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Piscator 06-19-2012, 11:14 AM Lots of talk lately (and always) about etiquette at the canal. Guys having no clue what they are doing down there. Seems like there is more complaining (probably justified) but no real list of things to abide by. I know it’s mostly common sense but what would be your top 5 or 10 things for new guys to follow at the canal?
Since they are all reading the info and spot burns on here :) , might as well tell them (nicely) what the expectation is when they try to learn to fish it. Think of it as “The Canal for Dummies” Might do some good in the long run......
rizzo 06-19-2012, 11:25 AM There should be a "Surfcaster's Code" as well.
JackK 06-19-2012, 12:06 PM Should have titled this "canal fishing report". Would have gotten twice the hits :hihi:
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the point 06-19-2012, 12:10 PM So Casting From the service Road with My Jig Between two people throwning pencils is a Bad Etiquette:smash:
If you want a spot, get there early and CLAIM it. Don't come down right when you know it will go off and crowd the people that have PUT IN THEIR TIME and got there early.
If you get there and someone is jigging, don't throw dannies over their line and F up their drift.
If you see someone hooked up, WAIT until they have the fish under control THEN start casting.
Finally, STOP posting anything about the canal, even if you wait 3 weeks to say how good it was. People will still go down thinking it's going off, and it very well might that day, so KEEP IT QUIET.
WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 01:17 PM So Casting From the service Road with My Jig Between two people throwning pencils is a Bad Etiquette:smash:
Yeah no crap! I hate when people try throwing pencils when I'm jigging from the road.:rotf2:
tysdad115 06-19-2012, 01:38 PM #1- If your not sure of what to do or when to do it- like casting in order with everyone else - when its ok to cast when someones on a fish, or if you think you might be too close-you are. Please ask, we would rather tell you how to do it instead of yell at you. We would much rather show you how to do it and have a good time fishing responsibly than piss and moan on-line.
#2- Please take your trash with you. This includes all wrappers,boxes and even any fishing line you may discard.
Rockport24 06-19-2012, 01:42 PM rule #1: don't talk about the canal
BigFish 06-19-2012, 01:59 PM I love the "Path Casters"!!!:fury: Then there was the one the other morning I saw on the side opposite me getting......a "running start"!!!!:rotf2: Little did the puddin' head realize his momentum ends when he planted his feet to cast!!!:rotf2::rotf2:
Matt D 06-19-2012, 01:59 PM #1- If your not sure of what to do or when to do it- like casting in order with everyone else - when its ok to cast when someones on a fish, or if you think you might be too close-you are. Please ask, we would rather tell you how to do it instead of yell at you. We would much rather show you how to do it and have a good time fishing responsibly than piss and moan on-line.
#2- Please take your trash with you. This includes all wrappers,boxes and even any fishing line you may discard.
#2 - ESPECIALLY your fishing line. Braid takes a long time to degrade and is a hazard to critters and fisherman alike. My cruiser was having problems shifting. I found about 50 yards of powerpro wrapped around the rear wheel sprocket and bearings. Took me a couple of hours to dig it all out. I wasn't missing any line.
Jackbass 06-19-2012, 02:08 PM If you want to have success at the Canal PM me I am usually a day early or on the wrong side. I can make it easy for you if I am fishing pole x on the cape side go to pole x mainland guaranteed big fish every time. Or if I am going fishing on Tuesday be sure to be there Wednesday. Sure fire way to go large.
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the point 06-19-2012, 02:15 PM I love the "Path Casters"!!!:fury: Then there was the one the other morning I saw on the side opposite me getting......a "running start"!!!!:rotf2: Little did the puddin' head realize his momentum ends when he planted his feet to cast!!!:rotf2::rotf2:
That's the Happy Gilmore Cast.:rotf2:
Rockport24 06-19-2012, 02:22 PM I like to impress people by having my buddies go on the other side of the canal while I am casting and then pretend like my plug is going to hit them after I cast! :hihi:
Jackbass 06-19-2012, 02:24 PM Pudding head lol
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WESTPORTMAFIA 06-19-2012, 03:02 PM Pudding head lol
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Yup:rotf2: I'll be calling some people puddinghead for sure:biglaugh:
maxum16 06-19-2012, 08:10 PM Yea those are all good and valid points, but in a way you can't blame someone for getting so excited when fishing is good! After all those are the days that we all want. What really pisses me off is when you catch a fish and someone walking by asks "Hey are you going to keep that fish?, if not I'll take it" or when you see someone catching and keeping more than the limit of 2 fish by going back to their car and stashing them.
