News reporting 2 explosions at Boston Marathon

Some injuries??

We live in a sick world. Just heard of this. Hope to god it's not as bad as it sounds.

Its bad.Over 30 injured and three dead as reported on the news as of now.

Terrorists never sleep.

third device found at Marriott Boston is reported

BPD calling 2 dead 23 injured - only an hour in
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One of my techs and his girlfriend were running there today, they went in with the New Bedford runners club. Just got a call, the bus for NBRC is leaving with 5 unnacounted for they are two of those 5. Others in the group are conrirmed schrapnel injuries...

At least 30 people lost a leg.
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Cowards

Andy, I hope they are alright , maybe just got routed someplace else hopefully.

I heard this on the radio on my way home the whole drive back from Weston, on rt 24 while I was headed south, about 7-8 cruisers were speeding towards Boston on the northbound side.
Unbelievable what kind of sick people would do these kinds of things:smash: just awful.

Thoughts and prayers for those injured or killed



I just heard another event happened at the JFK library

Commish is saying that there was a third explosion @ JFK library... previously reported as an unrelated electrical fire

the "T" word has not been used in any news briefs

They just said Cell phone service has been shut down in Boston due to fear of further devices that could be set off with a cell phone.


that will make finding people even harder obviously



definitely terrorists if you ask me, what the hell else would it be

definitely terrorists if you ask me, what the hell else would it be
Of course this is an act of terrorism. What's not being mentioned is if it was carried out by Muslim extremists.
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Could have been a crazy us citizen.
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yep
could be

no shortage of whackjobs in this country or the world unfortunately

Person of interest in custody
Listening to Boston police scanner. Alot of scary stuff going on 46 injured , expected to climb . Bs game cancelled
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wifey said there was a convoy of ambulances coming into the hospital

I am now told they are on the bus, rerouted and made their way to the bus. Good news.

Cowards indeed!
I was working on a rooftop all day in Somerville and Didn't hear or see anything.
On the way off the roof my phone was ringing off the hook,my boss,my wife and parents....
The second explosion location is a building I do a lot of work at.
Driving South bound on the X Way traffic was very thin on the North bound(heading into Boston) Stateies,ambulance's under covers were on the double.

Who ever is responsible for this cowardly act should be fillet.
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Terrible tragedy...many survivors with missing limbs.

I always thought it would happen at a football game where many congragate.

When this calms down who will be blamed for sleeping on the job...where were the bomb sniffing dogs before and during the Marathon?

The act is nothing but pure terrorism.

Those who carried it out are what will have to be determined.

Remember that the Oklahome City bombing was by a homegrown terrorist faction.

Things that make me wonder are that it was Marathon Monday, it is April 15th (tax day) and I believe today is Patriots Day.

Unfortunately sickos will attach themselves to whatever day/event will give them the most coverage.

Whoever/whomever is responsible, their lives aren't worth spit WHEN they are caught!

My prayers go out to all the INNOCENT victims that were affected by this act of cowardice.

Horrific end to a usually awesome day. I live on the route 4 miles from the start, and its hard to comprehend that one of these happy faces I saw run by, may have lost a loved one today. T&P's to all those families.
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http://sharing.wpri.com/sharewlin//photo/2013/04/15/ap-boston-marathon-explosion_20130415153922_640_480.JPG
THE BLUE MM DEFINATELY LOOKS SHADY. I BET HE ENDS UP ON A WATERBOARD.
Definately saying some prayers for everyone affected by this cowardly act.

waco tx feb 28th- april 19th as well. a lot of f-ed up people out there

Too many people complain they want their privacy. We are living in a world where we need to let our govt do what they need to do to protect our lives and have our privacy be 2nd in line. I'd rather be alive and spied on than dead and private. Not saying it would have helped any here by any means. This whole thing is a horrible chit show
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I work in Cambridge and take the train out of North Station - decided to walk to North Station rather than the subway ... in part because the Green Line was shut down in sections and it's only a 20-minute walk ... but on that walk there was a lot of confusion, police cars racing from other towns to the scene, other police cars racing in opposite directions, when I got near North Station, cars were undergoing searches at the Garden ... crazy stuff.

But I must say, that the police and fire department did not hesitate to get to the scene to help the injured and ensure people were protected ... despite the criticisms above about no-bomb sniffing dogs being used, I am grateful for our police and fire departments coming to help ... every day these people put themselves in harms way to help protect us ... can't say thank you enough to them.

IMHO - We should be thanking them, not criticizing them.

I haven't seen anyone criticizing them?
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I don't think anyone was "sleeping on the job". Someone probably strolled in with a couple of bags, dumped them in trashcans, then flipped a switch. Quick. How does one defend against that?

The entire area was searched by dogs before the race, anyway.
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Too many people complain they want their privacy. We are living in a world where we need to let our govt do what they need to do to protect our lives and have our privacy be 2nd in line. I'd rather be alive and spied on than dead and private. Not saying it would have helped any here by any means. This whole thing is a horrible chit show
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It's a new world, not the one I grew up in and certainly not that of the previous generation. IMHO if the founding fathers new what was to come we'd have the instructions on how to change. We need to give up a little,,,, guns for one
I'm pissed off, Gup

A holes from all over the world and internally are now using random mass violence to push agendas or simply get famous and you want to take away the guns we might need to defend ourselves? Man , sometimes I think I woke up on a different planet.

A holes from all over the world and internally are now using random mass violence to push agendas or simply get famous and you want to take away the guns we might need to defend ourselves? Man , sometimes I think I woke up on a different planet.

I said nothing about guns. But yes you woke up on a different planet. That planet is going further to crap every day we all wake up.
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Gup, I'll be locked and loaded,thank you for offering up my God given rights.
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Gup, I'll be locked and loaded,thank you for offering up my God given rights.
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You really believe God gave you the right to own a gun?
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Yes,it's my God-given and natural right to defend my family and self.Who else will do it?When danger is seconds away the police are only minutes away.I'm a Cherokee my Ancestors enjoyed the "social engineering".If the day comes please volunteer to collect the 300 million guns.
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Yes it is a god given right...the constitution was written to protect that right, so the government does not try to take it away.

The guys that blow stuff up also believe in god. There are many gods. I guess all gods believe in guns, even thought when they were supposedly alive there were no guns. Makes sense to me.
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My God is alive.Have a good night.
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Yes,it's my God-given and natural right to defend my family and self.Who else will do it?When danger is seconds away the police are only minutes away.I'm a Cherokee my Ancestors enjoyed the "social engineering".If the day comes please volunteer to collect the 300 million guns.
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Ill ask again.
You really believe God gave you the right to own a gun?
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My God is alive.Have a good night.
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Which god is your god? Any pics? Any proof he wanted you to own guns?
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Having a Gun would not have prevented the incident in Boston today. I hope they catch the SOB.

Having a Gun would not have prevented the incident in Boston today. I hope they catch the SOB.

Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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:smash:

God didn't want us to have guns. He only wanted us to Love one another.
The "God-given right" thing,..... I've always thought to be a misunderstanding of the Declaration of Independence due to the "unalienable rights" mention from our "Creator".

Ugly world we've changed this Garden into. God help us all.

My little sister works for BAA and was right near this mess when it happened.
She had been sitting in the bleachers directly above one of the un-detonated devices that was found (it was found 30min after she moved). Watching the media coverage sure feels different when you have a personal connection.

So scary.

Cowards for sure.

OK - please take time to focus on the topic at hand - move the gun / political talk off to the appropriate places.

Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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I think it happened when someone said to take away the guns - because that would of prevented this.

My little sister works for BAA and was right near this mess when it happened.
She had been sitting in the bleachers directly above one of the un-detonated devices that was found (it was found 30min after she moved). Watching the media coverage sure feels different when you have a personal connection.

So scary.

Cowards for sure.

Glad she and many others made it out OK.

And when he awoke,he said;Let them have guns!

I am now told they are on the bus, rerouted and made their way to the bus. Good news.

Glad to hear, I have more work for you guys anyhow. ;)

My guess it is home-grown a s # h # l # s. Wouldn't be surpirsed if it was connected to an incident that happened recently.

In the aftermath of this absolutley horrific act, its a positive to see the way the city is coming together. The city officials, law/fire, residents, all coming together and trying to help anyone that needs it. Really shows a sense of what our community is about. Now we just hope they catch this sick bastard and do unspeakable things to him.

Too many people complain they want their privacy. We are living in a world where we need to let our govt do what they need to do to protect our lives and have our privacy be 2nd in line. I'd rather be alive and spied on than dead and private. Not saying it would have helped any here by any means. This whole thing is a horrible chit show
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It's a new world, not the one I grew up in and certainly not that of the previous generation. IMHO if the founding fathers new what was to come we'd have the instructions on how to change. We need to give up a little,,,, guns for one
I'm pissed off, Gup
One of those Founding Fathers Guppy claims would have provided "the instructions on how to change" once said: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

When people start saying "yes, please take my rights if doing so will provide me the illusion of being safe", the people that commit these acts of terror have won. During Katrina, most civil rights were stripped away. Illegal state-sanctioned confiscation of weapons took place and then the only people left with their weapons (law enforcement) were also the ones killing innocent people on bridges and in their homes.

One of those Founding Fathers Guppy claims would have provided "the instructions on how to change" once said: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

When people start saying "yes, please take my rights if doing so will provide me the illusion of being safe", the people that commit these acts of terror have won. During Katrina, most civil rights were stripped away. Illegal state-sanctioned confiscation of weapons took place and then the only people left with their weapons (law enforcement) were also the ones killing innocent people on bridges and in their homes.

Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.

A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.

What I'm trying to say is, STFU.

waco tx feb 28th- april 19th as well. a lot of f-ed up people out there

hey now, seems to me a lot more violence and bloodshed is happening in your neck of the woods lately.

I was home working on my boat... fiberglassing the foredeck, enjoying the day and the red sox victory when the news came accross sports radio...having run that particular marathon 5 times ... I was thinking what can I do to help those that were experiencing such joy one minute and such horror the next...my only thought was to give blood.. something I do regualry anyway... I encorage others that want to help in some small way to do the same.... the blood you donate just might save a life...

I was home working on my boat... fiberglassing the foredeck, enjoying the day and the red sox victory when the news came accross sports radio...having run that particular marathon 5 times ... I was thinking what can I do to help those that were experiencing such joy one minute and such horror the next...my only thought was to give blood.. something I do regualry anyway... I encorage others that want to help in some small way to do the same.... the blood you donate just might save a life...

Red Cross is taking donations, there's a huge network on reddit and twitter of people offering rides/airline miles to folks to get home, etc. etc.

A couple local joints are donating proceeds to Red Cross.

Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.

A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.

What I'm trying to say is, STFU.


Agreed. Politics and rhetoric should be set aside for at least 48 hours post incident. All this bull#^&#^&#^&#^& gun drama accomplishes nothing but creating more hard feelings.
Lets keep it where it belongs......the scuppers or political forum.
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Red Cross is taking donations, there's a huge network on reddit and twitter of people offering rides/airline miles to folks to get home, etc. etc.

A couple local joints are donating proceeds to Red Cross.

LW - wouldnt most people have tickets to get home already? How did this tradgey affect travel? I didnt think this was that widespread of an event where we had need for supplies (other than blood)? Im not being an ass, just dont understand from a logistics standoint. This wasnt an earthquake or a tornado. What supplies are needed>

LW - wouldnt most people have tickets to get home already? How did this tradgey affect travel? I didnt think this was that widespread of an event where we had need for supplies (other than blood)? Im not being an ass, just dont understand from a logistics standoint. This wasnt an earthquake or a tornado. What supplies are needed>

Folks who lost their stuff/ended up in the hospital and missed their flight/etc. etc.

Airlines are waiving reschedule fees thankfully so hopefully those that got stuck/missed flights for one reason or another are getting hooked up.

In a recent thread I joked about hitting 100 posts,,,, someone called me a "rookie" LOL

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! :smash:

If I'm not banned, I'll try not to speak when I'm P O'd again and apologize for creating a chit storm out of your original post JR.

Still P O'd, Gup

Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.

A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.

What I'm trying to say is, STFU.
While I agree with you that the bs has no place here I am amused you selectively picked JDs post ( the only one that was well thought out ) to take your stand. Maybe you need to STFU :)
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we often see the best in people during the worst of times... T's & P's to everyone affected.

I work about 200 yards from where the bombs went off. Building shook when the bombs went off, and I got to the window and saw the smoke rising. Have been through that section of Boylston for many years of marathons, but luckily not this year. Sadly, I remember thinking a year or two back that if I was a bad guy it would be a perfect place to take out a lot of people easily. Looks like the bad guys thought the same thing.

I know gun control is top of mind right now, but as someone said earlier in this thread....there is a little kid dead. Eight year old boy, same age as my youngest son. Other kids' parents are dead. There are a bunch of people missing arms and legs. Save the gun control debate for another time. To me it's just a matter of respect for people who have died or have had thier lives changed forever.

Peace.

Folks who lost their stuff/ended up in the hospital and missed their flight/etc. etc.

Airlines are waiving reschedule fees thankfully so hopefully those that got stuck/missed flights for one reason or another are getting hooked up.

makes sense, thanks

LW - wouldnt most people have tickets to get home already? How did this tradgey affect travel? I didnt think this was that widespread of an event where we had need for supplies (other than blood)? Im not being an ass, just dont understand from a logistics standoint. This wasnt an earthquake or a tornado. What supplies are needed>

Might not Have anything to do with getting home....150 injured...they may be staying here awhile in hospitals, might want to help families come out here to stay with their injured relatives.

