Time to learn from Europe and especially Germany that the immigrants
and refugees coming into these and our country have no plans to assimilate into their new country's ways but only want to disrupt their way of life.

Time to wake up, if it's not too late, stop all immigration from every country
so it is "fair", Pftt, review our quota system, after sending those with over stayed
visas back to their own country and protect our citizens. The random shooting in
Philadelphia and terrorist attacks we have had, starting with the original bombing
by the Shake of the twin Towers, should have been enough to take action.The rapes in Germany show just what we are dealing with. Enough is enough. Atrocious.

i'll row that boat ....
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you cannot guarantee religious freedom
to someone whose religion says kill all the infidels
meaning Christians or Americans

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton

President Trump will take care of it....he'll just cite Congressional inaction and start firing off Executive Orders, Spence is fine with this style of leadership :hihi:

Time to learn from Europe and especially Germany that the immigrants and refugees coming into these and our country have no plans to assimilate into their new country's ways but only want to disrupt their way of life.
Yep, that's what America was founded on :confused:

Think it's divisive now? Trump is going to tear this country apart.

Yep, that's what America was founded on :confused:

Think it's divisive now? Trump is going to tear this country apart.

You have the shortest memory I have ever seen .
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You have the shortest memory I have ever seen .
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No, it's quite good actually.

Yep, that's what America was founded on :confused:

Think it's divisive now? Trump is going to tear this country apart.

It was founded on opening up to people who buy into our cultural ideas. So far, our Muslims are assimilating fairly well here. But they do a godawful fob of assimilating in most places. We can't have that. Germany and Sweden are on their way to being unrecognizable. You OK if that happens here?

It was founded on opening up to people who buy into our cultural ideas. So far, our Muslims are assimilating fairly well here. But they do a godawful fob of assimilating in most places. We can't have that. Germany and Sweden are on their way to being unrecognizable. You OK if that happens here?
I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening here. Our immigration and refugee policy is much different than in Europe.

I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening here. Our immigration and refugee policy is much different than in Europe.

Nah could never happen here
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-try-pass-sharia-law-alabama-citizens-say-hell-watch/
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Nah could never happen here
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-try-pass-sharia-law-alabama-citizens-say-hell-watch/
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Did you read anything beyond the headline?

Yep, that's what America was founded on :confused:

Think it's divisive now? Trump is going to tear this country apart.

Founded on what, rape, murder Sharia Law and no assimilation by immigrants ? Spence you know better than that.

The way things are going with Obama, there will be nothing left for Trump
or anyone else to tear down or build up.
We have become a shell of a great country since he made his apology tour and Hillary hit the reset button and became all about bleeding heart, PC /BS.

Nah could never happen here
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-try-pass-sharia-law-alabama-citizens-say-hell-watch/
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Good for Alabama to be smart enough to become pro active rather than following
the Obama example of leading from behind.

Did you read anything beyond the headline?

When there are enough to swing the vote what happens then.
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It was founded on opening up to people who buy into our cultural ideas. So far, our Muslims are assimilating fairly well here. But they do a godawful fob of assimilating in most places. We can't have that. Germany and Sweden are on their way to being unrecognizable. You OK if that happens here?
Actually our country was founded by a bunch of migrants who crossed the Atlantic and mooched off of the people who had been here for a long time. They had zero interest into assimilating into their culture and systematically slaughtered as many as possible.

:wave:
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Actually our country was founded by a bunch of migrants who crossed the Atlantic and mooched off of the people who had been here for a long time. They had zero interest into assimilating into their culture and systematically slaughtered as many as possible.

:wave:
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That made me laugh....
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Makes you think a bit.. No?
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Makes you think a bit.. No?
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Could make you think were next . . . bing wiped out "by a bunch of migrants who crossed the Atlantic and mooched off of the people who had been here for a long time. They had zero interest into assimilating into [our] culture and systematically slaughtered as many [of us] as possible."

What's that quote....

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
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Actually our country was founded by a bunch of migrants who crossed the Atlantic and mooched off of the people who had been here for a long time. They had zero interest into assimilating into their culture and systematically slaughtered as many as possible.

