blondterror
06-18-2012, 03:15 PM
Lou is doing a 2 day commando from NJ to the ditch...
and guess who is on vacation this week...
and guess who is on vacation this week...
View Full Version : look who was fishing the Ditch this morning blondterror 06-18-2012, 03:15 PM Lou is doing a 2 day commando from NJ to the ditch... and guess who is on vacation this week... rizzo 06-18-2012, 05:12 PM Another report further leading to the crowding of the canal. 88 views, no responses and the thread has barely been up for any time. numbskull 06-18-2012, 05:24 PM Woe be Paul's bike seat, to have to choose between asphyxiation in a plastic bag or far, far worse. The seat chose well. RIP. Meanolpah 06-18-2012, 06:15 PM so why tell us? ProfessorM 06-18-2012, 07:06 PM Bad decision Chris. Those are from last week. Today sucked. Please take them down Mr. moderator. bart 06-18-2012, 07:35 PM :rollem: blondterror 06-18-2012, 08:00 PM Sorry guys... what was I thinking... Slip took me out behind the woodshed and gave me a good wooouping... no more irrational exuberance from this BT Jackbass 06-18-2012, 08:05 PM I have viewed the thread two or three times not because I am rushing down to the canal. I thought it was cool two friends getting together to fish when they had time. Goo stuff BT glad you guys got together and had some good fishing last week. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device O.D. Mike 06-18-2012, 08:09 PM Sorry guys... what was I thinking... Slip took me out behind the woodshed and gave me a good wooouping... no more irrational exuberance from this BT I see the banana curse is still around BT...... BigFish 06-18-2012, 08:47 PM Ditch pictures have a holding period of 3 weeks before posting.......and always fib about them being taken LAST season!! :uhuh: stripermaineiac 06-18-2012, 09:29 PM You guys are just too much. Don't see anyone of you down there with a deed in your pocket. must really bug the rest of the tax payer to find out just a small few own the Canal. Sad attitude. been fishin there since the 60's an still don't think i own it. Made a lot of good friends there too.Don't hear many of them whinin about it. besides kinda hard to burn a spot that is that many miles long an in every striper publication written.Enjoy the good things of the pics an stop with all the damn negatives.I thought this site was about enjoying striper fishing an sharing not just for a selfish few. Ron stripermaineiac 06-18-2012, 09:44 PM Oh by the way blondterror. thanks for the great pics. Loved them .Put a nice smile on my face . chapinfisherman 06-19-2012, 07:32 AM You guys are just too much. Don't see anyone of you down there with a deed in your pocket. must really bug the rest of the tax payer to find out just a small few own the Canal. Sad attitude. been fishin there since the 60's an still don't think i own it. Made a lot of good friends there too.Don't hear many of them whinin about it. besides kinda hard to burn a spot that is that many miles long an in every striper publication written.Enjoy the good things of the pics an stop with all the damn negatives.I thought this site was about enjoying striper fishing an sharing not just for a selfish few. Ron agreed rizzo 06-19-2012, 07:34 AM You guys are just too much. Don't see anyone of you down there with a deed in your pocket. must really bug the rest of the tax payer to find out just a small few own the Canal. Have you been fishing it lately? Crowds are out of control at times, the place gets trashed, ect. 99.9% of us don't think we own it, are great to fish with and would give you a plug out of our bags if we were catching and you didnt have one. We are trying to prevent the masses from showing up that don't respect the place and other fisherman. 1,000s of people are watching and a percentage will run to the canal when they get a report, even if its a false one... Typhoon 06-19-2012, 07:37 AM You guys are worse than the Wicked tuna show. "Get off my numbers" Slipknot 06-19-2012, 08:32 AM I guess there are more than one school of thought on the subject, you are entitled to your opinions. There's no drama here to see though. Glad you had a good time fishing Chris :) no problem here though, just trying to keep the peace.everyone has their reasons for what they believe and I respect all. good to see Sgt. got some action too. rizzo makes a great point too the guys here are not anywhere as bad as that tv show, they get paid and fish from boats. I take it you don't fish the canal typhoon :rollem: tysdad115 06-19-2012, 08:49 AM I fish it all the time,its what you make of it...I didn't think "the ditch" was a burn. Chris and Lou found some fish doing the same thing I do all the time, followed Tyler! piemma 06-19-2012, 08:50 AM Bad decision Chris. Those are from last