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Mr. Sandman 01-02-2014, 08:17 AM I have not kept up on the legalization of this stuff but can someone explain to me how a state can legalize a drug that still
remains a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law as of 2013?
How come the feds don't move in and shut them down?
JohnR 01-02-2014, 08:31 AM The Feds "selectively" enforce.
Remember, it is not about the laws, its just the ones determined to be enforced that are important.
Raven 01-02-2014, 09:02 AM The OBAMA Administration informed the FEDS to BACK OFF
and not to interfere with STATE law regardless of the FAKE scheduling
of cannabis as a totally harmful substance.... which it isn't
there are people with Babies that have up to 300 epileptic seizures per day
that have to be basically knocked out 24/7 just to survive
and are taking 2000 milligrams (an adult dosage level) of a drug
that stops the seizures from happening but the infant might as well be
in an induced COMA which for all practical reasoning ..... and ...it IS.
i was just reading about a couple from Tennessee that pulled up stakes
and split to Colorado so they can switch off of the meds and over to Cannabis
which isn't full of THC that gets people high...it has been bred by specialists
to have 98 % cannabinoids INSTEAD and when the children get this much needed medication
it's LIKE a MIRACLE because they wake up and act totally normal again.
Raven 01-02-2014, 09:10 AM the other reason is because in our NATIONS capital which is
very close to making it legal ...or more legal i should say
BLACKS have been unfairly and dis-proportionally busted/ jailed for
small amounts of cannabis which amounts to illegal persecution
resulting in an inability to seek employment afterwards because
of their criminal past.
In 10 years it will be totally legal in most states and in 20 years we will look back and say that was all really unnecessary. Just look at how prohibition worked out... Same deal. Booze is a thousand times more deadly than ganja.
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Fly Rod 01-02-2014, 09:21 AM Even tho there is a federal law aganist it the feds do not have enough man power to go after all the shops and prosecute...also one high ranking fed agent on 60 minutes had said that they doubt that they could get a jury to convict....never heard of Obama saying hands off.
Take California for instance,over 50% of the population is on non prescribed drugs...Alaska is 60% of the population R on non prescribed drugs.... how do ya get a conviction?...not only does a person driving has to worry about a drunk driver now ya have to worry about a pothead and any pothead will tell ya it does not interfer with their driving.
Mr. Sandman 01-02-2014, 09:21 AM We are a nation of laws...you want to change the law, fine change the law but the law is the law. They should enforce it. Obama took an oath to enforce the law as written not selectively interpret it has he sees fit.
Personally I don't have a problem with legalizing it, if that is what the country wants, but I have a real problem with not enforcing federal law as written. That is what the federal government is suppose to do.
spence 01-02-2014, 09:25 AM We are a nation of laws...you want to change the law, fine change the law but the law is the law. They should enforce it. Obama took an oath to enforce the law as written not selectively interpret it has he sees fit.
There's simply not enough Federal resources to enforce all laws so they have to prioritize...
Would you rather then invest in busting a dope smoker or terrorism cell?
-spence
Mr. Sandman 01-02-2014, 09:29 AM Nonsense. Man power? come on...there are a small amount of shops selling this stuff in hand full of states, they could shut this down if they wanted...How many have they busted so far? Zero that I have heard of. Besides if they just took out a few, then fewer would be eager to get to market.
It is not the feds job to selectively pursue a case because they don't think they can get a conviction...their job is to enforce the law.
Besides many terrorist cells probably have some drug connections so you get a twofer :) when you make a bust.
The reality as I see it is this... It's all about the bottom line. Tax revenue. Raise taxes or legalize weed and tax the crap out of it.... Sounds like a good idea to me.
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spence 01-02-2014, 09:44 AM The resource issue isn't to shut the shops down...you have to prosecute. Who wants all these cases clogging up the system when the public isn't behind it?
-spence
Mr. Sandman 01-02-2014, 09:51 AM If there is so much public support for it then federal law should have been changed prior to any state making it legal. Once the federal laws change tobacco companies will monopolize the business and crush these head shops.
bassballer 01-02-2014, 10:05 AM If there is so much public support for it then federal law should have been changed prior to any state making it legal. Once the federal laws change tobacco companies will monopolize the business and crush these head shops.
Thats what alot of the NEW companies are hoping for. Alot of these companies now producing medical juices, lolipops, candybars ect are hoping when that federal law changes they will be bought by a major corp. Alot of start ups getting in on the ground floor will have a nice pay day coming. The fed laws will change.