People just want to help, anyway they think they can....giving miles to help somebody come out makes them feel good...nice article in the paper today about people offering up their homes for people to stay if they need to.....probably not to many will take them up on it...still makes people feel good that they offered....

Back on topic, debate the other issues later / in a different thread.

Let us get the facts to be investigate, reported, and then dealt with. Give thanks, respect, and prayers (if you do that) to those that need it.

For the individual that reported this thread as trolling, please don't add fuel to the fire.

In a recent thread I joked about hitting 100 posts,,,, someone called me a "rookie" LOL

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! :smash:

If I'm not banned, I'll try not to speak when I'm P O'd again and apologize for creating a chit storm out of your original post JR.

Still P O'd, Gup

I wouldn't worry about it. We are all PO'd and have our own opinions. It was a very easy thread to get side-railed

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They are reporting that the devices were made from pressure cookers with metal and ball breeaing for debri.

That should help in narrowing their search.
Add to that any video footage from the stores on that street and they should hopefully be able to find who the culprits are.

I would imagine that they could be able to figure out what brand/model of cooker was used, and look for possible purchase points and go from there.

forensic science is definitely a big help in these matters.

we often see the best in people during the worst of times... T's & P's to everyone affected.

Agreed. Too bad that empathy, which we display so selflessly at the worst of times, doesn't seem to last.

Hopefully the feds will do a better job catching these terrorists than they did in Benghazi.

makes sense, thanks

Also car rides, places to stay, food, phone/internet etc. has all been offered, really awesome of the Bostonians. :)

They are reporting that the devices were made from pressure cookers with metal and ball breeaing for debri.

That should help in narrowing their search.
Add to that any video footage from the stores on that street and they should hopefully be able to find who the culprits are.

I would imagine that they could be able to figure out what brand/model of cooker was used, and look for possible purchase points and go from there.

forensic science is definitely a big help in these matters.

Not that it means anything, but pressure cooker bombs have been used by terrorists in the past. Still curious to hear if anyone will claim responsibility for this.

Just announced, $50,000 reward for info leading to the capture of whoever did this.

Not that it means anything, but pressure cooker bombs have been used by terrorists in the past. Still curious to hear if anyone will claim responsibility for this.

I think the pressure cookers are usually used as rudimentary timing devices.

I bet those responsible will get caught. That's not the same thing as someone taking responsibility before getting caught.

I think the pressure cookers are usually used as rudimentary timing devices.

I bet those responsible will get caught. That's not the same thing as someone taking responsibility before getting caught.


I'm sure they'll get whoever's responsible. They might have a person or people in custody already but aren't making it public yet. What I meant was that terrorist groups usually claim responsibility by now if they're behind a bombing.

I'm trying to imagine how much, and what kind, of explosive propellant would be required to get ball bearings (or small lead shot, or whatever), moving at sufficient velocity to take off limbs, bone and all. The femur is one of the biggest, and strongest, bones in a human body. I've seen the results of a 12 gauge blast taking off a hand, but a femur?

It had to be one powerful device, I would think. I'm kind of doubting that it was the handiwork of a rank amateur.

I'm trying to imagine how much, and what kind, of explosive propellant would be required to get ball bearings (or small lead shot, or whatever), moving at sufficient velocity to take off limbs, bone and all. The femur is one of the biggest, and strongest, bones in a human body. I've seen the results of a 12 gauge blast taking off a hand, but a femur?

It had to be one powerful device, I would think. I'm kind of doubting that it was the handiwork of a rank amateur.


I was watching one of the talking heads last night stating this was a "low power" explosive device which would propel a ball bearinbg at 7,000 feet per second, as opposed to a high powered explosive propelling an object at 25K feet per second. The head then stated a rifle shot is on the order of 1200-1300 feet per second (familiar with this).

This stuff is well out of my wheel house and I have no idea how accurate the talking head was but it lines up a bit with what is being discussed. So take it for what it is worth and what you paid for it ;)

I'm trying to imagine how much, and what kind, of explosive propellant would be required to get ball bearings (or small lead shot, or whatever), moving at sufficient velocity to take off limbs, bone and all. The femur is one of the biggest, and strongest, bones in a human body. I've seen the results of a 12 gauge blast taking off a hand, but a femur?

It had to be one powerful device, I would think. I'm kind of doubting that it was the handiwork of a rank amateur.

black powder is sufficiently powerful enough and either cheap or easy to make. from what i've been told, this is amateur woodsman homegrown stuff. the other side likes the high speed binaries that cause massive internal trauma without the need for shrapnel.

I'm sure they'll get whoever's responsible. They might have a person or people in custody already but aren't making it public yet. What I meant was that terrorist groups usually claim responsibility by now if they're behind a bombing.

I agree.
I don't want to sound all "NCIS" here, but when an overseas terrorist group pulls a stunt like this, there is usually some kind of "chatter" between members and between cells (for attack coordination).
There has been no mention of any communication/chattr involving this attack. No one has laid claim to this one as well.

I can only imagine that whatever propellent that was used was probably tested for its effectiveness beforehand. That would also explain the pressure cooker device. Low power explosive in a pressure cooker will build up sufficient force that when released, will increase the force of the blast.

Maybe when they get those responsible we can try our own experiments with "propellents" on them?

It doesn't have to be C 4 to cause all that damage. When the bomb goes off inside of the pressure cooker it builds force prior to causing the cooker to expand and as we all know, blowup. How large the amount of propellant used, the greater the demand for oxygen, more oxygen needed, greater area of destruction. I think we'll find thats where the blast force/propellant enters into it. Low speed bombs, 3300 ft. per second or less, can be extremely damaging. There were nails, BB's, bearings and what not inside of these packages. See the damage to the bodies that were done, and you'll know longer wonder why so many limbs were lost in the civil war from ball bearing being fired from muskets at low speed.


I have deep admiration for those peole who ran into the fire, so to speak, and did not shrink when it was time. There were a huge number of very courageous individuals that acted without concern for themselves after the bombing. Police and firefighters, and EMS are paid to act, but the civilians to do what they did without thought of injury to themselves is an extremely selfless act.

When the POS is caught, he'll be charged federally, so a more appropriate justice will be handed down.

I agree as well, and when the person/persons are caught, and are found guilty in accordance of the law, they are show the same measure of compassion and mercy they showed (to the innocent victims) when they get the death sentence. I say this crime is definitely worthy of the chair, or getting strung up as it were.

I need to go fishing to get this out of my head, at least for a few hours.....

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How about this whole thread gets permanently deleted. We are all seeing it at work, on the radio, and on the news when we get home. It's depressing. We all know it happened. I say when we come here to talk about fishing, we talk about fishing and other things related to the site.??
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I agree W.M. Let's stick to fishing.My brother was working the medical tent at the finish line and I was worked up.Finest kind.Good Night.
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Anyone who attacks inocence like that should be put infront of a firing squad.Only scumbags do things like that.they want to pick a fight pick one with the people that can fight back.Dirtbags an cowards are one an the same.