week. Today sucked. Please take them down Mr. moderator. Yup. Bad decision. I have had my spot to myself for 2 days. Today, the clown car showed up and there were more guys who didn't have a clue than I have seen a quite some time. I counted 12 guys in the space of 100 yards. This where there has been no one Sunday or Monday morning. Everyone has a right to post whatever they want. Just keep in mind that there are ramifications anytime you post even a remote reference to a spot. It's not the members here. It's the million lurkers.:fury: stripermaineiac 06-19-2012, 09:10 AM Well get used to the crowds. Gonna get worse as more people are not workin an looking to fill the void. Loads of spots in the ditch an if one rock is full try another one. A long time ago I was taught to fish my own game an if someone copied it take it as a compliment. But above all keep my mouth shut unless i was willing to share my knowledge an teach new guys how to work an area so as we don't step on toes. i love it when i'm fishin a spot for 4 or 5 tides an the bike brigade see's me catchin fish an are in the spot an hr before I get there an crowd it so that I can't fish it. Loads of Gibbs stickers in that bunch. Many never fished it till recent. then I see those same people on here whinin about spot burnin after they commit real poor eticuite an take over someone's quote rock. If a spot is too crowded I move an if someone is fishin near where I wanna fish I ask him if he minds that i fish near him. Amazing how many Canal Friends I've made that way. Some even ended up with one of my experiment to try an I one of theirs.LOL It's about enjoyin the experience an makin a few friends som ewhich will last forever. JohnR 06-19-2012, 09:37 AM Guys - foot off the gas - The Canal is a big generic place. Would prefer a little more vague, perhaps Greater Ditch Area :rotf2: PRBuzz 06-19-2012, 10:00 AM Someone should call Discovery Channel and suggest a new show: Ditch Wars! JohnnySaxatilis 06-19-2012, 10:03 AM Someone should call Discovery Channel and suggest a new show: Ditch Wars! The blooper video segment would be absolute TV GOLD! Saw a guy recently cast his whole rod into the water bout 5 feet, had to crab walk out to get it :rotf2: rizzo 06-19-2012, 10:19 AM Starring Cowhunter, Mr. Myerson, Seadangles and plenty of others. Could be excellent reality TV, put them all up in a big mansion house together :happy: Typhoon 06-19-2012, 11:02 AM the guys here are not anywhere as bad as that tv show, they get paid and fish from boats. I take it you don't fish the canal typhoon :rollem: Maybe twice a year. Never have an issue with crowds. I also fish the night shift. OLD GOAT 06-19-2012, 11:18 AM Boy o boy you guys are very touchy.I'd give it a try but don't want to do it wrong and gitcha all mad. There must be a place that gives canal leasons and such. Rockport24 06-19-2012, 12:44 PM I heard he caught that fish that was on the back of the bike over in chatham and then peddled it over to the canal! :D :hidin: ^ ^ that was a joke.... bart 06-19-2012, 12:51 PM The problem is that most of the guys that are saying it's OK to post about the canal don't fish it regularly. They come down once or twice a month, leave, and then feel the need to tell everyone and their brother on here how good the fishing is. That is completely inconsiderate and disrespectful to the guys who fish it consistently,who don't pay attention to reports, and don't rely on them. Can't you see how frustrating it would be to put in all that time and then have a couple heroes come on here and give everyone a free report? If you can't see that then you are completely oblivious or you could care less. Put in your time and find your own fish... rizzo 06-19-2012, 12:55 PM The problem is that most of the guys that are saying it's OK to post about the canal don't fish it regularly. They come down once or twice a month, leave, and then feel the need to tell everyone and their brother on here how good the fishing is. That is completely inconsiderate and disrespectful to the guys who fish it consistently,who don't pay attention to reports, and don't rely on them. Can't you see how frustrating it would be to put in all that time and then have a couple heroes come on here and give everyone a free report? If you can't see that then you are completely oblivious or you could care less. Put in your time and find your own fish... Amen! Some will never get this. ThrowingTimber 06-19-2012, 01:07 PM The problem is that most of the guys that are saying it's OK to post about the canal don't fish it regularly. They come down once or twice a month, leave, and then feel the need to tell everyone and their brother on here how good the fishing is. That is completely inconsiderate and disrespectful to the guys who fish