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MakoMike
03-14-2015, 05:57 PM
WESTERLY — After push-back from constituents on a plan to repeal the recreational saltwater fishing license fee, 36th District state Rep. Blake Filippi (R-New Shoreham) hopes to forward a bill that would reduce the charge from $7 to $3.

Filippi said that only $3 of the fee is going toward administrative costs, and the extra $4 is matched three to one by federal funds that go toward maintaining and managing recreational fisheries across the state.

“That extra $4 amounts to a tax, and I believe that using our shoreline is a fundamental right we have,” Filippi said. “We have the right to fish on shore and the right to swim and walk at the beach, and I don’t believe those activities should be taxed.”

Filippi said he feels there is nothing in the state Constitution that gives the state the right to tax recreational fishermen.

“Article 1, Section 17 of our state Constitution protects the sacred right of people to fish freely from the shore,” he continued. “That’s the problem I see with all this.”

But Filippi heard a good deal of opposition from local fishermen regarding his draft of House Bill 5352.

“Ultimately, my goal is do away with the state license, but after getting feedback from my constituents, I decided to amend the legislation we first put together,” Filippi said. “I just don’t see anything in the Constitution that gives the state the authority to tax us in this manner, and instead of seeking declaration in federal court regarding the license fees, our state sought to comply with this demand.”

Filippi said he’s been opposed to the recreational saltwater fishing license for years, but now that he is part of the legislature, he can do something about it.

“I’ve been fishing from the shore all my life, and to be honest, I think this is a part of a larger problem, which is the fact that our citizens’ rights to the shorelines are being circumscribed,” he said. “I intend to be a strenuous advocate of shoreline access and people being able to enjoy our coast; I think it’s our fundamental right as Rhode Islanders.”

A local tackle shop owner sees the issue from a different perspective.

Mike Wade, owner and operator of Watch Hill Outfitters, said he believes most local fishermen are willing to pay the fee.

“I think if you asked most fishermen, they would say that it wouldn’t be bad if we raised the amount we pay for a license, because part of it is going towards DEM projects that as fishermen, we should be supporting,” Wade said. “These monies are extremely important and the fact that Filippi wants to eliminate everything the money that we as fisherman have to pay towards upkeep to our shoreline and the places we fish at seems wrong.”

According to Wade, the Rhode Island license fee is one of the lower recreational saltwater fishing license fees in the nation.

Additionally, the Rhode Island license affords reciprocity with Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts and Maine, said Wade, who noted that some people come to Rhode Island to get their license because other states don’t have a fund where a portion of the fee goes to help in maintaining fishing areas.

“Ultimately, it makes no sense to reduce cost and get rid of our funding because, and in my opinion, $7 is a nominal fee. And if the money is going into fishing, then taking it away would mean the money would go away from fishing,” Wade said.

John Lake, principal biologist in the Division of Fish and Wildlife’s Marine Fisheries Division at the Rhode Island Department of Environmental Management, said the recreational saltwater license fee program was set up through the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to collect information and statistics about recreational fishing throughout the nation. Lake said without the fee, the state would be forced to find the money required to pay the third-party database contractor to collect the recreational saltwater fishing registry information.

“Our program is the cheapest in the region, and all funds that aren’t allocated towards paying administrative costs go straight to a restricted receipt fund that is only spent on enforcement and management of recreational fisheries and fishing-access improvements such as boat ramps,” Lake said. “For every dollar we put towards recreational fishing improvement projects from our restricted receipt fund, the Wildlife & Sport Fish Restoration Program gives us three more dollars to use for those projects.”

The DEM issues recreational saltwater fishing licenses to around 42,000 people per year and creates an annual report that includes information detailing how the money was spent.

“The money is used to benefit local fishermen throughout the state,” Lake said. “Whether or not this could be considered a tax is a philosophical question for sure.”

iamskippy
03-14-2015, 09:27 PM
I am confused
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Thumper
03-14-2015, 10:32 PM
Between politics and facebook, striper fishing has turned into a day time soap opera.

Filippi honestly thinks we would rather buy a federal license than pay a $4 tax which is matched 3-1 for maintaining the fisheries across the state? Well Filippi, how are we going to get those additional federal funds? We certainly wont be getting any funds by purchasing the federal license, which is $25.

