AM Aw #^&#^&#^&#^&---all of the 5 AM models have it tracking farther east than yesterday's. :wall:
likwid 08-26-2011, 05:27 AM Yep, models are moving east....
Mike P 08-26-2011, 07:27 AM The Weather Channel has to be using 3 day old models. :doh:
I like this feature, but I'm not liking the picture it's painting. This is Carol Redoux, except that it'll probably be a strong cat 1 and not a cat 3 when it gets here.
WunderMap Interactive Radar & Weather Stations : Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=30.0&lon=-77.3&zoom=6&type=hyb&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=1&hur.wr=0&hur.cod=1&hur.fx=1&hur.obs=1&fire=0&ft=0&sl=0)
I'm not buying the hype. Strong tropical storm... Mild damage. Some flooding. Nothing like the last 2 hurricanes we have had. Just my opinion...
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JohnR 08-26-2011, 08:12 AM I'm not buying the hype. Strong tropical storm... Mild damage. Some flooding. Nothing like the last 2 hurricanes we have had. Just my opinion...
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Not buying the hype but trying to be reasonably prepared & prudent. Even have my beer* if it fizzles I can switch to my non-game-face.
* a nice Belgian White - did a functional verification and validation test last night and that was working as well.
Mike P 08-26-2011, 09:55 AM I'm not buying the hype. Strong tropical storm... Mild damage. Some flooding. Nothing like the last 2 hurricanes we have had. Just my opinion...
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Could be--the 11 AM numbers are that max sustained winds dropped a bit, again, to 105 mph. A lot depends on whether it tracks north over land or water. All of the 8 AM models show a track across Hatteras and then out into the Atlantic again.
spence 08-26-2011, 10:03 AM Who's coming over to help me take my awning down?
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johnny ducketts 08-26-2011, 10:29 AM Is this whats coming?
Family guy, Tricia Takanawa reports during a hurricane (HQ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPco0VJuMsU)
likwid 08-26-2011, 10:34 AM I'm not buying the hype. Strong tropical storm... Mild damage. Some flooding. Nothing like the last 2 hurricanes we have had. Just my opinion...
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Yeah your kayak might roll around the yard. :rotf2:
Maybe the gubbermint weather control jets will save us?
striperman36 08-26-2011, 10:38 AM South Jersey's going to get whacked.
We'll have TS winds, storm surge and about 5 inches of rain Sat - Mon.
Expecting 8 up here in NW Maine, dam guy was lowering the lake, running 300 cfs for about 6 hours, triple normal flow,
pulling boats all day. I think one may get stuck on the back of the RAV
spence 08-26-2011, 10:46 AM I'm going to throw a fresh chart on the barograph just for you :hihi:
South Jersey's going to get whacked.
We'll have TS winds, storm surge and about 5 inches of rain Sat - Mon.
Expecting 8 up here in NW Maine, dam guy was lowering the lake, running 300 cfs for about 6 hours, triple normal flow,
pulling boats all day. I think one may get stuck on the back of the RAV
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Saltheart 08-26-2011, 10:57 AM Instead of jumping to a 4 it dropped to a 2. That helps a lot. Be nice if NC takes it down to 1 before it rakes NJ.
striperman36 08-26-2011, 10:57 AM I'll stop by next week if the bridge is still standing.
spence 08-26-2011, 11:05 AM Instead of jumping to a 4 it dropped to a 2. That helps a lot. Be nice if NC takes it down to 1 before it rakes NJ.
I believe they're expecting it to become a 3 again as it hits the gulf stream.
-spence
spence 08-26-2011, 11:07 AM I'll stop by next week if the bridge is still standing.
Running yesterday by the water I wondered how much those giant barges they have in the Sakonnet they're using to stage the steel tubs will move in a 70kt wind.
-spence
JohnR 08-26-2011, 11:44 AM Running yesterday by the water I wondered how much those giant barges they have in the Sakonnet they're using to stage the steel tubs will move in a 70kt wind.
-spence
Maybe they'll correct for the poor alignment ;)
Mike P 08-26-2011, 12:30 PM Instead of jumping to a 4 it dropped to a 2. That helps a lot. Be nice if NC takes it down to 1 before it rakes NJ.
I wouldn't count on it. At 11, the eye had basically disappeared. As of almost 1 PM, it's re-forming very distinctly. And check how far north the outer bands are--off Delaware, and the storm is still several hundred miles south of the OBX. The wind is gonna blow for a loooonnnnggg time on Sunday. Even if it's only TS strength, some trees are coming down, especially when 4-6" of rain add to what's already a very saturated earth.
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Saltheart 08-26-2011, 12:52 PM These things change fast. My house was at ground zero when Gloria came up into CT in 85. After hitting LI , she jumped up in forward speed and blew through in a couple of hours. It went from a forward speed of about 25 to almost 60 in half an hour. Still had a big tree from neighbor's yard come down , took out the power for a week and just missed crushing my car.
The track predictions are pretty iffy. Something can send the storms off at an unexpected angle. A big wide one like this still gets us , even with a major shift though.
At this point , a reduction in force looks like our best chance.
Prepare for the worst, hope for better. :)
likwid 08-26-2011, 01:25 PM These things change fast. My house was at ground zero when Gloria came up into CT in 85. After hitting LI , she jumped up in forward speed and blew through in a couple of hours. It went from a forward speed of about 25 to almost 60 in half an hour. Still had a big tree from neighbor's yard come down , took out the power for a week and just missed crushing my car.
The track predictions are pretty iffy. Something can send the storms off at an unexpected angle. A big wide one like this still gets us , even with a major shift though.
At this point , a reduction in force looks like our best chance.
Prepare for the worst, hope for better. :)
Gloria blew through but wiped out Buzzards Bay.
