Really? WTF.......

Who?
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Brian Boitano, for starters.....

Imagine; a homosexual figure skater?
Next thing you know Greg Louganus will come out.

What's the big deal....2 each their own....Robin Roberts just came out too

Imagine; a homosexual figure skater?

And an Olympic champion at that.
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It's a direct FU to Putin and I love it. I despise Obama, but this is a pretty good dig.
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It's a direct FU to Putin and I love it. I despise Obama, but this is a pretty good dig.
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That's exactly my thought.

While its a nice middle finger I'd assume Putin is more concerned with terrorists blowing up the games.
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It's a direct FU to Putin and I love it. I despise Obama, but this is a pretty good dig.
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While its a nice middle finger I'd assume Putin is more concerned with terrorists blowing up the games.
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It is an action that I would expect from a high school kid as opposed to our POTUS, sophomoric at best. Think Reagan would have been satisfied with flipping the bird with a gay messenger corps? "Oh, hi. I'm here from the US to annoy you, just a little..." Nothing less than a "tap" and twist where the sun don't shine would have been sent by a great leader, IMO......

We've seen at best, lukewarm leadership & foreign policy with this administration. So once you orientate your expectations down you can take this passive aggressive move for what it is, a mildly impressive dig at Pooty.

My firm stand is that orienting down, as you say, or the general acceptance of lower standards across the board by Americans in today's society, is extenuating the demise of America from its era of gold into rust.... I won't be around to see it, thank God, but the fall is not too far off, IMO.

My firm stand is that orienting down, as you say, or the general acceptance of lower standards across the board by Americans in today's society, is extenuating the demise of America from its era of gold into rust.... I won't be around to see it, thank God, but the fall is not too far off, IMO.
Wait, tolerance and acceptance of gay people is lowering our standards???

-spence

Wait, tolerance and acceptance of gay people is lowering our standards???

-spence

No, Mr Spinmeister. Having to promote and defend that, as a priority and worthy of front page values is what I question as being representative of what America stands for. Go look at CL personals and see how many men for men ads there are and tell me that is what we need to be discussing, promoting, defending, and pretending that having all this in full view is contributing to a better society.

No, Mr Spinmeister. Having to promote and defend that, as a priority and worthy of front page values is what I question as being representative of what America stands for. Go look at CL personals and see how many men for men ads there are and tell me that is what we need to be discussing, promoting, defending, and pretending that having all this in full view is contributing to a better society.
What does any of this have to do with CL personals?

-spence

I think the bigger question is why he knows how many m4m ads there are.....

Anything you want to add Nightfighter?

Simple, straightforward answer for that, Chris. Front page of CL Boston, looking to click "boats." Cursor doesn't have to stray far to the left to be accidently in the wrong search group. When all that chit came up, with Johnson stuffing pics, I was like WTF!?!?!? This stuff is too accessible, and too much accepted.

What does any of this have to do with CL personals?

-spence
Rephrase your question and I'll answer

Rephrase your question and I'll answer

The question is pretty straightforward.

It sounds like your beef has more to do with adult content than the Olympics. How you connected the two is still beyond me.
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too dangerous to go there as many world leaders have said
nope not gonna do it...
plus i think it's an acknowledgement that Russia has been funneling the weaponry
that's killing innocent women and children

i mean Hey,
when the sniper targets the baby in the womb with his first shot
then kills the mother afterwards with the second shot
that's going to have some ramifications to be sure.

i mean Hey,
when the sniper targets the baby in the womb with his first shot
then kills the mother afterwards with the second shot
that's going to have some ramifications to be sure.

It certainly is fuel for radicalization. At that point you become so outraged you don't care who's on your side.

-spence

The question is pretty straightforward.

It sounds like your beef has more to do with adult content than the Olympics. How you connected the two is still beyond me.
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Stop playing the stupid card. It is your MO as you posture your next response. Enough of us here have discussed it and are sick of it. YOU got the point and acknowledged it in your response about giving Putin the middle finger by sending a blatantly gay biased party under the guise of representing the President. The adult content, as you choose to see it is the moral denigration of our fabric as a country, as we have been getting the gay rights shoved down our throats, and into our streets and schools. I find it hard to swallow that this is the platform Obama chooses to represent himself, and the American people, with.

