Raven
08-09-2013, 07:19 AM
Does a fish have....
Based on it's weight and or strength..... to pull
i know it varies for different species.... some are built for speed
but say a 40lb Striper... what would you guess?
Guppy
08-09-2013, 08:49 AM
The initial hit surf 60 lb. ,,,, when he see the boat (boat fish) 80 lb
When he hits the grille,, 0 lb
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N.ShoreFisher
08-09-2013, 08:55 AM
there was an episode of River Monsters that was discussing a cat fish I believe and it's ability to pull backwards like a tug boat. All it took was 10 lbs of pull to pull a human down. Now that's only if the person is over their head and had no leverage with their legs against a hard surface.
Probably a lot less than most people would think. I would guess it’s about half their weight so a 40# fish might be able to generate 20# of pressure/torque on the initial run. If they are in a hard running current the number could be higher.
Raven
08-09-2013, 11:18 AM
i keep thinking about that 900 lb tuna
those guys caught in Dracut
and the weight or torque
that gear needed to withstand....
Guppy
08-09-2013, 12:25 PM
I've wrestled with a few of those bad boys in my younger days on hand lines ( never that big!)
There just ain't no stopping um when their green,,,,,,, sooooo much fun
Seems to me, if a fish is going away from you and he weighs 500 lb isn't that 500lb ? Through in tail trust,,, forget about it!
MAKAI
08-09-2013, 12:44 PM
Not to sound geeky but doesn't torque deal with rotation about an axis.
Now when 16# of drag is set up on my stand up 50. Try pulling that from a rod holder. A lot harder than you would assume.
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Rockfish9
08-09-2013, 12:59 PM
it's all about fast twitch and slow twitch muscle.. and it varies from fish to fish... species to species .... just like humans.. some are sprinters... some are power lifters... some are distanace runners and some are body builders...fish like tuna have close to equal amounts of each... thus they posses great stamina.. but are capable of bursts of excepional speed as well.. the tail is a good give away.... Bass have a higer ratio of slow twitch fibers than fast twitch fibers... what they lack in speed.. they make up in power and stamina.. look at the broad tail... blue fish posess a higer ratio of fast twitch fibers... visable when you set the hook and see the speed.. their fights are more acrobatic and quicker than most bass.. they do lack( most not all) the bull dog strength for long periods that a bass does posess... and as I said in the open..it can and does vary in individuals.. thus some bass are a bit quicker than others of their brethren.. and I've had blue fish that were dogged fighters... these fish never made fast runs... i even ALMOST lip locked one once because i was sure it was a bass...
I do know this.. a 40 lb bass has no trouble turning and dragging seaward a 2200 lb boat out of the surf zone and out to deeper water... against 4lb of drag...during extended tugs of war..
Interesting stuff... I love this kind of chatter..
Finaddict
08-09-2013, 08:56 PM
it's all about fast twitch and slow twitch muscle.. and it varies from fish to fish... species to species .... just like humans.. some are sprinters... some are power lifters... some are distanace runners and some are body builders...fish like tuna have close to equal amounts of each... thus they posses great stamina.. but are capable of bursts of excepional speed as well.. the tail is a good give away.... Bass have a higer ratio of slow twitch fibers than fast twitch fibers... what they lack in speed.. they make up in power and stamina.. look at the broad tail... blue fish posess a higer ratio of fast twitch fibers... visable when you set the hook and see the speed.. their fights are more acrobatic and quicker than most bass.. they do lack( most not all) the bull dog strength for long periods that a bass does posess... and as I said in the open..it can and does vary in individuals.. thus some bass are a bit quicker than others of their brethren.. and I've had blue fish that were dogged fighters... these fish never made fast runs... i even ALMOST lip locked one once because i was sure it was a bass...
I do know this.. a 40 lb bass has no trouble turning and dragging seaward a 2200 lb boat out of the surf zone and out to deeper water... against 4lb of drag...during extended tugs of war..
Interesting stuff... I love this kind of chatter..
Joe is right on target with this ... IMHO ... it's fish dependent ... when I lived in Miami, caught a lot of tarpon on fly rods (also fortunate to fish with some top guides) ... had 100#+ tarpon come in to the boat in under 15 minutes, while I have had 80-pound tarpon that took more than an hour to pull in ... as well as having 70-pound class fish sheer 100-pound tippet like it was thread, while managed to land bigger fish on lighter tippet. Some fish super strong and aggressive, others not as much ... especially in hot water in August in the backcountry ... oxygen depletes more quickly and the fish can't fight as hard and long as they can earlier in the season in the cooler, deeper waters.
onecastmike2003
08-09-2013, 11:16 PM
It will strip the brass 704 gear and spool Ya .... If you have drag slammed .... When you hook one let us know :) there bad Ass and green and pist off .
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