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nightfighter
09-21-2014, 04:28 PM
Three leading shore bass are heavier than boat bass leader.

Lots of albies

Lots of bonita

I need to sneak over. Need to hook up with someone who already has car there.... Need to figure out if I have a contact right in Edgartown.....

mvderby.com their fb page has more updates and pics to get your juices going.

rphud
09-21-2014, 06:02 PM
Pick a day. Already told the boss man a severe case of fish pox was looming. I can meet you at the parking lot and take my car over. Was thinking of going it alone anyways if the bones are still in play.

nightfighter
09-24-2014, 08:40 PM
New leader in flyrod boat albie at 10.22#

rickhern
09-24-2014, 10:06 PM
Snuck over last night to fish the morning bite and got my first ever Bone.

Ross, still have some room for you.

rphud
09-26-2014, 06:18 AM
So here it is 26SEP and there are still bones on the beach....wonder what this all means....

Hope they are still on shore next week with some bigger faster brothers.

Sea Dangles
09-26-2014, 06:39 AM
My brother got a bone this morning up island.

JohnR
09-26-2014, 07:14 AM
:wall::cens::crying:

nightfighter
09-26-2014, 07:22 AM
http://www.mvtimes.com/webcams/chappy-ferry/

Torture myself when I see shore guys casting to albies.

I have seen many SUVs with kayaks and fish buggies heading over.... Saw Stripermainiac's truck headed over earlier.

Rick Hern, I will know more middle of next week.

Bob Huddy, I will give you a call

rphud
09-26-2014, 07:28 AM
Up Island....hhhmmmmm

no shore Alberts of late though, be nice to get shots at both speedsters

weekend is booked .......but Monday.......or Tuesday.....or....

rickhern
09-26-2014, 08:15 AM
Up Island....hhhmmmmm

no shore Alberts of late though, be nice to get shots at both speedsters

weekend is booked .......but Monday.......or Tuesday.....or....

Don't assume that there are no shore Albies just because they are not being weighed in:uhuh:

3 fish limit/derby.

rphud
09-26-2014, 02:26 PM
everybody looking for that 16 pounder now?

Last year there were board fish that were under length, this year maybe the same?

Swimmer
09-26-2014, 04:25 PM
Ya know, bones push out albies. Bones are faster and more agressive on the bait. When they start slipping away, albies start mixing in and take over.
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rphud
09-26-2014, 06:42 PM
best case scenario....bones up island and albies down island?

When was the last time that happened?

Renegade6
09-28-2014, 04:49 PM
this week

rickhern
09-28-2014, 08:13 PM
this week

It's easy right? Just show up for a few days, oversleep, walk out onto a crowded fishless jetty and catch a Bone, then head to the other end of the island for a weighable Albie. Nuttin' hard about that.

Except for avoiding being thrown off of said jetty the next time you show your face.

Renegade6
09-28-2014, 08:47 PM
Everyone there wanted to kill me. Or hoped I'd be struck dead. Can't blame them. How do you explain dumb luck? Lots of people there with more skill and experience. I just show
up and throw alot
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rickhern
09-29-2014, 07:32 AM
As an aside, Mr. Renegade was lamenting the fact that he had hooked a scup on his favorite epoxy jig until that scup miraculously turned into his first Bonito.

blondterror
10-01-2014, 07:44 AM
fished squibby pt last night and ran into Stripermaniac at the top of the tide.... no love for either of us unfortunately... the fishing has slowed way down both hardtails and bass/blues

PaulS
10-01-2014, 08:08 AM
Total Bass weighed in are down a lot from last year.

Renegade6
10-01-2014, 09:09 AM
Total Bass weighed in are down a lot from last year.

When do you arrive? :uhuh:

PaulS
10-01-2014, 09:27 AM
Wens.

See you then.

nightfighter
10-04-2014, 05:30 AM
Stripermaineac hit the daily board with a shore bass. Good going Ron!
Surprised not to have heard from Mr Sandman.......

ProfessorM
10-04-2014, 06:45 AM
Peter is going over this weekend for a while get ready for the big fish exodus.
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blondterror
10-04-2014, 07:35 AM
Swimmer heads over for 2 weeks today as well.. Go team SB.com

I saw Ron at Squibby on Tues night.. I wonder if he found his bass there
yesterday

nightfighter
10-10-2014, 11:37 AM
There is a 30" albie in a cooler, waiting for tonight's weigh in....


https://www.facebook.com/mvderby

blondterror
10-10-2014, 03:27 PM
they say it is 14+ lbs

ProfessorM
10-10-2014, 06:26 PM
who caught it Keith M. He had a 16+ lber a couple years ago, 2009 I think

PaulS
10-10-2014, 07:29 PM
I think it was an older woman
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rphud
10-10-2014, 08:51 PM
I think it was an older woman
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Another 32 will put you back on top Paul. Get busy.
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BMEUPSCOTTY
10-11-2014, 10:22 AM
I think it was an older woman
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Mary Ann Angelone. I Googled her name because I worked with an Angelone, and I believe she's the widow of a retired secret service agent, and mother of a current one.