FinS 32 06-19-2012, 10:07 PM Finally, STOP posting anything about the canal, even if you wait 3 weeks to say how good it was. People will still go down thinking it's going off, and it very well might that day, so KEEP IT QUIET.
how NJ feels everyday, if it goes of at x st. at 4pm tues, it must go off same time wed. 300 guys will be there cus everyone talked about it
Mr. Sandman 06-20-2012, 05:50 AM The solution is easy.... don't fish the canal. It's too easy that is why people fish it. You drive/walk/even bike right to your spot. Intel is easy to come by. The region is lined with mile markers. You have to expect this.
I would suggest you continue to post how great the canal is and post a lot of photos from years past. Then, fish the beach someplace else. You will have everyone and their mother fishing the canal and the beach will be free and clear.
Think of it as as sacrificial spot. Kind of like a "Zinc" for fishing spots. I just a soon have them all fish next to each other there.
Posts like:
The Canal is smoking hot right now!! The area near marker 48 had fish to 48# all night long last night. catchemup!!
I got this idea from watching the "Wicked Tuna" show where the so called "pros" send their "good friends" to other places where they are not. (talk about lack of etiquette!)
Slipknot 06-20-2012, 06:02 AM The solution is easy.... don't fish the canal. It's too easy that is why people fish it. You drive/walk/even bike right to your spot. Intel is easy to come by. The region is lined with mile markers. You have to expect this.
I would suggest you continue to post how great the canal is and post a lot of photos from years past. Then, fish the beach someplace else. You will have everyone and their mother fishing the canal and the beach will be free and clear.
Think of it as as sacrificial spot. Kind of like a "Zinc" for fishing spots. I just a soon have them all fish next to each other there.
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The Canal is smoking hot right now!! The area near marker 48 had fish to 48# all night long last night. catchemup!!
I got this idea from watching the "Wicked Tuna" show where the so called "pros" send their "good friends" to other places where they are not. (talk about lack of etiquette!)
I should just delete this entire post
"too easy" huh? ya sure, 3 times in the last 6 years it was easy :rollem:
maybe the canal has gotten to be like boatfish, they don't count:fishin::biglaugh:
"the beach will be free and clear" got news for you Jim, they already are.
when the daylight fishing slows, the crowds will go down and jigging at night will be good
Back Beach 06-20-2012, 06:33 AM UNCLE!!!!!
piemma 06-20-2012, 07:05 AM UNCLE!!!!!
I was wondering when you would come out of hiding.
Everyone should fish Pole 500
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Mr. Sandman 06-20-2012, 07:43 AM The canal has a lot going for it. Deep water, riprap line shoreline, herring run, relatively easy access, the fish now migrate thru there every season, so it almost like you have a semi captive body of fish near by. Heck when you can cast from the road to deep water, that is relatively easy. It is not like boat fishing but it is more akin to pier fishing from a man made structure. This is why it attracts crowds.
I don't have a problem with folks fishing the canal if that is how they like to fish. It certainly is big enough to accommodate a lot of people. I tried it a few times and even caught a few fish. I found it to be an interesting place to be left to others to enjoy. But if it was in my back yard I probably would fish it often as well.
Be all you can be.
My previous post was kind of tongue in cheek and not meant to inflame anyone. You guys are really touchy about the canal.
peace.
Piscator 06-20-2012, 08:05 AM 21 reply’s and 451 views and the only one that really had a good reply to the original post was tysdad115.
#1- If your not sure of what to do or when to do it- like casting in order with everyone else - when its ok to cast when someone’s on a fish, or if you think you might be too close-you are. Please ask, we would rather tell you how to do it instead of yell at you. We would much rather show you how to do it and have a good time fishing responsibly than piss and moan on-line.
#2- Please take your trash with you. This includes all wrappers, boxes and even any fishing line you may discard.
I haven’t fished there since I was a teenager, pretty much a boat guy now (I know, doesn’t count). I would probably only go fish down there now with friends I’ve met mostly through here, then again maybe not since it sounds like a soap opera down there. Boat guys and surf guys have similar issues that the canal guys have with disrespecting people, people with no common sense, crowded areas and guys who only care about themselves. Everyone shares info to some degree but how you do it and who you do it with is the key.
Original post was not a “where to fish the canal or how to catch fish at the canal”. It was “How to fish the canal without pissing everyone off” and out of 451 views there was only 1 reply to the subject.
