Facebook is quickly killing this site.....

Seemed to be a consensus during conversation on Cuttyhunk this past weekend. The site has been dead most of this year IMO. I am not gonna be on FB. If you enjoy this site, bring your participation back to where this all began. Or don't complain when this site fades away......

Facebook is killing most sites/ I have debated in allowing login from FB to here but whereas this site revolves around fishing, FB revolves around everything. Unsure what to do.

I would say FB has little to do with SB.com I am on FB but I dont do anything fishing related on it .. I come here for that .. What I do see is not many people post about their fishing and put up Photos even less .. It is like no one is fishing.. I understand for many different reason
people don't like to post.. and its Summer everyones lives are a bit busy then in the winter

Don't know John, this site seems to revolve around everything if you ask me! Especially politics! At least we have had some good fishing discussion lately though.

Part of the appeal of FB is that a lot of people are on it and the mobile app is pretty easy to use to post things instantaneously. I am a member of a bunch of fishing groups on FB, but honestly most of the posting is not done to these groups, its just done by an individual who makes it a public, shareable post and who friends anybody who is remotely fishing related.

At least Larry doesn't post here constantly anymore. Now if we could get rid of dangles we'd be getting somewhere
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I hear you!!!!:eyes:

I hope you are wrong Ross but I see the trend too. It would suck if it goes away. Have many great friendships because of this site but people, including I, have so many different directions, options, to go nowadays as far as on line stuff that it is hard to hit them all in one day. I will be here till the end though, I enjoy it here.
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We enjoy you Professor!

seriously for the new people starting out they likely don't even think to look in places like this anymore, I know when i started this was one the first places I found! Think about the collective knowledge found in the archives of this site... be a crying shame if nobody called on it anymore.

Unfortunately we have allowed ourselves to be drawn into the "me, me, me" and "I need instant gratification, like yesterday" age.

Way too many people don't have the patience to actually LEARN to fish, they just expect someone to show they when, where and how at the click of an app, and because they haven't done the work they feel no remorse when they spot burn to the rest of the useless generation of lurking online poachers.

Sure I'm cynical, wouldn't you if you found your favorite spots either cleaned out, closed off or inaccessible because of the actions of these internet zeros?

almost 16 years for me & the whole world has changed big time ................ ut this site for me came at a time I really needed the laughs & friendship on found here .
times change & the internet & cells & all teck stuff has really changed things .
I have had some awesome times with people on this site .

IMO what helped us bond so well in the early part was the 4 legs & then the TCTFN [ there were some wild times at all ................ they all help people meet people & form ed friendships & many because fishing partners til this day ><..
In the beginning there were 20 -30+ people at the legs /once we lost the legs at weeki & moved to don.s in conn. that one died as more members were coming from the Boston area or North .throw in a few that had kids & things really changed . M&D,s was the last of the legds & when that went & HOOTERS to some of us that cut the personal contract for many .........................personally I would go to the legs to B/s & have some fun & when the guys & gals went fishing I headed home .cape Sam did the same thing @ the ones @ Mikes .

Oh the forbidden forum was another plus .I think it keep Zak . on a 24 hour watch ><><>

But no matter how long or what I,ll never forget the bonded & laughts that were formed @ the Cutty trips especially [for me] the two I went to @ Greg,s house ....awesome memories & people ><><

I come here everyday and see what's going on I don't post much because I don't have alot to share But I really enjoy the site and have also made a great deal of good friends from here

JohnR, I don't think you need to link FB to here....

Larry, I would like to see you around here more....

Clammer, those two trip were the very reason why I have continued the Cuttyhunk trips over the last 12 or more years. I would like to see a Leg at M&Ds again.... esp if we could draw out Capesams and Karl....

I would love to see the Political forum moved, to FB or another site. There have been weeks where that has 75% of the attention in here... Scuppers and Grumpy should suffice.

Time for members to put up or shut up. Contribute. If you are not part of the solution to ongoing viability, then you are part of the problem. Now is when a conscious decision should be made about your choice of a fishing community to participate in online and in season.

You don't realize what you have until it is gone.

Yeah, I came to the site just before Christmas in 2000. Something got screwed up with my user and I got it fixed in April of 2001.

I knew NOBODY in the Boston area to fish with. I had to drag my brother out to Nahant in 1997. I used to fish there by myself. I knew that I needed some friends that could help me find more spots.

My first real friend was the Specialist. He, chrisL, and I went fishing at a couple spots at the Cape in 2001. It was fun. Except for chris. He blew his transmission.

Then I figured that I needed to meet more people, cause Billy Mitz and Chris Lane were cool as hell. I got togeher with Don and Greg and had the first TFCTFN. It was also cool as hell. I got very hammered for many years thanks to Portugese moonshine. I will not name names, but will say it was always delivered in a Sierra Mist bottle.

