Nebe, there were 15 polls for the Democratic primary in Michigan, and all 15 had Hilary ahead by double digits. And Bernie wins. That was an important lesson for me, the polls are not infallible, even when all of them say the same thing.

I cannot believe he upset her in Michigan. A good night for him. It may not last long, but he had a good night.

Yup. However, no surprise here. Just look back to the election days before Obama was elected the first time. Hillary won more states early on, went on to win Super Tuesday and then she crumbled as Obama gained momentum.
The thing Obama had on his side however was the black vote. It should be very interesting to see how this unfolds.
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idiot......

Yup. However, no surprise here. Just look back to the election days before Obama was elected the first time. Hillary won more states early on, went on to win Super Tuesday and then she crumbled as Obama gained momentum.
The thing Obama had on his side however was the black vote. It should be very interesting to see how this unfolds.
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Hillary still won the delegates in Michigan. I don't think it's going to be that interesting buddy
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We shall see
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idiot......

Total the total number of whites in this country. Total the total number of the minorities listed. Re do the math of the ratios of minoraties in this country in poverty and above...



Who's the idiot ?
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https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf

Not current data but you get the idea.
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Hillary still won the delegates in Michigan. I don't think it's going to be that interesting buddy
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She got just under 1/2. Sanders won but not by much. That it was a surprise could also just mean it was an outlier and not a sign of a trend.

She got just under 1/2. Sanders won but not by much. That it was a surprise could also just mean it was an outlier and not a sign of a trend.

Well said It was a shock. She got caught lying (shocker, I know) about Sanders voting against the car makers getting the bailout (she said he didn't care about them, when in fact he voted against it because he wanted to give them more), and that blew up in her face. I guess she just mis-remembered.

Total the total number of whites in this country. Total the total number of the minorities listed. Re do the math of the ratios of minoraties in this country in poverty and above...



Who's the idiot ?
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read or watch what he said...he's an idiot

Total the total number of whites in this country. Total the total number of the minorities listed. Re do the math of the ratios of minoraties in this country in poverty and above...



Who's the idiot ?


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We spend trillions to address this .
I would say anyone that votes to continue this failed "war on poverty " is an "idiot "
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read or watch what he said...he's an idiot
You can chalk it up to a poorly worded statement but to call him an idiot over it is pretty ignorant.

We spend trillions to address this .
I would say anyone that votes to continue this failed "war on poverty " is an "idiot "
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go to his website and read his agenda.
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go to his website and read his agenda.
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I did...it's pretty funny

You can chalk it up to a poorly worded statement but to call him an idiot over it is pretty ignorant.

no, he was pretty clear

Would you prefer we called him a Savant?
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Would you prefer we called him a Savant?
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Blacks, women and now you're throwing autistic kids under the bus...Man have you no shame?

I'm Irish......we don't do PC....
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Total the total number of whites in this country. Total the total number of the minorities listed. Re do the math of the ratios of minoraties in this country in poverty and above...



Who's the idiot ?
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That would still be Bernie
Re read what he said
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What an idiot :rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/6XXEHZsAkR0
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I think the Bern just got extinguished......:bc:....sorry Bern Outs....maybe next time for the democratic socialism thing....

Agreed. I don't think it's possible for him to recover from yesterday. He will make a good Vice President though.
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Agreed. He will make a good Vice President though.
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of Cuba?....Venezuela needs one too!

Agreed. I don't think it's possible for him to recover from yesterday. He will make a good Vice President though.
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Don't think so. As VP he may not rally the younger voters like he has in the primary and he'd pull Clinton to the left which wouldn't help in the general election.

of Cuba?....Venezuela needs one too!

Or North Korea...or governor of CT.

Don't think so. As VP he may not rally the younger voters like he has in the primary and he'd pull Clinton to the left which wouldn't help in the general election.

He doesn't help her electorally at all. She's not going to put a socialist on her ticket. Do you have any guesses? Maybe a popular, liberal governor?

He doesn't help her electorally at all. She's not going to put a socialist on her ticket. Do you have any guesses? Maybe a popular, liberal governor?

Sherrod Brown is my current guess.

Correct me if I a wrong but wasn't barrack further behind than Bernie is now back in 2008?
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Correct me if I a wrong but wasn't barrack further behind than Bernie is now back in 2008?
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I think you are, in fact, wrong. Pretty sure he dominated Super Tuesday, then she staged something of comeback between then and the convention, but fell short.

Agreed. I don't think it's possible for him to recover from yesterday. He will make a good Vice President though.
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I know the Democratic Party is colorblind 😂 But let's face it he is too white and probably is the wrong gender. I'm afraid the party of rainbows and unicorns is over .
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He doesn't help her electorally at all. She's not going to put a socialist on her ticket. Do you have any guesses? Maybe a popular, liberal governor?

Throw us a curve ball Hillary, select whoever comes in second in the GOP primary as your VP.

Who do you vote for?

Trump & his sock puppet vs. Hillary/Cruz or Hillary/Kasich

Would definitely make things interesting.

