All...If I'm reading this correctly there is still an ever so slight chance to change the NJ bag limit.




RJ
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Posted from the Tavern to New Jersey and on to Long Island today NY has voted for 1 fis @ 28" including Charter and Head boats.

You need to send your comments on the importance of a single striped bass per day at 28' and up.


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LAST CHANCE TO STOP NJ's CONTINUED ABUSE OF THE CONSERVATION EQUIVALENCY OPTION FOR STRIPED BASS MANAGEMENT

Atlantic Striped Bass Technical Committee
Starts March 24, 2015 9:00 am
Ends March 24, 2015 5:30 pm
Location Hotel at Arundel Preserve, 7795 Arundel Mills Boulevard, Arundel, Maryland

Information:Email: mwaine@asmfc.org

If the whole world contacts this nice person via email and explains to them that they object GREATLY to NJ's conservation equivalency plan of 1 @ 28-43" PLUS 1 @ 43" - explain that the vast majority of NJ's bass are taken by boaters - fishing in/around schools of adult bunker - and the majority of the fish caught in those schools would be 36" and larger - making the 1 @ 28-43" PLUS 1@43"+ essentially the same thing as 2 fish/day/person/boat. Two large fish that are extremely important to the stocks as the older, larger females lay many times more eggs, much larger, healthier eggs, with a much better chance of survival and recruitment than smaller spawning stock.

It's honestly, as far as I know, that absolute last chance to force NJ to 1 @ 28", like the rest of the coast. Conservation equivalency is an exception that has continually been abused by NJ - it really needs to be removed from striped bass management.

Send your emails to this nice man and let him know that you disagree entirely with NJ's abuse of the conservation equivalency in striped bass management - explain the part above about how 1 @ 28-43" PLUS 1 @ 43"+ in NJ is essentially 2 @ large breeders/person/day/boat trip...and how it would very likely fail to reduce mortality of 25%.

And the best part?
You don't have to be from New Jersey AND you don't even have to get out of your computer chair.

Let the ASFMC know how you feel about NJ and it's twisting the conservation equivalency wording is not acceptable.

The majority of the 40" fish are caught by 6 pack Charters and large head boats of 25 to 50 anglers fishing a half mile or more off the NJ Beaches during the Spring and Fall Migrations every year.
They target the largest breeders and the NJ rule will allow them to take two over 40 inch prime breeders each day. The goal for the reduction is to save these fish and increase the production of healthy young of the Year striped bass. One fish is enough and any thing over a single fish harvested over 28 inches is due to politics and greed. The NY head boats have will not be butchering large striped bass this spring and fall and NJ needs to join the majority of it neighbors in protection a resource that us in trouble.


Kudo's to the NY State


Marine Fisheries and the Hudson River Fisheries personnel in their solid stand against allowing 2 Striped bass per day. They should be congratulated.

Get involved and send your opinion to the ASFMC employee at mwaine@asmfc.org. It could cause a reverse of the NJ greedy grab for the Charter and headboat Industry. NY also reduced the Commercial Harvest by 25% as well.Check out the LI Forum for more information.

RJ
















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Zero chance of it working. The NJ regs are set by the legislature, which has already voted for the new regs, all that needs to happen now is for the Governor to sign the bill. The tech committee has already approved the NJ regs at the winter meeting of the ASMFC.

The NJ Regs. are obviously not what must of us wanted, but I will say, generally speaking that there are many fisherman in our community (online community) that would not keep a fish over 43" anyway. In addition, most weekend warriors are not going to catch a 43" or over fish at noon on Saturday when they fish. The only area where this becomes problematic to me is with party boats and charter boats. Don't get me wrong, this is still a step in the right direction, and it saves many fish (in theory).

The NJ Regs. are obviously not what must of us wanted, but I will say, generally speaking that there are many fisherman in our community (online community) that would not keep a fish over 43" anyway. In addition, most weekend warriors are not going to catch a 43" or over fish at noon on Saturday when they fish. The only area where this becomes problematic to me is with party boats and charter boats. Don't get me wrong, this is still a step in the right direction, and it saves many fish (in theory).

You are way off about New Jersey. Most of the big bites start in the afternoon. There are miles of bunker here. When there are big bites the cell phones come out and hundreds of boats congregate on them snagging and dropping. fish under 42 are non existant down the ocean stretch and most weekend warriors are upgrading anyway. Ive seen all the big crowds up north on a weekends over the years and they pale in comparison to any weekday here,(Yes including Chatham during MA Commercial) Its a great frishery for the average guy because they can go fish after work and not have to wake up at 0300. People are lugging their boats up from PA, MD,NY, DE, VA, (Yes jet ski dave, and that crew from VA come to), and parking em all in slips or near ramp access. NJ is three fish, nobody sees a problem with the fishery here, you ask most and they say its getting better lol. All the large party boats even switch to bass all summer as oposed to their normal bottom fishing routine. 150 snagging hooks casting into a bunker school is a site to see. as you can imagine this results in alot of guthooked fish. As far as the surf, they get their big bites to, and its not a dawn thing at all as you may think. Used to be a summer fishery here back in the 1990's, TBH alot more fish holding over through out summer despite water temp, there were some good fish here all summer. Guess they arent bothered by water temp vs endless supply of bunker which stayed around well into december.

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You are way off about New Jersey. Most of the big bites start in the afternoon. There are miles of bunker here. When there are big bites the cell phones come out and hundreds of boats congregate on them snagging and dropping. fish under 42 are non existant down the ocean stretch and most weekend warriors are upgrading anyway. Ive seen all the big crowds up north on a weekends over the years and they pale in comparison to any weekday here,(Yes including Chatham during MA Commercial) Its a great frishery for the average guy because they can go fish after work and not have to wake up at 0300. People are lugging their boats up from PA, MD,NY, DE, VA, (Yes jet ski dave, and that crew from VA come to), and parking em all in slips or near ramp access. NJ is three fish, nobody sees a problem with the fishery here, you ask most and they say its getting better lol. All the large party boats even switch to bass all summer as oposed to their normal bottom fishing routine. 150 snagging hooks casting into a bunker school is a site to see. as you can imagine this results in alot of guthooked fish. As far as the surf, they get their big bites to, and its not a dawn thing at all as you may think. Used to be a summer fishery here back in the 1990's, TBH alot more fish holding over through out summer despite water temp, there were some good fish here all summer. Guess they arent bothered by water temp vs endless supply of bunker which stayed around well into december.

I too fish NJ, reasonably often. I think you just made my case.

The NJ Regs. are obviously not what must of us wanted, but I will say, generally speaking that there are many fisherman in our community (online community) that would not keep a fish over 43" anyway. In addition, most weekend warriors are not going to catch a 43" or over fish at noon on Saturday when they fish. The only area where this becomes problematic to me is with party boats and charter boats. Don't get me wrong, this is still a step in the right direction, and it saves many fish (in theory).

Agreed 100%. But that's my point. The party and charters are by far the major catch and that's were the 1@28 reg could make a big difference since most of those fish are breeders. I have for the past 7-8 years been out with a certain very accomplished charter captain. We almost always catch and I have never seen a fish under 34" that I can recall. I stopped going last year but that's my issue. I have nothing personal about for hire boats, just trying to do my part as I see it.

Looks like another case of certain collapse.
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NJ has a rep on ASMFC that has domnated the converstaoin/regs for that states for the last 20 (or so) years..... he AINT gonna change.

the goal should be to get that guy replaced, instead of trying to change the regs that he proposes for the state.... much easier in the long run