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JohnR
12-17-2014, 12:20 PM
Wow. This could be good. The Castro brothers time is closing, good time to pull back into our sphere of influence in a positive manner. Magnificent possibilities.

Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.

FishermanTim
12-17-2014, 03:11 PM
Maybe see about investing in Cuban cigars???

spence
12-17-2014, 03:11 PM
Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.
Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

detbuch
12-17-2014, 04:55 PM
Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

That's okay because Bush, or McCain, or Romney would have done the same thing.

JohnR
12-17-2014, 05:33 PM
Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

No, he did not cause it but he has shanked most things that cross his desk.

But I understand, he probably has a Che shirt in his closet. Ya know, trendy and all.

detbuch
12-17-2014, 05:37 PM
Wow. This could be good. The Castro brothers time is closing, good time to pull back into our sphere of influence in a positive manner. Magnificent possibilities.

Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.

I don't think Obama is concerned with our sphere of influence. I think he considers that an outdated notion of American superiority which flies against the progress of history. I think he subscribes to a global sphere of influence which breaks down borders and rejects the idea that individuals are masters of their fate who can succeed to a good life on their own. That he favors a global collective in which all cooperate under the governance of a worldwide network of experts who can create the parameters for egalitarian justice and opportunity. A world where every citizen is equal in every reasonable respect, and can only rise above the rest if done so in service to the larger communities. A world in which we are not subjects of greedy capitalists, but rather are happy, healthy, subjects of an enlightened and beneficent ruling class which sees to it that we are free, as FDR said, from want and fear. And that we therefor are provided with a cradle to grave safety net, with justly provided employment with no disparity in wages, with universal government provided health care, with as close to a socialist utopia as possible.

What he does at a record pace in his final two years will be a step in that direction. Cuba is just a small but significant preliminary piece. If "normalizing" relations with Cuba turns it into some booming capitalistic Hong Kong, then I think he will consider that to have been a screw up.

Raven
12-18-2014, 05:16 AM
shanked... :rotflmao: most excellent choice of verbs there Bossman

justplugit
12-18-2014, 08:27 PM
I think he subscribes to a global sphere of influence which breaks down borders and rejects the idea that individuals are masters of their fate who can succeed to a good life on their own. That he favors a global collective in which all cooperate under the governance of a worldwide network of experts who can create the parameters for egalitarian justice and opportunity. A world where every citizen is equal in every reasonable respect, and can only rise above the rest if done so in service to the larger communities. A world in which we are not subjects of greedy capitalists, but rather are happy, healthy, subjects of an enlightened and beneficent ruling class which sees to it that we are free, as FDR said, from want and fear. And that we therefor are provided with a cradle to grave safety net, with justly provided employment with no disparity in wages, with universal government provided health care, with as close to a socialist utopia as possible.

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Scary scenario for Freedom and Liberty.

Redsoxticket
12-18-2014, 11:00 PM
I like watching the old cars in the back ground when the reporters are broadcasting.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

spence
12-19-2014, 08:36 AM
That's okay because Bush, or McCain, or Romney would have done the same thing.
Different. Clearly Obama is moving to make the USA more like Cuba.

Raven
12-19-2014, 08:48 AM
hollywood could have a Blast with all the old Cuba Automobiles

detbuch
12-19-2014, 10:10 AM
Different. Clearly Obama is moving to make the USA more like Cuba.

Same. Yes.

CTSurfrat
12-20-2014, 10:04 AM
I fear we are getting into bed with yet another country that will take our aid and money and then just stab us in the back when the time is right. They have already been caught red-handed trying to help our enemies!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26210187