How about this whole thread gets permanently deleted. We are all seeing it at work, on the radio, and on the news when we get home. It's depressing. We all know it happened. I say when we come here to talk about fishing, we talk about fishing and other things related to the site.??
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I agree W.M. Let's stick to fishing.My brother was working the medical tent at the finish line and I was worked up.Finest kind.Good Night.
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I respectfully disagree. This is more than a fishing site. It's an internet community and in many respects, a family. Families talk stuff out during a time of crisis.

If you're suffering from media overload, you don't have to click on the thread.

2X that Westport.

:deadhorse:

I'm planning on hitting a small stocked trout pond after work, with hopes of landing one of the 3-5 lbers that may be still there after Sundays's derby.

I was there when the private fishery truck showed up to dump the 100+ trout in on Saturday. There were about a dozen large trout amongst the remaining cookie-cutter fish.

I'll see how things go tonight.

And then there's this weekend with the possibility of either kayaking or surfcasting.

Sounds like an arrest has been made/ or imminent.

Yup, reportedly an arrest has just been made.

Give him a speedy trial with good representation and then execute him.

Now they are saying no arrest, or POI in custody. Information moves so fast it's hard to keep it all straight.

It's pretty wild how they supposedly id'd this guy. Had a shot of him on a surveillance tape and it showed him on a cell phone. They went and pulled all the logs of calls made during that time frame which originated in that area. Then they cross referenced the names with pictures of the people who owned the phones and matched it up to the surveillance pics.
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Crazy about the reporting as I also read a few different pieces in the last few minutes that contradicted themselves ... that have been updated within the last few minutes.

It's pretty wild how they supposedly id'd this guy. Had a shot of him on a surveillance tape and it showed him on a cell phone. They went and pulled all the logs of calls made during that time frame which originated in that area. Then they cross referenced the names with pictures of the people who owned the phones and matched it up to the surveillance pics.
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while that is totally awesome.. our media in its carnivorous and somewhat cannibalistic craze to get stories often forgets that they are helping the next ass hole get away with something like this. 'ok.. i wont use my cell phone' or... i better use a track phone with no name associated with it.. Some things are better off left unsaid.

They just evacuated the federal courthouse.....

They also just drove up to the courthouse in a gray van with Federal Marshall's hanging off the outside of the van.

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Just put his pic out there. He'll be caught shortly thereafter, and maybe thier might be something left for the ME and not the ER.

Gotta love the wild goose chase the media puts you through......I've been watching them change there story over and over and over again....
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I respectfully disagree. This is more than a fishing site. It's an internet community and in many respects, a family. Families talk stuff out during a time of crisis.

If you're suffering from media overload, you don't have to click on the thread.

Your right. At least it was moved from the fishing forum

while that is totally awesome.. our media in its carnivorous and somewhat cannibalistic craze to get stories often forgets that they are helping the next ass hole get away with something like this. 'ok.. i wont use my cell phone' or... i better use a track phone with no name associated with it.. Some things are better off left unsaid.

Yep. One of the costs of a free society, an often dumb press.

Some things are better off left unsaid.

I agree. I trust our govern. I don't need to know that they got him b/c of his cell phone or the cameras.

There are two rules in life.
1 . Never tell anyone everything you know.
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while that is totally awesome.. our media in its carnivorous and somewhat cannibalistic craze to get stories often forgets that they are helping the next ass hole get away with something like this. 'ok.. i wont use my cell phone' or... i better use a track phone with no name associated with it.. Some things are better off left unsaid.

I used to say the same thing about shows like 24....season after season of ideas.....

me too TDF, but this is real life media, seems like they barely have a filter.


My theory so far is they have one guy in custody and are waiting for Jack Bauer to come in and get the info out of him to nail the other one

I just read and I don't know if its true that we just deported the first Saudi national that was hospitalized.
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I just read and I don't know if its true that we just deported the first Saudi national that was hospitalized.
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I heard that on the radio also

seems very odd

poor guy was probably just a victim himself and was mistaken for a bad guy because he was running away much like hundreds of others

Where did you read it?

SOL... my main news source :hihi:
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Most trusted news source.

Unless the guy agreed to it, you can't "just deport" someone. Detainees are entitled to a hearing before they can be deported. Even if the guy is totally illegal, once he's taken into custody, he's entitled to a first hearing in front of an immigration judge to determine if he's suitable for release pending a final deportation hearing.

Sounds like quality NYPost material

True. Which is why I said " if it is true"
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http://deadspin.com/the-boston-bombing-witch-hunt-bags-another-innocent-kid-476001019

Until there is a news conference where they show the persons pictures and mug shots, I don't care what the media says of does since they are really only reporting what they think will get them the best ratings.

Of course every station is showing just about the same thing as every other station, so they have to resort to a little "embellishing" of the story to get their ratings. So what if they comdemn an innocent man by false reporting his involvement in this crime, Ooops! We'll just retract our statement and everything will be fine, right?.

I wish the media had as much integrity as they claim they have, and not as much as a crackwhore looking for their next fix!

The current media-driven drivel has caused me to change where I get my news to guarantee integrity, accuracy and class......which is NO WHERE!!!

I take every bit of news with a heavy dose of skepticism, because there are no worthy news outlets left, short of writing the news yourself!

Latest rumor I heard is the media did it....................sort of like fireman and fires














Just reporting the news as I imagine it

Well, now we have the pictures... I'm less inclined to believe it was homegrown wackos than I was before...
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Dead men walking....

Those pics and video are now distributed worldwide

hopefully image clarification software will enhance those photo's

i noticed that the red hat suspect looked like he received a
text message within that film... easily timed if you figure out
who was wearing Orange in the marathon there ,
because it's so precisely a timed event

hopefully image clarification software will enhance those photo's

i noticed that the red hat suspect looked like he received a
text message within that film... easily timed if you figure out
who was wearing Orange in the marathon there ,
because it's so precisely a timed event

Red hat?
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Well, now we have the pictures... I'm less inclined to believe it was homegrown wackos than I was before...
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As an indian (hindi) friend likes to say

ALL BROWN THE SAME

And if reports are right, one of them was born and raised right outside of philly, and not of the ethnic group YOU think.

Until they're arrested and their true identities confirmed and released, I'm not going to assume anything about their ethnicity.

And if reports are right, one of them was born and raised right outside of philly, and not of the ethnic group YOU think.

Where did you the part about Philly, I didn't see that info yet.
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Where did you read/hear the part about Philly, I didn't see that info yet.
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As an indian (hindi) friend likes to say

ALL BROWN THE SAME

And if reports are right, one of them was born and raised right outside of philly, and not of the ethnic group YOU think.

I sincerly doubt it is the kid from Brown - bomber is short, philly kid is tall. though they do match up well in certain ways. #^&#^&#^&#^&.

