I'm sure most of you remember the Tourney For Chuck that I sort spear-headed last fall. ( :( ) I used that as kind of a practice run for a tournament idea that I had been mulling over for a few years. JohnR and I had talked about running it on S-B and things got away from us and then finally this year, I decided to go for it. I have a hard time looking at the standings for the few other long-duration striper tournaments out there... the killing seems very unnecessary. Don't take this to mean that I'm all catch and release, because I'm not and I enter a few kill tourneys each year--but I really only enter a fish if I feel that I have a chance to place.
I've taken the basics of the Tourney For Chuck and expanded on them, with a more complete set of rules, an option to fish as an individual or to compete as a two-man team. I have worked hard to get great prizes and so far I have a VS250 from Van Staal, an armload of rods from Century, tops from Stormr, plugs from Linesider69, Afterhours, Guppy and Super Strike, surf bags from MAK Surfcasting and all kinds of gear from The Saltwater Edge and Cape Cod Tackle/M&D's and I have a bunch more people lining up to sweeten the pot even more! :uhuh:

There is a Team Event for surfcasters only, The Surfcaster's Classic :hihi:
And the individual competition, The Coast-Wide Cow Hunt, has categories for both boat and surf.

Check out the tournament website here GoTight.Net - Surfcasting & Striped Bass Tournaments Online (http://www.gotight.net)
and follow the facebook page here www.facebook.com/Gotight.Net

I've devised a way to follow the fishing stats of you and your opponents and there are tons of ways to win. Hopefully this breed of catch and release tourney will catch on, we need to preserve the species and I think this is a step in the right direction, hopefully you guys will feel the same way.

-Dave

awesome :kewl:

Nice idea! Looking forward to fishing it this season.
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Good idea but why another tournament?

I love it
this sounds like the kind of tournament I would enter

I love the Surfcasters' Classic :btu:



I looked at it and see that it does not include dead bait, why not? live bait and lures, that sounds like rigged eels or chunks can't be used, maybe it's an oversight

it doesn't start until May16th, that sucks but I understand

Did a good job on this.

Don't know the details yet, but if it's anything like Zeno's SCJ picture contest Striperthon I'm in.

In any case the idea is sounds excellent as the kill tournaments need to become a thing of the past. :buds:

love it Dave....look forward to supporting your effort :)

...had the most fun last year fishing these types of events, especially when paired up with guys I hadn't fished with before, hopefully the nature of the tournament and good participation will turn the trend in tournaments overall in this direction...

Dave I really think this is an awesome idea. Like someone already said I can see alot more future tournaments being run similar to this. I wish they would do something like this for the C and R category in the striper cup, would definitely promote more catch and release in that tournament. I emailed otw and pitched that idea to them last fall but looks like it didn't catch.

I could see it now, the start of a new sport - Major League Surfcasting lol
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Looks great! Love the Box of Twinkies prize :rotf2:

I haven't joined the Cup since 2006, and even when I did, I didn't enter any fish. I really love releasing bigger fish. Of course I've killed my share, but the thought of killing 5 (or more) big fish in one season is outside my mental capacity or something. I just can't do it. I kept one fish last year and it ended up winning a tournament and I still regret not releasing it.

The big thing here is that this needs to be promoted. If you guys like the idea, please spread it around on FB or other boards etc. just remember gotight.net that's easy to remember.

Thanks for the support!
The only downside of running this thing is that I can't fish it! And it's going to be an assload of work, but it's something I really believe in.

-Dave

Looks great! Love the Box of Twinkies prize :rotf2:

That I stole from a Wiffle Ball tournament I used to play in all the time. Thank god they brought Twinkies back for some reason it doesn't sound the same when it's box of Susie Q's

I could see it now, the start of a new sport - Major League Surfcasting lol
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The stats will definitely add a new edge to tournament fishing. And I will run it just like Tourney For Chuck (RIP :( ) where there will be updates throughout each weekend and through the whole season, posted here, FB, Twitter etc. I really think it will be exciting.

-Dave

Dave kudos to the C&R tournament & to the current catch and kill tournaments that plan to follow suit.

