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Raven
04-18-2013, 07:03 AM
they are less effective than the U.N.
so take Notice
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The FDA Fails to Protect American Consumers

According to a study done by the Environmental Working Group, levels of PCBs in farm-raised salmon were 4.5 times higher than the upper limit set forth by the FDA for weekly consumption of fish. According to EPA standards, farm-raised salmon should have a warning label advising people not to eat it more than 1x per month due to the toxic levels of PCBs it contains. So why hasn’t there been a warning issued?

Well, the EPA only sets standards for wild-caught salmon. It is the FDA’s job to set the standard for commercially raised fish, and their standard is 500x less protective when it comes to PCB levels. No surprise that, once again, the FDA has failed to protect Americans from harm in favor of giving big business a break.

Nebe
04-18-2013, 07:05 AM
Damn. I love those thick farm raised Atlantic salmon filets. :(
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Raven
04-18-2013, 07:35 AM
you can have some ASIAN shrimp with them on the side Nebe
you know...the ones with the chicken coop above them
to add extra flavor. :uhuh:


note: less than 5% of imported seafood is inspected

Nebe
04-18-2013, 07:38 AM
I only eat wild caught shrimp. But I love that salmon.
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FishermanTim
04-18-2013, 11:18 AM
If I wanted to eat a cardboard box, I'd eat a cardboard box, not something posing as a "healthy" fish!

WESTPORTMAFIA
04-19-2013, 09:27 PM
The FDA approves things based on research that the companies applying for approval submit to them. I always though the FDA did their own research before approving things. It's pretty scary how things actually get FDA approval if you do some research. FDA approved can really mean nothing at all.
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5/0
04-20-2013, 07:39 AM
I only eat wild caught shrimp. But I love that salmon.
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Did you know that they put a dye in their food pellets it will give them that rich pink look.
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rphud
04-20-2013, 07:56 AM
I don't think anybody wants to go back to pre-FDA times, but it has always needed fixin and likely always will. Funding for the FDA always seems to be political football at its finest, and that does not help. They have been doing better since W, but it is the government.

Nebe
04-20-2013, 08:00 AM
Did you know that they put a dye in their food pellets it will give them that rich pink look.
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Yes. They do it to beef too.
I eat very well lately. I dont eat any beef, only bison.. Eat lots of veggies and even tofu, and will eat lots of fresh caught by me fish this summer, but I will still buy a big slab of salmon once in a while. It's not going to kill me. I should also mention that I buy the farm raised salmon from Norway at whole foods.
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Raven
04-21-2013, 06:02 AM
my "GOOD" cholesterol is WAY to low -say the heart DOC's
but i've never been a fan of Salmon
to oily tasting for me... same as NON albacore tuna

taking the fish oil pills is of no help because i seem to always
burp it endlessly and thus completely hate it....

there's an emulsified fish oil product i tried at the health food store
with a really NICE demo lady.... and that's my next purchase
since you cannot taste the fish oil period

cows that ate radioactive grass (west coast) after JAPAN's tsunami
and subsequent nuclear melt down ....after a cloud drifted over here
ended up having tainted milk.

zacs
04-22-2013, 08:39 AM
there are more PCBs in butter, beef, or milk than farm raised salmon. and the "dye" they put in the feed is the same compounds that they naturally eat (astraxanthin and others) that make them pink in the wild.

if you really want to pick an argument with salmon, find a real one, like how many forage fish are killed to make the feed. that is probably the only "real" issue with farmed salmon. But it doesn't resonate with the commoner, so the aniti-salmon groups drum up non-stories like PCBs & dye which sound way more scarier... yawn...

JackK
04-22-2013, 10:33 AM
there are more PCBs in butter, beef, or milk than farm raised salmon. and the "dye" they put in the feed is the same compounds that they naturally eat (astraxanthin and others) that make them pink in the wild.

if you really want to pick an argument with salmon, find a real one, like how many forage fish are killed to make the feed. that is probably the only "real" issue with farmed salmon. But it doesn't resonate with the commoner, so the aniti-salmon groups drum up non-stories like PCBs & dye which sound way more scarier... yawn...