Interesting crowd sourcing on reddit though, otherwise. hats nailked, more photos of the perps walking away.

Dead men walking....

Those pics and video are now distributed worldwide

Hopefully they are still in Boston and the mob finds them before local authority. At least it will be a long slow tortured death that won't involve our tax money.
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Major crap going down in Watertown.
One in custody?

Sounds like its a warzone out there... Holy #^&#^&#^&#^&
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Bet second suspect doesn't get out alive either.... and I am headed to the airport.

I think we need a little "Game of Thrones" message sent....put their heads on Pikes leading into the city. One on the Tobin Bridge and one on the Zakim-Bunker Hill Bridge.....

Major crap going down in Watertown.
One in custody?

One dead one on the loose
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Well, now we have the pictures... I'm less inclined to believe it was homegrown wackos than I was before...
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The Associated Press has identified them as being from Chechnya.....

"The suspects were identified to The Associated Press as coming from the Russian region near Chechnya, which has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency stemming from separatist wars. A law enforcement intelligence bulletin obtained by the AP identified the surviving bomb suspect as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, a 19-year-old who had been living in Cambridge, just outside Boston, and said he "may be armed and dangerous.

Two law enforcement officials told the AP that Tsarnaev and the other suspect, who was not immediately identified, had been living legally in the U.S. for at least one year."

The Associated Press has identified them as being from Chechnya.....

"The suspects were identified to The Associated Press as coming from the Russian region near Chechnya, which has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency stemming from separatist wars. A law enforcement intelligence bulletin obtained by the AP identified the surviving bomb suspect as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, a 19-year-old who had been living in Cambridge, just outside Boston, and said he "may be armed and dangerous.

Two law enforcement officials told the AP that Tsarnaev and the other suspect, who was not immediately identified, had been living legally in the U.S. for at least one year."

The City of Cambridge has announced the 2011 City Scholarship recipients for seniors at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School and others pursuing higher education.

The city is awarding the $2,500 scholarships to 45 students using contributions from citizens and businesses. About 35 to 45 scholarships are awarded each year, according to the city.

This year’s recipients will be honored at a ceremony and reception May 16 at 4 p.m. in the Sullivan Chamber of Cambridge City Hall, 795 Massachusetts Avenue.

The 2011 Recipients:
Sarah Adkins, Arjun Agarwala, Jason Tang, Neyka Alexandre, Paola Arias Sanabria, Ty Atkin, Ariane Berelowitch, Samuel Borrus, Samisa Brioso, Joan Brunetta, Gina Chen, Gwendolyn Child, Abina Cohen, Kayla Coleman, Katrina Cooper, Judy Cortes, Anne-Marie Denis, Sira Fati, Jillian Felie, Hannah Firestone, Carlos Galvao, Kidan Gebremedhin, Yordanos Gebremichl, Adam Gelaw, Lillianna Griggs, David Guan, Pouchy Guerrier, Michael Sferza-Lewis, Hichem Hadjeres, Regina Hallisey, Pasang Lhamo, Rebecca Loh, Rebecca Mazur, Amatullah Mervin, Kathleen Mullen, Suryani Dewa Ayu, Liam O’Leary, Rebecca Pearce-Probst, Megan Rebello, Rose Schutzberg, Hyun-Wook Seo, Alexandros Stefanakis, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Dorcas Yip, Fesehaye Zewdie.


Rindge Latin teaches terror?

Police scanner apps on smartphones.... Awesome... Tunein radio...
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They've been here 10+ years. This is just weird.
Older one was a boxer looking to get on the US Olympic team, the younger as above seemed to be a smart kid.

Weird crap!

just heard that after the firefight and carjacking, that one brother drove over the other brother

they will find this guy

The older one went to Bunker Hill Community College. Does Robin Williams still teach there?

I know, I just forgot, never use them. :) I just heard them warn all officers that the guy might be wearing a suicide vest. Hope they get him without anyone getting hurt but the scumbag...

Edit: man, busy thread... Was responding to Likwid
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Chasing guy with hoodie not far from CNN cameras... Willow park
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Airport security is doubled(but I am back home). Looks like they have every New England asset placed in Watertown. Lots of bad info being published without verification with regards to who these two really were....

The Media would NEVER do that....:rolleyes:

Future instances like this...Twitter, Facebook and any other Social media sites should be shut down as Standard procedure....

Nitwits are posting on twitter everything they are hearing on the police scanners and pictures of where SWAT/Police are setting up in neighborhoods....WTF

Need to give FBI a lot of credit for breaking this case so quickly....they did a great job

If reports of blood are true, he could be bleeding out or have already bled out. His adrenalin rush could still be in force if alive, but it also has increased his blood pressure for many hours now. He is 19 years old, and that age group is not known for their patience. His ability to maintain that fight or flight function is waning with each tick of the clock. But I could see them making a move within the next two hours.

Supposedly the police had a body laying on the sidewalk in Watertown. Might be the a-hole they were looking for.

kinda funny .... amidst all this violent disgusting acts of terrorism
i was just watching some replays of the watertown video's on CNN
from last night... and a shoot out's going on in the film
and the guy says: they're using real foking guns! ......which wasn't edited out

Mass Ave. Cambridge at noon on a Friday.....

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIOOVqiCAAEQBHr.jpg

I hope this guy feels and realizes the whole world literally is coming down on him. I've never seen such a huge amount of manpower and large manhunt in my life, pretty surreal. As the Pres. said, they'll leave no stone unturned go to the ends of the earth. he will be caught, and I hope it's soon

The problem with a person like this is that with the feeling of the world closing in on him, he may decide to do something rash and really destructive as a "final blow" before he dies.

Secondly, if the report of his dead brother possibly training as a boxer to try and become an olympian, imagine if he had succeeded and did something like this at the Olympics?

I hope they do find the living brother and keep him alive long enough to get whatever info they can BEFORE he is executed (through legal process).

If he does survive, and he is sentenced to anything other than death, then we truly have given up (but we don't realize it).

Keep in mind that the Fort Hood terrorist (09) still gets a check from the Feds and is awaiting trial .
Shoot the punk dead on the street !
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If reports of blood are true, he could be bleeding out or have already bled out. His adrenalin rush could still be in force if alive, but it also has increased his blood pressure for many hours now. He is 19 years old, and that age group is not known for their patience. His ability to maintain that fight or flight function is waning with each tick of the clock. But I could see them making a move within the next two hours.

He's made it this far without being caught. Either very very lucky or very very smart.

He's made it this far without being caught. Either very very lucky or very very smart.

brains can only take you so far.... and sooner or latter... luck runs out.

Oh.....they'll get him....he currently has the most famous face in the country.

4chan ThinkTank - Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA)

I don't want to play the blame game or the "what if" game, but if these terrorists had access, or had friends working with them, surely they would have been able to figure out well before the FBI news conference that they were on a short list of suspects. They would have had time to formulate some exit-strategy for when they would be approached by the authroites.

