Anyone else think this POS should do the world a favor and put the barrel of a loaded shot gun in his mouth and pull the damn trigger !

YES, He's lost the right to live.

POS
death is too good for him
ruined lives
the whole story is horrible

that would be the easy way out. he should be tortured for the rest of his life, just like his victims will be....

Very sad for all of us.
Paterno has to leave as does anyone "who" knew what was going on
Penn state President all the way down ..... a.s.a.p
just to get this out of the way quick ,,

Very sad

If true that is a very sad way for Paterno to go out...

He is EXACTLY what the death penalty was designed for.

Very sad for all of us.
Paterno has to leave as does anyone "who" knew what was going on
Penn state President all the way down ..... a.s.a.p


{{{{just to get this out of the way quick ,, }}}}



Very sad

yes sad, and yes remove them all

BUT

don't get this out of the way any time soon.
I think the more this is publicized, the more people in the future will be less apt to sweep it under the rug.

Shame on them

the damage abuse causes needs to be addressed and victims should be given what they need to move past this.

Stop this abuse now, people need to speak up

preying on kids is just plain disgusting
in the old days they'd be stoned to death in the street and rightly so

this is a disgrace. Joe P wanted to have his regular weekly press conference to talk about Nebraska this Saturday.

He can't have all his faculties anymore. He is dillusional.

This could be the result of his 50 year reign at PSU. People get too comfy with the power and sooner or later abuse it.

If I could ask Joe 1 question: If Sandusky was pushing drugs at his players and the AD did nothing, would he have reported the pusher to the police?

I heard the Board of trustees will dismiss the PSU president. Joe can't possibly think he is more important than him?

Sorry Slip
{{{{just to get this out of the way quick ,, }}}}

Was ment for For Penn State
Not for the POS

the single thing that made me say

you gotta be fuggin kiddin me


was how he had locker room access written
into his contract.... so he could continue his
pedophile way of life....

so it's not just him.... as i feel bad for the school
and the kids whose lives he has severely damaged

but the staff....
and those that would allow him that provision
have to be brought to justice as well

even if they Never laid a single finger tip on a kid
they have a supporting role in all of this
that is the ice berg hiding beneath the waters....

but this crime... of sexually abusing children
imho opinion has never EVER had sufficient penalties
for the destructiveness of the crime on society .

out of all of this....that has to change

Sandusky; villian, perp, pervert, suspect, target of Grand Jury investigation

The act; totally unacceptable in society

Cover up; TBD, who knew, process, someone dropped the ball

Trustees; in the dark, will act "quickly", try to distance themselves, fewer options by the day

Cost; Don't forget the kids.. first and foremost

Joe P; great philanthropist, has helped many non athletes pay for school, should have already retired, age affecting decisions, apparently fumbled this one

Penn State football; the golden goose...around which decisions were made regarding how to "handle" this without tarnishing its image

Barney Frank said whats the big deal and Backs him up !!
Also said he can get a great loan rate for him after he buys his home for pennies on the dollar at auction :)

I know Peter





what about Sen. Spector? is he supporting this

it's a nightmare

I can't believe it went on and continued so long

UPDATE : BaRNeY called back and said the following :

Adoption was a mistake (5 boys) , should have been foster parents and been paid by the state


sick-0

I heard the Board of trustees will dismiss the PSU president. Joe can't possibly think he is more important than him?

Of course he can. Because the reality of the situation is that at the big-time football powerhouses, "Coach" IS more important than the president of the university.

Of course he can. Because the reality of the situation is that at the big-time football powerhouses, "Coach" IS more important than the president of the university.

Yup. He brought them their golden goose.... Even at the collegiate level, nevermind the pros, football is a dirty business.

Put him in jail for life, if he lives that long

Put him in jail for life, if he lives that long

Say what?Life in prison?

Death is the ONLY solution for a child molestor.

Say what?Life in prison?

Death is the ONLY solution for a child molestor.

No, let him be the abused one for life!

No, let him be the abused one for life!

Not in this day and age.IT will see 23 in a cell and 1 in isolation outside the cell.Why waste the money on keeping IT alive.KILL IT!

Not in this day and age.IT will see 23 in a cell and 1 in isolation outside the cell.Why waste the money on keeping IT alive.KILL IT!