I'm terrified of Aquadvantage...

also, farmed salmon tastes like poop.

zacs
04-22-2013, 11:01 AM
I'm terrified of Aquadvantage...

some legit concerns around GM salmon for sure... but not approved yet, afaik?

also, farmed salmon tastes like poop.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

Nebe
04-22-2013, 11:07 AM
farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. :love:

Nebe
04-22-2013, 11:08 AM
I load it with soyyaki sauce and grill it skin side down with asparagus or spinach... epic mealtime.

Nebe
04-22-2013, 11:09 AM
There is so many worse foods out there that i wont even touch..

remember when people were told eating eggs or avacados were a bad thing?? LOL

Raven
04-22-2013, 11:27 AM
farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. :love:

do steelhead taste more like trout Nebe?

Nebe
04-22-2013, 11:45 AM
Yes
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bart
04-22-2013, 11:57 AM
farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. :love:

Just had this last night, prepared like salmon. Dijon mustard coating with lemon. Chit WAS the bomb. I only eat wild salmon from Whole Foods, but I will definitely eat farm-raised steelhead again :drool:

Nebe
04-22-2013, 12:10 PM
Try that soy Yaki sauce in the blue bottle next time.
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RIROCKHOUND
04-22-2013, 12:22 PM
Try that soy Yaki sauce in the blue bottle next time.
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Roast with a past of ancho chile powder, fresh garlic and olive oil...

The Dad Fisherman
04-22-2013, 12:42 PM
Blacken that Beyotch....:drool:

Raven
04-22-2013, 01:35 PM
Blacken that Beyotch....:drool:

ya need Mongolian fire oil...

so your butt can breathe fire like Genghis Khan :love:

JackK
04-22-2013, 01:39 PM
I wholeheartedly disagree.

It's cool... I don't like ANY cooked salmon (raw or cured for me) so I'm biased :smash:

bart
04-22-2013, 07:08 PM
Eben I will try that.

The woman is making us a mediterannean tilapia right now. her mom made the steelhead last night with a bomb corn, grape tomato, vinegar, and avacado-southwestern style salad. my mother made us wild salmon last week.

Life is good :uhuh:

Nebe
04-22-2013, 10:05 PM
Tilapia is the one fish I won't touch. But I hear its tasty.
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zacs
04-22-2013, 10:18 PM
some tilapia taste OK, some are disgusting. chinese tend to be about 80% gross. Indonesia are 50/50. Central America are only 25% gross. imho... why won't you touch, nebe? they are more like a farmed chicken than a fish...

Nebe
04-22-2013, 10:23 PM
They eat #^&#^&#^&#^&. ;)
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Nebe
04-22-2013, 10:24 PM
Farm raised shrimp is also something I avoid.
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zacs
04-22-2013, 11:36 PM
They eat #^&#^&#^&#^&. ;)
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they don't eat sh*t. i've been to tilapia farms all over the world. I promise you they don't eat #^&#^&#^&#^&. They eat nasty algae and pond scum, which can make them taste like a dirty aquarium, but I can assure you they don't eat sh*t.

I have also been to many shrimp farms and never seen them eat sh*t, although i have heard rumors of it in China. I doubt you would see it in thailand, indo, india or cent america. if you buy shrimp at BJ's, Costco, Whole Foods, you know it will be good. If it is dirt cheap, there is usually a reason. i avoid china shrimp, and advise most people to stay away from grocery store shrimp in general, other than the retailers mentioned above. agree that good shrimp is hard to find, but the problem is usually oversoaking with chemicals...