All the instant media sites, all the interactive social media sites and all the news media clammering to be the first to "break the case" should shoulder some of the responsibility for broadcasting information that may possibly cost more people's lives.

Sure, we all want to know the facts, wea ll want to know NOW, before anyone else, but at what opossible cost?

Now we have news stations and papers tripping all over themselves, reporting bogus information, asking the same questions over and over and over again all in the hopes of getting "the scoop".

I found myself turning off the tv, the radio, and tossing the newspaper.

That's just how I feel with the amount of scavenging going on with the news media. I only wish they were as "dedicated" and "committed" to reporting good news, but we all know that won't bring in the ratings as a good disaster will.

Future instances like this...Twitter, Facebook and any other Social media sites should be shut down as Standard procedure....

Nitwits are posting on twitter everything they are hearing on the police scanners and pictures of where SWAT/Police are setting up in neighborhoods....WTF

Good idea, and apparently the authorities feel the same... All the scanner links for the app I have were made unavailable not long after my last post... I heard they nipped it at the source and "shut down" (?) the scanners... Don't really know what that means. I can see how they would have the ability to make the streaming web links unavailable, but don't see how they could block old school, home-based, plug-in radio scanners... Did they switch to a special frequency, and if so, why not use it all the time, as it would seem to only benefit the criminals and the overly curious? (I'll admit falling under the later in unprecedented cases like this... I do not "tweet" as it were, and won't be to hard on myself unless I hear this guy is on SB... :-S)

Even down here near RI there were cops everywhere when I took a ride to Swansea about an hour ago... Not going near Dartmouth today, that's for sure...
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He's made it this far without being caught. Either very very lucky or very very smart.

Time is on the fed's side. Wait him out if you have him cornered and see if he has any more pipe bombs at hand. (some were found in his apartment)I think he is seriously wounded or already dead where he is holed up. The only thing most 19 year olds can do well over this many hours is sleep...... Worst case would be if he managed to slip out of the security ring last night, as he had more bombs ready to continue their agenda.

Time is on the fed's side. Wait him out if you have him cornered and see if he has any more pipe bombs at hand. (some were found in his apartment)I think he is seriously wounded or already dead where he is holed up. The only thing most 19 year olds can do well over this many hours is sleep...... Worst case would be if he managed to slip out of the security ring last night, as he had more bombs ready to continue their agenda.
My hope is that he's severely wounded and is found barely alive. Get him stitched up, torture as much information out of his as needed and then string him up in the middle of Boston Common.

Could always turn him over to the Russians...they are always kind to Chechen Rebels....:hihi:

I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?

I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?

How quickly you forget :)
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I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?

Thats not important to the media. All thats important is trying to find someone who'll talk crap about them, and they must be pissed, because they can't seem to find a single one.

Thats not important to the media. All thats important is trying to find someone who'll talk crap about them, and they must be pissed, because they can't seem to find a single one.

Why would they need someone to talk crap about them?
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I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?

UMD is the cheapest school in the UMass system, and he apparently had a scholarship. Don't know whether he was living on-campus or commuting, but it is possible to get there by public transportation (Dattco bus from Boston to New Beige, SRTA bus to UMD). Most of the media is focusing on him right now, with the brother being dead. I don't know whether anyone is looking into an employment history right now, beyond the fact that the guy on the loose worked as a lifeguard at Harvard's aquatic center. I believe that both of them were living on the top floor of a 3 decker with another brother, their sister-in-law, and a baby. That was being reported this morning, at any rate, with news that the two other adults were "taken into custody". Haven't heard anything since.

Sounds like they got him? Hiding on a boat in a backyard in Watertown
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Sounds like they got him? Hiding on a boat in a backyard in Watertown
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Wounded but still alive.

And apparently Likwid didn't hear the uncle talking about them.
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So, who here has a Cuddy / Walkaround FishBote in Watertown?

42.366457N -71.174120

Can you imagine that listing?????

For Sale Cuddy with trailer, covered and almost ready to go. Needs a good detailing and maybe a little fiberglass repair. Leaks a little. Cover needs stitching too. All small repairs.

Suspect in custody
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They got him, alive and in custody.

Bet he hits every door frame on every cruiser while in the People's Republic

They took him in the "bus" (thank you CSI), but with any luck he is riding with a pissed off emt from Southie or something...
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Now we wait 10 years for justice.
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They took him in the "bus" (thank you CSI), but with any luck he is riding with a pissed off emt from Southie or something...
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Lose it. It paints you as a Noo Yawkuh. No LEO in Mass calls an ambulance a bus. ;)

Now we wait 10 years for justice.
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I sure hope not, 10 years is way too long and expensive/costly

although I am still waiting for my classmate Gary Sampson to meet his maker that POS

glad they got him, give him some sodium pentathol and get all the truth out of him then forget to stitch him up, oops, looks like he bled out, oh well,... but that would be too good for him

I find it disappointing he is still using the same oxygen supply as the rest of us. Maybe he won't make it down for breakfast and spare everyone the BS that will be forthcoming.

I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?


No way they acted alone.
Either others still not caught/suspected
Someone was sending them $, either from inside or outside the country.

I sincerely hope that there isn't a government agenda that has been waiting for something like this to happen so it can be put into motion. (Like Iraq after 9/11)
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No way they acted alone.
Either others still not caught/suspected
Someone was sending them $, either from inside or outside the country.

Not sure about that. They had no money. they robbed a 7-11 then let the carjacked victim go after using his ATM card to withdraw money.
Heard one news guy call them Extremists with a homegrown element, or something to that measure.

I still doubt they acted alone...

They did not rob a 7-11
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Crazy week. Started with Evan (my youngest) one block away from the bombs going off, and ended with Jessica (my oldest) with gunshots and hand grenades in her town streets. It is very surreal when stuff on TV gets this personal. Just glad it's over and hopefully they will be able to chase this down to its roots. Don't know that walking the streets in town will ever be the same. Prayers go out to all the victims and thanks to all the responders (professional and otherwise). I imagine Doc was pretty busy on Monday. Hats off to you! (again) Bob H.

I sincerely hope that there isn't a government agenda that has been waiting for something like this to happen so it can be put into motion. (Like Iraq after 9/11)
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I don't subscribe to this. I know too many people that are / were in gvmt / mil / intel that would not sit idly by and allow our government to do this.

Crazy week. Started with Evan (my youngest) one block away from the bombs going off, and ended with Jessica (my oldest) with gunshots and hand grenades in her town streets. It is very surreal when stuff on TV gets this personal. Just glad it's over and hopefully they will be able to chase this down to its roots. Don't know that walking the streets in town will ever be the same. Prayers go out to all the victims and thanks to all the responders (professional and otherwise). I imagine Doc was pretty busy on Monday. Hats off to you! (again) Bob H.


Glad they are all OK Bob.

