Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation.

:rotf2:

I'm glad someone else has noticed this obvious infraction of the rules.I have been informed that this individual was recently allowed to join a team with less then 8 weeks remaining to the CUP. I hope that Team Jersey Shore complains as loud as they should, they are in a good position to hold on this year and they are on the verge of being cheated out of it.

I was bummed they switched venues again,last year my best night at the canal was the night of the party.The ride back from Falmouth will suck by car...

ALl Tournaments S U C K ><><<:uhuh::uhuh:

ALl Tournaments S U C K ><><<:uhuh::uhuh:

My sentiments exactly
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ALl Tournaments S U C K


I should have married a tournament...:devil2:

I should have married a tournament...:devil2:

Lol
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If OTW can profit from letting him in, then he's in.

Their tourney, their rules, they can break them if doing so benefits them.

What Clammer said, and the same for that striper killing fish wrapper.
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Gilly ,

Ya Got Married ........ kiss that goodbye ><<lOL:love:

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up. :grins:

Wasn't he in already by himself? How would otw profit more if he is on a team.? Just asking and not being a prick as I ask myself the same question in how did he end up on a team.



If OTW can profit from letting him in, then he's in.

Their tourney, their rules, they can break them if doing so benefits them.

What Clammer said, and the same for that striper killing fish wrapper.
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OK I LOOKED ;;

JUST another reason TOURNAMENTS SUCK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUT IMO ITS a stupid move on there part ....I,ll bet there are a bunch of fisherman will tell them to stick it next year .
But the rumors I,ve heard on a proposed reduction [changing ]of bass regulations ....may signal the end of the useless killing :soon:

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up. :grins:

It's still there. Good post.

Poof!

I'm changing my affiliation to to Team Striper cuz we suck. :rotf2:

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up. :grins:

Care to share it for those of us not signed into the social network sites?

Care to share it for those of us not signed into the social network sites?
Here's Mike's quote, well put as usual:

With all due respect, if it's true that Greg Myerson was allowed to join Team Striper after not registering as a club member initially, your tournament has lost all credibility with a lot of anglers. The rule is pretty clear: Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation. I see nothing that allows an "undeclared" angler to declare an affiliation with less than a month after the tournament.

In the past, we have had a couple instances of anglers go from undeclared to Team S-B at the early part of the tournament and well before fish were weighed in. So there is some precedence. I'm sure other teams have hit people up over time too.

I guess my question would be more when this occurred. Early in the tournament I don't see an issue.

In the past, we have had a couple instances of anglers go from undeclared to Team S-B at the early part of the tournament and well before fish were weighed in. So there is some precedence. I'm sure other teams have hit people up over time too.

I guess my question would be more when this occurred. Early in the tournament I don't see an issue.

I don't know, but his earlier 61 and very high 50 aren't in the total for TS, and he's not listed as affiliated for those fish in the Angler of the Year standings.

Let's say, best case scenario, he decided to throw in with TS before he caught the record. It still sets a bad precedent. This isn't pro sports, where teams can trade up to a trade deadline. It allows for a team that's lagging in the standings to actively recruit. If someone can be unaffiliated and join a team in mid-tournament, what's to stop someone from switching teams? Or other teams from raiding other rosters for the last big push?

I don't know, but his earlier 61 and very high 50 aren't in the total for TS, and he's not listed as affiliated for those fish in the Angler of the Year standings.

Let's say, best case scenario, he decided to throw in with TS before he caught the record. It still sets a bad precedent. This isn't pro sports, where teams can trade up to a trade deadline. It allows for a team that's lagging in the standings to actively recruit. If someone can be unaffiliated and join a team in mid-tournament, what's to stop someone from switching teams? Or other teams from raiding other rosters for the last big push?


I agree - our instance was when someone went from unaffiliated to Team S-B - not switching teams. And those instances happened very early on in the tourney.

Early or late I don't see where there would be a difference. As long as it wasn't after he caught the 81. I spoke with Greg at the cup last year and he had already said he would join Team Striper this year. Apparently that was the decision he made, much to the chagrin of other teams.

I enjoy the party and talking with folks I don't get to see too often but I too think the tournament is lacking in some areas.Art, tog are showing,see you at the Eddy.

I'm changing my affiliation to to Team Striper cuz we suck. :rotf2:

:rotf2:

It appears to me that OTW has finally shot themselves dead with the Cup. This is a inexcusable. Now we will have recruiting, payoffs, etc.

Seriously, I joined the first Cup in 06 because I thought it would be like the old Schaefer Tournament that I fished in the 70s. This will be the last year they will see my money. It just has turned into a joke.:fury:

ALL tourneys don't suck... Some tourneys may suck... More like some of the people in the tourneys suck.
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It appears to me that OTW has finally shot themselves dead with the Cup. This is a inexcusable. Now we will have recruiting, payoffs, etc.



Well, Paul, we have that already, in the off-season. ;)

I'd really like to think that OTW would have a problem with guys switching sides after the fact. Going from no club to club? That's one thing, but even so, there should be a cut-off point. I don't think that anyone at OTW is debating that Greg was still unaffiliated when he weighed in his two earlier big fish. Weigh one fish in, that's it. You're committed to whatever status you had at registration.

As far as the Schaeffer Cup goes, just thinking back on the history of the Striper Cup, I don't think that a legitimate "club", as most fishermen would define a fishing club, has ever won it, and that includes us. RISAA came the closest. Anglers join established clubs for a variety of reasons, competition being only one of those.

Even if he joins a team after the fact, then anything weighed in prior to you declaring a team should not count. Only fish caught going forward

I didn't bother with the cup this year... Had fun last year, & that was enough for me... But I heard from a bunch of people last year at Striperfest that Mr. Myerson said he'd be fishing Team Striper this year, and I found it interesting that at the beginning of the contest he wasn't listed as a club affiliate. Has OTW said anything about this? Could this theoretically be something as simple as a paperwork flub?

Not trying to :stir:, just curious and trying to remain unbiased.

Armchair anglers are now telling OTW how to run their tournament; once a fish is weighed in....anything weighed prior to club afiliation...

Keep em coming,it's the nature of the beast. At least the Cap of Team Stock ASSessment was forward enough to admit his team was granted the same privelege. Albeit in a different time frame.Proof that tournaments bring out the worst in people. I have NEVER been involved in a tournament where I have not seen cheating firsthand.

Go Clammah!

Armchair anglers are now telling OTW how to run their tournament; once a fish is weighed in....anything weighed prior to club afiliation...

Keep em coming,it's the nature of the beast. At least the Cap of Team Stock ASSessment was forward enough to admit his team was granted the same privelege. Albeit in a different time frame.Proof that tournaments bring out the worst in people. I have NEVER been involved in a tournament where I have not seen cheating firsthand.

Go Clammah!


So you'll include yourself in the Armchair Anglers Symposium :hee: ?

I have never been involved in a Tournament you haven't had a quip against.

I have fished 5 in my lifetime.
The one in SoCo for the NPT club. (no quip)
The Red Top (no quip)
The Back Eddy ( no quip)
OTW, which I no longer partipate in (quips)
The Newport Club interclub (no quip)
I think you have been involved with at least three.
Nice try though.

I have fished 5 in my lifetime.
The one in SoCo for the NPT club. (no quip)
The Red Top (no quip)
The Back Eddy ( no quip)
OTW, which I no longer partipate in (quips)
The Newport Club interclub (no quip)
I think you have been involved with at least three.
Nice try though.

Then you have my most humble apologies. It gets difficult to track what you've quipped and not quipped :rotf2:

I completely agree that OTW is not to blame for the lengths people will go to win what should be a fun thing... People ruin stuff... But if you can't fish in a tourney and enjoy the hunt because you are worried what other people are doing to try to win, that's your problem..
Let em cheat... I'll sleep at night... And if you happen to beat them despite their tactics... All the sweeter... Acting(?) like a clueless goog and watching them grit their teeth while they congratulate you? Priceless...;-)
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John what is this Armchair Anglers Symposium you speak of???

Hmmm......the parallels are amazing.

http://files.sharenator.com/gu_20100326_The_Internet_Troll-s600x750-61277-580.jpg

TDF, if I am looking for lip from you I will scrape it off my zipper.

TDF, if I am looking for lip from you I will scrape it off my zipper.

first good laugh of the day! I had a toggin trip planned for this weekend..oh well. stripers are dead to me until the Sgt Potts memorial tournament and then the Back(wards) Eddy, if it's still there

TDF, if I am looking for lip from you I will scrape it off my zipper.

What makes you think I was referring to you.....unless the likeness is dead on.

Like looking in a mirror ain't it.....

John what is this Armchair Anglers Symposium you speak of???


I just made that up in jest based on the Dangler's post. Kinda catchy but the last word, starting with an S to keep the initials good, needs work.