it consistently,who don't pay attention to reports, and don't rely on them. Can't you see how frustrating it would be to put in all that time and then have a couple heroes come on here and give everyone a free report? If you can't see that then you are completely oblivious or you could care less. Put in your time and find your own fish... Agrees Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device vineyardblues 06-19-2012, 01:12 PM Someone should call Discovery Channel and suggest a new show: Ditch Wars! lol goog one WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 01:18 PM The problem is that most of the guys that are saying it's OK to post about the canal don't fish it regularly. They come down once or twice a month, leave, and then feel the need to tell everyone and their brother on here how good the fishing is. That is completely inconsiderate and disrespectful to the guys who fish it consistently,who don't pay attention to reports, and don't rely on them. Can't you see how frustrating it would be to put in all that time and then have a couple heroes come on here and give everyone a free report? If you can't see that then you are completely oblivious or you could care less. Put in your time and find your own fish... X3 piemma 06-19-2012, 01:19 PM The problem is that most of the guys that are saying it's OK to post about the canal don't fish it regularly. They come down once or twice a month, leave, and then feel the need to tell everyone and their brother on here how good the fishing is. That is completely inconsiderate and disrespectful to the guys who fish it consistently,who don't pay attention to reports, and don't rely on them. Can't you see how frustrating it would be to put in all that time and then have a couple heroes come on here and give everyone a free report? If you can't see that then you are completely oblivious or you could care less. Put in your time and find your own fish... Exactly Bart. Exactly. I don't mind guys fishing around me. I have dealt with it for 40+ years. What I do mind is the "Paul Reveres of the world announcing "come one, come all. Stripermaniac, I respect you but you are off base as far as I'm concerned. I DO have 50 different spots to fish in the Ditch. I do talk with a lot of guys but I have my favorites and after I do an 80 mile drive to get to one of my spots at 3:00 AM to find 3 guys with white buckets who don't have a &^%$ clue as to what they are doing, I get annoyed. Clearly they are there because they got a "report". tysdad115 06-19-2012, 01:55 PM Crowds are common in the areas close to major parking lots we have to deal with this any "breaking tide". Major spot specific reports are bad for sure, IMO Chris' original post was not a burn. Todays crowd was nowhere near as bad as others this year alone. In fact I havent seen one "specific" spot burn on this site in a long time. The canal being crowded in June is a fact of life. piemma 06-19-2012, 02:23 PM Crowds are common in the areas close to major parking lots we have to deal with this any "breaking tide". Major spot specific reports are bad for sure, IMO Chris' original post was not a burn. Todays crowd was nowhere near as bad as others this year alone. In fact I havent seen one "specific" spot burn on this site in a long time. The canal being crowded in June is a fact of life. Oh shut up:rotf2: flyvice11787 06-19-2012, 03:14 PM Ditch pictures have a holding period of 3 weeks before posting.......and always fib about them being taken LAST season!! :uhuh: Pot, meet kettle :tooth:. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device t.orlando 06-19-2012, 05:47 PM Well get used to the crowds. Gonna get worse as more people are not workin an looking to fill the void. Loads of spots in the ditch an if one rock is full try another one. A long time ago I was taught to fish my own game an if someone copied it take it as a compliment. But above all keep my mouth shut unless i was willing to share my knowledge an teach new guys how to work an area so as we don't step on toes. i love it when i'm fishin a spot for 4 or 5 tides an the bike brigade see's me catchin fish an are in the spot an hr before I get there an crowd it so that I can't fish it. Loads of Gibbs stickers in that bunch. Many never fished it till recent. then I see those same people on here whinin about spot burnin after they commit real poor eticuite an take over someone's quote rock. If a spot is too crowded I move an if someone is fishin near where I wanna fish I ask him if he minds that i fish near him. Amazing how many Canal Friends I've made that way. Some even ended up with one of my experiment to try an I one of theirs.LOL It's about enjoyin the experience an makin a few friends som ewhich will last forever. Sounds contradictory to