Since when does being gay = smut? It sounds like that's what you're saying.
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Stop playing the stupid card. It is your MO as you posture your next response. Enough of us here have discussed it and are sick of it. YOU got the point and acknowledged it in your response about giving Putin the middle finger by sending a blatantly gay biased party under the guise of representing the President. The adult content, as you choose to see it is the moral denigration of our fabric as a country, as we have been getting the gay rights shoved down our throats, and into our streets and schools. I find it hard to swallow that this is the platform Obama chooses to represent himself, and the American people, with.
:claps:

I just think it's awesome that the greatest country on earth sends a gay former gold medal winner as their representative to a country that is outwardly intolerant of homosexuality. Definitely petty, possibly childish, but i will enjoy it thoroughly.

Again, this is NOT foreign policy. This is amateur athletics.
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I'm just as shocked as everyone else that Brian Boitano came out as Gay.....:shocked:

Didn't see that coming...

I'm sure Obama is tired of getting repeatedly out-maneuvered by Putin on the world stage (eg Syria), here is Obamna's chance to say "nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah". That's all this is.

Agreed
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I just think it's awesome that the greatest country on earth sends a gay former gold medal winner as their representative to a country that is outwardly intolerant of homosexuality. Definitely petty, possibly childish, but i will enjoy it thoroughly.

And that's all it is. Funny how some can't even stand to give O a few props without twisting it into something it isn't.

-spence

And that's all it is. Funny how some can't even stand to give O a few props without twisting it into something it isn't.

-spence

Yes, we should all take a page fom your book, and give credit where it's due, even to our adversaries. I asked you once about Bush's AIDS program that is credited with saving more than one million lives in Africa. You dismissed that as simply a "gesture". I remember that like it was yesterday. When Bush saves a million lives, it's merely a neocon "gesture".

Why don't you practice what you preach sometime?

Well, as you used quotes I assume I said something using that word but search is coming up empty.

As you remember it like it was yesterday, why don't you tell me exactly what I said.

-spence

Well, as you used quotes I assume I said something using that word but search is coming up empty.

As you remember it like it was yesterday, why don't you tell me exactly what I said.

-spence

Read my post, I told you what you said. Does that not sound like one of your Marxist utterances?

I believe the context was Obama's shameful winning of the Nobel Peace Prize, for which he was nominated during the first 2 weeks of his presidency. I wondered what Obama had done for world peace that could begin to compare with Bush saving a million lives. You said something to the effct of "while Bush may have made a 'gesture', that doesn't compare to the dizzling perfection and out-of-this-world genius and leg-tingling physical beauty of Obama, who will bring the whole universe together in a group hug."

I papraphrased the second half, but you get the drift.

No, I don't use the word "gesture" very often.

-spence

Stop playing the stupid card. It is your MO as you posture your next response. Enough of us here have discussed it and are sick of it. YOU got the point and acknowledged it in your response about giving Putin the middle finger by sending a blatantly gay biased party under the guise of representing the President. The adult content, as you choose to see it is the moral denigration of our fabric as a country, as we have been getting the gay rights shoved down our throats, and into our streets and schools. I find it hard to swallow that this is the platform Obama chooses to represent himself, and the American people, with.


CL put thee Phoenix out of business. That is certainly a feather in CL's cap.
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It is an action that I would expect from a high school kid as opposed to our POTUS, sophomoric at best. Think Reagan would have been satisfied with flipping the bird with a gay messenger corps? "Oh, hi. I'm here from the US to annoy you, just a little..." Nothing less than a "tap" and twist where the sun don't shine would have been sent by a great leader, IMO......

So how many world championships and olympic events have you won again?

The answer is none, dip chit....:grins: Not quite sure what that has to do with it. Being a champion was just one of the qualifications to be considered. To make the short list, there was clearly another determining factor, one which I find outrageous to decide the make up of a group being sent to represent the leader of the country.