Raven
03-15-2015, 06:46 AM
i think he's exactly right when it comes to access rights
but exactly wrong when it comes to creating funds for the state
to improve fishing,boat ramps ....
for example take the duck stamp on a freshwater license
that ensures waterfowl are protected ...that program has always worked.

Nebe
03-15-2015, 07:12 AM
Classic example of having a heart in the right place and a head in the wrong place.
I100% agree that we shouldn't have a license, but at the same time, I look at what that money can do and happily pay in to the fund.
Wakefield just got a new herring ladder... Gansett got a new and improved boat ramp, so it actually see tang able results from the liscence money. I'm all for it.
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MakoMike
03-15-2015, 08:19 AM
Between politics and facebook, striper fishing has turned into a day time soap opera.

Filippi honestly thinks we would rather buy a federal license than pay a $4 tax which is matched 3-1 for maintaining the fisheries across the state? Well Filippi, how are we going to get those additional federal funds? We certainly wont be getting any funds by purchasing the federal license, which is $25.

Did you even bother to read the article?

Thumper
03-15-2015, 09:25 AM
Did you even bother to read the article?

Yes, I did. I was also at a meeting where he presented his case. My concern is, where are the federal matched funds going to come from when we are not charged the $4? So, we are going to pay $3 for a license, which covers people pushing paper work and tracking the number of fisherman. Like Nebe said, look at what that $4 fee has done for the state. Do you honestly think they will have a $3 license if they take away the $4 tax? I don't. Then we will be forced to buy a federal license or an out of state for another state. He said his ultimate goal is to do away with the state license, didnt he?

His first objective was to due away with the state license. After he got push back from everyone because we would be forced to buy the $25 federal license, he decides we should not pay the $4 tax. I agree we shouldn't be taxed. However, the money is getting matched 3-1 and we are seeing results. To pay the $4 is a no brainer when you are getting federal matched funds.

MakoMike
03-15-2015, 10:09 AM
My take is that its good idea. If all you guys want those federal funds so bad you can simply make a donation to the state fund when you buy your license. NY and NJ already have totally free "licenses." I use quotes because technically they are just registrations into the states database, but it amounts to the same thing.

There is a big difference IMHO between a tax and a donation. If you want the federal funds then donate to the state fund. But don't tax people who don't want to donate.

Roger
03-15-2015, 03:57 PM
This may come as a shock to some, but the $4 is not really $4 and there are no incremental matching funds for the $4 added fee.

Part or all of the $4 was allocated to paying for enforcement and administration according to the rationale for charging $4 more than the subcontractor expense per licensee. So there is less than $4 to spend on "matching programs"

But, the federal matching funds are already part of the RI budget and maxed out by normal spending.

For example, the total federal allocation for 2014 of the Dingell Johnson Sport Fish Restoration funds was the minimum 1% allocation of $3,257,403. 12 other states received the same amounts including Connecticut and Massachusetts.

This means that RI would only have had to spend $1,085,801 to qualify for these funds. I'm pretty sure that all the normal spending for hatcheries, stocking programs, biologists, education, ramp maintenance habitat and other programs and related personnel easily exceeds the total amount already so there is likely no more money incrementally available from the federal funds anyway.

Just sayin' :hidin:

I don't care about paying for a license because it's a cheap alternative within the realities. But lets not fool ourselves about how "great" the added $4 is for the resource. It really doesn't amount to much.

As an FYI, the federal registration fee is now $15, down from $25.

wdmso
03-16-2015, 06:59 AM
“We have the right to fish on shore and the right to swim and walk at the beach, and I don’t believe those activities should be taxed.”

I guess he hasn't gone to 2nd beach in a while is the 25 bucks a fee or a tax to get in the lot ?? to use the beach

Nebe
03-16-2015, 08:05 AM
Anyone can walk on to second beach. It's just parking you have to pay for. Narragansett beach on the other hand has access totally locked up in the summer and is completely unconstitutional.
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BULLOCKS
04-23-2015, 02:37 PM
Now that it is time for bills, if they are going to move through the process, to come out of committees let me say this. Thumper is Spot ON. Nebe is too about Gansett Beach Access. But free at night though!!!