Death is too easy but unfortunately I don't think he'll get it. He'll be as above for until someone kills him for us

He won't get the Death Penalty....its not a capital crime...unfortunately. he'll never see the outside again. he'll get to be Bubba's Bitch for a few years and then someone will shiv him while he's cleaning the $hitter

OK,
They vote Joe out last night , fired with the Pres :)
Kid's get word and start flipping over a TV truck ? WTF are they thinking!
Now he will not be on the football field this sat , as he should NOT Be ,
I just hope that people do not get hurt in the mist of all this stuff .........

This is what is considered higher education ?
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I just read the linked Grand Jury Report and I am not sure how much Joe Paterno is at fault at levels of reporting. He reported things to his superiors but did he report enough or accurately enough - that will be determined. Clearly there will be more info eventually to make that call.

Report: Grand Jury Report on Jerry Sandusky - Document - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/11/06/sports/ncaafootball/20111106-pennstate-document.html)

I read this with alternating points of WTF? and Rage and disgust.

Not enough heads have rolled on this one and certainly not soon enough. Read about the Second Mile organization and the implications. Heads need to roll there as well as they had to know.

Sandusky is evil.

Paterno and Sandusky were tied to the hip for years. Sandusky played for him as a Linebacker and continued as a coach. Paterno knew what was going on. Coaches at Penn State pretty much are lifers. He knew about it and that is why Paterno did a 180 before the 1999 season and decided that Sandusky wouldn't be his successor. Sandusky left but still held youth football camps at Penn State. What makes this whole thing really bad for Paterno is that when Mike McQueary (who was a grad assistant in 2002 and caught Sandusky in the act with a 10 year old in the shower after a football camp at Penn State) went to Paterno, nothing was really done. Ask yourself what you would have done if you were Paterno? Paterno gave McQueary a coaching job (do you think maybe to keep his mouth shut?). Even worse is the outcome of the investigation was that Sandusky WASN’T banned from campus or the Penn State athletic facilities, he was only barred from bringing children onto campus. (mind boggling) Paterno knew it and he decided to ignore the reports and evidence to protect the reputation of Penn State. That decision showed that he could have cared less about those kids The local and state police should have been notified. The fact that the Penn State police did the investigation is a joke. They can’t police themselves. The whole thing was a cover up and Paterno is as dirty with the rest of them. Read the following from a New York newspaper.

On Friday, March 1, 2002, in an episode that those close to McQueary say left him shocked and confused — and that would return to haunt his life and the fortunes of his university years later — he entered the locker room in Penn State’s Lasch Football Building at about 9:30 p.m. to put a new pair of shoes in his locker and pick up some recruiting tapes, according to the report of the grand jury that investigated the allegations involving Sandusky. Coaches commonly keep late hours but not so much in the off-season months, like March. Besides, the lights were not on in the offices, but toward the locker room. That is not usual. And a shower was running.
According to the report, McQueary heard “rhythmic, slapping sounds,” which he believed to be those of sexual activity. He walked to his locker, opened it and put his sneakers inside. He then turned his head and looked into the shower.
He has said under oath that he saw Sandusky raping what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy. He immediately left, met with his father and determined he would report the incident to Paterno, according to prosecutors. A person familiar with his account said McQueary did not spare the details when he met with Paterno. Nor did he when he met with the university’s athletic director and another senior administrator, the man in charge of Penn State’s campus police.
Weeks later, according to state prosecutors, those officials told McQueary that Sandusky had been barred from bringing children onto campus.

Piscator - you are right. Even if Paterno reported to his "bosses" as he was supposed to, if the PSU admin covered it up he probably should have gone to the state police / youth services. In the end, nothing here was acceptable.

As a father part of me wonders why Sandusky was not beaten up prior to being reported to authorities.

I just read the linked Grand Jury Report and I am not sure how much Joe Paterno is at fault at levels of reporting.

He's not, even the Police stated he did the legally right thing....right now the argument is whether he did the Morally right thing by making sure he followed up on it instead of just leaving it alone.

it was reported to the head of the athletics department and the head of the Campus police....they sat on it. Now when Joe saw that they sat on it...should he have taken it further up the chain or called the police? that is where the Morally right comes into play. He didn't do anything and that was wrong...and that is why he was fired.