SeaMule 06-20-2012, 08:12 AM If you want to have success at the Canal PM me I am usually a day early or on the wrong side. I can make it easy for you if I am fishing pole x on the cape side go to pole x mainland guaranteed big fish every time. Or if I am going fishing on Tuesday be sure to be there Wednesday. Sure fire way to go large.
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That is so true. Way too many times I view fish being bailed from across the ditch. It always appears as if the fish are breaking right at their feet as well! Optical illusion or the karma police having some fun?:confused:
tysdad115 06-20-2012, 08:39 AM Wow..you know it's bad if I'm the only one making sense! Talk about being bottom of the white bucket !:rotf2:
This was my favorite part of it anyways : "piss and moan on-line"
The Dad Fisherman 06-20-2012, 08:57 AM Wow..you know it's bad if I'm the only one making sense!
I A-Scared :shocked:
Swimmer 06-20-2012, 09:26 AM I have a new rule proposal, "no new #^&#^&#^&#^&ing rules".
Swimmer 06-20-2012, 09:28 AM So Casting From the service Road with My Jig Between two people throwning pencils is a Bad Etiquette:smash:
As soon as thgis occurs, on his second cast I throw my line over his and screw him up.
Jackbass 06-20-2012, 09:40 AM As soon as thgis occurs, on his second cast I throw my line over his and screw him up.
It's far easier to screw him up than having to cast over his line. Lol
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iamskippy 06-20-2012, 10:09 AM Everyone should fish Pole 500
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Thought the magic pole was the one with the green sign indicating 495? Man i got bad intell no wonder i cant hook up.
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staltershoal 06-20-2012, 12:10 PM Thought the magic pole was the one with the green sign indicating 495? Man i got bad intell no wonder i cant hook up.
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Lol.
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Sgt Striper 06-20-2012, 12:19 PM Thought the magic pole was the one with the green sign indicating 495? Man i got bad intell no wonder i cant hook up.
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Is that left to right or right to left of the magic pole?
iamskippy 06-20-2012, 07:15 PM Is that left to right or right to left of the magic pole?
depends on which direction you are going :uhuh: don't confuse me i almost have it figured out! :smash:
Finlander 06-21-2012, 11:18 AM This doesn't just happen at the canal, wherever the fishing is good at the time, right now it's the canal. Back ten years ago it was the backbeachs, had two seasons of the best bass fishing I've seen and no crowds then the word got out. It all changed the parking lots would be filled with trucks with NY and NJ plates, the beaches looked like a picket fence with all the poles. Great fishing easy access
= crowds. Even 15 minutes blitzs we all have seen the beach go from one or two to more the 50 in minutes. It's fishing! All I ask is use some common sense and a little courtesy, goes a long way and we can all get a long.
clcharette 06-21-2012, 12:50 PM So tired of listening to every one complain about spot burning. The canal is huge and usually it is going off many places at the same time.
Back to the topic!
If you are the first one to a spot, do what ever it is that you want, chunking, eels, jigs, swimmers, top etc. etc..
If you are not first and have decided to set shop up next to someone else you better first observe what there doing. If they are throwing a jig and fishing it all the way down thru the drift or a pencil popper or any thing else for that matter you better not be within a hundred yards down current of them unless you plan on fishing a jig or something similar. If you are, then let him reel in before you cast. You then cast and hopefully he will understand you know what you are doing. He will cast after you and the guy up from him will follow etc. etc.. When done properly many guys can fish in harmony and all can enjoy the same spot.
An Absolute no no is the following:
Never ever cast out when the guy upcurrent from you still has his line out in front of you. If you do not only will he be f bombing you he may hook up and you will now surely tangle up with him. This is a sure way to get thrown into the ditch.
basstrologer 06-21-2012, 02:01 PM Once the stupid fishing is over the crowds will go away, and the anglers will take it back from the fisherman. Quit wining and simply get a bike and move around. And by the way fish swim.
westhavendave 06-21-2012, 02:06 PM I have fished the canal exactly once. I went with a group of eight guys, four novices to the ditch and the other half experienced. There was a great pencil bite that morning and all it took was one short lesson from the knowledgable guys to have us all casting in sync. It's not rocket science. By the time day broke and the bite started to cool the daytime warriors showed up and tried to crowd us, I think the guy in the yellow slicker and purple pimp hat scared them off though.:) As with any popular spot, it is all about common courtesy.
Fiske27 06-21-2012, 07:36 PM Please Dont Throw over my head,thats not right.