So, Facebook is a place to go say hello, or get in touch with somebody, or spot burn, or whatever. It's quick and gets the job done.

This site, for me at least, is more of a family. I try to post respectfully and have gotten lots of help learning how to catch the big ones. Not getting hammered before going out was a real plus. This site helped me with that rule, as well.

Anyway, just my two cents. And where the hell are Fishpoopoo and bassmaster. They made the site pretty lively. Almost as much as Clammer's pants dropping, but in a better, less naked way.

OK. That's me.
Love,
Rick

JohnR, I don't think you need to link FB to here....

Larry, I would like to see you around here more....

Clammer, those two trip were the very reason why I have continued the Cuttyhunk trips over the last 12 or more years. I would like to see a Leg at M&Ds again.... esp if we could draw out Capesams and Karl....

I would love to see the Political forum moved, to FB or another site. There have been weeks where that has 75% of the attention in here... Scuppers and Grumpy should suffice.

Time for members to put up or shut up. Contribute. If you are not part of the solution to ongoing viability, then you are part of the problem. Now is when a conscious decision should be made about your choice of a fishing community to participate in online and in season.

You don't realize what you have until it is gone.

I am here.....post every few days! Try to get yak people fishing together......zero participation. Post fish pics and someone loses their shiite because its a spot burn or they question the size of the fish or they bitch because you kept it to eat instead of releasing it........on FB.......get out of line on my page and I kiss your ass goodbye! :kewl:

I'm on Facebook and in the last year I am so sickened by the bashing of politicians, religions, and anything else people feel they need to spout off about. I have found that people now think it's there own soap box to get on and rant about everything and make there opinion know which in my case I don't GAF about what you think. I don't use it for fishing either so I'm pretty much all done there.

As many have said....you can't put a price on S-B! Made many great friends, learned a crap load not to mention how to build lures! I love it here.....its like an old broken in pair of Levis!!!:happy:

Could do with less Niko though.....his feet smell!:)

I'm on Facebook and in the last year I am so sickened by the bashing of politicians, religions, and anything else people feel they need to spout off about. I have found that people now think it's there own soap box to get on and rant about everything and make there opinion know which in my case I don't GAF about what you think. I don't use it for fishing either so I'm pretty much all done there.

We use it for hockey though?:hihi:

I am here.....post every few days! Try to get yak people fishing together......zero participation.Yeah, I don't get that... You have tried though. Post fish pics and someone loses their shiite because its a spot burn or they question the size of the fish or they bitch because you kept it to eat instead of releasing it........on FB.......get out of line on my page and I kiss your ass goodbye! :kewl:

See, this is exactly why we need to keep this site together, to teach what is OK.... Lord knows we are losing the old timers that set us straight, it seems all too fast. We also need to bring in new members, especially the next generation of young'uns to pass down as was done for us. (which meant not giving it all away, but spreading the wealth and knowledge as our mentors saw us putting in the time and earning it.

Larry, I figured you would enjoy whatever that thingy is called below my screen name.... We are becoming the old guys.....

We use it for hockey, aye?:hihi:

Fixed it for you

See, this is exactly why we need to keep this site together, to teach what is OK.... Lord knows we are losing the old timers that set us straight, it seems all too fast. We also need to bring in new members, especially the next generation of young'uns to pass down as was done for us. (which meant not giving it all away, but spreading the wealth and knowledge as our mentors saw us putting in the time and earning it.

Larry, I figured you would enjoy whatever that thingy is called brlow my screen name.... We are becoming the old guys.....

Amen
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Screw facebook...

SB.com seems like the last oasis of decent fishing-related discussion available
on the internet. the "other" site is a s@$t show and always has been...

i hope people stay active here. I have often had idea for starting new threads for discussions, but always talk myself out of it... i really should just start one the next time i have an idea that i feel will resonate.

We use it for hockey though?:hihi:

So very true Larry, I still can't believe the Penguins won, I still have a sick feeling

We need more pictures and stories about excellent fish adventures. Who cares if someone kept one for the table. Stop bashing! The new limits along with more people practicing catch and release will bring the biobass back. I for one don't like to post fish pics anymore because someone will say I'm holding wrong or something.:lurk:

I love the site,all forums. I think what stops me from posting pics is the fact I am not too bright and have difficulty making it happen. The fb pic posting method makes a dummy seem like a geek.
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Fixed it for you

:hihi:

Not for nothing but this site sees more post and replies in the political forum than anything fishing related & been that way for a few years.
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Okay.
I was in the middle of a two week fishing vacation on the cape.
I went back to work after a week, fishing from shore sucked ass.
I'll save the rest for September, it's a dice roll now, who knows anymore.
I am one of the old guys and have met some great people through this site. Keep it going John.
FB is good for posting pictures of your breakfast or a nice sunset or two.
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Our Connecticut Surfcasters thread on SB under the club area is active but getting a little slow.