:wave:
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leftists are fond of making this point as a counter argument to concerns over our immigration policy....

as with most leftist points, it's unclear as to what the point really is beyond some empty attempt to mock disagreement with their world view ...seems to be something along the lines....

" shut up, your ancestors did the same or worse so you have no right to complain or resist "

this is likely followed with condescending dismissal of the concern as even being legitimate despite ample evidence to the contrary.....as with gun control, socialized healthcare, speech restrictions, centralized governments, immigration policy....the American left looks longingly to Europe as a model and object of their desires ....

when someone points to Europe's examples of failure in these policies, the leftists assumes a dismissive stance and claims that their policies will not have similar results....the European left is ignoring the disaster created by their policies and labeling anyone who objects as intolerant, fascist, Nazis...etc....

there is a concerning dictatorial tone shared throughout the left that simultaneously mocks concerns over misuse and abuse of authority by elected officials and their surrogates while dismissing concerns over Constitutional issues as they push ahead with their agenda ....which is why gun and ammo sales will continue to set records...it's not because hunting has suddenly become really popular

What's that quote....

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
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Like Mcarthyism
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Like Mcarthyism
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liberal Tourette's...:wave:

an interesting read if you are feeling open minded today...

Decades after the death of Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, twice-elected United States Senator from Wisconsin, the term "McCarthyism" is still widely used as a convenient and easily understood epithet for all that is evil and despicable in the world of politics. Hardly a month passes without some reference to "McCarthyism" in the print or electronic media. Despite the frequency with which the term is invoked, however, it is quite clear that not one critic of McCarthy in a hundred has the slightest idea of what he said and did during that controversial period from 1950 to 1954.

Whether Joe McCarthy was right or wrong, it is important that we know the truth about him.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/15223-the-real-mccarthy-record

liberal Tourette's...:wave:

Yup. But you gotta understand . . . Nebe is probably still feeling the remnants of guilt for the mooching off of whatever by whomever that is allowing him to continue the mooching for his own benefit.

Down deep, he may believe that he should be giving his stuff back to whoever he thinks really owns it.

Maybe Bernie will fix all that.

And, seems that McCarthyism, whatever that is, was kind of learning from the lessons of history. No doubt, McCarthy knowing what his ancestors were supposed to have done to people who had been here for a long time, he probably wanted to avoid the same fate for his folks by actually beating a migrant ideology which threatened to mooch off of and take over whatever his folks who had been here a long time had created.

Maybe Bernie will fix that too. McCarthy wasn't able to polish off all the commies.

Why are Conservatives afraid of of everything thing and any one who is not like them!! That the Real threat to America

looks like the all those pesty Illegals are off the radar now that Muslims are the topic

Why are Conservatives afraid of of everything thing and any one who is not like them!! That the Real threat to America
looks like the all those pesty Illegals are off the radar now that Muslims are the topic

last I checked the republican candidates were pretty diverse and the democrat candidates were a bunch of old white men....

illegal immigration is not a threat?
there is no threat from muslim extremism?

it is the left in this country that is intent on hunting down disagreers

in terms of "McCarthyism" as it's used by leftists, they appear blind to their own desire and tendency to attempt to subvert, eradicate and/or punish any thought or speech which runs in opposition to their ever evolving and changing world view...

for the last 7 years we've had countless examples of leftist mob action and violence and property destruction with barely a shrug from the left

.....yet a few guys hold up in a shack in the wilderness and the left wants the shack bombed...

Pretty diverse is right. the spectrum of fear mongering and stupidity is broad.
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Why does the "left" keep trying to make us afraid of the "right"?

At least Scott admits that H is an old white man.
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looks like the all those pesty Illegals are off the radar now that Muslims are the topic
Don't worry, soon it will be back around to welfare recipients, then off to illegals again.

Don't worry, soon it will be back around to welfare recipients, then off to illegals again.

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condescending dismissal.....

illegal immigration is not a threat?
there is no threat from muslim extremism?