There are many questions to be answered. I had the scanner on the whole time...a rocket found in a basement in Cambridge , two arrested in a cab in Kenmore Square with a bomb .
On a side note; I imagine the sweep of Watertown discovered a few meth labs .
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I don't subscribe to this. I know too many people that are / were in gvmt / mil / intel that would not sit idly by and allow our government to do this.
Nope, not a chance.

Besides...the real story will be coming out soon.

Glenn Beck: Government Has Until Monday To Come Clean About Benghazi-Boston Bombing Link | Crooks and Liars (http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/glenn-beck-government-has-until-monday-come)

-spence

Crazy week. Started with Evan (my youngest) one block away from the bombs going off, and ended with Jessica (my oldest) with gunshots and hand grenades in her town streets. It is very surreal when stuff on TV gets this personal. Just glad it's over and hopefully they will be able to chase this down to its roots. Don't know that walking the streets in town will ever be the same. Prayers go out to all the victims and thanks to all the responders (professional and otherwise). I imagine Doc was pretty busy on Monday. Hats off to you! (again) Bob H.

Glad your brood is all ok. All these years, and I never knew about Jessica???????? Yeah, I owe Doc a call. As a diagnostic radiologist, I'm sure he has some pretty brutal images to make the right call on....

Nope, not a chance.

Besides...the real story will be coming out soon.

Glenn Beck: Government Has Until Monday To Come Clean About Benghazi-Boston Bombing Link | Crooks and Liars (http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/glenn-beck-government-has-until-monday-come)

-spence

I'm not mixing conspiracy with incompetence / mistakes.

They took him in the "bus" (thank you CSI), but with any luck he is riding with a pissed off emt from Southie or something...
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EMTs and first responders do not discriminate, their job is to save lives, please refrain from making comments on what they might or might not do, as their job is difficult enough without annoying commentary.

Ted,do you actually beleive commentary from a fishing board is going to impact their chosen profession? Go back to planet NB!

I'm not mixing conspiracy with incompetence / mistakes.

Come on, at least you can admire the creativity.

-spence

I've read pages of material on these 2 guys today and not one mention of how they earned money? Apartment in Cambridge, Mercedes benz, boxing at gyms, going to UMass. How did they live without income?


Selling mary jane:smash:

Terrorists who are part of a network have an exit plan available---safe houses, a means of being transported out of the area or out of the country, stuff like that. These guys' exit plan? Go home to Cambridge and wait to be identified, then panic and steal a car to try to get away, and toss home made explosives to try to throw the cops off their tail. When that fails, one dies in a hail of bullets, and the other's idea of hiding out is run into a back yard, cut the shrink wrap on a boat, and climb in, leaving a smear of blood along the hull.

Yup, those were two well-trained pros. :doh:

I think they were expecting to be free longer than what happened and were going to set off other IEDs. They had them. I really doubt they planned on using them in a firefight with swat teams. They went about their normal lives after Monday like nothing had happened. I think more attacks were planned but they got busted way faster than they had planned.

I think by the time this is over (could be a year or two) , we will find out that the older brother got some but not much training on his last trip to russia. is in contact with others like himself , ie expendable bombers for an Islamic group who's masterminds are in that Chechen , Armenian , Dagestan , Iran area.

I think the older Brother was looking at a failed American dream and was recruited. I think he dragged his younger brother into it. My guess is there is woman involved in the younger ones life that disappointed him and set him on a downward spiral making him a suddenly easy recruit to what his older brother already had cooking.

All pure speculation but I think that in time this is how it will unfold.

Come on, at least you can admire the creativity.

-spence


Actually - thought it was a little weak. Though not surprising when playing connect Spences' Dots ;)

Lose it. It paints you as a Noo Yawkuh. No LEO in Mass calls an ambulance a bus. ;)
You'd be surprised.

source: 5 years working as an EMT

I want to see these kids parents locked up and deported. Send a message loud and clear. You are responsible for the kids you raise in this country. Don't like it?? Go home.
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I want to see these kids parents locked up and deported. Send a message loud and clear. You are responsible for the kids you raise in this country. Don't like it?? Go home.
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I think dad's already back in Mother Roossia.

That's good to hear.
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Maybe the plan was for them to hang out and take the heat, possibly plant more bombs, giving the brains of the operation time to leave town. The fact that they decided to explode their devices at the four hour mark shows someone had some operational thinking, sick as it might have been. Add to that the suicide vest the older one had I am not convinced yet that it was just two yahoos.
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Gotta love technology. Also note the position of ladder changes.

Actually - thought it was a little weak. Though not surprising when playing connect Spences' Dots ;)

Not my dots :hihi:

-spence

stick people will still win marathon

bags carried anywhere near it will be scrutinized
way beyond the ordinary now...

everyone required to bring camera's and take pictures

I think the robot knocked over the ladder pealing back the tarp/shrink wrap. Technology also tracked the carjacked Benz since the owner has left his cell phone in the car.

In the end it was some guy curious as to why there was blood on his boat that found him though.

Sounded like they found blood at one or more spots behind a house(s). Kind of curious why they could not track him down from there, but none of the pics I saw from the neighborhood sweeps showed any dogs that I saw and remembered.

I think the robot knocked over the ladder pealing back the tarp/shrink wrap. Technology also tracked the carjacked Benz since the owner has left his cell phone in the car.

In the end it was some guy curious as to why there was blood on his boat that found him though.

Sounded like they found blood at one or more spots behind a house(s). Kind of curious why they could not track him down from there, but none of the pics I saw from the neighborhood sweeps showed any dogs that I saw and remembered.


yep, I was wondering myself why dogs were not used, they should have been able to track him right to the boat you would think

anyway, glad they got him

yep, I was wondering myself why dogs were not used, they should have been able to track him right to the boat you would think

anyway, glad they got him
reason
they thought he might be wearing a suicide vest = no dogs

believe it or not "AMY" the panther /mountain lion like off- world robot
seen hunting down VAL KILMER on that Scifi mars flick is
swiftly becoming a reality....

very close to the indestructible terminator like quality for the military
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/amy.png

I think the robot knocked over the ladder pealing back the tarp/shrink wrap. Technology also tracked the carjacked Benz since the owner has left his cell phone in the car.

In the end it was some guy curious as to why there was blood on his boat that found him though.

Sounded like they found blood at one or more spots behind a house(s). Kind of curious why they could not track him down from there, but none of the pics I saw from the neighborhood sweeps showed any dogs that I saw and remembered.

Oh, I think they probably knew where the guy was, and what he was hiding in, long before they moved in, and maybe was why they called off the city-wide lock down. If you think about it, it made sense for them to make their move after dark, when their night vision gear, and the big spotlights on their choppers, gave them a huge edge. Always makes it easier when you can see, and the bad guy can't.