ProfessorM 06-21-2012, 08:23 PM My 2 cents . I have fished the canal for over 25 years and all this stuff is nutin new. Herring fishing, talk about crowds, chumming and chunking, try getting near Keene street or 225 or 85 back then if you weren't in with the in crowd, jigging the cribbin area at nite, it has been very crowded when those techniques were in vogue. Plugging has taken over that nowadys but there were wars doing the other styles too. Granted the speed of the internet and cell phones has ramped it up 10 fold but nutin new guys. The canal is a crowded place to fish plain and simple you need to accept that and try to have a good time. Getting pissed off is not going to change it and will ruin your day. There are going to be people that have no clue and your job is to inform them in a nice a courteous way so they learn and can next time show someone else the correct way to have fun. Have some patience with one another. All everyone wants to do is have some fun fishing. It is always going to be crowded at peak times and info will always be shared and very quickly so relax. Its only fishing . See U tomorrow guys. I'm getting up early to steal your fav spot
Sgt Striper 06-21-2012, 09:05 PM My 2 cents . I have fished the canal for over 25 years and all this stuff is nutin new. Herring fishing, talk about crowds, chumming and chunking, try getting near Keene street or 225 or 85 back then if you weren't in with the in crowd, jigging the cribbin area at nite, it has been very crowded when those techniques were in vogue. Plugging has taken over that nowadys but there were wars doing the other styles too. Granted the speed of the internet and cell phones has ramped it up 10 fold but nutin new guys. The canal is a crowded place to fish plain and simple you need to accept that and try to have a good time. Getting pissed off is not going to change it and will ruin your day. There are going to be people that have no clue and your job is to inform them in a nice a courteous way so they learn and can next time show someone else the correct way to have fun. Have some patience with one another. All everyone wants to do is have some fun fishing. It is always going to be crowded at peak times and info will always be shared and very quickly so relax. Its only fishing . See U tomorrow guys. I'm getting up early to steal your fav spot
:claps: I hope my Ditch etiquette was up to the standards, and I had a GREAT time with you guys!!
Jackbass 06-21-2012, 09:10 PM Great post Prof!
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JamesJet 06-21-2012, 09:47 PM #1 sell all your old lures / equipment to me and only buy whats hot, because everyone knows only the newest hottest lures and bling reels and rods catch there
#2 find someone who is catching and stand near them and fish, you are bound to hook up
#3 Read 3 or 4 striped bass internet boards all day make it to the 1000 post club as soon as possible
Seriously, I am no pro, but fished it enough over the last 6 or so years to learn a thing or two and its really common sense and patience, just like anything else. All the top fishing spots with easy access get crowded, look at the salmon river, or Chatham during com season the past few years. Crowds aren't for everyone but if you like to fish there then embrace it and have a good time instead of knocking it. Sometimes you have to laugh stuff off. Complete googans will catch bigger fish than you and there will be days that you triangulate the sun & stars and baitfish patterns but still strike out only to find out you should have been at the cribbin etc. not to mention all the donations of plugs and jigs you will certainly make I agree with Andy's points completely. Keep a cool head, watch and listen before doing anything and pick up your and others trash. I'll add if you think your gear is under gunned it probably is. That place will have you thinking a 15lb fish is a 30 when its out in the current on a big tide. Not that you need to spend tons but gear up a bit if possible.
bloocrab 06-21-2012, 10:31 PM Seems to be a lot of people on here who know the right thing to do...Perhaps someone can share their thoughts on the matter a little deeper. I'm honestly curious about the consensus on here....
When you set up at a spot, what radius do you think you own? Does that radius tighten as more fishermen begin to surround you or because of your time of arrival to that spot, they are expected to keep proper distance from you?
In this thread, I think I am reading that if someone gets there at 3am and sets up camp, they have some rights...so when a biker shows up at 4:30am and there are breaking fish slightly to the left of the camper (w/No bike), they don't have the right to cut him off to the fish because he was there earlier. Is that correct? Or does the school have to be directly in front of the camper in order to receive that respect?
Does that mean that a fisherman on a bike is exempt from certain etiquettes? Leap-frogging, as I call it...happens all the time with Canal-Bikers, is that considered wrong to someone who set up camp, especially if they get cut-off from casting due to someone pulling up on a bike who's only staying while the fish are actively out front? What if it's a Canal-Cruising Gang? Should the camper just reel in and wait until they move on before casting?
No seriously, how much area do you own when you setup and make your first cast?
...and lastly...Is this all spot dependent? Meaning that it only relates to running current? ie: Canal, Jetties, Breachways, etc///...
Disclaimer: Over 5,000 posts and still haven't added anything of worth.
J_T_R 06-22-2012, 02:49 AM I would like to think that you at least "own" the rock that you are standing on and your casting radius. If someone is dumb enough to crowd me to the point where they will get hit with my cast, then they deserve it.
I think that you have first rights to any water that you can hit with a cast. Anyone should be able to fish the same water, but if they can't fish it without screwing you up, then they should move.
Regardless of who got there first, if you move, you give up all rights. If someone shows up 2 hours after you and is fishing 50 yards away, you have no right to encroach on them, just because you showed up to the body of water before they did.
piemma 06-22-2012, 04:28 AM My 2 cents . I have fished the canal for over 25 years and all this stuff is nutin new. Herring fishing, talk about crowds, chumming and chunking, try getting near Keene street or 225 or 85 back then if you weren't in with the in crowd, jigging the cribbin area at nite, it has been very crowded when those techniques were in vogue. Plugging has taken over that nowadys but there were wars doing the other styles too. Granted the speed of the internet and cell phones has ramped it up 10 fold but nutin new guys. The canal is a crowded place to fish plain and simple you need to accept that and try to have a good time. Getting pissed off is not going to change it and will ruin your day. There are going to be people that have no clue and your job is to inform them in a nice a courteous way so they learn and can next time show someone else the correct way to have fun. Have some patience with one another. All everyone wants to do is have some fun fishing. It is always going to be crowded at peak times and info will always be shared and very quickly so relax. Its only fishing . See U tomorrow guys. I'm getting up early to steal your fav spot
Great post Paul but I have finally figured out how to fish the Ditch without getting aggravated, don't go during prime time. My fishing is now restricted to vampire hours.
RIRockhound and I figured that metric out for Narragansett and SoCo about 6 years ago. We never saw daylight with a fishing rod in our hands. We caught tons of big fish and were alone 99% of the time. Rain, wind and a 2 AM high tide will thin the crowds dramatically.
Pete F. 06-22-2012, 04:28 AM My rules for crowded fishing, applicable at Halladyne Run, the Ballfield, Under the light at Montauk, Any breachway or jetty, the river near my house and the Canal.
Have fun
Talk to the guys next to you
If someone is not having fun and is ruining your fun ask them to go away
Have fun
When you tangle with someone, say you are sorry or accept their apology gracefully
have fun
Don't take it too seriously
I have fished with a friend of mine on the Salmon River, in a spot that they have fished for probably 30 years now. It is on one of the most crowded sections of the river. They have fun and if you are being obnoxious THEY will ask you to go away, nicely. They can handle raw beginners and show them the ropes with a smile, sometimes even make friends. It's hard to believe that people go fishing to not have fun, but some just like to beotch.
piemma 06-22-2012, 04:38 AM This doesn't just happen at the canal, wherever the fishing is good at the time, right now it's the canal. Back ten years ago it was the backbeachs, had two seasons of the best bass fishing I've seen and no crowds then the word got out. It all changed the parking lots would be filled with trucks with NY and NJ plates, the beaches looked like a picket fence with all the poles. Great fishing easy access
= crowds. Even 15 minutes blitzs we all have seen the beach go from one or two to more the 50 in minutes. It's fishing! All I ask is use some common sense and a little courtesy, goes a long way and we can all get a long.
Yes, it did happen on the back but there was difference. You had a truck and could just move and, most likely, find fish. At the Ditch, if you are not a biker and the Biker brigade shows up and jumps in your bootmarks you are SOL. The "leapfrogging" thing annoys the crap out of me. Yes, I do have a bike. No. I do not use it at the Canal. My preference is to walk, which now is out of fashion. i cannot compete with the 10 speed crew so now I am relegated to the 0'dark 30 hours. Not that I mind. I'm still finding fish and still having fun. So we have to change with the times I guess. I like the solitude of middle of the night fishing. Always have.
Rmarsh 06-22-2012, 06:00 AM [QUOTE=Pete F.;945512]My rules for crowded fishing, applicable at Halladyne Run, the Ballfield, Under the light at Montauk, Any breachway or jetty, the river near my house and the Canal.