Not in the Context that the right sell's to American's

Immigration and Muslim extremism is nothing new to the world or the USA .. and will always be an active threat some place in the world.. When I was In Iraq these extremist Muslims have no issue killing other Muslims and still do today They are opportunist

So to keep things fishing related
Conservative world view is every Striped Bass is as a Fifty pounder because the scale is a democratic operative or works for the lame stream media .. truth and facts need not apply and the exception is always the rule :cheers2:

liberal Tourette's...:wave:

an interesting read if you are feeling open minded today...

Decades after the death of Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, twice-elected United States Senator from Wisconsin, the term "McCarthyism" is still widely used as a convenient and easily understood epithet for all that is evil and despicable in the world of politics. Hardly a month passes without some reference to "McCarthyism" in the print or electronic media. Despite the frequency with which the term is invoked, however, it is quite clear that not one critic of McCarthy in a hundred has the slightest idea of what he said and did during that controversial period from 1950 to 1954.

Whether Joe McCarthy was right or wrong, it is important that we know the truth about him.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/15223-the-real-mccarthy-record

Your hero ?
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The way things are going with Obama, there will be nothing left for Trump or anyone else to tear down or build up.
We have become a shell of a great country since he made his apology tour and Hillary hit the reset button and became all about bleeding heart, PC /BS.
I love it "a shell of a great country."

This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best. These Republican candidates running around in a fabricated malaise moaning about how awful and terrible everything is really look pretty foolish.

At least most have stopped blaming the gays.

I love it "a shell of a great country."

This is why the GOP will lose this election.

Fixed it for you.
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condescending dismissal.....
As an aside, I ran into a good read on this subject.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/what-republicans-dont-get-about-poverty-213511

Fixed it for you.
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Seriously, watching these Republicans on the stump I'm wondering if the entire show was scripted by Dante himself.

as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted :hihi:

as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted :hihi:
You've been saying that for some time.

as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted :hihi:

Fine by me. I can't stand her
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I love it "a shell of a great country."

.

Spence you should really awake from your nap now, 7and 1/2 years
is more than enuff sleep. :hihi:
Any way your waaay to young, and have no point of comparison, to have experienced what a Great America was. :(

Fine by me. I can't stand her
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yes, it would be great news for the Sanders brigade :spin:

[QUOTE=spence;1090720]I love it "a shell of a great country."

This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best. These Republican candidates running around in a fabricated malaise moaning about how awful and terrible everything is really look pretty foolish.

At least most have stopped blaming the gays.[/QUOTE

I take it you don't have a problem with Obama apologizing to the world about America then. In his eyes were not the best and need fundamental change.
You also apparently have no problem with him saying America is the only country that has mass shootings , which is a complete lie
. Seeing how you and Obama see America through the same eyes. You clearly don't think America is the best .

You're gay statement offends me
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only one candidate is about to be indicted :hihi:

Should be indicted.....she won't be.......but she should be.
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This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best.

More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves.

More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves.

I love it that you guys think Moochers who are on welfare and to lazy to find a Job actually take the time to find a poling station and Vote !!

Another made up bed time story The Right tells their followers

I love it that you guys think Moochers who are on welfare and to lazy to find a Job actually take the time to find a poling station and Vote !!

Another made up bed time story The Right tells their followers

They have the time and the incentive . Are you saying they are just too stupid to vote ?
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This thread has been the usual really fine display of (what Eben would say is) liberals' superior intellect, objectivity, creativity, and critical thinking:

"Think it's divisive now? Trump is going to tear this country apart."

"Actually our country was founded by a bunch of migrants who crossed the Atlantic and mooched off of the people who had been here for a long time. They had zero interest into assimilating into their culture and systematically slaughtered as many as possible."

"Makes you think a bit.. No?"

"Like Mcarthyism"

"Why are Conservatives afraid of of everything thing and any one who is not like them!! That the Real threat to America"

"Pretty diverse is right. the spectrum of fear mongering and stupidity is broad."

"Don't worry, soon it will be back around to welfare recipients, then off to illegals again."


"Conservative world view is every Striped Bass is as a Fifty pounder because the scale is a democratic operative or works for the lame stream media .. truth and facts need not apply and the exception is always the rule"

"Your hero ?"

