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Joe
09-24-2011, 08:05 PM
Great movie, on so many levels.

bart
09-24-2011, 08:31 PM
Joooooe. Have to check it out, everyone is saying the same thing..

Joe
09-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Better than the book. That does not happen very often. The all-or-nothing school of thought that most athletes prescribe to, is shown to be flawed. Partial victories, compromises, are what constitute real life. Very uplifting and positive. The scene with the quirked out, brilliant Red Sox owner, John Henry, is priceless.

american spirit
01-24-2012, 12:48 PM
just watched on netflix. good movie. i didn't know boston adopted that idea and won the world series shortly after. is that true?

The Dad Fisherman
01-24-2012, 01:19 PM
Bill James.....they did a spot on 60 minutes on this guy....all statistics, re-wrote how to build a team.

Bill James - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_James)

Joe
01-24-2012, 01:41 PM
John Henry was one of the original subscribers to the first Bill James Abstract. Which was a bound xerox book of cryptic statistics for the first issues.
James took every long-held baseball player evaluation belief and tested it against new statistics some of which were his own, and some of which were other people's, and just about everything the old scouts and baseball men prescribed to was found to be critically flawed when compared to data.
John Henry is a global currency trader. He is a "news" trader. He interprets global events and has algorithms that either support or deny what people predict will happen. He replaces prejudgements with findings that can be supported by data, and finds values (bargains) in the marketplace. He's made billions based upon this theory and is the 77th richest person in the country.
My favorite John Henry quote is, "To the extent that you can remove bias, and replace it with data, you gain an advantage."
Jamesian statistics for player evaluations no longer give a club an advantage, because every GM now uses them.

Slingah
01-28-2012, 06:26 PM
great movie....

Joe
01-28-2012, 09:37 PM
For a pretty boy, that Brad Pitt can act. He can convincingly pull off even the most subtle expressions of emotion. So many male actors really just play themselves and have a very limited repertoire of expression, and when they attempt to step outside of the usual, it's not at all convincing.

The Dad Fisherman
01-30-2012, 06:18 AM
Ever see "Snatch" (the Movie)....he was awesome in that flick. He's actually been in quite a lot of different non-main stream movies and really been awesome.

Great in 12 Monkeys as well

Joe
01-31-2012, 04:05 PM
Saw Twelve Monkeys, and Kalifornia - with that psycho, Juliette Lewis, when she was trailer-park hot.

redlite
02-07-2012, 11:20 AM
Agreed real good movie