The Derby site is having major issues, she is not currently listed as a grand leader, though I'm sure I saw it last night...

Edit: Now it's fixed again...
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PaulS
10-11-2014, 01:22 PM
Her husband passed away while fishing the Derby a few years ago.
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BasicPatrick
10-11-2014, 05:34 PM
Some of the crew arrived and opened the house today. About 4pm SurfPirate and I hopped on the boat and went a mile outside OB Harbor then we turned around…too rough. He is working the filet table this evening…stop by and give him a hard time.

nightfighter
10-11-2014, 07:50 PM
Any idea why there appears to have been an afternoon weigh in today? Shows up on weekly leaders and reports of new bonito leader

Renegade6
10-11-2014, 09:41 PM
Any idea why there appears to have been an afternoon weigh in today? Shows up on weekly leaders and reports of new bonito leader

The website was down/having problems yesterday and last night

There were long delays because they had to manually enter many of the entries from yesterday after the fact. It took some time for totals to update and catch up

It still wasn't fully functional at this morning's weigh in. Still manually writing down fish when I went in at 8:30. Seems to have caught up and totals are accurate as if this afternoon

Paul and Rick are out hitting it hard at this moment in some heavy wind. Here's hoping they come back with some slobs
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rickhern
10-14-2014, 11:00 AM
renegade6 survived another weigh-in in 1st for shore slam!!

PaulS
10-14-2014, 12:07 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for Jim!

rickhern
10-15-2014, 09:19 AM
Some reflections on this years week at the derby:

Nothing better than seeing kids catch fish! Lenny's son Andrew had his first Albie on his first trip to the Island and my son Anthony and Tony O's nephew Zachary(best buds) had an epic scup derby!

Tony O is a top rod wherever he wets a line.(and his steak tips are remarkable)

Speaking of steak tips, thank you Derek for sharing your culinary expertise.

Ken, Ryan and Jimmy V catching their first 2 albies each.

total of about 40 man-hours in the surf, swimming/skishing, throwing eels all over some great water and we managed 7 bass in a 2 hour slot. Otherwise, the seas were barren.

Yes, Seabass do hit eels.

I went 2 for a zillion on albies, one on an Albie Snax, the other on a stetzko needle. Jim had a load of them but he never switched from his Pink hogy jig. I guess if it ain't broke.......

It's hard to imagine that catching a single 22" bluefish could cause so much anxiety.

Thanks to Jared for showing us one of his secret spots and to John and Bob on the wharf for some great bluefish intel.

BMEUPSCOTTY
10-15-2014, 12:25 PM
Looking forward to some pics when it's all over. :btu:

nightfighter
10-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Mrs Sandman made today's board!

rphud
10-16-2014, 07:14 AM
Fly Rod Shore Slam! Awesome Mr. Contessa.

nightfighter
10-16-2014, 11:38 AM
http://www.mvtimes.com/2014/10/15/gone-fishin-angie-taught-mary-ann-well/

PaulS
10-16-2014, 12:18 PM
Good article Ross. Thanks for posting.

The author talks about the "true meaning of the Derby". He should go out with Rick Hern. Rick was the first person to get me to wetsuit by letting me wear one of his wetsuits and borrowing one of his Nautils (of course he didn't tell me until later that he peed in the wetsuit).

When Jim knew that if he was able to weigh in a Bluefish, he would take over the Grand Slam lead, Rick prob. spent the next 30 hours of fishing trying to catch Jim a Blue - fishing certain spots he wouldn't fish if we was trying to catch a Bass, catching Squid, netting other bait fish and transporting them in a livewell to certain spots, chunking and making sure to never touch the rods if a fish was hitting them so Jim could hook and land the fish, etc. etc. If anyone knows Rick you know he wanted to Bass fish as much as anyone but sacrificing to help a friend was more important to him (and that is why I lie to him and kid him by saying that he is a better guide than a fisherman). I saw a kid come up to him and start talking about squiding as I don't think he was catching any. About 3 min. later I see Rick handing the kid a bunch of his home made squid jigs.