What a JOKE

first good laugh of the day! I had a toggin trip planned for this weekend..oh well. stripers are dead to me until the Sgt Potts memorial tournament and then the Back(wards) Eddy, if it's still there

hey, can you post that fillet pic again ?!
i understand that was supposed to be on the menu.:devil2:

first good laugh of the day! I had a toggin trip planned for this weekend..oh well. stripers are dead to me until the Sgt Potts memorial tournament and then the Back(wards) Eddy, if it's still there

Let us know when the Sgt Potts tourney is so we can get some word out. He was that police officer doing reserve duty when killed on duty in Iraq, right?

Wasn't he in already by himself? How would otw profit more if he is on a team.? Just asking and not being a prick as I ask myself the same question in how did he end up on a team.




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Just saying that nothing is out of the realm of possibility when it comes to OTW acting in its own best interest.
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Let us know when the Sgt Potts tourney is so we can get some word out. He was that police officer doing reserve duty when killed on duty in Iraq, right?

SSG Potts Tournament - Aquidneck Island Striper Team (http://www.aistriperteam.com/ssgpottstournament.htm)

John nice yoke, You may have engaged in some sort of mind gamemanship, but it does have a nice ring to it. Perhaps you might want to explore that to another level .

Just think, perhaps you may have started another discussion point where some value could come of it. Just speaking out loud

John nice yoke, You may have engaged in some sort of mind gamemanship, but it does have a nice ring to it. Perhaps you might want to explore that to another level .

Just think, perhaps you may have started another discussion point where some value could come of it. Just speaking out loud

Nothing more than a wink-wink-nudge-nudge moment...

No

OTW is claiming that he signed up for team striper over a month ago

No

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:biglaugh:

OTW is claiming that he signed up for team striper over a month ago

why would OTW care either way whether Meyerson's fish was weighed for a team or not?...

why would OTW allow someone not identifying themselves with a particular team prior to catching a fish to simply declare a team after or in conjunction with submitting the weight slip and invite that kind of scrutiny from something that would be very dubious?

I don't know when Meyerson declared that he would be fishing for a team but it sure doesn't make any sense to me that he somehow decided after the fact to weigh it for Team Striper and OTW somehow accepted that...

their, OTW's, "claim" seems to make the most sense of anything I've heard...don't know if it is right or wrong but they've indicated that there is plenty of precedence for people joining teams in mid-season

seems that the people that have "no interest" or involvement in the Cup are the most worked up about all of this...

seems that the people that have "no interest" or involvement in the Cup are the most worked up about all of this... :rotf2:

Is it going to really matter when Team S-B members are all catching 50s this weekend? Im trying like hell...
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It appears to me that OTW has finally shot themselves dead with the Cup. This is a inexcusable. Now we will have recruiting, payoffs, etc.

Seriously, I joined the first Cup in 06 because I thought it would be like the old Schaefer Tournament that I fished in the 70s. This will be the last year they will see my money. It just has turned into a joke.:fury:

IT is becoming like the old Schaefer Tourney. 1) Commercial fishermen/charter captains dominated the Schaefer. 2) Teams openly recruited & re-aligned (see history of Sacco, NJ Red Devils
and a few others) 3) There was constant adjustment of rules in response to never ending complaints and controversies.

I think OTW is doing a good job.

When ever one operates a tournment you will almost find some controversy.

Rules are only inplace to those that follow them, because every rule will get tested at some point, no matter how hard the sponcers attempt to prevent problems some one will find the loop hole and challenge them.

In most instances most tournements will have those that really do not care how they get the top prize, just as long as they are the ones to get it.

One needs to ask the question, how can recreational entries ever equal those that commercially fish for a living ?? No matter what, the advantage will always go to the charter boats who fish for a living. It goes with out saying that in some fields those that charter for a living are considered to be commercial fishermen, as they are not pure recreationally oriented.

It also speaks to why the charter boats support these types of events, it provides a braggin point if and when there boat is under consideration for hire.
We can talk about the sport of fishing from two view points, commercially and recreationally, but overall the advantage for weighing in a large fish, goes to the charter fleet and not those land bound from any beach front. I understand that OTW has attempted to correct this disparity, so do we really still have a disadvantge fishing from a land bound beach front????

All teams should be declared and made public before any fish is ever weighed in under any team name. Was a list ever publically posted any where that stated all the teams and its members??? By making such a list publically available it takes away the suspect illegal entry from being counted in the grand scheme of
prizes and makes the tournement more honest for every one concerned.

I was unable to find such a list posted, is there one, so that every one knows that XZ team has 13 members and these are there names??

This should be announced prior to the start and once the tournement has started no one else can now claim to be part of Xz team and weigh in a fish that has no right to be weighed in under that name.