Have fun
Talk to the guys next to you
If someone is not having fun and is ruining your fun ask them to go away
Have fun
When you tangle with someone, say you are sorry or accept their apology gracefully
have fun
Don't take it too seriously
I have fished with a friend of mine on the Salmon River, in a spot that they have fished for probably 30 years now. It is on one of the most crowded sections of the river. They have fun and if you are being obnoxious THEY will ask you to go away, nicely. They can handle raw beginners and show them the ropes with a smile, sometimes even make friends. It's hard to believe that people go fishing to not have fun, but some just like to beotch.[/QUOTE
I wish more guys would adopt this type of attitude. Good post Pete.
Jackbass 06-22-2012, 06:07 AM If you happen to catch a fish somewhere in the high 20's to mid thirties with a giant magic swimmer in its mouth and about a foot of leader say thank you to me if you see me.
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bloocrab 06-22-2012, 06:45 AM ........The "leapfrogging" thing annoys the crap out of me. Yes, I do have a bike. No. I do not use it at the Canal. My preference is to walk..........
Funny you should say that. I do have a bike and use it occasionally at the CCC. However, what I've found is that I fish far less when I bring my bike as opposed to when I don't. A very common mistake made by many, is that they fish more with their eyes than with their gear. You simply can't do this in the wee hours, you have to FISH to find em'. Although the mobility does have it's moments, I just find that I do more riding and looking than fishing, and when the fish are down or simply not showing, I'm missing out on everything but the gossip.
I must add though, the bike does help alot in getting to spots that are far from the vehicle or possible parking. It is nice to be able to fish a far away spot a lot sooner than on foot. I too, get a kick out of the gossipping gangs...:rotf2:
afterhours 06-22-2012, 07:14 AM treat other fishermen as you want to be treated.
try to help and educate noobs.
iffin' a nimrod or two set up on you and he/they can't take subtle and not so subtle hints just move- life's too short.
have fun.
Mike P 06-22-2012, 07:20 AM Here's a new rule. Do what the law requires and take your fish home to clean. Or, at least, throw the #^&#^&#^&#^&ing racks in the #^&#^&#^&#^&ing Canal, instead of leaving them on the rocks or tossing them in the bushes or woods. :mad: :af:
There are 3 or 4 spots on the mainland side that smell worse than the New Bedford waterfront smells during a 3 day heat wave. And one of them is in a place where the residents regularly complain to the Selectmen about fishermen making noise and leaving a mess. :wall:
Hey, no skin off my ass. I can walk to the Canal from my house if I have to.
MAKAI 06-22-2012, 07:53 AM Taliban fishing.
Cohenfishin 06-22-2012, 09:40 AM Here's a new rule. Do what the law requires and take your fish home to clean. Or, at least, throw the #^&#^&#^&#^&ing racks in the #^&#^&#^&#^&ing Canal, instead of leaving them on the rocks or tossing them in the bushes or woods. :mad: :af:
There are 3 or 4 spots on the mainland side that smell worse than the New Bedford waterfront smells during a 3 day heat wave. And one of them is in a place where the residents regularly complain to the Selectmen about fishermen making noise and leaving a mess. :wall:
Hey, no skin off my ass. I can walk to the Canal from my house if I have to.
I was at one of those spots last night, it smelled like there was a dead body in the bushes. WTF.....
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jlnel 06-22-2012, 11:49 AM Hey, i have deeds to many of the prime rocks along the canal. If anyone is interested in "claiming" their spot, let me know. It's $500 first year and $99 a year after that on a self renewing lease. There is a " rockowners association" that you must obide by their rules, and NO mobile homes allowed!! I feel this is a great deal if you are worried about loosing your favorite rock.
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WESTPORTMAFIA 06-22-2012, 12:46 PM Or if you decide to toss an eel that is over 3 feet long and weighs a good 2 pounds with a 3/0 Gami and for some strange reason don't catch a 100 pound bass. Take your MAN EATING EEL HOME OR THROW IT IN THE WATER not at the top or the herring run for everyone to see and smell. Taking the hook out of its head would have been a good idea too.
21 reply’s and 451 views and the only one that really had a good reply to the original post was tysdad115.
I haven’t fished there since I was a teenager, pretty much a boat guy now (I know, doesn’t count). I would probably only go fish down there now with friends I’ve met mostly through here, then again maybe not since it sounds like a soap opera down there. Boat guys and surf guys have similar issues that the canal guys have with disrespecting people, people with no common sense, crowded areas and guys who only care about themselves. Everyone shares info to some degree but how you do it and who you do it with is the key.
Original post was not a “where to fish the canal or how to catch fish at the canal”. It was “How to fish the canal without pissing everyone off” and out of 451 views there was only 1 reply to the subject.