I think McQueary is more Guilty than Joe and if he is still there should be shown the door also....he actually witnessed it and was OK w/ the whole "Ahh, we told him he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore" That's a serious WTF moment if there ever was one. Why didn't he persue it w/ the police either.

to many people screwed the pooch on this one

Anybody involved is going bye bye...the university is in severe damage control right now.

I have a cabin about 15 miles east of Penn State. Besides Rhody that is my favorite part of the country and I hold it dear to my heart. I have, since I started watching sports, been a huge Penn St. fan. Joe Pa has always been Penn St. to me. Penn St. has the biggest following of anything in P.A.. Not the steelers, eagles, flyers , penguins, pirates or phillies can even come close, in the least. That being said, who the crap is Joe Pa to not bring this to the forefront of everything when this happened? If my best friend did this, I would report it to the highest authority possible after I got done beating the snot out of him. Joe Pa is Penn State's face and he was worried about tarnishing his own legacy. What urkes me the most out of this is that he can look at anyone and say he feels for the victims, say a prayer for the victims, when he had the chance to make it as right as could be made for said victims. I am glad they fired him, the frigan nerve to say he is gonna coach this last home game, once again he brushed it off. If that isn't a god complex what is. This also gives life to the flavor of ice cream at the creamery there, Peachy paterno. What an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I will continue to be a Penn State fan but who knows what this is going to do to the school. This is where we find out what community can mean.Unfortunately, it is not starting off well in my opinion. These kids are backing a name and not looking at what they should be considering. This has been all wrong since the act took place. These kids are just reacting to be part of something and I really hope they smarten up instead of sticking up for a coward, which is really hard for me to say. There is a bronze statue in front of Beaver Stadium of Joe Pa and in the wall behind him is a vast number of football players that look to be following him onto a field. I think that should be removed and the pics of have of me and that statue will be destroyed. Unfortunately the recruits are already recanting their commitments to PSU and this university is in trouble for the foreseeable future. They need a high profile coach to come in there and save them, as well as denounce the winningest coach. Tough challenge

Flipping the tv truck...although a huge wreckless act in itself
launches this issue right into the political fray
even more than it was already
which in their mind
was a caculated
Move.

As I understand it , Paterno reported it to the school admins and the Chief of Campus security. From there , it seems to me the guy who witnessed it should have gone to the Police. Now maybe Paterno should have done more but the guy who saw it happen should have been at the police station in 10 minutes after he saw it.

As I understand it , Paterno reported it to the school admins and the Chief of Campus security. From there , it seems to me the guy who witnessed it should have gone to the Police. Now maybe Paterno should have done more but the guy who saw it happen should have been at the police station in 10 minutes after he saw it.

the outcome of the investigation was that Sandusky WASN’T banned from campus or the Penn State athletic facilities, he was only barred from bringing children onto campus.

If Paterno had a sack, he wounldn't went along with the above. He knew it, went along with it, helped cover it up and hoped it went away. He has more power there than School Admins and the Chief of Campus Security combined. I agree McQueary should have gone to Police too but that doesn't change anything about Paterno.

He's not, even the Police stated he did the legally right thing....right now the argument is whether he did the Morally right thing by making sure he followed up on it instead of just leaving it alone.

it was reported to the head of the athletics department and the head of the Campus police....they sat on it. Now when Joe saw that they sat on it...should he have taken it further up the chain or called the police? that is where the Morally right comes into play. He didn't do anything and that was wrong...and that is why he was fired.

I think McQueary is more Guilty than Joe and if he is still there should be shown the door also....he actually witnessed it and was OK w/ the whole "Ahh, we told him he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore" That's a serious WTF moment if there ever was one. Why didn't he persue it w/ the police either.

to many people screwed the pooch on this one

Anybody involved is going bye bye...the university is in severe damage control right now.

Did you ever stop to consider that the reason the campus cops, the AD, and possibly even the university's president "sat on it" was because Paterno told them to sit on it?

I did. And I'll go you one better. I'd be willing to make a small wager on the fact that the reason the DA dropped that 1999 investigation without charging Sandusky---who was caught on tape by the investigating detective basically admitting what he did--was because Paterno, either personally or through his influence with the PSU administration, told the DA to squelch it.