Then one guy put up a post. He said that he was embarrassed to say he could not catch a bass on a loaded redfin and that what could he be doing wrong. So he got 20 replies . that started a whole bunch of threads DYFI "Do You Fish it"- everything from do you fish red headed plugs to mag darters to skin plugs to Mambo minnows to Afterhour needles- to jointed plus that woke up the whole thread because guys admitted that some plugs just did not work for them. Some very helpful responses

on the main thread a guy asked about Hab's needles a few weeks ago and guys posted lots of responses. Seems no one is making for fishing advice anymore

You should try some DYFI threads.

I am "new" still and I like this site over the rest. I know I may get fewer answers here but the few I get are better than sifting through 100 different Facebook answers which are mostly hearsay.

I am on this site because the CSA uses it for the clubs forum discussion, but I do check the main forum, the plug building forum, and the search function adds a ton of value to my experience here and in the suds.

Bass masters thread on fishing a needlefish or this thread on darters are awesome http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?p=1088838
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Well, I'm still here and I hate FB. I go there only for family stuff. I have not posted fishing pics there and will not name places, times, tides etc.
Now as for SB.com, we have to keep it going but I understand the problem with competition with FB.

I think the biggest problem the Boss faces is attracting new blood. The new guys and gals use FB because they have FB. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen 10 new names on SB.com in a year. It's all us old bastards.

Not for nothing but this site sees more post and replies in the political forum than anything fishing related & been that way for a few years.
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agreed.. I am guilty of hitting the political forum and need to step away its quicksand.. But its not my primary reason for using the site ..

I like the chance to PM guys with current Intel or get some intel on whats & where the action is ..seeing most of us are not on the water 7 days a week its a great resource to economize and make that 1 trip of the week if thats all you can do a success :claps: rather than :fury:

If you are fishing then your day is already successful.
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Don't have FB, won't join FB. Keep it. When I want to talk fishing I want to talk to anglers, not clueless folks I'm hoping to impress.
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If you want more pics etc: up the limit size on pics and allow videos direct....mine all go to FB or YouTube. I don't really give a rats ass about someone's "bad" comments on a kept legal fish, I like eating fish of all kinds, and yes even stripers once in a while. My total striper catch this year = 1 !

I think the striped bass decline that happened around 2006 purged a lot of people from fishing frequently in the surf at least and that is one reason why the site isn't like it usta was.. But I still love this place!
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I've never joined FB because it just seems too time consuming, but I've been here for 14 years. I don't post much and mostly not fishing related, because I don't feel I'm of the caliber of many here; like Yogi Berra said, "What can I say that hasn't already been said before," and I'm not going to post just to hear the sound of my own e-voice But I'm here most every day, probably giving the impression of being a lurker, but in reality a learner, because of the wealth and variety of intelligent posts on many subjects, both fishing and non-fishing. I've been to a few TFCTF's and wish I could have been at them all (and with a little more confidence in my abilities joined a "leg" or three). And I've met a number of folks face to face, but also interact with many I only know online, all great people, full of sage advice, caring and often humor. And it's all monitored so things don't get out of hand. What wouldn't one like about this site? When I see a "Keeping The Lights On" post I contribute in some manner (John, hope my last donation made it to the Linesider PO box or I'll send another). I'm proud to have the decal on my truck and I only wear my S-B hat (anyone still have them?) on special occasions.
Well, another reason I hesitate to post is I can ramble on a bit and lose focus (duhhhh!), but my point is I don't need or want something else. S-B.com is just the thing for me, the only thing for me. I'd be quite lost without this site, but it still wouldn't make me join FB or any other social media or fishing site.

I think the striped bass decline that happened around 2006 purged a lot of people from fishing frequently in the surf at least and that is one reason why the site isn't like it usta was.. But I still love this place!
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I think that's a valid point. You see a fraction of the people out there now compared to 10 years ago.

I also think information is so readily available on FB that a lot of these new age fisherman see no point in coming here. All they need is a real time pic and off they go. Drives me insane - no one reads, logs, skunks,etc because they can find where the fish are without actually putting in any work.

I'm one of the younger members on here, but I respect the people on here and I will always be appreciative of the friendships I've made because of this site. I've also learned more from this site than probably anywhere else. I will always come to this site, because like someone stated earlier, real fishing conversations take place here. I also think that this site has the greatest concentration of highly skilled anglers anywhere. Again, I'll always be here...

No Cutty, Plugfest or Too Cold on FB. Would be nice to have a few legs again. Started some conversations about the Block leg coming back from Cutty.

Maybe I will start a new thread for leg suggestions and potential participation and see where that goes. Might be a little late for a Spring leg unless we do the North shore.