Umm, did you not read my post? I posted specific directions as to how not to piss off the canal guys. Please do us a favor and stick to your boat because you clearly don't have a clue as to how things work down there...
Once the stupid fishing is over the crowds will go away, and the anglers will take it back from the fisherman. Quit wining and simply get a bike and move around. And by the way fish swim.
Yeah get a bike and chase fish all day instead of letting them come to you...
Piscator 06-22-2012, 08:29 PM Umm, did you not read my post? I posted specific directions as to how not to piss off the canal guys. Please do us a favor and stick to your boat because you clearly don't have a clue as to how things work down there...
Nice #^&#^&#^&#^& head post
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WESTPORTMAFIA 06-22-2012, 09:34 PM Nice #^&#^&#^&#^& head post
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I love #^&#^&#^&#^&head posts! Btw boat fishing is for #^&#^&#^&#^&heads. We are launching tomorrow at 3:45 for some #^&#^&#^&#^&head boat fish that don't count. Lol
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Piscator 06-22-2012, 10:01 PM I love #^&#^&#^&#^&head posts! Btw boat fishing is for #^&#^&#^&#^&heads. We are launching tomorrow at 3:45 for some #^&#^&#^&#^&head boat fish that don't count. Lol
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You better not be fishing on my numbers!
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AL617 06-23-2012, 05:47 AM Is that the big river on the way to the vineyard?? :D
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tysdad115 06-23-2012, 08:40 AM I love #^&#^&#^&#^&head posts! Btw boat fishing is for #^&#^&#^&#^&heads. We are launching tomorrow at 3:45 for some #^&#^&#^&#^&head boat fish that don't count. Lol
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Pudding head!
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Jackbass 06-23-2012, 10:07 AM Pudding head!
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x2 :rotf2:
Chris The Greek 06-23-2012, 12:13 PM for me I practise the same etiquette anywhere ... it starts with self respect and then respect towards other people. I do not do what I do not want done to me - regardless of the "excitement" level.
TS_Morgan 06-23-2012, 02:56 PM You would think alot of this stuff is common sense but not for everyone I guess
clcharette 06-23-2012, 06:16 PM Or if you decide to toss an eel that is over 3 feet long and weighs a good 2 pounds with a 3/0 Gami and for some strange reason don't catch a 100 pound bass. Take your MAN EATING EEL HOME OR THROW IT IN THE WATER not at the top or the herring run for everyone to see and smell. Taking the hook out of its head would have been a good idea too.
There was a time 30 years ago that we would catch our own eels and we wanted the biggest we could catch up to the point that they were near impossible to cast can't tell u how many really big fish we caught but still have the memories burned into my head.
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StriperZ 06-24-2012, 06:44 AM Same thing applies to the outer cape. The fisherman up there hate the people who come to fish 'their' waters and, heaven forbid, make a post on a forum about it.
I don't think it is a good idea at all to report what you do, where you go, what baits you use, or what you caught. Why even have a forum?
Property damage was threatened, and that makes the whole thing not fun. Why do any of you guys ever make reports at all?
Jackbass 06-24-2012, 07:50 AM Same thing applies to the outer cape. The fisherman up there hate the people who come to fish 'their' waters and, heaven forbid, make a post on a forum about it.
I don't think it is a good idea at all to report what you do, where you go, what baits you use, or what you caught. Why even have a forum?
Property damage was threatened, and that makes the whole thing not fun. Why do any of you guys ever make reports at all?
Forums exist for free flow and sharing of technique tactics to share each others joys and frustrations in this world. At times it helps to get people on the same page and educate regarding topics like these. I know there is some playful banter that occurs but overall people who frequent these forums take their fishing seriously. I think you would agree. For the most part if some one can tell you are putting in your time and still being frustrated I am more than Willing to bet there is more than one individual that would shoot a pm or respond to a thread of an individual who is having difficulty grasping a concept or a specific technique. Or help out someone who is living through a continuous skunking. This forum
Is not to provide pole numbers or specific locations of fish caught etc.