I really love releasing bigger fish. Of course I've killed my share, but the thought of killing 5 (or more) big fish in one season is outside my mental capacity or something. I just can't do it. I kept one fish last year and it ended up winning a tournament and I still regret not releasing it.

Very nice statement Dave - I commend you.:uhuh:

DZ

MAJOR CHANGE IN THE SURFCASTER'S CLASSIC RULES/FORMAT!!

After speaking with a few teams that were on the fence about entering because of the upfront obligations to pick 8 weekends to compete, we're making a change.

Your entry fee now gives you the option to fish as many as 14 weekend tournaments or as few as six (6). Your qualifying score will--no matter how many events you enter--be reached by adding up your teams's six (6) highest scores.

I wish I thought of this yesterday. Head-to-Head matchups are no longer part of the Classic! Please share this post and get the word out!!

The only downside of running this thing is that I can't fish it! And it's going to be an assload of work, but it's something I really believe in.

-Dave

Oh Balogna......

Dave fish it, this is mainly for fun to maybe win some gear not millions. This is a common rule that most every tourney has but I thought was always overblown. If everyone is on the honors system then it is all good. If your're worried about it, fish it for the fun and honors and if you happen to win put the prize back in the kitty.

I agree this does look like alllllot of work, I wish you the best of luck.....

hahaha, I have been thinking about entering a team and just, as you said, removing my ability to win a prize. Good chance I will do that. Thanks for making me feel better about the idea! :)

Very nice statement Dave - I commend you.:uhuh:

DZ

Thanks Dennis, if I'm blessed with the opportunity to catch another 50, she's going back. If I ever keep another big fish, it's going to have to bottom out the 60# Boga! And even then I might not... that's one of those situations where you don't know what you'll do until it happens...

hope I get that chance! :rotf2:

MAJOR CHANGE IN THE SURFCASTER'S CLASSIC RULES/FORMAT!!

After speaking with a few teams that were on the fence about entering because of the upfront obligations to pick 8 weekends to compete, we're making a change.

Your entry fee now gives you the option to fish as many as 14 weekend tournaments or as few as six (6). Your qualifying score will--no matter how many events you enter--be reached by adding up your teams's six (6) highest scores.

I wish I thought of this yesterday. Head-to-Head matchups are no longer part of the Classic! Please share this post and get the word out!!

The head to head concept was a cool idea but having to commit to certain weekends upfront was going to be a challenge this season. I like this change!

The head to head concept was a cool idea but having to commit to certain weekends upfront was going to be a challenge this season. I like this change!

Exactly, not only that but now I don't have to juggle everyone's schedules... this will make it a million times easier for everyone.

That is a good change.

Dave has been working hard on coming up with a Great, Fun, & Competitive no kill tourney for Surfcasters.

Major Kudos for pulling it off too. :love:

The Saltwater Edge and River's End Tackle just signed on as sponsors for both tourneys. :btu:


Don't forget there are categories for boat and surf in the Cow Hunt!

Thanks for the support!
The only downside of running this thing is that I can't fish it! -Dave

Why can't you enter the individual stage like everyone else? As a matter of fact we should insist on it. After my ignominious defeat in the Chuck tourney I want another shot at you :rude:

Anyone need a partner for this event? I'm going to put Tyler in the youth division but he wont be able to fish as often to compete . So I need a partner for the competition as Soups probably wont be fishing much this year. The good thing is it will be dark, so no one will see your with me.:rotf2:

I fish by myself mostly Andy, but I'd consider it seeing how you asked, I don't catch many fish though so I'm not sure you'd want me


can I use eelskins?

You can use anything you want that's legal Bruce, no white abalone or sealacamp! :hihi: but eelskins are cool

Anyone need a partner for this event? I'm going to put Tyler in the youth division but he wont be able to fish as often to compete . So I need a partner for the competition as Soups probably wont be fishing much this year. The good thing is it will be dark, so no one will see your with me.:rotf2:


Tyler can fish with you... he doesn't have to be with you for every fish you catch and he'll be automatically entered into the Cow Hunt

I sent Tylers waiver/consent form to you at info@gotight.net Dave. Is that where we send the forms?