JohnnySaxatilis 01-02-2014, 10:23 AM Pot is the number one seller of giant criminal organizations. Its all connected unfortunately so federal prosecuters want pot illegal when tieing together different criminal elements. Its still federally illegal yes, but this is really intended for gargantuan busts, large scale distribution often tied into a lot of other hard drugs.
massbassman 01-02-2014, 11:06 AM Decriminilize and legalize it. Tax it similar to cigarettes, and keep the billions of dollars that each year go to the countries that are supplying and taking the $$ back to their countries. Think of the millions of dollars that would be saved in law enforcement, not to mention how it would benefit the overcrowding problem in our prisons from repeat offenders. We have been battling the drug war for decades and haven't put a dent in it, in fact losing it.
Maybe take some of this money and use it for something like... Gee I don't know... maybe some help and services for some of our wounded men and women in the Armed Services?!!
The war on drugs will never be stopped and it's time that this country wakes up to that fact, and realize that it its working against itself, and with proper laws and federal control, could turn this into billions of dollars for programs that will benefit everyone. Legalization will happen, it's just a matter of how much more time we waste.
Fly Rod 01-02-2014, 11:19 AM http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ondcp/issues-content/marijuana_and_public_health_one_pager_-_final.pdf
As we all know Mass. is ready to accept applications for pot sales...in Essex Mass. there R 2 applications to sell pot legally....as more states and there cities approve the sale it will put the illegal dealer out of business...and I'm dam sure that some illegal dealers R applying for a license...it cost big bucks to apply. The state requires $1.3 million for start-up capital — $500,000 for the first location and $400,000 for each additional site...Mass had over 180 applications.
detbuch 01-02-2014, 11:52 AM We are a nation of laws...you want to change the law, fine change the law but the law is the law. They should enforce it. Obama took an oath to enforce the law as written not selectively interpret it has he sees fit.
Personally I don't have a problem with legalizing it, if that is what the country wants, but I have a real problem with not enforcing federal law as written. That is what the federal government is suppose to do.
It may be a matter of protecting turf. The Federal prohibition of marijuana is given legal authority under the overbroad misuse of the Commerce Clause. On the one hand, the current government may wish to let the States decide the issue, which would be constitutionally correct. On the other hand, it may not wish to allow any intrusion on its unconstitutional overuse of the Commerce Clause. It's just too handy an instrument to be used whenever the Federal Government wishes to further intrude in our lives with whatever regulations it wishes to impose. The Court has already decided, incorrectly in my opinion, on the side of the Federal Government's right to prohibit. So a reversal would require more litigation, and any chance to lose their Commerce Clause power in this case could spread into other of the many areas where it regulates under that power.
So, it is better to leave the law stand, but not to enforce it. Win, win.
detbuch 01-02-2014, 12:01 PM There's simply not enough Federal resources to enforce all laws so they have to prioritize...
Would you rather then invest in busting a dope smoker or terrorism cell?
-spence
There are WAY more resources (money) available for the Federal Government to enforce and properly run its business--if it would stick only to the business constitutionally granted to it.
There will never be enough "resources" for a centralized bureaucracy to intrude into every aspect of our lives and then enforce that intrusion. If for no other reason, constitutional or otherwise, that should be enough to limit it from overreach.
I just hope no one asks that baker to make them a ganja cake!!!! :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
Saltheart 01-02-2014, 01:47 PM Alcohol and tobacco are legal but pot is not?? No drug is more dangerous than a bottle of tequila and no bad habit is worse for your health than smoking tobacco.
Legalize it all and rip the heart (financing) out of gangs and organized crime .
Raven 01-02-2014, 02:41 PM sandman
i understand your point of view and respect your right to express it
but here is what was said
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“Allowing state law enforcement to ignore state decriminalization law—by relying on federal prohibition law—
violates fundamental constitutional principles of the separation of powers among the branches of state government,
and of federalism’s respect for state sovereignty,
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that being said it's now a matter of Economics
the federal government has poured in more than a trillion dollars into
the war on drugs or the pot prohibition... since 1950
that's more than all the money spent in the gulf wars
and it did not accomplish the goal intended
cannabis is now hands down the united states biggest cash crop
and allowing the black market to be the only people making a profit
can no longer be tolerated given the "CHANGE" nationwide towards medical cannabis
which the government swore on a stack of bibles HAD no medical
uses what so ever... this coming from a government that was growing and distributing cannabis
just like tobacco as pre rolled cigarettes to a couple dozen Patients with various medical problems.
So the times they are a changin..... it seems
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NEBE Taxing the Hell out of Something isn't right either
I mean that's how the Revolutionary war got Started when
England began to over tax the tea and then the Boston Tea Party
basically Flipped the Bird @ the queen sayin F-You Queen Beotch
and soon the red coats were coming.... and Paul Revere was riding
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One thing i can tell you after reading many hundreds of comments
on blogs discussing this subject is that there is NOTHING more controversial than prohibition ..... NOTHING
i want it to earn tax revenue for each state Fairly but not to the point
it's utterly ridiculous any more than beer should be taxed @ $20 dollars per bottle.
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referencing the Obama administration’s vow to keep their hands off of the shift in laws applicable to marijuana legalization at a state level. “The SJC has interpreted the law that if you do shake someone down, then that evidence goes out the window. You can’t use federal law to bypass the state law. [The Cruz decision] is the law—like it or lump it, it’s the law.”
the Cruz case
http://masscases.com/cases/sjc/459/459mass459.html
ThrowingTimber 01-02-2014, 02:46 PM taxing something at 25% even if federally legal, will stop mexican cartels (as well as other bad actors) from smuggling it in... riiiiight... because people are anxious to pay more for something that isnt taxed already... and seems to be readily available.
Raven 01-02-2014, 02:46 PM the other thing that irks me to NO end
is how it seems impossible for news casters and people in general
to have a serious conversation about it without
referencing the weed jokes about twinkies and munchies
everyone starts laughing giggling and can't keep a straight face to save their life.
it's like they are talking about Herman Munster or the Batman.
Raven 01-02-2014, 02:53 PM my interest in it actually began in 1971 when i discovered the Aphrodisiac properties of the herb...and after reading up on it i have been studying
aphrodisiac's ever since and health ever since.
There have been ancient graves discovered that were incredibly old before the time of Christ... that had urns full of it for the after life as it was considered then to be something sacred
cheferson 01-06-2014, 12:34 PM Glad I bought a bunch of mdbx stock at 11 bucks right before,it went legal in Colorado !!!!! Almost $38 today! Up 38% just today! Easy money , screw grunting it out on the line !
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Swimmer 01-06-2014, 08:13 PM the other reason is because in our NATIONS capital which is
very close to making it legal ...or more legal i should say
BLACKS have been unfairly and dis-proportionally busted/ jailed for
small amounts of cannabis which amounts to illegal persecution
resulting in an inability to seek employment afterwards because
of their criminal past.
Craig have you checked the ratio of residents in our nations capital of whites v.s. blacks? I think probably its 95% black and then everyone else. So if a drug arrest occurs it can be pretty much assume to be a black person.
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Swimmer 01-06-2014, 08:19 PM Even tho there is a federal law aganist it the feds do not have enough man power to go after all the shops and prosecute...also one high ranking fed agent on 60 minutes had said that they doubt that they could get a jury to convict....never heard of Obama saying hands off.
The U.S. attorney general most certainly said we will not prosecute! We will stay out of it. Thats one of Obamas felllow Chicago boys. That was and is an Obama decision.
Take California for instance,over 50% of the population is on non prescribed drugs...Alaska is 60% of the population R on non prescribed drugs.... how do ya get a conviction?...not only does a person driving has to worry about a drunk driver now ya have to worry about a pothead and any pothead will tell ya it does not interfer with their driving.
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Swimmer 01-06-2014, 08:23 PM The whole movement is a joke. It will cost us more than we will ever take in from a tax perspective.
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cheferson 01-07-2014, 10:05 AM The whole movement is a joke. It will cost us more than we will ever take in from a tax perspective.
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How will it cost more ? Please explain ...
Will it cost more then the impact of legal pharmaceuticals? You know how many idiots I've worked with who are on suboxone ?
Also Washington, D.C. Is not 95% black .....
All I know is my Ira is up about 15k+ in 2 weeks, thanks to legal marijuana and med box (up another $17 today!)
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The Dad Fisherman 01-07-2014, 10:19 AM Interesting Town DC.....50% black and the Gayest city in the Country :hihi:
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html
http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/06/and-the-gayest-city-in-the-u-s-is/?hpt=hp_t3
justplugit 01-07-2014, 11:48 AM In 10 years it will be totally legal in most states and in 20 years we will look back and say that was all really unnecessary. Just look at how prohibition worked out... Same deal.
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Yes, and by that time they will be making crack cocaine and heroin legal too so Big G can collect more taxes. You can count on ways of finding new taxes being as addictive by Big G as those drugs. Pot is a Gateway Drug in more ways than one.
Clammer 01-07-2014, 12:16 PM JPI ..........ya out of touch .go play with yourself .
Nene is 100000% right ......................BIT . booze was the creator of all evil & should have never tried it, bought it , made it , etc ............................. now its the drug of choice .
DUI,s H&R , DWIT < & all the other over abuse that it has become ..........
20 years POT will be more common & IMI much more safe & life will be great .....Born 25 years too early ><><><>,:grins:
Yes, and by that time they will be making crack cocaine and heroin legal too so Big G can collect more taxes. You can count on ways of finding new taxes being as addictive by Big G as those drugs. Pot is a Gateway Drug in more ways than one.
I totally disagree..
last i heard, France, which we all know is the wine capital of the world has a very low alcoholism problem.. kids drink a glass with dinner all the time.. its no big deal.
The problem is how we stigmatize substances here…
IMHO.. the real problem with the legalization of MMJ, is how freaking potent it can be.. and then you have Dabbing, which is the smoking of extracted oils from the plant.. From what i have heard, dabbing is damn near just like smoking crack. Thats the elephant in the room that pro MMJ people are not addressing.
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-07-2014, 01:50 PM Glad I bought a bunch of mdbx stock at 11 bucks right before,it went legal in Colorado !!!!! Almost $38 today! Up 38% just today! Easy money , screw grunting it out on the line !
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I bought at $18 it hit $70 today
justplugit 01-07-2014, 04:56 PM IMHO.. the real problem with the legalization of MMJ, is how freaking potent it can be.. and then you have Dabbing, which is the smoking of extracted oils from the plant.. From what i have heard, dabbing is damn near just like smoking crack. Thats the elephant in the room that pro MMJ people are not addressing.
Kinda what I'm saying, there will always be many who want to find a higher high so will find ways to alter a drug, or as you say "substance", to make it more potent or try another "substance".
It's the addiction to the "substance" that causes the real problem, especially within a family. Live with a kid who is addicted in early years and watch them
get stuck at that age because they never really faced reality, or an adult member of a family addicted and see the misery and waste of life that pursues.
Clammer behave yourself. :D
Kinda what I'm saying, there will always be many who want to find a higher high so will find ways to alter a drug, or as you say "substance", to make it more potent or try another "substance".
It's the addiction to the "substance" that causes the real problem, especially within a family. Live with a kid who is addicted in early years and watch them
get stuck at that age because they never really faced reality, or an adult member of a family addicted and see the misery and waste of life that pursues.
Clammer behave yourself. :D
Yes. I agree. I have a friend who has smoked pot daily since I have known her.. ( 17).. she has not developed much in the maturity department since then.. But, That being said, I believe the exceptions to this greatly outweigh the negatives. Alcohol is far more deadly than ganja…
cheferson 01-07-2014, 05:15 PM I bought at $18 it hit $70 today
$73.90! Hahheh
And it's gonna split on the 16th !
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cheferson 01-07-2014, 05:23 PM IMHO.. the real problem with the legalization of MMJ, is how freaking potent it can be.. and then you have Dabbing, which is the smoking of extracted oils from the plant.. From what i have heard, dabbing is damn near just like smoking crack. Thats the elephant in the room that pro MMJ people are not addressing.
So call me a crackhead ! Hah!!
Ive done dabs out west before and it's definitely not crack , it's harm reduction . I can vape a tiny dab and get the same effect as smoking a joint . Thing is with a dab I'm not combusting all the extra plant material . Is doing a shot at the bar similar to smoking crack ?
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WESTPORTMAFIA 01-07-2014, 05:33 PM $73.90! Hahheh
And it's gonna split on the 16th !
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Where did u see that?
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Raven 01-07-2014, 05:40 PM you can blame the federal government (nixon's henchmen)for it's scare tactics and mislabeling of
pot as a schedule one drug right next to cocaine or heroin
that was based on pure fiction @ the time
and was done so in/ around the nixon era long before the current quality
was created and modified.... it was like HAY at that time ...HAY!!!
and they wanted to keep the migrants (mexicans) out of this country
they didn't like what was happening in the black Jaz muscian scene where
"mota" was being used heavily pre bob marley...
but this prohibition thing...what it did was :point: it JACKED up it's VALUE to
unprecedented levels forcing it under ground and created the black market
ALSO the persecution of people over it.... like the KENT STATE shootings
where the hippy's stuck flowers into their gun barrels
and the gestapo like tactics of enforcement kept increasing the fervor over it...
there is very MUCH FEAR created over
it with false propaganda (because of the gov.)
and that fear has multiplied over time creating the situation we have today
there has been a trillion dollars spent on this and the prison industry has gone
out of control ....where we have more people in prisons than any other country on earth.....
and what is prison.... it's a rape factory where people get sent to be raped
repeatedly ,beaten, stabbed ...indoctrinated into GANGS ....
and these same people are then being released back into society when their time is up...
then they cannot get a job, or they can only get a minimum wage job
to satisfy the p.o. so they deal on the side because it's way to lucrative ...why? because the government made it that way....
they act all self righteous about battling the scourge of the drugs they made profitable in the first place.
they need to look in the mirror
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i'll never forget seeing unmarked camo cargo planes flying at tree top level right out of mexico
......that was the contra affair our own government getting "IN" on the action.... to produce funds for black ops....
they scraped the old oak tree's and messed up the driveway that i just finished cleaning with the backpack blower.... every week
none were ever caught
So call me a crackhead ! Hah!!
Ive done dabs out west before and it's definitely not crack , it's harm reduction . I can vape a tiny dab and get the same effect as smoking a joint . Thing is with a dab I'm not combusting all the extra plant material . Is doing a shot at the bar similar to smoking crack ?
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Chef.. i know all about it, and you are confirming my point. you need a tiny dab to equal smoking a joint. What happens when someone smokes a lot of it? might as well eat a bag of shrooms… Im not opposed to it, its just that is is high octane stuff..
oh.. check this out- http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/investing/marijuana-stocks/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
spence 01-07-2014, 06:55 PM Chef.. i know all about it, and you are confirming my point. you need a tiny dab to equal smoking a joint. What happens when someone smokes a lot of it? might as well eat a bag of shrooms… Im not opposed to it, its just that is is high octane stuff..
I think the bigger issue may be the dangers in production. If there's a real concern they can always ban it. Just because pot is legal doesn't mean all forms.
-spence
justplugit 01-07-2014, 08:34 PM If there's a real concern they can always ban it.
-spence
LOL Spence, and what politician would lead that vote losing charge. :D
cheferson 01-07-2014, 09:21 PM Chef.. i know all about it, and you are confirming my point. you need a tiny dab to equal smoking a joint. What happens when someone smokes a lot of it? might as well eat a bag of shrooms… Im not opposed to it, its just that is is high octane stuff..
oh.. check this out- http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/investing/marijuana-stocks/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Yeah ,saw that article earlier .
Marijuana hysteria ...
Now dabs are similar in effect to shrooms? I currently indulge in neither , but not even remotely similar at any dose . You can only get so high man! Hah , seriously ! Massive sessions back in my yute taught me after the 1st joint , etc you really aren't getting any higher ! Here's an article for ya
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/brain2.html
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cheferson 01-07-2014, 09:34 PM Where did u see that?
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Up to 90 after hours.....
http://www.thedispensingsolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2-for-1-stock-split-press-release.pdf
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WESTPORTMAFIA 01-07-2014, 10:08 PM Up to 90 after hours.....
http://www.thedispensingsolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2-for-1-stock-split-press-release.pdf
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Just saw that.
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-07-2014, 10:11 PM Up to 90 after hours.....
http://www.thedispensingsolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2-for-1-stock-split-press-release.pdf
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That wouldn't include anyone who bought after the 18th like myself.
basswipe 01-08-2014, 04:54 PM Its time has come...legalize it and stop the insanity.
ProfessorM 01-08-2014, 08:21 PM Some people say pot makes you lose your memory............................................ ..................................
Um forgot what I came here for
Raven 01-08-2014, 08:44 PM the french and the canadians proved it was quite effective fighting cancer
this is the green oil not the refined oil.....
but that knowledge is being suppressed unfortunately....probably to safeguard
the cancer Industry as a whole... but that's merely a guess
the closest thing we have to a cancer cure is nano-bots that search and destroy cancer cells
but they haven't been approved yet by the FDA
South Korean scientists ....announced "today" that they have created nano bots
in the lab that seek out and kill cancer...cells
it certainly has properties of ANTI nausea post chemo therapy
and obviously increases your appetite....
recently this dipstick Doctor was saying that there's absolutely no such thing as medical marijuana
but europe has several patents registered in the us patent office for it
so he's just talkin the usual paranoia crap
I think that the legalization movement should drop the medical stance. Yes, it has some medicinal qualities. That is just icing on the cake! It is an enjoyable (to some) intoxicant, and responsible adults should be able to use it at their discretion. just like alcohol. except less dangerous/harmful.
done.
Back Beach 01-09-2014, 02:12 PM $73.90! Hahheh
And it's gonna split on the 16th !
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Don't be afraid to pocket your profits while you still have them. Its still fool's gold right now but the future seems to hold promise for the industry. Stock went from 90 a couple days ago to 42 this am.
I also put mjna and phot in my IRA and am pretty happy so far, but the companies are ridiculously valued, perhaps due to pump and dump stuff going on right now, thus I sold a bunch today just to lock in some profit.
Gotta admit though...Americans love their cigarettes, booze, fatty foods, both legal/ elicit drugs....that's all the thesis you need to risk a small amount of money on this industry. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
basswipe 01-09-2014, 03:49 PM I think that the legalization movement should drop the medical stance. Yes, it has some medicinal qualities. That is just icing on the cake! It is an enjoyable (to some) intoxicant, and responsible adults should be able to use it at their discretion. just like alcohol. except less dangerous/harmful.
done.
Drop the medical stance?I would invite you to sit down with a terminal cancer patient and say "drop the medical stance".Do you even have a clue as to how weed helps these people?
Weed in combination with pain meds helps these folks feel good relatively speaking and the fact that they can get stoned and actually laugh knowing that they are going to die...priceless.
Please think before you speak of what you know nothing about.
Drop the medical stance?I would invite you to sit down with a terminal cancer patient and say "drop the medical stance".Do you even have a clue as to how weed helps these people?
Weed in combination with pain meds helps these folks feel good relatively speaking and the fact that they can get stoned and actually laugh knowing that they are going to die...priceless.
Please think before you speak of what you know nothing about.
Basswipe.. what he means is 'just legalize it for all' and drop the medical only part.. Of course it should still be used for such issues as what you have mentioned. :)
basswipe 01-09-2014, 04:01 PM Basswipe.. what he means is 'just legalize it for all' and drop the medical only part.. Of course it should still be used for such issues as what you have mentioned. :)
That's my point,you CAN'T drop the medical aspect,it has to be included its that important.Trust me on this one.
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-09-2014, 04:13 PM Don't be afraid to pocket your profits while you still have them. Its still fool's gold right now but the future seems to hold promise for the industry. Stock went from 90 a couple days ago to 42 this am.
I also put mjna and phot in my IRA and am pretty happy so far, but the companies are ridiculously valued, perhaps due to pump and dump stuff going on right now, thus I sold a bunch today just to lock in some profit.
Gotta admit though...Americans love their cigarettes, booze, fatty foods, both legal/ elicit drugs....that's all the thesis you need to risk a small amount of money on this industry. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
I was going to sell mdbx yesterday before it tanked but guess what happened?????? Scotrade's effing website froze up for 45 minutes HOW CONVENIENT!!!!!!!!! By the time I was able to sell the stock was in the high 40's which was a 3k swing. I still made money but 3k less. I bitched at them on the phone and they gave me a lousy 20 free trades worth 140 bucks. I was on hold with them for a half hour trying to get someone on the phone to make the trade as the stock was plummeting. It wasn't my computer it was their website. I should of had a stop sell on it but didn't think I needed it as I was watching the stock by the minute. It's tough to win as it is never mind finally win good and get poked like that. I'm moving to Schwab!
That's my point,you CAN'T drop the medical aspect,it has to be included its that important.Trust me on this one.
i know very well what the medical benefits are. I speak strictly from a strategical point of view for the best way to get it legal.
IMO, a bunch of stoners arguing for "medical" marijuana comes off poorly to those who are on the fence with the issue. Like "hey, these stoners are trying to fool me saying they want medical, when obviously they are just a bunch of hippy stoners."
the fact is it should be legal for all, not just medical.
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-09-2014, 07:52 PM Made a few bucks on phot too and bought some more at the end of the day. See what tomorrow brings but all the weed stocks got hammered today. Made a small profit on hscc before it blew its giant load today also.
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The weed stocks were on fire. :hihi:
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IMO, a bunch of stoners arguing for "medical" marijuana comes off poorly to those who are on the fence with the issue. Like "hey, these stoners are trying to fool me saying they want medical, when obviously they are just a bunch of hippy stoners."
example (warning, language & drugs):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-XnQlO0Zjc
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-10-2014, 01:53 PM That's an example of a rich business man/rapper. A good one at that.
That's an example of an example of the breakdown in wholesome American family Values. A good one at that.
fixed it for ya:uhuh:
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-10-2014, 02:46 PM Lol
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his musical abilities and business acumen are indisputable
but by saying "go get yourself a medical marijuana recommendation, head to your local collective, and say I want the f'ing jet fuel." does a complete disservice to the medical marijuana movement.
I will take it a step further, the fact that the dispensaries market the product with street names like Jet Fuel, Diesel, Kush, NLxSkunk, etc.... totally trivializes the medical standpoint, and again, adds fodder for the anti-mmj advocates.
For MMJ, it should be treated with great seriousness. White lab coats. Tested. Labeled by % THC/CBD. Tinctures/pills/measured pre-rolls, and doled out by someone with some serious medical/pharmaceutical background.
For the rest of us they should sell it in coffee shops and market like they already do.
But lets be honest about what it is...
his musical abilities and business acumen are indisputable
but by saying "go get yourself a medical marijuana recommendation, head to your local collective, and say I want the f'ing jet fuel." does a complete disservice to the medical marijuana movement.
I will take it a step further, the fact that the dispensaries market the product with street names like Jet Fuel, Diesel, Kush, NLxSkunk, etc.... totally trivializes the medical standpoint, and again, adds fodder for the anti-mmj advocates.
For MMJ, it should be treated with great seriousness. White lab coats. Tested. Labeled by % THC/CBD. Tinctures/pills/measured pre-rolls, and doled out by someone with some serious medical/pharmaceutical background.
For the rest of us they should sell it in coffee shops and market like they already do.
But lets be honest about what it is...
I agree 100%.
Raven 01-10-2014, 05:29 PM shouldn't colorado farmers be able to grow hemp now
as a fiber crop.... with MJ being totally legal?
Clammer 01-10-2014, 07:29 PM && already has a MJ shortage :confused:
Slipknot 01-10-2014, 07:44 PM I know cannibis oil can be very helpful for people and a great alternative to chemo or raditation or surgery. I wish it were more wdiely available
I read that it can also help stroke victims
Anyone know about cannibis oil? how to extract it? what is in it?
I think the big money grubbing pharmaceutical companies are afraid of this stuff
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-12-2014, 12:11 AM I know cannibis oil can be very helpful for people and a great alternative to chemo or raditation or surgery. I wish it were more wdiely available
I read that it can also help stroke victims
Anyone know about cannibis oil? how to extract it? what is in it?
I think the big money grubbing pharmaceutical companies are afraid of this stuff
Thc is in it. Do a YouTube search. Pretty easy to do. It's concentrate.
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Raven 01-12-2014, 06:50 AM I know cannibis oil can be very helpful for people and a great alternative to chemo or raditation or surgery. I wish it were more wdiely available
I read that it can also help stroke victims
Anyone know about cannibis oil? how to extract it? what is in it?
I think the big money grubbing pharmaceutical companies are afraid of this stuff
a green oil or "crude oil" is the one that helps with Cancer especially
skin cancer... it is known to shrink tumors in the brain ....a typically difficult place to perform surgical procedure's...
in general it helps with nausea and pain modification...
the high in canabinoids (low in thc )strain is what stops epileptic seizures
oil extraction is the same for all aromatics
similar to a coffee maker that drips water thru ground beans
alcohol (preferably pure moonshine) is dripped thru it
(coarse material)
washing out the oils into a solution
afterwards the alcohol is then allowed to evaporate off....
this has to be done outdoors for safety reasons
same as running a stil
Raven 01-12-2014, 07:01 AM the government always denied area 51
the park service says no one has ever disappeared
men in black said "speak of this and your bones will never be found"
there is a definite disinformation campaign going on here
you can always google: "run from the cure"
cheferson 01-12-2014, 08:46 AM I know cannibis oil can be very helpful for people and a great alternative to chemo or raditation or surgery. I wish it were more wdiely available
I read that it can also help stroke victims
Anyone know about cannibis oil? how to extract it? what is in it?
I think the big money grubbing pharmaceutical companies are afraid of this stuff
Careful that stuff is like crack , mushrooms , heroin and crystal meth all rolled into one! Heh , right nebe ?!
Seriously , it's called Rick Simpson oil . I bet now that mass is medical you could find some on cl .
Backbeach , already took profits ! I had to argue with a buddy for an hr to get him to sell his hemp inc shares at .08 ! He had already made close to 250% , and thought it was going to a buck , heh . Should have just let em lose it ! I learned a ton from trading alt coins , which is why I opened an Ira !
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Raven 01-12-2014, 06:14 PM Careful that stuff is like crack , mushrooms , heroin and crystal meth all rolled into one! Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
this statement is PURE GARBAGE
BMEUPSCOTTY 01-31-2014, 12:54 PM Well, the list of the first MA mmj dispensaries is out. No love for the islands, not even on the list of those invited to reapply in a different location. Delahunt's group awarded 3 permits in Mashpee, Taunton and Plymouth. The group from New Bedford (Coastal Compassion) scored as high or higher than 14 of the 20 successful candidates, and was invited to reapply with a different location. The brothers from California who were the subject of 'Weed Wars' on Discovery Channel got one of the two permits in Boston proper. Franklin and Berkshire counties join the islands as not having successful applicants. Curious to see how smoothly this rolls out. Five years ago I never would have thought that Massachusetts would have pot dispensaries before they had casinos...
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These are some high times indeed.
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Raven 01-31-2014, 07:11 PM fairhaven will have a shop :btu:
i lived on west island for awhile
until some creeps stole (&used)my car then
pulled some b&E's in dartmouth and got me
in big trouble.....(left it @ a front end shop there)
never would have thought "that some day"
weed would be legal to buy (if qualified )
in good ole Fairhaven :hs:
WESTPORTMAFIA 01-31-2014, 08:43 PM I smoked about 86 pounds of weed in my day! If I smoke it now there is a 50% chance I'll be paranoid for 3 hours. It's a really fun time or a really horrible 3 hour ride that feels like forever. I could care less to smoke but I'm 100% for the legalization and think its about time.
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WESTPORTMAFIA 01-31-2014, 08:56 PM I remember hanging out at high noon at the Boston common when I was a soon to be freshman in high school for freedom fest with Mass cann norml. The good times that started it all. I was with Bill Downing the president of Mass Cann when the cops arrested him for wearing a pig nose and chanting oinks along with the hippies playing bongos. They released him as they had no grounds for arresting him. He had some balls and strong belief on the reform.
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Raven 01-31-2014, 10:24 PM referring to cancer again
while green oil is good for reduction of cancerous tumors
it's not that available unless you know a producer...
~
but Reishe mushrooms are and they grow out of DEAD trees
they have ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC anti carcinogenic properties
and their use goes back 1000's of years in Chinese medicine
BEETLE 02-02-2014, 03:45 PM QUOTE]By WESTPORTMAFIA - I smoked about 86 pounds of weed in my day! If I smoke it now there is a 50% chance I'll be paranoid for 3 hours. It's a really fun time or a really horrible 3 hour ride that feels like forever. I could care less to smoke but I'm 100% for the legalization and think its about time.
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Same here WPM. :btu:
Me 3
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afterhours 02-02-2014, 04:35 PM If you have a few minutes read this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor
Raven 02-02-2014, 05:37 PM quite a few references on that WIKI page
but.......... there is not a single testimonial
talk to someone with severe osteo arthritis
and they'll tell you it makes a huge difference
on how your able to "manage" the Pain
without having to take more harmful medications
Raven 02-06-2014, 03:19 PM just saw a discussion on TV concerning the NFL's use
of cannabis to ease the pain suffered in football
and to destress and the general consensus was that the NFL
has reached the point of throwing their collective hands in the AIR and allow it
same as they do alcohol ...because the players are saying they'll use it anyways.
just saw a discussion on TV concerning the NFL's use
of cannabis to ease the pain suffered in football
and to destress and the general consensus was that the NFL
has reached the point of throwing their collective hands in the AIR and allow it
same as they do alcohol ...because the players are saying they'll use it anyways.
No wonder Denver got SMOKED :rotfl::jump1::rotfl:
Raven 02-06-2014, 08:16 PM saw this other show NEBE:
that was saying that the WAR on DRUGS
is contributing to global warming because they are using aerial defoliants
similar to AGENT ORANGE to eradicate certain forests known to hide
the drug labs and or fields that produce cocaine plants...
and that is reducing the co2 and all that jaz blah blah....
That's really sad
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Raven 02-07-2014, 07:29 AM Cancer cells are essentially told by cannabis use to commit SUICIDE
don't take my word for it tho
WATCh this video in it's entirety
.................................................. .or in particular
from 9.00 -> til the end for a Doctors scientific explanation
best i've ever seen in my opinion..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttdDOqQMuY
Raven 02-21-2014, 07:47 PM GIRLSCOUT SELLS OUT `
cookie sales excellent next to dispensary
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/living/2014/02/21/dnt-girl-scout-cookies-outside-marijuana-dispensary.kpix.html
fishsmith 02-21-2014, 09:26 PM GIRLSCOUT SELLS OUT `
cookie sales excellent next to dispensary
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/living/2014/02/21/dnt-girl-scout-cookies-outside-marijuana-dispensary.kpix.html
Smart kid!! Location location location
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nightfighter 03-31-2014, 05:29 PM http://financetrends.blogspot.com/2014/03/marijuana-stocks-cannabis-fuels-2014.html
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