The answer is none, dip chit....:grins: Not quite sure what that has to do with it. Being a champion was just one of the qualifications to be considered. To make the short list, there was clearly another determining factor, one which I find outrageous to decide the make up of a group being sent to represent the leader of the country.

So who would you suggest exactly?

What should be the determining factor? How much money they have? How many retarded plastic made in china things they've endorsed?
How many crappy piss water beer logos they have on their competition gear?

So who would you suggest exactly?

The Mahre brothers, Tamara McKinney, Picabo. All great American winter champions who re-entered mainstream America without being in the tabloids and police reports.
As for factors, I would hope they would at least be American VALUES... I don't know what that list of yours is meant to represent, but it sure as hell isn't me...
What should be the determining factor? How much money they have? How many retarded plastic made in china things they've endorsed?
How many crappy piss water beer logos they have on their competition gear?

...You really want to do this? I have been down a different, but similar road with you before......

Its not like the Delegation is made up entirely of Gays. There are 10 people going....3 are gay...and 1 of them came out after being selected (thats the chance you take when selecting a male figure skater :hihi:)

Of the 3 that are Gay:

Billie Jean King - the fact that she is gay should be moot considering all that she has done for Women and Women's Athletics in this country

Brian Boitano - He was the face of Men's Olympic Figure skating for quite some time and is an Olympic Gold Medalist

Caitlin Cahow - She has 2 Olympic medals in Women's Hockey.

If these 3 weren't gay, would anybody have any problem with them being selected on their own merits?

People should be more upset at the fact that the Media isn't mentioning the other 7 that are going and only fixating on, and making it about, the 3 Gay representatives.

The Mahre brothers, Tamara McKinney, Picabo. All great American winter champions who re-entered mainstream America without being in the tabloids and police reports.
As for factors, I would hope they would at least be American VALUES... I don't know what that list of yours is meant to represent, but it sure as hell isn't me...

So what exactly are Brian Boitano's values? You seem to be an expert.

Only one of the Mahre brothers took gold.
McKinney never won an olympic medal.
Picabo is a spokesperson for the US Olympic ski team already. (and makes money commentating on the ski events, making money off the olympics! american values!)

So I'm going to guess from your statements, a: you have zero reason to think he's a bad rep other than because he's gay b: you associate being gay with being in a "scandal"?

So what exactly are Brian Boitano's values? You seem to be an expert.


Clearly, he's gay, so he must be a deviant.

Instead of Boitano they should have picked another male figure skater. How about J.. or b... or...ahh,

nevermind.

Instead of Boitano they should have picked another male figure skater. How about J.. or b... or...ahh,

nevermind.

Rudy Galindo :hihi:

http://www.rudy-galindo.com/20100429FCOI.jpg

Gay = happy.

Was the choice of the representatives made soley by the big "O"?
Or was there a panel who made the selections?

If they were chosen soley because of their profession in relation to the Olympics, then there should be no question whatsoever.
If, however, they were chosen primarily on their lifestyle choices, then there is an issue. Not an issue that would completely destroy our American way of life, but destroy our faith in our leader(s) and question their intelligence and integrity.

Hey, it could just be another form of "affirmative action", right??? :smash:

I guess if you are Putin, and some radical islamists loosely connected to Al Qaeda..or not....start a supposed protest that there may or may not be any evidence of because there are claims somewhere that they say they are offended by gay athletes sent by the great and powerful O to represent the great satan which then escalates to a possibly organized or probably unorganized attack resulting in the unfortunate death some attendees, athletes etc......Putin can blame Barry for giving the finger by sending the athletes which started the possible protests which caused the loosely organized attacks which resulted in the deaths/injuries and when asked why he did not prevent this type of thing or heed the signs despite countless incidents/warnings leading up to it he can scream..."what difference does it make?????"


It's worked before:)

Gay = happy.

It was when I was a kid
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Between the lack of snow and the potential for terrorism this could be a very interesting Olympics. Lets hope the Russian police state can at least eliminate the later.
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It was when I was a kid
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wasn't it also part of the fred flintstone theme song
about having a gay old time....