I fish by myself mostly Andy, but I'd consider it seeing how you asked, I don't catch many fish though so I'm not sure you'd want me


can I use eelskins?
Sounds good to me Bruce, I hardly catch any either but this sounds fun.

I sent Tylers waiver/consent form to you at info@gotight.net Dave. Is that where we send the forms?


Yes, I'll go put that on the site now, thanks for that--good catch!

Anyone need a partner for this event? I'm going to put Tyler in the youth division but he wont be able to fish as often to compete . So I need a partner for the competition as Soups probably wont be fishing much this year. The good thing is it will be dark, so no one will see your with me.:rotf2:

If you end up needing a partner for this, let me know, I might sign up.

If you end up needing a partner for this, let me know, I might sign up.

Sounds good Greg, if Slip isn't interested I'll let you know

So guys that have commercial permits can't fish this tourney right? Sounds like a great tourney!!

So guys that have commercial permits can't fish this tourney right? Sounds like a great tourney!!

Why is that ? It sounds like you need to fish 6 or 8 weekends in this tourney. Most of the guys I know that comm fish are pretty much C&R guys the rest of the season and probably keep less than most of the guys I see on the canal. Comm season is what, 4 weeks long and they are knocked out of a season long tourney? Why not just not let em enter fish during comm season?

What is your take on those that enter the same fish in multiple tourneys.
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What is your take on those that enter the same fish in multiple tourneys.
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Too hard to police that, I don't like it, but there'd be no way for me to know

Why is that ? It sounds like you need to fish 6 or 8 weekends in this tourney. Most of the guys I know that comm fish are pretty much C&R guys the rest of the season and probably keep less than most of the guys I see on the canal. Comm season is what, 4 weeks long and they are knocked out of a season long tourney? Why not just not let em enter fish during comm season?

That's a valid point and something I will think about.

My reasoning was if you've got a license and it's 34" it's dead.

But I will give some thought to your idea.

I disagree.

These big fish are valuable and should be released regardless of their monetary value. Hopefully the people participating in the tournament share that philosophy and that, rather than fame, prizes, or reward is their primary reason to join.

I probably missed something, but under photo requirements you need two photos of each catch....what if you are entering, and fishing alone?
Thanks
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I probably missed something, but under photo requirements you need two photos of each catch....what if you are entering, and fishing alone?
Thanks
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You'll have to figure something out. Set the camera on timer or something. It doesn't have to be an award winning cover photo, but if I had it so you only had to take one pic, you could pass the tournament tags out to everyone on the beach and have them all shoot pics for you... know what I mean? I fish alone a lot, but I'd figure it out somehow. :)

Probably the best thing to do would be to figure out a good way to shoot the pic before you make a cast. Honestly, even if you held the fish against your body with one hand and held the camera out with your other so your face and some of the fish could be seen in the pic, it would qualify.

-Dave

There should be an amendment that if a participant is seen with a dead fish over 40" during the whole season they are automatically disqualified from the tournament and are ineligible to win prizes. :hihi:

I disagree.

These big fish are valuable and should be released regardless of their monetary value. Hopefully the people participating in the tournament share that philosophy and that, rather than fame, prizes, or reward is their primary reason to join.

What you decide to legally kill and keep is your business but why would anyone want to keep a fish over 40"? :hs: That is too many meals from a single bass for a family to eat safely (if the fish happens to be a high toxin level fish then repeated meals from it creates high exposure).

That's a valid point and something I will think about.

My reasoning was if you've got a license and it's 34" it's dead.

But I will give some thought to your idea.

Stick to your guns Dave and keep this "recreational". You have a chance to start something truly unique. Once you include R&R Comm Lic holders it becomes a different ballgame.

DZ

What you decide to legally kill and keep is your business but why would anyone want to keep a fish over 40"? :hs: That is too many meals from a single bass for a family to eat safely (if the fish happens to be a high toxin level fish then repeated meals from it creates high exposure).

They are generally not for one's family to eat. They are to show off on the backs of bikes, to friends, the internets, bait shops, and anyone else that will show them attention for their 'trophy'. Killing for braggers rights I think it's called. :rocketem: But we know that. Sorry getting off topic but not looking forward to the canal fish kills of May and June.