I could give you many, many more examples.

blondterror
10-16-2014, 07:59 PM
Great Article on the lady (Mary Ann) who is leading the shore albie....


some classy stuff happening ....


http://www.mvtimes.com/2014/10/15/gone-fishin-angie-taught-mary-ann-well/

rickhern
10-16-2014, 11:19 PM
Thanks Paul for the nice words. I had a reason for helping Jim since he was my teammate. You, on the other hand, sacrificed a good portion of your Derby tagging along with us. Thank you for your understanding and I hope you take some satisfaction in Jim's slam.

freebie
10-17-2014, 04:46 PM
thanks Rick for the invite. was an awesome time fishing and hanging out with you guys.

heres a little Albie porn59911

59912

Renegade6
10-17-2014, 08:18 PM
i have some great pics ill put up and some great highlights

after its all over

needless to say - im grateful to supportive friends and teammates.

Ive been a beneficiary of the largesse of others, and hopefully from being a student of the game

im humbled by even standing in the company of some of the best anglers in the game

I've come to realize that as much of an individual effort as it is, its more of a team effort

thanks to all of you I have learned from- whether this results in awards or not.

Thats the least important part of all of this..... im a wealthy man from what i have learned, and from meeting many of you

PaulS
10-19-2014, 01:54 PM
Jim👍☀️🌊🇺🇸
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bart
10-19-2014, 02:49 PM
awesome accomplishment!

BMEUPSCOTTY
10-19-2014, 02:59 PM
Bluefish sweep the key ceremony! Congrats to all that fished The Derby, you all win... Good posts in this thread, exactly what the derby is all about...

I've been thinking lately that I wish the Derby Committee would either raise the SB minimum limit or stop the dailies like the albies, but with the weigh in #s down, I'm not sure how they have to address it yet. I'm actually hoping the weigh in numbers dropped higher proportionally than the catch numbers, indicating a bit of restraint on the anglers part...
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Swimmer
10-19-2014, 05:39 PM
Back from the vineyard, in what was a fairly uneventful derby by most peoples standards. Met several people who live on Chappy year round, who started giving me bits and pieces of fishing info. Making connections is almost as good as catching, but not quite. Caught a dozen or so albies, one a new PB for the smallest albie I ever caught. Worked harx to dredge up one bluefish. The derby thrill happened early one evening when a seagul flew into my fishing line as I was chunking on an east facing beach. After throwing a towel and jacket over the gul, and attempting to save my power pro line, that was wrapped around two wings and one leg, my second rod bends over hard and gets yank out of the rod holder. That other rod then starts heading down the sand into the trough. By the time I stopped stumbling over myself and my waders, and picked up the rod whose top 1/4 was now wet, I yanked it back to set the hook, but the fish was gone. My first thought was, this better not be the 2014 derby thrill. Its not always the catching though, its the entire journey. Every morning driving the trails I saw anywhere from 3 to 20 deer, all healthy, all does. We've already reserved the house for next year. Peace.
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rickhern
10-20-2014, 12:01 PM
Hey Frank, the Derby is filled with "what If's" Jim and I were lamenting that had we stayed and fished closer to you that night, we would have been able to help with the bird and you may have caught that fish(which was surely a 17.87 bluefish).

Wait 'til next year.

BasicPatrick
10-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Another Derby has indeed come and gone. It really is less about the fish and more about the friends for me however it was awesome to once again get into the bonito, even if it was from the boat. We definitely were hindered by the wind but were able to spend enough hours on the water to make the cost of bringing it over worth it. Besides the return of good numbers of bonito it was also great to share a night with Surfpirate, my brother Ronnie and take old man Johnny squidding. Its been a loooong time since I had 100 squid in the bucket but we got them this year in just one night. We spent most of our time throwing eels at no bass along the Elizabeth's. I was shocked that we never once got a hit. Just shows how few Stripers are around compared to prior years. All in all a great week and plans for next year are already underway. Really missed Rphud who had circumstances out of his control prevent him form using his bed.

I had my 2014 Derby moment on the back side of Nantucket. Trolling a sand eel umbrella through a beautiful rip that shall remain nameless we hooked a fish that had the "almost" locked down 4/0 Senator screaming. 30 feet out we started thinking we had a decent Bass because of the sandy brown color and fat body. 20 feet out and "HOLY SH#&T" that's a giant Bluefish. I have won multiple tournaments with 14-16 pound bluefish and haven't seen one larger in many many years. When it simply opened its mouth and spit the rig at about 8 feet from the boat it sort of twisted there for a moment in time. SurfPirate took a failed shot at it with the net but it was just out of reach. We clearly saw that the both the head and tail were outside the 34" width of the net. I guarantee this fish was well over 15. How big we will never know but it was from a spot at a time when true monsters are known to be harvested. As my old friend Bells from the Island said to me, it just wasn't my time..YET. Eventually its gonna happen and until then Ill just enjoy the journey.

bloocrab
10-22-2014, 12:32 AM
i have some great pics ill put up and some great highlights...etc//

:kewl:

Great job Jim, very happy for you.
Fish or no fish, it's always a good time when in good company, never mind showing them up....:rotf2: