View Full Version : 1 lure in armed forces survival kit


piemma
04-28-2012, 11:46 AM
Pilots have a ditch kit. There is one lure and only one that will catch fish in every ocean in any conditions and without a rod and reel. It is in their kits

Let's have some guesses. I'll give the right answer after 10 posts

nightfighter
04-28-2012, 11:50 AM
white bucktail

piemma
04-28-2012, 11:52 AM
It's over. You old warrior you!!!

Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.

swags
04-28-2012, 11:59 AM
a can opener that doubles as a lure/spoon?

swags
04-28-2012, 12:01 PM
lol never mind

nightfighter
04-28-2012, 12:12 PM
Close to a dozen other uses besides fishing taught to us during evasive/survival training as well. But it would take me awhile.to remember half of them....

JohnnySaxatilis
04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
mine worked good today :fishin:

basswipe
04-28-2012, 02:16 PM
If it were up to me that lure would be a 1/2oz Kastmaster.I've caught EVERYTHING on it between the coast of RI and Brownsville TX.

Btw the whitebucktail is not always the default.Tins were included in many kits including the MRE.

JohnR
04-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Yep - white bucktail jig

Pete F.
04-28-2012, 06:41 PM
And now for a tougher question, whose jig did the Navy originally select to be included in the survival kit?

chefchris401
04-28-2012, 07:35 PM
To be more specific it's a upperman or bean style white bucktail with red thread.

Bill upperman and his brother had the government contract for many years.
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Pete F.
04-28-2012, 09:24 PM
To be more specific it's a upperman or bean style white bucktail with red thread.

Bill upperman and his brother had the government contract for many years.
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We need some tougher questions

chefchris401
04-28-2012, 09:27 PM
I love the history of our sport.

I was over an old salts house over the winter he told us te whole story of how it came about, then went into the basement and retrieved some of the first run of uppermans every made for the military.

Really cool to see the history of it all.
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chefchris401
04-28-2012, 11:33 PM
heres a cool piece i found:

No greater tribute has ever been paid to a lure than that which the Navy bestowed on the Upperman bucktail jig during World War II. The Navy tested every conceivable kind of lure for its survival kits and finally selected the jigs made by the Upperman brothers, Bill and Morrie, of Atlantic City, because they caught more fish than anything else. All a sailor or pilot adrift at sea had to do to catch fish was tie a bucktail to a handline and then jig it by dancing it up and down in the water. In a bobbing sea, fish could even be caught by tying the handline to the raft and letting the waves do the jigging.

Bill Upperman was not surprised that he and his brother won the Navy contract because, as Morrie's widow, Dorothy, recalls, "They always said it was the lure that would catch the most fish in the least amount of time." Mrs. Upperman recalls that for 11 years her husband held the New Jersey state record for striped bass, a 63-pound, 10-ounce striper caught on an Upperman bucktail.

Rockfish9
04-30-2012, 06:08 AM
It's over. You old warrior you!!!

Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.

fresh water too.. anyone that has been fishing more than a handfull of years should know that one..

bart
04-30-2012, 01:07 PM
jointed pikie?

Rockport24
04-30-2012, 03:15 PM
Anybody know the weight of the standard issue bucktail? I have no idea, but guessing 1/2 oz.
Be cool to know what other items were in the ditchkit.

piemma
04-30-2012, 03:53 PM
I had a survival kit while I was active duty and I think it was 1/2oz.
Ross, you remember???

nightfighter
04-30-2012, 05:23 PM
Not sure.... But my first thought was heavier, like 1oz. . A half oz. wouldn't get down enough from a raft in the Pacific.

nightfighter
04-30-2012, 05:25 PM
It's over. You old warrior you!!!

Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.

fresh water too.. anyone that has been fishing more than a handfull of years should know that one..

Thanks guys..... One calls me old. The other calls me master of the obvious....:)

nightfighter
04-30-2012, 05:39 PM
The News and Courier - Google News Archive Search (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2506&dat=19640524&id=G29JAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EQsNAAAAIBAJ&pg=2828,4679886)

Good article from 1964. Picture is what I remember still issued in the early 80s.

If you scan right through the pages you will see a pic of Mantle, one of Tony Conigliaro, and a wealth of MLB greats in stories and boxscores... Very interesting that Conigliaro was in left and Yaz was in center.......

FinS 32
04-30-2012, 09:04 PM
i was thinking GRS troller. should fit nicely in a survival kit. haha
great plug though

iamskippy
04-30-2012, 09:23 PM
We need some tougher questions

Impossible with google.
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GregW
07-14-2012, 10:52 AM
I was going through my stuff today, and I found one. No idea how I ever had it or why.
The bucktail is still in the package and I don't have the heart to take the kit apart.

PaulS
07-14-2012, 11:04 AM
Every year Mike is always near the time of the leaderboard for the Conn. Surfcasters.

Nebe
07-14-2012, 12:26 PM
when my grandfather was in Guadal Canal, the lure of choice was a hand grenade.

1dozenraw
07-14-2012, 01:10 PM
jointed pikie?
Excellent guess!!!:biglaugh:

GregW
07-20-2012, 07:41 PM
Last picture. meant to post this last week for those interested and got caught up