You're being very naive if you think that the AD, the campus cops, and even PSU's president were Paterno's "superiors" out there. Yes, in theory they were. In practice, Joe ran PSU.

If they can prove he was part of actively covering things up then he's part of a criminal conspiracy. My guess is he reported it to the powrrs above him and then waited to see what happened. Everything he knew was hearsay. Its the guy who saw it first hand that should have been at the police station , not the AD office , not the coaches office , not the school admins. He should have gone to the police.

I honestly don't think a football coach , no matter how iconic , is resonsible for pushing the prosecution of a criminal based on hearsay. Once he bumps it up , its up to the school officials , particularly the president and the Security Chief to pursue it further. Outside the whole fact that it happened at PSU , the eye witness is the guy who didn't do what was right and his failure to act shouldn't fall on Paterno just cause he was the most famous guy.

I also think justice would have been served if Paterna had been given the word that he must retire "now". The same result happens but he gets to save a little respect vs the firing which implicates him in the crime IMO.

I'm not being naive...and I'm not sticking up for Joe. Like I said....legally he did everything he was supposed to do (not trying to argue law w/ you...I'd get my azz handed to me) he's gone because Morally he didn't do the right thing...he figured he was covered legally so nothing could happen to him...he didn't count on the Moral Issues.

And i think everbody that heard/knew anything about it should be hung out to dry too...including the DA and anyone in the police department

I know Joe and Co. run that town...absolutely.

There are some crimes for which I believe the offenders should be hung by the neck until they stop kicking. These guys deserve this fate.

How in the hell was McQueary allowed to stay on the staff with the new head coach? This whole story is completey effed up.

If they can prove he was part of actively covering things up then he's part of a criminal conspiracy. My guess is he reported it to the powrrs above him and then waited to see what happened. Everything he knew was hearsay. Its the guy who saw it first hand that should have been at the police station , not the AD office , not the coaches office , not the school admins. He should have gone to the police.

I honestly don't think a football coach , no matter how iconic , is resonsible for pushing the prosecution of a criminal based on hearsay. Once he bumps it up , its up to the school officials , particularly the president and the Security Chief to pursue it further. Outside the whole fact that it happened at PSU , the eye witness is the guy who didn't do what was right and his failure to act shouldn't fall on Paterno just cause he was the most famous guy.

I also think justice would have been served if Paterna had been given the word that he must retire "now". The same result happens but he gets to save a little respect vs the firing which implicates him in the crime IMO.

Mike--in a place like Penn State, there are no "powers above him". Joe Paterno was the Carlo Gambino of State College, PA. You're indulging him in "passing the buck". And missing what really went on out there, for years.

You have to follow the trail back to the beginning, and start by reading the Grand Jury report. Sandusky was under investigation for child molestation in 1998. Up until that point, he was considered one of the hottest head coaching prospects in all of college football, Paterno's sure-fire successor if Joe ever retired, and if not, a leading candidate for any head coaching job in the country. He was the LB coach and defensive co-ordinator at a program known as "Linebacker U". Yet, in 1999, Paterno tells him that he'll "never" be the head coach, and shortly thereafter, he "retires" at the age of 55, prime coaching years, AND IS OFFERED NO OTHER JOB AT ANY PROGRAM ANYWHERE IN THE US!! He goes from being everyone's hottest HC prospect to a pariah. And shortly after that, the DA out there claims that the charges against Sandusky are "unfounded" despite the fact that the investigating detective has an audio tape of him tearfully apologizing to the victim's mother and telling her what a scuzzbucket he is.

An 8 year old can play this connect the dots game. The fix was put in. Sandusky retires (keeping emeritus status on the faculty, a campus office, access to the university website and all campus facilities), and in return, the allegations get swept under the rug. And 3 years later, a grad assistant comes to Paterno upset, and reports seeing Sandusky bungholing a 10 year old kid in the shower? Leaving aside the fact that this POS himself should have laid Sandusky out on the floor of that shower and dragged the kid to safety, he tells Paterno this the next day, and you think that it's peachy swell that he "reported this to his (mythical) superiors"?

I don't think its "peachy swell" but I do think the bulk of the blame falls elsewhere and that Paterno should have been instructed to retire , not get the boot.

Now I admit I'm not aware of all the upstream stuff you mentioned before the shower incident was witnessed. Maybe there is a "bachground" or "coverup" that Paterno was a part of that I don't know the details of. If that can be proven then I would think he's in some way on the hotseat for criminal charges. That hasn't happened yet.

My first reaction was , as you mention, why didn't the witness stop what was happening immediately by dragging the kid away from Sandusky and then go directly to the police.

I used to travel through State College , PA on a regular basis. It is its own little world and yes Paterno is God there. I still think the Actual witness first , PSU Pres second and the Security Guy third are the ones who should have exposed Sandusky but as you say , maybe "god" didn't want that. ??

Piscator - you are right. Even if Paterno reported to his "bosses" as he was supposed to, if the PSU admin covered it up he probably should have gone to the state police / youth services. In the end, nothing here was acceptable.

As a father part of me wonders why Sandusky was not beaten up prior to being reported to authorities.

Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

Second Mile foundation will have their Not for profit status yanked by IRS after their inevitable investigation is done, another domino to fall.

I really thought the Board could have made a ballsy statement by saying PSU will finish its regular season schedule and decline a Big 10 Championship game and bowl invite.

They still cover that $5-10 million bowl game so they haven't shown true remorse IMO. This could still happen. It would be another big pill to swallow especially with the lawsuits they are facing

This is getting interesting. Paterno supposedly now has retained a criminal defense attorney. He could be in trouble if he lied to the grand jury.
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The Penn State Football program generates ~$70,000,000 in revenue each year for the school (yup, $70 Million every year). It was in everyones best interest (including Paterno) to cover this whole thing up and hope it went away.............

The Penn State Football program generates ~$70,000,000 in revenue each year for the school (yup, $70 Million every year). It was in everyones best interest (including Paterno) to cover this whole thing up and hope it went away.............

They are going to need that 70 million now once the law suits start piling up !
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Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

That is the sickest part of what I am afraid we are going to see revealed.... Some big names on their different boards, some of whom were not aware they were even on the boards.

Statement from Lou Holtz - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214183/statement-lou-holtz)

the DA that indicted Sandusky the first time also 'disappeared' mysteriously

It's going to be a total cluster when it all comes out. I willing to say that many people knew what was up and cast a blind eye in the name of Nittany Lion football.

I am disgusted by my alma mater.

That is the sickest part of what I am afraid we are going to see revealed.... Some big names on their different boards, some of whom were not aware they were even on the boards.

Statement from Lou Holtz - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214183/statement-lou-holtz)

All of these charitable foundations have big names on their "advisory" boards, and in almost every case, all they're doing is lending their names to the organizations. They rarely, if ever, take part in running things, or even do anything more than lend their names.

Yup, Like Mike P says - It looks really good for the Organization and the individual to be involved with each other.

Then it hits the fan, and you are automatically associated with it.

Lou Holtz wouldn't be associated with a coverup. I still can't believe Paterno was so stupid.

Joe Pa gave up his repuation for his best friend. Some would say Honorable - I say Stupid.

As the student body president said, the eyes of the world are on PSU. Therefor, I believe, and support, anyone that had knowledge of this will be prosecuted criminally and civilly. I said it here earlier and will say it again, Joe Pa is Penn St.(practically Pennsylvania), nothing happens w/ or w/o his say so. Bottom line is, there were many ppl that knew about it and there was not enough done about it. No excuses and no preferential treatment. Everyone must go down for this horrific act.

As the student body president said, the eyes of the world are on PSU. Therefor, I believe, and support, anyone that had knowledge of this will be prosecuted criminally and civilly. I said it here earlier and will say it again, Joe Pa is Penn St.(practically Pennsylvania), nothing happens w/ or w/o his say so. Bottom line is, there were many ppl that knew about it and there was not enough done about it. No excuses and no preferential treatment. Everyone must go down for this horrific act.

Having knowledge of a crime, and not reporting it, isn't a crime unless the person in question is a mandated reporter. It would be nice if everyone who looked the other way could go to prison, but the law doesn't allow for it. There would have to be evidence of a cover-up, or using influence to cause the case to be dropped. Obstruction of justice like activity. My guess is that they're investigating that possibility as we speak, and that's what Paterno has retained the services of a top criminal defense attorney.