"These Republican candidates running around in a fabricated malaise moaning about how awful and terrible everything is really look pretty foolish."

"At least most have stopped blaming the gays."

"Seriously, watching these Republicans on the stump I'm wondering if the entire show was scripted by Dante himself."

"You've been saying that for some time."

"Fine by me. I can't stand her"

"I love it that you guys think Moochers who are on welfare and to lazy to find a Job actually take the time to find a poling station and Vote !!"

"Another made up bed time story The Right tells their followers"


How can a narrow minded, stupid, conservative respond to that display of brilliance? I guess just be entertained !!!!!!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

Spence you should really awake from your nap now, 7and 1/2 years
is more than enuff sleep. :hihi:
Any way your waaay to young, and have no point of comparison, to have experienced what a Great America was. :(
Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh...

I take it you don't have a problem with Obama apologizing to the world about America then. In his eyes were not the best and need fundamental change.
You also apparently have no problem with him saying America is the only country that has mass shootings , which is a complete lie
. Seeing how you and Obama see America through the same eyes. You clearly don't think America is the best .

You're gay statement offends me
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Here's the thing, his outreach to the Muslim world didn't tell them anything they didn't already know. I think it was a bit of a surprise to many Americans though.

The mass shootings remark wasn't a lie. The context was that developed nations don't incur nearly what we do...and that's a fact.

More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves.
Who mooches more, those in poverty or the very wealthy?

How can a narrow minded, stupid, conservative respond to that display of brilliance? I guess just be entertained !!!!!!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Take a bunch of words out of context and laugh at it. Sounds like the business model for Fox News.

Should be indicted.....she won't be.......but she should be.
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For what?

Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh...

Why do we need to fundamentally transform what is great? Is it not great enough? Not even in some basic sense? FUDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM? I guess greatness is in the eyes of the beholder. Maybe Obama and justplugit agree about something.

Maybe Eben would say that "great" is a buzzword of fools.

The mass shootings remark wasn't a lie. The context was that developed nations don't incur nearly what we do...and that's a fact.

Depends on the context.

Who mooches more, those in poverty or the very wealthy?

There are exponentially many more moochers in poverty that the very wealthy. And the wealthy pay most of the taxes from which everybody mooches. Even the very wealthy have a means to actually generate income than those in poverty.

And so what?

Apples and oranges. Different context.

Take a bunch of words out of context and laugh at it. Sounds like the business model for Fox News.

Wow!! More deep #^&#^&#^&#^&. Can add it to the context.

Why do we need to fundamentally transform what is great? Is it not great enough? Not even in some basic sense? FUDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM? I guess greatness is in the eyes of the beholder. Maybe Obama and justplugit agree about something.

Maybe Eben would say that "great" is a buzzword of fools.
Clearly it's not great or it wouldn't need to be transformed.

I had no idea my Country sucked so bad. This is going to take some time to process...

There are exponentially many more moochers in poverty that the very wealthy. And the wealthy pay most of the taxes from which everybody mooches. Even the very wealthy have a means to actually generate income than those in poverty.

And so what?

Apples and oranges. Different context.
By headcount or notional value?

Hitler vowed to make Germany great again too. (Another catch phrase for you)
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Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh...

Lets start with what your definition, not Webster, of what you think greatness is.

Hitler vowed to make Germany great again too. (Another catch phrase for you)
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this is correct...in a socialist sort of way....

Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions”

I'm always correct Scott. Well.. Mostly. :hihi:
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They have the time and the incentive . Are you saying they are just too stupid to vote ?
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No they just dont care to Vote .. and yes they have time but as for Incentive you give them to much credit

Clearly it's not great or it wouldn't need to be transformed.

Tell that to Obama.

I had no idea my Country sucked so bad.

Your an extremist.

This is going to take some time to process...

I think you can do it . . . . . maybe . . . .

By headcount or notional value?

There are many variables. Do the search.

For what?

If I pulled the same stunt as her with the E-mail server, all of my correspondence would be through my lawyer right now.

Laziness and Convenience does not make for good security.....

...and I've grown tired of arguing what she did wrong with people that don't get it....or just don't want to...