I don't drink a "ton" of beer, and often just drink some light beer whenever I do. so when I had some friends over last weekend for the annual "fishermen's dinner" I put a 12pack of bud light in the cooler to get things started. as the night went on, people brought a mix of different suff (including some sampler 12packs) for a nice variety. when I went back for another beer trhe next day, ALL the budlights were gone and I had 5 different types of IPA left... (along with some kida Storm Imperial stout)

the stuff is just too bitter, or too "hoppy" for me- and I gave it to the guy down the street. I'm back to the lagers for now- and Sunset Wheat when I can find it around here.

It's an acquired taste. Much like drinking your coffee black.
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IPA's are my favorite.....like my coffee black too...:hee:
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Try a belgian style IPA...

Some people just don't like stronger beer.

-spence

I love the hoppy beers, but lately I've been drinking a lot of the Palm pale ale. Very mellow with a nice flavor. If it didn't say it was an ale, you probably wouldn't guess that it was.

To quote the Hobgoblin, "What's the matter Lagerboy, afraid you're gonna taste something?"

Only joking, to each his own taste in brews, and there are plenty of styles to try and like that are less hoppy but very good as well. Maybe some decent craft made Pils comes to mind.

Stay thirsty!

pilsener urquell was an old favorite of mine..... haven't seen that one in a while though. but that's a good idea- gotta look for something that's a happy medium

Prima Pils is outstanding
Black coffee here

not all ales are hoppy either. you may just not like IPAs, or more specifically american IPAs which are much hoppier than European ones. european style ales are much more malty and less hoppy. pale ales are typically much less hoppy also. lots of options. you may find that you start to like the stonger, hoppier selections as you "work your way up" so to speak.

Not all hops are the same either. Some are bitter, some are piney.. Some are citrusy. Lagunitas does a great job of avoiding strong bitter hops flavors by blending a ton of different strains to create very complex flavors. Especially in Lagunitas Sucks Ale.
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Lagunitas Sucks is good stuff. I'm at a cask event right now, and the coolest beer here is the Port Jeff Brewing Birch Stout. Tastes just like root beer, but weighing in at 8.2% ABV. Most of the beers are hopped up IPAs or some variant. This was very unexpected.
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Sucks is very good. One of my favorites.
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Sucks is very good. One of my favorites.
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Talked to the Lagunitas reps at the craft beer festival. They told me that they're thinking about making Sucks a full time brew vice seasonal because of the popularity. That would suit me and many of you just fine.

DZ

Only Navy folk say "vice".

the stuff is just too bitter, or too "hoppy" for me- and I gave it to the guy down the street. I'm back to the lagers for now- and Sunset Wheat when I can find it around here.

I think keystone makes a beer you might like. .!..
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You get three things from hops...Bitterness , flavor and aroma. I love all the hop flavor and aroma I can get but I am not big on bitterness that is out of balance. Its the bitterness that people associate with highly hopped beers like IPA's which is too bad. Sam Adams Boston Lager has a lot of hop aroma but not the high bitterness.

When I make beer I use noble hops like Hallertauer Mittlefruehs and East Kent Goldings. The Mittlkefruehs are nearly perfect for my preferences because they have huge aroma , good taste but low alpha acid content so the bitterness is easy to control. The East Kent Goldings have a great (but different than Mittlefrueh) aroma profile and also lots of flavor. Their Alpha acid content is 2 or more times that of the Mittlefruehs so more care is needed to get the flavor without over bittering. Czech Saaz hops are another good choice to get flavor and aroma with easy to control bitterness.

Its the flavor/bitterness line that is hard to walk when brewing. Its easy to get lots of aroma with little to no bittering but getting flavor without bittering requires some close control.

Now IPA's are generally made with hops that have extremely high alpha acid contents. Can easily be 7 times the alpha acid in Chinooks (a typical IPA hop) vs the Mittlefrueh hops. Originally this high alpha acid bittering was added to IPA's as a preservative. The IPA's had to survive long trips by seas on slow boats and high bittering with hops helps preserve the flavor , all be it a bitter flavor.

If anyone happens to go to Philly, do yourself a favor and go to 136 Chestnut Street and you will find Eulogy Bar a.k.a Beer Heaven. It takes a few hours to go through the beer menu, or a couple minutes if you ask the bar tenders. Probably in the top ten of all USA bars & 3 blocks from Independence Hall, and less than a block from a greasy cheese steak.

Monks is in Philly

Monks is in Philly

Ahh yes, and Monks!

I go to Philly once every year for a week. Eulogy and monks are always on my list.
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found something that seems to fit the bill finally....


Guiness Black Lager- really nice!! very dark color, but great crisp lager flavor

I will get a case of yuengling porter to you. It is cheaper and you may like it even more.

Talked to the Lagunitas reps at the craft beer festival. They told me that they're thinking about making Sucks a full time brew vice seasonal because of the popularity. That would suit me and many of you just fine.

DZ

This would be good... VERY good

Check out jacks abby. Craft lagers. I like the ipl.
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Hoponius
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Hoponius
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Yes, it's pretty good.
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Yes
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Went to a party over the weekend and they had a keg of hopponius. Having the second anniversary larger now. Double ipl. Outstanding.
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