Tommy John surgery... One way to get him out of the rotation. So two high profile signings will have had TJ surgery this season. Not sure I want to see either Lackey or DiceK back.

The team ERA just went down three points

That's great news!!
DiceK and Lackey, both should be traded before their arms even heal.

I hope Bucholz' back is in shape be the beginning of the season. Hopefully he'll spend some time in AZ training in the off season.

I heard the injury was caused from "bending his elbow" too much in the dugout between starts???:cheers2:

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Theo under contract for 1 more year ?
Is so Sox should have stood their ground and demanded if the Cubs wanted Theo they had to take Lackey and or Dice K to get him.
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Lackey for Zambrano was talk show fodder. Most clubs will allow an employee to leave if they are getting a higher position regardless of contractual status. Compensation is eventually agreed upon,in this case the commish may aid in settling the level of compensation.

Hearing there is a clause in his contract that prohibits Lackey from collecting the remainder of his contract if he suffers an injury?? Not sure if thats a fact but it was on the radio this am??

Kevin Millar for manager!

I'm pretty sure that Dice K is off the books this year. He'll be driving fans of some other team nuts next season.

It's a shame that he'll be able to use this as an excuse, but it doesn't change his piss poor attitude.

That's great news!!
DiceK and Lackey, both should be traded before their arms even heal.



Great idea---now, what GM who isn't on his way to a psych ward would trade anything more valuable than a dozen baseballs for a pitcher with an inflated contract having TJ surgery? :rotf2:

Hearing there is a clause in his contract that prohibits Lackey from collecting the remainder of his contract if he suffers an injury?? Not sure if thats a fact but it was on the radio this am??

Yes and no. Yes, there is a clause that gives the Sox the option to renew his contract at the MLB minimum salary, if he misses a "significant" amount of time due to a "pre-existing injury".

That doesn't even kick in until his option year---2015.

And good luck trying to establish that it was a "pre-existing" injury at the time he signed his deal with the Sox. The guy pitched 215 innings in 2010, and 160 innings in 2011.

Kevin Millar for manager!

Yea, bring back the Idiots! I can just see it now everybody having long hair and doing shots of whiskey!:buds: He could hire Damon as bench coach and Manny as hitting coach!:biglaugh:

what GM who isn't on his way to a psych ward would trade anything more valuable than a dozen baseballs for a pitcher with an inflated contract having TJ surgery? :rotf2:

Omar Minaya???.........Oh Yeah, that Psych Ward thing :hihi:

Great idea---now, what GM who isn't on his way to a psych ward would trade anything more valuable than a dozen baseballs for a pitcher with an inflated contract having TJ surgery? :rotf2:

Theo?

Omar Minaya???.........Oh Yeah, that Psych Ward thing :hihi:

Minaya got canned after 2010, thankfully, but that's right up his alley.

I had never heard about bad behavior from Lackey when he was with the Angels. Like the antics when the defense didn't catch balls that were crushed, and the beer-drinking thing - what the hell.
I don't think he liked not being the number one guy in the rotation - ego bruise. Mike Scioscia, well, when you start turning out your own brand of player - you're a force. He intimidates players into professionalism and he speaks Spanish.
Lackey's got that slack-jaw jock look about him. Still, the post-TJ surgery stats show that the surgery usually results in improved performance. If he can grind out 200 innings as a #4 - he's a pretty good #4. It's too bad they need a hard ass rah-rah guy to coach, they should be beyond needing that with the #2 payroll. I like the Joe Madden type. Wonder what Mike Lowell is up to?

I like Joe Madden too. And Joe is right, as much as I despise Lackey, TJ surgery usually makes your arm better than you could've ever imagined...