Now, one last word. My religious beliefs are centered on forgiveness, and love for one another. I'm not supposed to hate. In the days ahead, you'll be hearing people trying to mitigate things for this kid. How he was influenced by his evil big brother, how he's only 19, and how he is one of God's children, and so on. All well and good to forgive and pray for his soul, but in no way should anything about him be mitigated, let alone excused. I don't know if this picture has been posted here, but I have it saved to my hard drive, just in case down the road, I start to feel some twinge of sympathy. I may ask God to save his soul, but I'll also ask God to let justice prevail, and for him to feel the full weight of human justice.

Just to give some context. #^&#^&#^&#^&head is circled in his white cap. 8 year old Martin Richard is standing on the fence, flanked by who I assume are his mother on his left, and his sister on his right, all unaware that little Martin has but minutes to live, and they they will suffer horrendous injuries. I would guess that the girl a few places over on the right of the picture, with the strawberry blonde hair, sunglasses, red Nikes, and her hand to her mouth is 29 year old Krystle Campbell, minutes away from being blown apart. Note very carefully where that #^&#^&#^&#^&wad chose to place the bag containing the bomb. He could have placed it anywhere. If he truly was some decent kid being influenced by evil big brother to do something he was uneasy about, he could have placed it against the buildings and minimized the effects. He deliberately chose to place it among a group of kids and young girls.

#^&#^&#^&#^& him.

56006

Oh, I think they probably knew where the guy was, and what he was hiding in, long before they moved in, and maybe was why they called off the city-wide lock down. If you think about it, it made sense for them to make their move after dark, when their night vision gear, and the big spotlights on their choppers, gave them a huge edge. Always makes it easier when you can see, and the bad guy can't.

Now, one last word. My religious beliefs are centered on forgiveness, and love for one another. I'm not supposed to hate. In the days ahead, you'll be hearing people trying to mitigate things for this kid. How he was influenced by his evil big brother, how he's only 19, and how he is one of God's children, and so on. All well and good to forgive and pray for his soul, but in no way should anything about him be mitigated, let alone excused. I don't know if this picture has been posted here, but I have it saved to my hard drive, just in case down the road, I start to feel some twinge of sympathy. I may ask God to save his soul, but I'll also ask God to let justice prevail, and for him to feel the full weight of human justice.

Just to give some context. #^&#^&#^&#^&head is circled in his white cap. 8 year old Martin Richard is standing on the fence, flanked by who I assume are his mother on his left, and his sister on his right, all unaware that little Martin has but minutes to live, and they they will suffer horrendous injuries. I would guess that the girl a few places over on the right of the picture, with the strawberry blonde hair, sunglasses, red Nikes, and her hand to her mouth is 29 year old Krystle Campbell, minutes away from being blown apart. Note very carefully where that #^&#^&#^&#^&wad chose to place the bag containing the bomb. He could have placed it anywhere. If he truly was some decent kid being influenced by evil big brother to do something he was uneasy about, he could have placed it against the buildings and minimized the effects. He deliberately chose to place it among a group of kids and young girls.

#^&#^&#^&#^& him.

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Concur.

I agree. Regardless of what led him to do it , he did it! It was a ruthless cowardly thing. I understand people target other persons for money , revenge , broken hearts , etc but I will never understand the random targeting of people they don't even know. They just want to kill anybody they can. Even the deadliest of animals do not do that , just deranged people.

Now, one last word. My religious beliefs are centered on forgiveness, and love for one another. I'm not supposed to hate. In the days ahead, you'll be hearing people trying to mitigate things for this kid. How he was influenced by his evil big brother, how he's only 19, and how he is one of God's children, and so on. All well and good to forgive and pray for his soul, but in no way should anything about him be mitigated, let alone excused. I don't know if this picture has been posted here, but I have it saved to my hard drive, just in case down the road, I start to feel some twinge of sympathy. I may ask God to save his soul, but I'll also ask God to let justice prevail, and for him to feel the full weight of human justice.

Judging before facts are in. Interesting.

Judging before facts are in. Interesting.

It looks Ivory Pure that they are responsible for this act. The surviving brother will be tried and the government will make its case.

Should the 0.66% chance play out this might get revisited but so far this looks pretty damning.

What would YOU suggest?

I guess they just happen to have been there with those same backpacks? They just happen to have made the call the exact time they detonated? They just happened to have the same type of bombs on them during the first fire fight? They just happened to have all those arms and amo? Only an idiot would question whether they did it.

the facts are in...they did it. There will be no defense offered that they didn't do it. That would be stupid. All the defense will offer is reasons why he should not be held responsible for what he did.

It looks Ivory Pure that they are responsible for this act. The surviving brother will be tried and the government will make its case.

Should the 0.66% chance play out this might get revisited but so far this looks pretty damning.

What would YOU suggest?

I suggest people be happy this is finally over and wait to see what the full story is.

I don't know about you, but since the older brother is dead and the younger one is in custody we should be more concerned with the dead and injured at this point. They need more attention than the kid does.

Interesting for the faithful to pass judgement so readily.

I suggest people be happy this is finally over and wait to see what the full story is.

I don't know about you, but since the older brother is dead and the younger one is in custody we should be more concerned with the dead and injured at this point. They need more attention than the kid does.

Interesting for the faithful to pass judgement so readily.

I am not going to dignify this personal barb with a response. I'm faithful enough to understand my human failings. Everyone has them. You can make fun of my beliefs all you want. I won't respond in kind.

It would take a lot more faith to hold onto any chance of innocence considering the evidence to date. Unless you think this in an X Files level conspiracy the sequence of getting run over by your brother after a firefight wearing a bomb vest, admitting the crime to a hijack victim and you're both on camera at the crime scene is well...pretty much shut.
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I suggest people be happy this is finally over and wait to see what the full story is.

I don't know about you, but since the older brother is dead and the younger one is in custody we should be more concerned with the dead and injured at this point. They need more attention than the kid does.

Interesting for the faithful to pass judgement so readily.

This isn't a faith issue. This is a matter of law. The law will be processed and initial evidence in the court of public opinion does not look good for the last kid remaining. If some miraculous information comes out and proved it is the Easter Bunny, then pink fur will get locked up. But it isn't looking that way.

There is more evidence in the public against this kid than what was out a few days ago when you were calling out the Philly kid.

Using Ted "logic" perhaps we should keep the older brother in our T&P's also.He must be a victim of circumstance also.

Maybe we should bring back the old use for the Boston Commons, when we are done with him, and put him in the stocks for some public humiliation and stoning.....We could bill it as "Heritage Days"

hey i'm growing my tomatoes as fast as i can TDF
so he might have to set there awhile :rotf2:

Sad part is they came here for safe haven yrs ago an now choose to disrespect that safe haven for religeous idiocy.Any arguement in their favor just proves we have forgotten that we're not the ones that went to their homes an killed their friends for christianity.It was wrong what was done.He has a price to pay and excuses don't bring the dead back to life and make the injured be able to walk an run again.I visited on yesterday that will never be able to run again the rest of her life cause of these dirtbags.She isn't all that forgiving about it.