Eye wall replacement under way. Strengthening is a definite possibility.
Mike P 08-26-2011, 02:01 PM Huge wind field. HF winds 90 miles out from the eye, TS winds 290 miles. TS wind field almost 600 miles across.
I don't care how fast it blows through---it's gonna blow a long time.
spence 08-26-2011, 02:04 PM Huge wind field. HF winds 90 miles out from the eye, TS winds 290 miles. TS wind field almost 600 miles across.
I don't care how fast it blows through---it's gonna blow a long time.
Down south with current conditions (big size and slow speed) they're talking at least TS winds in some locations for a 24 hour period! :shocked:
At least the storm surge looks to be relatively mild.
-spence
spence 08-26-2011, 04:02 PM Just noticed that the whole south shore from LI to the Cape has been upgraded to a hurricane warning.
-spence
JohnR 08-26-2011, 05:19 PM Just noticed that the whole south shore from LI to the Cape has been upgraded to a hurricane warning.
-spence
It is because those areas can now be considered to experience those conditions within a set time frame - 36 hours I believe. It was going to happen - just a question of when.
spence 08-26-2011, 05:31 PM It is because those areas can now be considered to experience those conditions within a set time frame - 36 hours I believe. It was going to happen - just a question of when.
Yes, but it also shows confidence the storm will remain pretty strong.
-spence
Spence.. this will be nothing like hurricane BOB or Gloria... They keep calling it a monster storm and that it is huge.. this is true. it is large, but its not as powerful as hurricanes of the past.
spence 08-26-2011, 05:54 PM Spence.. this will be nothing like hurricane BOB or Gloria... They keep calling it a monster storm and that it is huge.. this is true. it is large, but its not as powerful as hurricanes of the past.
I think the point they're trying to make is that it will impact millions of people. Yes, it's not likely to give RI a dose of 80+ kt winds...but it's still going to cause some damage.
Remember as well that the impact south of us is still likely to be large, and the overall story is about the storm...not just RI.
That being said, my neighbor is boarding up his house tonight while I am not. The awning might still need to come down though...
-spence
definately take down the awning.. stash lawn furnature and cut griffens hair...;)
Mike P 08-26-2011, 08:28 PM Hard to say for sure since we can't get a visual sat pic at night, but from the IR image, it looks like it could be getting a bit stronger. It has also begun a slight NE swing, still 200 miles or so south of Hatteras. It's possible it could come up this way over water for the whole ride, and that water is piss warm right now. It ran into some dry air today which caused the weakening. Pressure held steady most of the afternoon, and in fact, dropped one mb in the 8 PM readings.
The outer rain bands from this will be over MV and Nantucket overnight, and here on the Cape by mid-morning, from the looks of it. The hurricane warnings now extend to Sagamore Beach--right down the road from me. :rotf2:
Mike P 08-26-2011, 08:31 PM Pretty solid core of circulation and a distinct eye. Look at how far those outer bands extend.
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likwid 08-26-2011, 08:35 PM More east shifting. :hs:
Saltheart 08-27-2011, 02:42 PM We've gotten about as lucky as could be hoped for the last 24 hours. Soon it'll be time to ride it out. Good luck and God bless to everyone.
well.. i got a 12 pack of Bass Ale for tomorrow.. i cant wait for this to be over with.
striperman36 08-27-2011, 08:57 PM Liquor store's closed tomorrow?
Saltheart 08-28-2011, 12:23 AM Liquor store's closed tomorrow?
They are allowed to be open near me , whether they will or not is a different story. Of course just having had my heart jump started on Monday (back to normal) , liquor is not a high priority right now.
likwid 08-28-2011, 04:21 AM Wind has picked up down here and lights already flickering.
UserRemoved 08-28-2011, 04:53 AM It ain't doin #^&#^&#^&#^& here. No rain right now and barely any wind. I got rain at 3 for about 20 min and that's it for heavy stuff.
Where's the beef
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UserRemoved 08-28-2011, 04:55 AM Even the bats are out right now
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Bob Thomas 08-28-2011, 05:33 AM We already had a tree come down on wires and cut the power out in town. Lots of rain and wind is getting stronger. Best is yet to come!
likwid 08-28-2011, 05:59 AM Hour and a half till high tide and the ramp is buried already.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/lazergunpewpew/IMG_4376.jpg
basswipe 08-28-2011, 06:28 AM Pretty freakin windy here now.Some pretty heavy downpours every once in awhile but nothing steady.Still early though.
Grapenuts 08-28-2011, 07:50 AM nothing at the elbow of the cape...dry and maybe 25 on the wind...8:49..think I'll go mow the lawn.
UserRemoved1 08-28-2011, 08:02 AM power flashing
armageddon
mmmmmmmm tiiiingle :hee:
likwid 08-28-2011, 08:52 AM http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/lazergunpewpew/IMG_4393.jpg
Mike P 08-28-2011, 09:08 AM Wind kicked it up a notch over the last half hour here just north of the Canal. I'd say (without any way to measure) 35-40 sustained, with gusts 50+. We had a very strong gust about 20 minutes ago that took the power out for about a second. The CPU and modem held, but I had to re-set my monitor.
I looked at a wind chart and the heaviest stuff is still ahead of us. Right now we appear to be in a 35-40 band, but there's a 55 band south. I don't know whether it'll reach us this far east. We caught a break when this made landfall inside NYC. 40-50 miles farther out on LI we'd be looking at 60 mph winds with hurricane force gusts.
JohnR 08-28-2011, 10:04 AM They are allowed to be open near me , whether they will or not is a different story. Of course just having had my heart jump started on Monday (back to normal) , liquor is not a high priority right now.
First thing I got to prepare for storm was my beer!
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