I'm still sticking to my guns that everyone is going to be feeling the bern next year. Wait until California, Oregon and Washington vote. Swing state in my opinion is NY.. I bet that state has had enough of her chit and it will go to Bernie. This is far from over.
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I'm still sticking to my guns that everyone is going to be feeling the bern next year.
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https://youtu.be/kdspJqbXI-A


cranky old bastard

theres a lot to be cranky about.
In other news the Bernie campaign raised DOUBLE the money last month as Hillary did and at a rally in Washington, 35 THOUSAND people attended. But you won't hear it on the news.
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:wave:

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Polling-Expert-Says-Bernie-to-Win-All-Upcoming-8-States-20160322-0005.html
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Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.
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Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.
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Eben, you know what to do if the erection lasts more than 4 hours :call:



The Latest: Clinton Delegate Lead Strong Despite Losses

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON — Mar 26, 2016, 8:00 PM

The Latest on the Democratic presidential nominating contests Saturday in Alaska, Hawaii and Washington state (all times local):

7:45 p.m.

Bernie Sanders clearly had a good day, winning big in Washington state and Alaska. But that's not impacting Hillary Clinton's overall lead in the Democratic presidential race much due to a smaller pool of delegates at stake Saturday.

Wait till California votes. ;)
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Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.
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Expected. Aside from Washington AK and HI Don't really mean much,
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March 15. The date Clinton lost her momentum.
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March 15. The date Clinton lost her momentum.
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Clinton never had momentum, just consistent backing. That's the difference, she doesn't have to create a groundswell, if she can just keep her support she's good to go.

Rich old ladies.
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Clinton never had momentum, just consistent backing. That's the difference, she doesn't have to create a groundswell, if she can just keep her support she's good to go.

And let's face it .. She could murder someone and her support won't waiver 😁
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http://www.npr.org/2016/03/27/472056754/despite-the-math-bernie-sanders-has-already-won?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160327
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I wonder what that count would like without those super delegates?
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I wonder what that count would like without those super delegates?
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That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.
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That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.
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It's not irrelevant to Bernie.....

Clinton has a 239 delegate lead without them.....or a 679 delegate lead with them.

We will see how relevant they are when the dust settles....
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Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?
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Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?
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They hurt us all
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That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.
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"That's (the superdelegates) really irrelevant "

Right. It's irrelevent that she started the primaries with 40% of the total delegates, already in her pocket.

"if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications."

If Trump comes into the convention with less than 50% of the total delegates supporting him, then he didn't win anything in my opinion. I have always said that if you don't get 50% o fth etotal, the fair thing is to have a runoff.

On your side, IF Bernie went to the convention with more than 50% of the total pledged delegatres, but Clinton won thatnls to the superdelegates, that would be immoral to me. It's not going to happen. Which is too bad, I was hoping to see the reaction.

On my side, there may be some things I need to reconcile, you are correct. And that's the difference between us. I can admit it when my side is hitting below the belt. You can't, no matter how obvious it is, you will always deny and/or ooze moral relativism.

Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?
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No. Obama won the pledged delegates. Clinton was making noise about trying to see if she could reverse that by pressuring superdelegates to go for her, but it didn't work.

Right. It's irrelevent that she started the primaries with 40% of the total delegates, already in her pocket.
Super delegates only make up 20% of the Dem total.

Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement. If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party.

Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement.

Hey you're a relativist. For you, talking about morality is like talking about chicken soup. If you like it, it's good. If you hate it, it's bad. And if you add some salt, it's an improvement.

If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party.

Wow, three progressive propaganda words in one sentence--obstruct, radical, and hijacked.

What's so "radical" about Trump? He hasn't lived his life much differently than many rich folks and celebrities. And he's been pretty much a "centrist" in the way he's run his businesses.

And he hasn't "hijacked" the Republican Party any more than did what you call Neo-Cons, and what others call RINOs. Nor any more than Progressives have "hijacked" the Democrat Party.

Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement. If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party.

"Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement...obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party"

DING DING DING!! Because to liberal elitists (like you), the people you claim to care about, cannot be trusted to decide who to nominate.

So tell us Spence, who exactly are the registered Democrats whose primary vote doesn't matter to you, unless you happen to approve? Blacks? Mexicans? Stay-at-home moms? The poor? Everyone who didn't go to college?

Boy did you tee THAT ONE up for anyone who understands what "democracy" means.

This from Spence, a person who I'm sure claims to care about Democracy, who said that if teh majority votes in a way he doesn't likje, then "it's an improvement" if instead, we make deals behind the scenes, to get the outcome that serves the power brokers rather than the outcome that reflects the will of the people you claim to care about.

Holy, holy, sh*t. How can you possibly not see the fascism in that?

If Trump gets 50.0001% of the delegates, he's the nominee, that's the way it works on my side, whether I happen to like it or not. That's called democracy. Yeesh...

Wow, three progressive propaganda words in one sentence--obstruct, radical, and hijacked.

What's so "radical" about Trump? He hasn't lived his life much differently than many rich folks and celebrities. And he's been pretty much a "centrist" in the way he's run his businesses.



I know right?....Trump is a Republidem who draws his support from the middle....Conservatives don't like him, the Republican establishment doesn't like him....whacko leftists don't like him.....the Main Stream Media doesn't like him....folks who are in the country illegally don't like him....folk who encourage folks to come here illegally and stay here illegally don't like him.....the "middle"...including a lot of democrats really like him....he's exactly the candidate many on the left have been demanding from the Republicans for years, someone who was more centrist maybe even pro abortion who was not rehearsed and owned by the establishment and who offered lots of "red meat" in debates and on the campaign trail for the main Stream Media and Democrat operatives to chew on....he's thriving in the cultural and political sewer that the left has helped create for us and often celebrates.....yet, they act like they are appalled:lossinit:, dismayed:mad: and scream:wall: for something entirely different like spoiled little children:crying:....they'll never be happy :huh: