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Mr. Sandman 02-04-2012, 10:02 AM Maybe I missed the thread but I see Toby is the new managing editor. Congrats and best of luck with that !
That has got to be a difficulty job getting that out every week. I hope it does not interfere too much with fishing.
Clammer 02-04-2012, 12:46 PM Yep, I wished him luck o facebook ><><<:fishin:
GattaFish 02-04-2012, 01:29 PM I thought is was Bi-weekly,,,?? weekly,,, Yikes....
Mr. Sandman 02-04-2012, 02:14 PM whats facebook?
Rappin Mikey 02-04-2012, 02:16 PM They picked the right guy at least
agsurfr 02-04-2012, 02:20 PM Weekly for certain.
I'm guessing not much can interfere with Toby's fishing. He seems very excited and happy about the position. I'm sure he will do well, not many folks are more passionate about the subject.
Clammer 02-04-2012, 05:20 PM news to me / is that he,s s a free diver // that must be cool ><><>
RickBomba 02-04-2012, 05:22 PM Wow...now three friends have had the title. Break a leg, Toby. Hope to see you next week!
chefchris401 02-04-2012, 06:48 PM Congrats to Toby, hopefully he can bring some good content to the magazine.
It's fallen way Off the last few years. Love reading the same articles every other week by a different author.
I would rather see it be a monthly magazine with good content than a weekly mag with maybe one article that's readable or useable.
Sorry for the rant.
Congrats to Toby and I'd love to see some more surf fishing articles
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Timely reports, and a big newsstand presence (Stop & Shop, particularly). I think, are NEF strong suits. Which is not a criticism of the articles. I just think the impetus to buy it is more because of the timely reports and the fact that it is highly visible.
If you've been fishing for a while, week old data is very valuable, when contrasted to month old data. If the fish were in one spot last week, and if you've been at it ten years, you can make a fairly accurate prediction as to where they will be next. And your b.s. meter is in tune as to which shops and people are more trustworthy than others. It's no secret that striper movement throughout normal seasons approaches a paint-by-numbers game of hop-scotch.
Joe is right. The reports have always been a big selling point. I don't think many realize just how difficult it is to get freelance writers to write stuff and do it on a deadline. I'm a writer and I cringe when I think about how much content Toby needs to arrange/edit on a WEEKLY BASIS. My hats off to him in this very challenging position.
DZ
chefchris401 02-05-2012, 08:16 AM I do like the weekly reports and like joe said its a good way to track the fish and make a game plan.
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Rob Rockcrawler 02-05-2012, 09:28 AM I let my subscription lapse this past year. While waiting in line at the gas station i flip through the reports. I check them from a few shops and set it down, if an article catches my eye i will buy it. There are some good articles in it. I feel that when you have been fishing for a while that articles really need to be good to learn something from them. I enjoy the articles about fisheries management. I dont know Toby but i have read a bunch of his stuff in the past and was pleased to see him on board at the Fisherman. Good luck.
Clammer 02-05-2012, 09:44 AM RR
Your just a cheap B astard . <<<< a way with words ><><><><
50 issues for approx $27.00 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Oh BTW ...your not alone , I know a couple of other fisherman that don,t subscribe to this mag or the other bigger local one .
That,s just plain makes no sense // If you get one lead or one tip or one good read .. A #^&#^&#^&#^&in year .its cheap money .
you all will think nothing of buying a dozen eels & then fising them ///even when there are bluefish around .
IMO ......... Charlies Soares articles alone are worth the price of admission :buds:
Just think - if you didn't get The Fisherman mag back in 1982 you would have missed this:
Excerpt from "The Snowstorm Blitz"
November 25, 1982, Top of the Dock, Narragansett, RI – "The big news this week comes from Block Island. The guys in boats and those on the beach were really into impressive numbers of bass last week. An average night for the regulars was 6-7 fish in the high 30s and low 40s. Andy Lemar had fish of 51, 50.5, 45, 41, 39, and 36. These were on eels and plugs."
Wakefield Arms, RI – "Block Island has been turning out some decent bass…. one customer took eight fish last Wednesday for a total of 300 pounds; all on Rebels."
Elmwood Sport Shop, RI – "The guys at Block Island finally got into some heavy action last week. A couple of regulars reported a pair of fish over 50 and another 15 all better than 30 pounds."
December 9, 1982, Block Island – "The bass run made it into December. Joe Fallon said there hasn't been many fish but those taken were all good ones. Plenty of straightened hooks and lost fish. Rebels are tops. Tops all week was Steve Smith's 57.8 pounder".
Wakefield Arms, RI – "Sharp shooters still taking bass at Block. Rumor has it that some anglers had upwards of 1200 pounds in a single night. Every fish mentioned was in the 30s and 40s."
December 16, 1982, Block Island – "Bass fishermen hooked and lost a tremendous number of fish this past week. There was action every night until the storm hit. All were big fish. Nothing but 30s and 40s and all on Rebels. Jon Grant had 5 keepers last week, the largest a 46. Steve Smith took a like number including a 46 and a 58."
Swimmer 02-05-2012, 02:15 PM news to me / is that he,s s a free diver // that must be cool ><><>
I use to dive for free as well. Then I got married.:devil2:
piemma 02-05-2012, 02:58 PM Toby's a good guy and a good fisherman. We should support him as he's been on this board for a long time.
agsurfr 02-05-2012, 03:15 PM Clammer--I'm with you about Charlie Soares. I'm a big fan and will always read anything he writes.
Toby is a serious, methodical and thoughtful angler. I think he's capable of producing a very useful product.
Clammer 02-05-2012, 04:01 PM sometimes because of the waves of FAT .I have to dep dive ><><<<>:love:
Mr. Sandman 02-05-2012, 04:17 PM Two things they should consider to make the publication more current
1) Consider an electronic form of subscription ( more timely and saving on mailing and more green plus additional ad rev)
2) Allow for some way to dig up back articles. You guys have published some great ones over the years. Basically, they are gone forever if they can not be easily retrieved. No one wants a stack of old fishermen weekly's that can't be searched) Allow for back searches and then charge for the download. (added rev) I know the older editions are not digitized, but: a) this can be done as a one time expense b) you need to start keeping everything from here on out digitized.
For example: it would be great if you could search for "Tog Buzzards Bay" and see the title and brief segment of every article that was ever written on this subject. Then charge for the download of the full article(s).
You could then actually monetize the hidden value of these past articles... charging for each download....over and over forever.
(IMO most fishermen like to peruse this thing seasonally usually while sitting on the can on a Friday to get the buzz for the weekends fishing activities. This is still a stone age kind of operation and (again MO which is worth the same as the the paper quality of the mag) will cause it's eventual demise from the current Facebook generation who doesn't read anything written on paper.
How about an app? to get reports/articles/searches.
Sorry, just brain storming. I suspect why nothing changes with the fishermen is that the people who work there are very involved and all very busy just trying to get the next paper edition complete and secure advertisers and no one has the time to work on this massive project like this. Also I get the feeling that the people at the top really don't want any change.
tlapinski 02-05-2012, 04:44 PM I want to start off by saying thanks to everyone for the well wishes. I am very excited about this new endeavor. I figure after 8+ years at my last job (paralegal), 9+ at the prior job (truck driver) and not really going anywhere, this was the right time to move onto something new. I have been at the helm for 3 weeks now, and it has been an eye opening experience to say the least. I have a ton of respect for those that came before me (Tim, Zach & Dave) in the Mystic office and plan to keep up the high standards that I have come to expect from the magazine as a long time reader and subscriber. I am really looking forward to the new opportunities the position will afford me as I will be taking a crash course in many new styles of fishing and target species that I just didn't previously have time for.
Sandman - Stay tuned for some much needed, and long overdue digital options from the magazine shortly. That was one thing I was very happy to find out was already in the works.
If anyone has any ideas, suggestions, critisisms or anything else of the magazine and/or the job I am doing, I want to hear them all. I really want to bring some new blood to the magazine too, so I encourage anyone that has ever thought about writing to email me at tlapinski@thefisherman.com.
stripermaineiac 02-05-2012, 04:47 PM Well Jim green is something to think about but we need jobs too. LOL Every time we go electronic another productuve member of society gets kicked to the unemployment roles.Considering the rest of the planet is taking no initiative well we need to stop putting people out of work that need to be able to pay their bills. I'd love to see a bit more about New Hampshire an Maine in it as we have more fishing than the rest of New England land mass wise. more bays,coves ,rivers,lakes an ponds. Yourk cty and Cumberland county alone have more than Mass an RI combined.
tlapinski 02-05-2012, 05:07 PM Well Jim green is something to think about but we need jobs too. LOL Every time we go electronic another productuve member of society gets kicked to the unemployment roles.Considering the rest of the planet is taking no initiative well we need to stop putting people out of work that need to be able to pay their bills. I'd love to see a bit more about New Hampshire an Maine in it as we have more fishing than the rest of New England land mass wise. more bays,coves ,rivers,lakes an ponds. Yourk cty and Cumberland county alone have more than Mass an RI combined.
It's tough to get advertisers / distributors up that way. If we had more contributors from Maine <hint-hint> perhaps we could draw in more of a northern audience... :)
stripermaineiac 02-05-2012, 06:57 PM Trust me If I can get the plugs an rods goin you'll be one of the ist I advertise through.
I know couldn't do it. I can write, but to churn out that much copy, eeek....My best wishes for Toby, he's a good guy and the paralegal experience should prove invaluable.
You go digital and then you have to hire people who can discern whether the login and password to the site jibes with the subscriber, or was posted on a website or shared among a bunch of cheap bastids.
This means hiring an employee who typically can command a salary that would make the guys at Fisherman HQ heads explode. Then there is the issue of selling web ads to people in baitshops with missing teeth who are so resistant to change, they've been wearing the same underwear for ten years.
Clogston29 02-07-2012, 03:44 PM it would be good if there were at least a way to subscribe online. i'm too lazy to do it the old fashion way. if you can subscribe on line and I just missed it, my bad.
afterhours 02-07-2012, 05:59 PM congrats and good luck toby.
Pete F. 02-07-2012, 07:40 PM it would be good if there were at least a way to subscribe online. i'm too lazy to do it the old fashion way. if you can subscribe on line and I just missed it, my bad.
2nd that
agsurfr 02-07-2012, 07:48 PM You go digital and then you have to hire people who can discern whether the login and password to the site jibes with the subscriber, or was posted on a website or shared among a bunch of cheap bastids.
This means hiring an employee who typically can command a salary that would make the guys at Fisherman HQ heads explode. Then there is the issue of selling web ads to people in baitshops with missing teeth who are so resistant to change, they've been wearing the same underwear for ten years.
I know that guy too. He sells good gear, but you can't stand too close.
Congrats Toby and best of luck
Mr. Sandman 02-08-2012, 08:28 AM Wow, Toby you are quick!!!
Yesterday I got an easy to read glossy copy of the paper and in the back there was a cell phone scan thinky that linked your cell phone to an e-edition.
You are amazing! :)
Keep up the good work!
tlapinski 02-08-2012, 12:28 PM it would be good if there were at least a way to subscribe online. i'm too lazy to do it the old fashion way. if you can subscribe on line and I just missed it, my bad.
Funny thing, I was just talking about this idea today with another employee here. I'll see what I can do.
chris L 02-08-2012, 01:31 PM best of luck toby . Im thinking about leaving the IT world and go back to truck driving . Enjoy expanding your fishing .
chris
Clammer 02-08-2012, 02:33 PM :smash:F #^&#^&#^&#^&#^& Chris .HTF are ya .....long time no see // no talk ><><<>
Mr. Sandman 02-08-2012, 03:14 PM The Fisherman PLUS (http://www.thefishermanplus.com/)
One small step for man...one giant leap for...
:)
tradrodz 02-08-2012, 05:54 PM Congrats Toby! I understand your pretty good fishing the Ct river, perhaps you could give the readers some pointers.
Krispy 02-12-2012, 06:05 PM Wait, who's doin what now?!
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vineyardblues 02-14-2012, 10:00 AM Wait, who's doin what now?!
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LOL ,
Hey Mr Toby, Mr Krispy :fishin:
striperman36 02-14-2012, 11:13 AM Two things they should consider to make the publication more current
1) Consider an electronic form of subscription ( more timely and saving on mailing and more green plus additional ad rev)
2) Allow for some way to dig up back articles. You guys have published some great ones over the years. Basically, they are gone forever if they can not be easily retrieved. No one wants a stack of old fishermen weekly's that can't be searched) Allow for back searches and then charge for the download. (added rev) I know the older editions are not digitized, but: a) this can be done as a one time expense b) you need to start keeping everything from here on out digitized.
For example: it would be great if you could search for "Tog Buzzards Bay" and see the title and brief segment of every article that was ever written on this subject. Then charge for the download of the full article(s).
You could then actually monetize the hidden value of these past articles... charging for each download....over and over forever.
(IMO most fishermen like to peruse this thing seasonally usually while sitting on the can on a Friday to get the buzz for the weekends fishing activities. This is still a stone age kind of operation and (again MO which is worth the same as the the paper quality of the mag) will cause it's eventual demise from the current Facebook generation who doesn't read anything written on paper.
How about an app? to get reports/articles/searches.
Sorry, just brain storming. I suspect why nothing changes with the fishermen is that the people who work there are very involved and all very busy just trying to get the next paper edition complete and secure advertisers and no one has the time to work on this massive project like this. Also I get the feeling that the people at the top really don't want any change.
They have an electronic addition now, but the are really not in the mode, I don't know why but it would really benefit to go that way IMO.
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