what we witnessed you doing on your last trip. My buddy who had just finished catching fish was packing up, you ask him why hes leaving, then jump in your truck, follow him, then get out and immediately start casting your plug over us jigging(making us cut our drifts short. Hypocrisy is awesome LOL stripermaineiac 06-19-2012, 06:31 PM LOL Well not sure what your talkin about T as all my fishin was off the back of my bike this year an never did cast over others as most times i was either alone with Lee or there before others got there LOL.As far as plugs n jiggin go well plugs about never bother jigs as they're on top an jigs are down deep. Fish both an never have a prob with others fishin out of my hip pocket an same with them.I will say this the only time i drift long is with darters an thats at night. all you day fisherman are home sleepin then . just us old guys an nuts down there at night. LOL.About never see anyone else then, but this grumpy old guy that lives close to the ditch an some day gotta get him to bring some of that good coffee he makes down with him.Love that coffee holder he has on his bike. gotta find one of them. LOL Sea Dangles 06-19-2012, 06:55 PM What a bunch of whining fairies. Not a single one amongst you who does not rely on somebody else's reports. Dopes who throw rocks at people on their rocks....wow am I glad to be in a boat. I will be displaying my white bucket tomorrow for the dbags to cry about.Now I know why NIB quit fishing...grade school BS.Don't forget,at one point we ALL had no clue. I have seen how the IN crowd operates and I am happy to be out of the backstabbing, petty,insecure circle.Bart,don't tell me you make your own reports,same with Victor or Jay.But somehow you all feel you deserve it,or are owed it. In reality we are all in the same boat so to speak,just that some feel as though they have earned their stripes because;A,they put their time in,or B, they have nice gear. Criers and liars and fishermen. Rappin Mikey 06-19-2012, 07:04 PM What is all this fuss about? I better get to this "ditch" spot and check out what all these crazy people are fighting about!!! People sure are getting crazy about it. I wonder why:confused::confused::rotf2:Man I wish there were no more seals or plovers. Life was so much simpler back then. Penguins is practically chickens after all my friends...... Penguins is practically chickens.:love::love::buds::smash: Slingah 06-19-2012, 07:12 PM Man I wish there were no more seals or plovers. Life was so much simpler back then. Penguins is practically chickens after all my friends...... Penguins is practically chickens.:love::love::buds::smash: amen... bloocrab 06-19-2012, 07:22 PM What a bunch of whining fairies. Not a single one amongst you who does not rely on somebody else's reports. Dopes who throw rocks at people on their rocks....wow am I glad to be in a boat. I will be displaying my white bucket tomorrow for the dbags to cry about.Now I know why NIB quit fishing...grade school BS.Don't forget,at one point we ALL had no clue. I have seen how the IN crowd operates and I am happy to be out of the backstabbing, petty,insecure circle.Bart,don't tell me you make your own reports,same with Victor or Jay.But somehow you all feel you deserve it,or are owed it. In reality we are all in the same boat so to speak,just that some feel as though they have earned their stripes because;A,they put their time in,or B, they have nice gear. Criers and liars and fishermen. Wow........powerful stuff there. :eek: Man I wish there were no more seals or plovers. Life was so much simpler back then. Those "back then"people are "Now" Canal fishermen....:jump1: stripermaineiac 06-19-2012, 07:57 PM Nice sea dangles. Oh that's right you fish in more than one spot LOL. very well put. Oh by the way in the 60's 70's an 80's these sites didn't exist an it was still crowded on the right tides an when the Herrin were in. LOL.Ron stripermaineiac 06-19-2012, 07:59 PM Also if any of you guys see me down there on the night tides an wanna join me feel free it's nice to have company. i don't care if some thing your a googan or not. Fishin can be much more fun sharin it with someone. Ron WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:01 PM Hey Chris. Boat fish don't count so be quiet!!!!!!!!!!! Lol Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:04 PM And btw Chris have you ever seen me report? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device ProfessorM 06-19-2012, 08:16 PM that's it I am never fishing the canal again WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:22 PM that's it I am never fishing the canal again 1 less googan:rotf2: angler229 06-19-2012, 08:28 PM I love it you say if a spot is crowded you move but I was one of the guys you were casting your plug over making me cut my drift short as not to tangle you every cast. Total hypocrite :uhuh:. And to say plugs will never bother someone jigging you obviously have no clue as to what your talking about. LOL Well not sure what your talkin about T as all my fishin was off the back of my bike this year an never did cast over others as most times i was either alone with Lee or there before others got there LOL.As far as plugs n jiggin go well plugs about never bother jigs as they're on top an jigs are down deep. Fish both an never have a prob with others fishin out of my hip pocket an same with them.I will say this the only time i drift long is with darters an thats at night. all you day fisherman are home sleepin then . just us old guys an nuts down there at night. LOL.About never see anyone else then, but this grumpy old guy that lives close to the ditch an some day gotta get him to bring some of that good coffee he makes down with him.Love that coffee holder he has on his bike. gotta find one of them. LOL Slingah 06-19-2012, 08:40 PM that's it I am never fishing the canal again you know this is all your fault don't cha?????:fishslap: ThrowingTimber 06-19-2012, 08:42 PM Bart,don't tell me you make your own reports,same with Victor or Jay.But somehow you all feel you deserve it,or are owed it. In reality we are all in the same boat so to speak,just that some feel as though they have earned their stripes because;A,they put their time in,or B, they have nice gear. Criers and liars and fishermen. Chris, I go out of my way to not ask. I know who to call, I know who to ask. I dont call, I dont find it fair that someone is working their ass off to find fish and I just call. The only person I do call is Patrick and I never ask its mostly I was here and such but never where are they etc. I do CAMP! I'll CAMP A SPOT LIKE A MUTHA #^&#^&#^&#^&ER! :vamp: WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:44 PM you know this is all your fault don't cha?????:fishslap: Yup. Paul is banned from the site and all other social networks until I get an invite this year for some funny fish. ProfessorM 06-19-2012, 08:45 PM 1 less googan:rotf2: you got that right. All I use now anyway are those big stupid jointed plastic fish things. So easy even a googan can do it. ProfessorM 06-19-2012, 08:47 PM you know this is all your fault don't cha?????:fishslap: heck if I knew he was going to make me an internet star I would have kept the other fish and shaved and combed my hair, unfortunately I have no good side Hey Matt when you going to fish the canal again so we can laugh at Lawrence. WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:51 PM Chris, I go out of my way to not ask. I know who to call, I know who to ask. I dont call, I dont find it fair that someone is working their ass off to find fish and I just call. The only person I do call is Patrick and I never ask its mostly I was here and such but never where are they etc. I do CAMP! I'll CAMP A SPOT LIKE A MUTHA #^&#^&#^&#^&ER! :vamp: Vic pay NO attention to the man behind the curtain. He's chumming and it's easy to bite and fight back. No need to. Just fish your azz off all season and bring those frigging portogreekingspanish fried things to Bob's house. WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 08:55 PM you got that right. All I use now anyway are those big stupid jointed plastic fish things. So easy even a googan can do it. You talking about the rubber squid (from a bar) that I found on the rocks the other day? Or the tube and worm thing a guy was casting last year from the rocks with a 6 ft boat rod?:rotf2: ProfessorM 06-19-2012, 08:56 PM Matt Did I say that? I am just a googan what the hell do I know so I may have. Slingah 06-19-2012, 09:10 PM :) Sgt Striper 06-20-2012, 09:30 AM :hidin: Is it safe to come out yet??:err: tysdad115 06-20-2012, 09:52 AM :hidin: Is it safe to come out yet??:err: Sure , you come up from Joisey, participate in all this ruckus and hightail it back ! Smart man , nice meeting you Lou.:gh: Jackbass 06-20-2012, 09:58 AM Hey if anything this thread has turned into a good laugh. If I am lucky I get to fish there twice a week. I try not to goog up the place. btw what's wrong with three waying a tube and worm in there. They told me it should work Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device bart 06-20-2012, 10:32 AM Chris ask tony mike and others if I ever ask for reports. Yes, people have shown me spots and put me on bites, but they will tell you I never fish their spots out of respect for them nor do I call them for reports. But if someone calls of course I will pay attention. Good day Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device WESTPORTMAFIA 06-20-2012, 10:39 AM Hey if anything this thread has turned into a good laugh. If I am lucky I get to fish there twice a week. I try not to goog up the place. btw what's wrong with three waying a tube and worm in there. They told me it should work Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device Not sure how effective the tube and worm is. But I did see a guy get skunked last year tubing it up. Maybe he didn't have a worm on or wasn't getting down deep enough. Lol Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device Back Beach 06-20-2012, 11:13 AM Chris ask tony mike and others if I ever ask for reports. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device You're the biggest pain in the ass I know... bart 06-20-2012, 03:38 PM Oh that just got me all hot and bothered. Stopped by to say Hi today... stripermaineiac 06-20-2012, 06:18 PM LOL Well ok Angler. If you say so LOL.Considerin I was one of about 2 dozen of us I guess I was doin the same. Cast in front of me an work it in.But oh well. LOL leftyfan 06-21-2012, 12:59 PM one thing that is universal is guys thinking they own spots and even rocks when they dont-they think it is okay for them to share reports with other "sharpies" and get reports as well but god forbid anybody else does the same and most times the posting like the one here was so generic it is comical-Hey I got fish this past weekend on long island-omg big spot burn- piemma 06-21-2012, 02:00 PM Hey lefty!! Where ya been? 6 years on the board and 36 post. Once every 6 months. Glad to see you are back.:uhuh: leftyfan 06-21-2012, 02:32 PM Hey lefty!! Where ya been? 6 years on the board and 36 post. Once every 6 months. Glad to see you are back.:uhuh: back in full force two posts in one day :uhuh: I read it once in in a while as there are some good people on here I know I had to chime in on this thread as I see this all over -certain guys feeling they have the right to tell others how to act and who should fish and when and where-I have fished certain areas for almost 30 years but I recognize that a newbie has the same rights to spots as me-the growth of the sport has led to many good things and some not so good ones as well. I also know there are plenty of easy ways to fish away from the crowds if you want to even at montuak-look out a few hundred yards and I will be sitting on a rock in my wetsuit piemma 06-21-2012, 02:41 PM back in full force two posts in one day :uhuh: I read it once in in a while as there are some good people on here I know I had to chime in on this thread as I see this all over -certain guys feeling they have the right to tell others how to act and who should fish and when and where-I have fished certain areas for almost 30 years but I recognize that a newbie has the same rights to spots as me-the growth of the sport has led to many good things and some not so good ones as well. I also know there are plenty of easy ways to fish away from the crowds if you want to even at montuak-look out a few hundred yards and I will be sitting on a rock in my wetsuit Just glad to see you're back! Sea Dangles 06-21-2012, 05:57 PM Good post Lefty,kind of proves that is the quality of posts and not the volume that matters. Please excuse Piemma as he is obviously in full assault mode and wearing his game face every day this season. ProfessorM 06-21-2012, 08:31 PM Chris is right look how many post an imbecile like me has, I haven't stated any pertinent info in years. N.ShoreFisher 06-23-2012, 12:17 PM Geez, I'm actually a little afraid to fish down there now. I'd hate to be the guy that fished in the wrong spot with the wrong bait/lures..etc. I've been planning my first trip down there, but might just take my keepahhs up here on the N.Shore. So I'm guessing that I shouldn't even ask where to park or how far down to go from said parking lot. lol Spinfish 06-23-2012, 08:31 PM Geez, I'm actually a little afraid to fish down there now. I'd hate to be the guy that fished in the wrong spot with the wrong bait/lures..etc. I've been planning my first trip down there, but might just take my keepahhs up here on the N.Shore. So I'm guessing that I shouldn't even ask where to park or how far down to go from said parking lot. lol Don't be afraid LOL. Couple weeks silly season will be over and they'll all be gone chasing the next report. Pick a good late night tide....park anywhere you want the lots will be empty. Jig up a few and enjoy. piemma 06-25-2012, 03:13 AM Good post Lefty,kind of proves that is the quality of posts and not the volume that matters. Please excuse Piemma as he is obviously in full assault mode and wearing his game face every day this season. What'd ya mean??? I said I was glad lefty was back. I meant it!!!:rotf2: vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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