As far as the lower cape goes. Well there are a few in every crowd. If someone threatened you on a forum chances are they wouldn't act on it they obviously like to threaten with a keyboard an act
Like a tough guy. I have spots out there that I don't talk about. I share them with a few and for the most part when I fish at night I see no one until first light. If you were threatened in person I would report it to some one. No fish is worth injury or that type of behavior
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cow tamer 06-24-2012, 08:20 AM rule #1: don't talk about the canal
Reminds me of a line from "Fight Club"
rule # 2: don't talk about the canal
and rule # 3: don't talk about the canal
Sea Dangles 06-24-2012, 09:53 AM Forums exist for free flow and sharing of technique tactics to share each others joys and frustrations in this world. At times it helps to get people on the same page and educate regarding topics like these. I know there is some playful banter that occurs but overall people who frequent these forums take their fishing seriously. I think you would agree. For the most part if some one can tell you are putting in your time and still being frustrated I am more than Willing to bet there is more than one individual that would shoot a pm or respond to a thread of an individual who is having difficulty grasping a concept or a specific technique. Or help out someone who is living through a continuous skunking. This forum
Is not to provide pole numbers or specific locations of fish caught etc.
As far as the lower cape goes. Well there are a few in every crowd. If someone threatened you on a forum chances are they wouldn't act on it they obviously like to threaten with a keyboard an act
Like a tough guy. I have spots out there that I don't talk about. I share them with a few and for the most part when I fish at night I see no one until first light. If you were threatened in person I would report it to some one. No fish is worth injury or that type of behavior
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I was surprised but not shocked to see an entire post I submitted which outlined some of the better times and conditions where fishing the canal is most effective. Not a single spot was mentioned,very general information. Kind of made me wonder what the forum is for;Thanks for clearing it up.Looks to me as though the site is in a death spiral which is hard to do given the growth of the sport but with the attitude towards newcomers it gets as much attention as the backbeaches do recently.Too bad, it is a fun place and I have met some good eggs here. I am happy to point folks in the right direction if they are curious enough,send a PM.
Back Beach 06-24-2012, 01:55 PM I am happy to point folks in the right direction if they are curious enough,send a PM.
Thanks Dude!
PM Sent.
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Piscator 06-27-2012, 08:36 PM Ok Guys, time to sum this post up. Lots of good advice but mostly all common sense. Top things to abide by when fishing the canal (or almost any other place for that matter) All info from participating members of S-B.com:
#1. Have fun
#2. Talk to the guys next to you
#3. When you tangle with someone, say you are sorry or accept their apology gracefully
#4. Don't take it too seriously
#5. Treat other fishermen as you want to be treated. It starts with self-respect and then respect towards other people. I do not do what I do not want done to me - regardless of the "excitement" level.
#6. Try to help and educate new guys
#7. If you’re not sure of what to do or when to do it- like casting in order with everyone else - when its ok to cast when someone’s on a fish, or if you think you might be too close-you are. Please ask, we would rather tell you how to do it instead of yell at you. We would much rather show you how to do it and have a good time fishing responsibly.
#8. Please take your trash with you. This includes all wrappers, boxes and even any fishing line you may discard.
#9. Do what the law requires and take your fish home to clean. Don’t throw the racks on the rocks or toss them in the bushes or woods
#10. If you want a spot, get there early and CLAIM it. Don't come down right when you know it will go off and crowd the people that have PUT IN THEIR TIME and got there early.
#11. If you see someone hooked up, WAIT until they have the fish under control THEN start casting.
#12. If you are the first one to a spot, do whatever it is that you want, chunking, eels, jigs, swimmers, top etc. etc.
#13. If you are not first and have decided to set shop up near someone else you better first observe what they’re doing. If they are throwing a jig and fishing it all the way down thru the drift or a pencil popper or anything else for that matter you better not be within a hundred yards down current of them unless you plan on fishing a jig or something similar. If you are, then let him reel in before you cast. You then cast and hopefully he will understand you know what you are doing. He will cast after you and the guy up from him will follow etc. etc.. When done properly many guys can fish in harmony and all can enjoy the same spot.
#14. Never ever cast out when the guy up current from you still has his line out in front of you. If you do not only will he be f bombing you he may hook up and you will now surely tangle up with him. This is a sure way to get thrown into the ditch.
#15. The canal is a crowded place to fish plain and simple you need to accept that and try to have a good time. Getting pissed off is not going to change it and will ruin your day. There are going to be people that have no clue and your job is to inform them in a nice a courteous way so they learn and can next time show someone else the correct way to have fun. Have some patience with one another. All everyone wants to do is have some fun fishing. It is always going to be crowded at peak times and info will always be shared and very quickly so relax. It’s only fishing.
#16. Don’t spot burn with specific location etc.
#17. If someone taught you, teach someone else.
#18. Have fun
ProfessorM 06-28-2012, 08:02 AM Perfect
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mikey99 07-02-2012, 11:14 AM Great rules. Always fun to fish with others who are having fun. Doesn't take much
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