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scottw
03-17-2015, 11:02 AM
RHODE ISLAND MARINE FISHERIES
REGULATIONS
Part XII
Striped Bass
March 17, 2015
R.I. Marine Fisheries Regulations
PART XII - STRIPED BASS
12.1 Recreational:
12.1.1 Minimum size: Twenty-eight inches (28") in total length, whether caught
within the jurisdiction of this State, or otherwise.
12.1.2 Season: There is no closed season for recreational striped bass.
12.1.3 Possession limit: One (1) fish per person per day, whether caught within the
jurisdiction of Rhode Island or otherwise.
(A) Possession limit compliance aboard vessels:
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

piemma
03-17-2015, 11:12 AM
So if I understand correctly, the number of licensed people on board will include the captain and mate if they have licenses.
Therefore a maximum of 8 fish per day per "6 pack" charter rather than 16.
I feel this is a win win for all. I'm happy with it.:jump:

iamskippy
03-17-2015, 11:14 AM
So RI did something smart 1 across the board? I am not good at reading fancy english.
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Nebe
03-17-2015, 11:15 AM
scott and i posted at the same time :)

this link makes it really simple to understand

http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatres/fishwild/anregs/031715sb.pdf

DZ
03-17-2015, 11:16 AM
Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

Nebe
03-17-2015, 11:19 AM
Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

I disagree.. one fish per fisherman is different wording than 'per person'. A charter boat with 6 paying clients can only keep 6 fish. Otherwise the wording would have said 'per person, in which case the boat could then keep one fish for captain and mate, who are not fishing.

Thumper
03-17-2015, 11:20 AM
Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

Maybe, but, it says per fisherman, I am not sure if they are counting captain and mate as fisherman.

Thumper
03-17-2015, 11:22 AM
I disagree.. one fish per fisherman is different wording than 'per person'. A charter boat with 6 paying clients can only keep 6 fish. Otherwise the wording would have said 'per person, in which case the boat could then keep one fish for captain and mate, who are not fishing.

Oops, Nebe beat me. This is also what I take away from the wording.

thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:23 AM
The captain and the mate are fishermen. It doesn't say per customer.
If your aunt Betty wants to come along to take pics, she gets a fish too. The boats licence covers everyone on board and the capt
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JohnR
03-17-2015, 11:24 AM
Well - the client would be out of compliance once in their car if they had more than one per person.

Nebe
03-17-2015, 11:26 AM
The captain and the mate are fishermen. It doesn't say per customer.
If your aunt Betty wants to come along to take pics, she gets a fish too. The boats licence covers everyone on board except the capt
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In all wording of RI fishing regulations limits are stated 'per person'

the only place that it is mentioned 'per fisherman' is charter regs.

Why would they use different wording?

thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:28 AM
Because on a private boat everyone need their own license. Hense"fisherman"
On a charter nobody needs a license
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PRBuzz
03-17-2015, 11:29 AM
Says "possession limit 1 per day": if Capt&mate give their fish to someone else, they can't already have one, right?
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thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:30 AM
I would guess that becomes a "once you're in your car" problem
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Nebe
03-17-2015, 11:31 AM
Because on a private boat everyone need their own license. Hense"fisherman"
On a charter nobody needs a license
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With that logic, there is a mistake with the wording then... I am sure this will be addressed in a formal announcement soon enough.

thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:34 AM
I see your point, but just because its a 2 person charter, doesn't mean it's a 2 fish limit
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thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:39 AM
Let me rephrase my earlier point, the boats charter license covers everyone on board AND the captain. Not except the captain.
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Nebe
03-17-2015, 11:44 AM
I see your point, but why not word the relations the same? Simply "1 fish per person"?
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thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 11:51 AM
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.


maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Thumper
03-17-2015, 12:00 PM
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.


maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Right. In other words if you are not fishing aboard your friends boat and your friends are, you are not required to have a license. But, if you decide to pick up a rod, catch and keep a fish, then you should have a license, you are not covered just because your friend who owns the boat has a license.

piemma
03-17-2015, 12:00 PM
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.


maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Excellent point Mike.

Headhunter
03-17-2015, 12:04 PM
Its a start now that it appears we are all fishing with the same rules. Lets up the anti and make the size limit 28 to 34 for 2 years.

Nebe
03-17-2015, 12:06 PM
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.


maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

You are totally correct.
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DZ
03-17-2015, 12:06 PM
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.


maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Wow - maybe this language is why RI took so long to come to a decision?

Nebe
03-17-2015, 12:10 PM
:rotfl:
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PaulS
03-17-2015, 01:02 PM
Good news. Congrats to all that wrote, called, emailed, cajoled and whined to the powers that be.

DZ
03-17-2015, 01:09 PM
Oops - Someone screwed up - apparantly the web posting on the DEM website preceded the official announcement by the director - it was taken down. Hold up the parade for a while.

MakoMike
03-17-2015, 01:18 PM
And the drama builds. :)

Nebe
03-17-2015, 01:24 PM
This is still up

http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatres/fishwild/anregs/031715sb.pdf
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DZ
03-17-2015, 01:29 PM
The web page caught a lot of "people in the know" by surprise. I think I'll wait for the email list serve that usually announces regulation changes.

PaulS
03-17-2015, 02:07 PM
The web page caught a lot of "people in the know" by surprise. I think I'll wait for the email list serve that usually announces regulation changes.

maybe posted by a rogue admin. asst.

MakoMike
03-17-2015, 02:32 PM
Its official, just got the letter from DEM (Coit) to all recreational anglers.

DZ
03-17-2015, 02:33 PM
Directors Decision PDF

buckman
03-17-2015, 02:50 PM
So are we back on suicide watch ?
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thefishingfreak
03-17-2015, 04:03 PM
So much for moving charter opps to Rhode Island :rotflmao:

Now what are we going to argue about ?! :hidin:

BatesBCheatin
03-17-2015, 04:03 PM
Directors Decision PDF

Nice job RI. :claps:

Linesider82
03-17-2015, 04:24 PM
So much for moving charter opps to Rhode Island :rotflmao:

Now what are we going to argue about ?! :hidin:

LMAO yah we need something right?
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ivanputski
03-17-2015, 05:07 PM
Fantastic news!
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MakoMike
03-17-2015, 05:48 PM
So much for moving charter opps to Rhode Island :rotflmao:

Now what are we going to argue about ?! :hidin:

How about black sea bass? :angel:

stripermaineiac
03-17-2015, 09:32 PM
LOL be the one to be stupid enough to get caught putting 2 fish in the cooler in your car or truck. LOL they say hitch hiking is also illegal in Rhody so you better have a bike.

Rob Rockcrawler
03-17-2015, 09:44 PM
I am glad they made the decision finally. I could only imagine the pages if they went any other way on this one.

Linesider82
03-17-2015, 09:53 PM
How about black sea bass? :angel:

Yah, CT went what 36% over harvest last season.... FCUK

Shhhhh... no one knows :eyes: no one