Raven
04-23-2013, 02:45 AM
Tilapia is the one fish I won't touch. But I hear its tasty.
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i'd say it was comparable to sole
and not as good as flounder

unlike meat inspection disregarding what's actually in the meat

seafood is only inspected at a rate around 2%
so absolutely anything is getting thru to consumers

the "OLD" guy on swamp land show used onions
to catch catfish.... now that's cool

Raven
04-23-2013, 02:55 AM
but these same DUMB BASTARDS FDA
approved monsanto's lacing of roundup
be allowed in our corn.... genetically (GM UH-OH)

which is why i continue to say "END the FDA"

jredfly
04-23-2013, 07:29 AM
I believe there was a Dirty Jobs episode where Talapia were used to clean the crap of other farm raised fish but I am not sure if that is the case with Talapia raised for consumption. I have still not tried it for that reason though.

I actually couldn't believe the FDA approved Splenda after finding out it was discovered when trying to develop a pesticide, that can't be good for you. Look what they did with Sweet and Low, I don't know how they exist, I guess something is better than nothing. You would think that with people trying to become more health conscious things would get better but I guess not.

Besides trying to eat right is there anything else we can do to make the FDA better? Is it just the case where big business always wins?
Are there groups out there to join, etc.?

Nebe
04-23-2013, 10:06 AM
My grandfather once told me this- "if you can't pronounce it, you can't digest it". He ate like a bird and knew long ago that processed foods were bad news.
I think the key is to just eat smart. Eat less and eat organic.
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fishbones
04-23-2013, 11:43 AM
I believe there was a Dirty Jobs episode where Talapia were used to clean the crap of other farm raised fish but I am not sure if that is the case with Talapia raised for consumption. I have still not tried it for that reason though.



I watched that episode, too. That tilapia was for human consumption after they cleaned the excrement from the farm raised bass tanks. Pretty disgusting, but I laughed my ass off because my mother in law was on a tilapia kick at the time. I never warned her and she still eats it more than any other fish, lol.

WESTPORTMAFIA
04-23-2013, 07:59 PM
Tilapia with a side of piss anyone? Never tried it never will
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Nebe
04-23-2013, 08:11 PM
LOLOL
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Jackbass
04-23-2013, 08:21 PM
What ever I am a walking explosion. The FDA isn't going to kill me but the good I ingest may. I think about it often as I get older because I constantly have new issues. IDK what the hell you gonna do
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bart
04-25-2013, 09:30 AM
I liked it!

Can't be any worse for you than hot dogs..

zacs
04-25-2013, 09:42 AM
Can't be any worse for you than hot dogs..


Ain't that the truth. Or any of the other crap that people (me included) put in our bodies..

Nebe
04-25-2013, 10:20 AM
My stepdad gave me crap for eating an avacado every morning for breakfast.. Telling me that they were so bad for you, etc.
he eats so much processed crap, but wouldn't dream of eating the seed of satan known as an avacado.
Food is big business along with healthcare. Both industries have lobbyists who's job it is is the persuade the general population that they need to buy their junk.
If everyone in this country ate organic whole foods and stopped eating processed crap, the food industry and health industry would be ruined.

Something to consider.
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Raven
04-25-2013, 11:19 AM
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spence
05-03-2013, 07:35 PM
Agree, why do we need food safety?

Smell a rat: Chinese ring sold rodent meat as mutton | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/03/smell-rat-chinese-ring-sold-rodent-meat-as-mutton/?test=latestnews)

Let the industry patrol itself.

-spence

Raven
05-03-2013, 08:11 PM
speaking of Rats

the GMO altered corn with impregnated into it's genetic code
a BUILT in dose of round up
grows viciously huge tumors in RATS

THE FDA has approved of this as well
they are (to many Nasty words to express here)

Nebe
05-03-2013, 08:44 PM
Makes you wonder why so many people get cancer
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Raven
05-04-2013, 05:12 AM
actually
a cure was found in France for cancer
but because it's quite controversial....
it was suppressed to keep the billion
dollar cancer industry in Business

Nebe
05-04-2013, 06:12 AM
That makes sense
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likwid
05-04-2013, 07:13 AM
i'd say it was comparable to sole

sole of shoe maybe.
tilapia is garbage.