I absolutely love the idea of this tournament! I have my team mate penciled in, just need to work out the details.

I am all for you being able to participate as well, even keeping your eligibility to win prizes. The requirement of a photograph should eliminate any accusations of cheating.

Maybe the site should consider a forum dedicated to pics of released fish only.......as a way to promote the practice. Could certainly include pics from this tourney as well.

Maybe the site should consider a forum dedicated to pics of released fish only.......as a way to promote the practice. Could certainly include pics from this tourney as well.

Already in the works :)
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Stick to your guns Dave and keep this "recreational". You have a chance to start something truly unique. Once you include R&R Comm Lic holders it becomes a different ballgame.

DZ

That's the decision I came to as well Dennis. But it was an angle worth considering. Ultimately, as you say, it's about promoting the benefits of C&R and fostering good practices. I have nothing against commercial anglers it's their legal right to do it, but in this tourney, it's all recs.

Thanks for presenting both sides of the argument guys!
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I absolutely love the idea of this tournament! I have my team mate penciled in, just need to work out the details.

I am all for you being able to participate as well, even keeping your eligibility to win prizes. The requirement of a photograph should eliminate any accusations of cheating.

I appreciate that, but Im not going to take any prizes. It just seems wrong. But Team GoTight will be competing. :uhuh:
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There should be an amendment that if a participant is seen with a dead fish over 40" during the whole season they are automatically disqualified from the tournament and are ineligible to win prizes. :hihi:

I hope this is a "tongue in cheek" comment because if it isn't, I disagree wholeheartedly. It's your business if you want to kill a fish over 40". I'm not advocating it but it's your god given right to keep whatever you want providing you are within the law.

And Bruce, to answer your question about dead bait, if I made it sound like their use is illegal in the rules I made a mistake. I'll review the wording today. Any lure or legal live or dead bait is okay.

Sorry for the confusion
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There should be no pics display because the background such as rocks, sand and water can reveal the location. There should be a non participant of the tourney that is honest, tight lipped and able to gather the pics and data sent to him or her via a pm with a pic upload. In my opinion Canalman Dave would suit this position or a designated nominee with similar attributes.

I hope this is a "tongue in cheek" comment because if it isn't, I disagree wholeheartedly. It's your business if you want to kill a fish over 40". I'm not advocating is but it's your god given right to keep whatever you want providing you are within the law.

I think he was joshing Paul, and don't worry, that will not become a rule. I don't want to remove anyone's right to keep something for food or a trophy.. What I DO want is to make it possible to enter any fish without killing it and not to give people a reason to kill a big fish when they otherwise would have let her swim.
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I think he was joshing Paul, and don't worry, that will not become a rule. I don't want to remove anyone's right to keep something for food or a trophy.. What I DO want is to make it possible to enter any fish without killing it and not to give people a reason to kill a big fish when they otherwise would have let her swim.
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Agree with all you have stated Dave. I'm in and will help support in any way I can

There should be no pics display because the background such as rocks, sand and water can reveal the location. There should be a non participant of the tourney that is honest, tight lipped and able to gather the pics and data sent to him or her via a pm with a pic upload. In my opinion Canalman Dave would suit this position or a designated nominee with similar attributes.

Not going to happen. Part of the fun of this kind of thing is seeing what everyone else has caught. When I shoot pics I just make sure there are no obvious landmarks in the background. It's your responsibility to protect your spots. But the photos have to be made public for this to work.
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Agree with all you have stated Dave. I'm in and will help support in any way I can

Thanks Paul
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Not going to happen. Part of the fun of this kind of thing is seeing what everyone else has caught. When I shoot pics I just make sure there are no obvious landmarks in the background. It's your responsibility to protect your spots. But the photos have to be made public for this to work.
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Great idea about removing obvious landmarks, problem solved

You'll have to figure something out. Set the camera on timer or something. It doesn't have to be an award winning cover photo, but if I had it so you only had to take one pic, you could pass the tournament tags out to everyone on the beach and have them all shoot pics for you... know what I mean? I fish alone a lot, but I'd figure it out somehow. :)

Probably the best thing to do would be to figure out a good way to shoot the pic before you make a cast. Honestly, even if you held the fish against your body with one hand and held the camera out with your other so your face and some of the fish could be seen in the pic, it would qualify.

-Dave

Sounds extremely reasonable....thanks!
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"Good on ya" Dave and John

New promotional flyer...http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534144_609049532458298_764387250_n.jpg

Wow, that's big... didn't meant to blanket the entire thread!

Wow, that's big... didn't meant to blanket the entire thread!

No Problem - we'll make more :rotf2:

Great idea for the tourney. As far as pictures go, they make those little plastic tripods that are 6" in length by 2" in diameter. Camera fits right on top of it with a snap in piece. The tripod easily stashes away in a plug bag tube.

Never thought of that...

Do you mean something like this?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71wl9lSfcbL._SL1500_.jpg


Amazon.com: Zeikos ZE-TR5A Flexible Tripod: Camera & Photo (http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-TR5A-Flexible-Tripod/dp/B002HZJ1T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1365459132&sr=8-10&keywords=mini+tripod)

There I go with GIANT images again

Great idea for the tourney. As far as pictures go, they make those little plastic tripods that are 6" in length by 2" in diameter. Camera fits right on top of it with a snap in piece. The tripod easily stashes away in a plug bag tube.

Interesting, this is something I need to get. I'm always scrambling to find a good rock to put my camera on top of for all my self portraits.
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Never thought of that...

Do you mean something like this?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71wl9lSfcbL._SL1500_.jpg


Amazon.com: Zeikos ZE-TR5A Flexible Tripod: Camera & Photo (http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-TR5A-Flexible-Tripod/dp/B002HZJ1T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1365459132&sr=8-10&keywords=mini+tripod)

Yes, I have something like that and it works perfect. I set it up in the same places each time and use the 10 second timer on the camera. I have areas where I know to stand ahead of time so it works out perfect. I usually am able to keep the fish in the water the whole time too, so they can be released in good shape. Only time it sucks is if youre out a ways wetsuitting...

Never thought of that...

Do you mean something like this?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71wl9lSfcbL._SL1500_.jpg


Amazon.com: Zeikos ZE-TR5A Flexible Tripod: Camera & Photo (http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-TR5A-Flexible-Tripod/dp/B002HZJ1T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1365459132&sr=8-10&keywords=mini+tripod)

You can find those small tripods at the dollar stores (grab a few), this way when you loose it or it rusts out it didn't cost you much. :rotf2:

I'll be taking that advice for sure

I've added a club affiliation feature now as well, now we can have a Team S-B and compete against other clubs.
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I'm in! Gotta find a dedicated fishing partner that can catch fish.
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I'm in! Gotta find a dedicated fishing partner that can catch fish.
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They don't have to catch fish..that's why Slips on my team, like golf its a handicap.
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:laughs:
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I'm in! Gotta find a dedicated fishing partner that can catch fish.
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Thats funny dude :)
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Gotta find a partner... got a club meeting Tuesday we'll see than
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The Saltwater Edge added a pile of stuff to the prize lists yesterday.

First and foremost, they are offering up a Shimano Tranx for the Cow Hunt grand prize in the Boat category!

Then they threw in gift certificates for...

All four placing teams in the Surfcaster's Classic

$100 for each member of the team that wins the weekend they are sponsoring! (8/1 - 8/4)

$50 for each youth category winner

For a full breakdown of the prizes so far, Click Here (http://www.gotight.net/prizes.html).

You can use anything you want that's legal Bruce, no white abalone or sealacamp! :hihi: but eelskins are cool

my skins aren't too cool anymore unfortunately, the fridge died and I had to toss a bunch of them.

I was looking for the comment about embedding the tourney tag in your photo's with your iphone, how is that even possible?

my skins aren't too cool anymore unfortunately, the fridge died and I had to toss a bunch of them.

I was looking for the comment about embedding the tourney tag in your photo's with your iphone, how is that even possible?

Interesting thought - you could probably find a watermark app. Not sure if Dave wants to do that though as he would need to make a watermark for different apps periodically and maybe only a handful using it.

I found this on the rules page

TOURNAMENT TAGS:
28. The weekly TOURNAMENT TAG will be uploaded to a secure location in the wee hours of each Thursday morning. TAGS must be included in the photo for each fish entered into the tournament. You may also download it onto your cell phone and show the TAG on your phone screen in the photo as well.

How about an example ahead of time of how to do this and an explanation with simple directions?
is that possible Dave?
thanks

I think he means use a camera(not your cell phone) to take a picture of the fish ,and include your phone in the picture with the tournament tag shown on the screen.

You could also print the tag ahead of time and show it in the picture. Which might be tough in a wetsuit... The only obvious solution is to get temporary tattoos made for each round and put it on your bicep... then flex for the photo!

Ahhhhhh
I see
I guess I failed communication class

nevermind

thank you Andy for speaking in single syllables in Bruce speak :)

As a thought, use video mode on your cell phone. Video the tag, pan over to the striper then pan to the mug and say cheese. Afterwards upload to a private youtube account.
Unfortunately this is not a rule.
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(If I missed this in the rules, i apologize):

*When will results from the weekend be posted?
*Are the results viewable by anyone or just those registered in the tourny?

Anytime Bruce, I know your teknolijcalee challenged!

I'm thinking about joining, so if anyone needs a partner let me know

Dave, maybe this was already asked, but is the cow hunt separate for shore and boat anglers? Or are they both, shore and boat, competing against one another.

Thanks for all your hard work on this.

Dave, due to some shoulder surgery I wont be able to fish until early July, but would like to fill in as an alternate if needed when I return. Do I need to register the same as someone fishing start to finish, or is there a different protcol? I know you are busy, so if anyone wants to chime in if they know, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

Man, I have neglected this post!

OK. The only way to use your phone to store the tag is to save it, bring the TAG up on your screen and photograph it in the shot with your fish and tape. But you need a second camera or phone. No watermarks.

Videos are eligible for entry RSTICKET.

Printing the TAG is strongly encouraged, it's just better and shows up better in the photos. I would recommend printing 5-6 and storing your tag in a heavy-duty Ziploc or some leader wallets, like the ones made by MAK have a waterproof zipper on each page, just slide the TAG in there and it will be safe.

As for posting the results and who can see them. Entries will be posted as they come in and they will be public. Final results will be posted every Monday morning.

Massbassman - The signup deadline is July 31 for teams and Sept 12 for individuals so you can sign up anytime pretty much. As for fishing as an alternate--if a team needs an alternate and they select you, that's fine, no need to register, but you won't be eligible for any prizes if you don't.

Week One starts tomorrow at Sunrise...

To be eligible for week one you have to be signed up by 5 p.m. today. We have 23 teams and 50 individuals total signed up. There are I think 4 S-B affiliated teams, but we need more!

Check out the tournament headquarters page here for all of the details.

Tournament Central - GoTight.Net (http://www.gotight.net/tournament-central.html)

We are closing in on $8000 in prizes to give away including Century Rods, a Van Staal 250, Stormr Jackets, Tons of Gift Certs from The Saltwater Edge, Guppy Lures, MAK Surfcasting, Super Strike Lures, Rivers End Tackle, The Fisherman Magazine, Surfcaster's Journal, Afterhours Plugs, J.Stirpe Plugs, RM Smith Plugs, Linesider69 Plugs, Couch's Cedar Works and Loki Lures.

Thanks Dave!
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Great job putting this together Dave, it has to be one big pain in the ass organizing this and dealing with all the questions/problems. Thank you, I know I'm looking forward to it.

I'm a sick man, because I enjoy it. At least so far :angel:

Anyone who's signed up, I sent out an email about 20 minutes ago with information about submitting your catch and downloading this week's TAG. If you didn't get it check your SPAM folder and if you still don't see it or if you have any trouble retrieving the TAG, PM me here, message me on Facebook or email me dave(at)gotight.net

Lines in at 5:30 tomorrow morning... I'm getting excited!

ALSO, anyone with kids who like to fish, sign them up it's FREE and I'm working out the details on some really awesome prizes. We need more kids to fall in love with fishing or it's going to disappear when we're all gone and our children will get sucked into a technology coma and come out the other end 45 years old, 450 pounds and with the complexion of a ball of pizza dough!