Wonder how much traffic is on the club pages v the main pages?

No face book for me.. I don't know much about it nor do I care to know... my issue is time management... the older I get the more precious it becomes........If I didn't surf the web on my breaks and while waiting for phone calls... I'd never go "on line" ...I enjoy my time on SB because most here share a common thing.. the love for striped bass.. this is one of the few places those people come together.... all my life I've enjoyed learning from the "elders' about fishing and life in general..SB.com can and is such a learning place for future generations.. at 61.. I've reached or am approaching that stage myself... the "teachers " of our youth are slowly fading away...leaving us older folks to carry on.. today will be the good old days for our children...tomorrow will leave our grandchildren wondering what happened to the "good old days" their parents enjoyed...only the rocks live forever...

I think the striped bass decline that happened around 2006 purged a lot of people from fishing frequently in the surf at least and that is one reason why the site isn't like it usta was.. But I still love this place!
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and it seems that fishing has changed...instant gratification mob mentality...electronics...swarm...swarm...swarm... .no time for discussion of tackle and tactics gotta drive forever to get to the hottest bite and fish elbow to elbow or bow to stern crushing fish....go pro's and hero shots.....team fishing....to each his/her own....I'd rather fish alone for hours with no fish than suffer any amount of time elbow to elbow in a crowd catching big fish with all the antics...but again...it's all in what you want out of it....the problem with fishing discussions is you can only discuss how to load a redfin of fish a metal lip so many times...most has been done or discussed over and over...no one wants to post current stuff for fear that their sacred spot will be trampled....i love and find fascinating the plug building stuff but who has time for that anymore...there's plastic !...lot's of plastic...life has become plastic

True! Very true!
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So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

I with you Rick and you know you can count on me to totally help.

Another Idea: Why not an SB.com Striper, Fluke and Bluefish Tournament all Catch and Release. I am in the Pabts Blue Ribbon Tourney and it's all C&R. Cash first prizes for each species and weekly results get posted on SB.com. I'm willing to bet we'd get a lot of new members.

I think a weekend Block Island Tourney in Early November would draw interest also. I know the fishing hasn't been the greatest on the Block in the Fall but I still do it all alone for 3 days as there is a mystique about the place in November.

Oh and NOTHING involving the Canal. Too many asshats as it's too easy to get to.

This is still my favorite site to read and learn and ask questions. Use msba facebook and falmouth fishermans facebook and stan gibbs facebook to keep finger on that pulse. Keep finger on family via regular facebook. I avoid posting anything political on any site, my personal rule as I am not changing anybody's mind.
I enjoy big fish's blog too. Lot's of options may keep pisting here down.
First love is still fishing. Was out from 11pm to 1 am today. Fish pre dawn and dawn almost daily. Being retired helps.. Seeing sunrise, seeing nature hearing birds is great. Last night skies cleared and stars came out and i was casting at the big dipper. Sweet. Fishing the best, catching fun but not necessary. But I do love to catch.
We all have lot's of options. I love having this one too. Keep up the good work John. Guys and gals keep posting. I know people bitch about spot burns on photos, but lets face it there are no unknown spots, but maybe unknown tides. Chill folks.
I am still catching bass on plugs my dad perfected with info from rhe plug forum and he passed 3 years ago.
Would still love to read threads about working favorite lures etc. Personally I am working on perfecting " the dying baitfish twitch".
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I consider myself a younger member on this forum. Ive learned a ton from this site over the years. There is definitley a lack of younger guys on here. also it seems over the last ten years alot of the die hard surf guys smartened up and bought boats!!:laugha:

Going back about 8 years or so there was a ton of surf talk. Gear, tactics, reports ect. I only surf fish a couple times a year now, since buying a boat. theres a big presence of the boat crowd on facebook. Back when there was a large surf crowd there was a sense of community about fishing for 2 nights straight while sleeping in your car while the tide turned, cause you know other guys were doing the same thing. I used to spend a ton of time hanging out at the local tackle shop as well. I rarely do that anymore either.

I think that's a valid point. You see a fraction of the people out there now compared to 10 years ago.


I think a lot congregate at the canal; there are certainly less guys fishing though. I was at my local lighthouse last week on a nice night at dusk and beyond. After the lone scupper left at dark I had the run of the point. In June. Not the first time that has happened this year. Go figure...

I do it all still. Sleep in my car probably 3-4 nights a week. Only way I can afford to do this while not living by the water. I hang in a lot of the tackle shops, too. Neil at QL has become a good bud over the years. I don't even think I do it for the fish anymore. Just always loved the lifestyle. I will never abandon the old school mentality. Fish hard, live long
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the people on this site continue to be some of the most helpful and most skilled anglers anywhere. I think its true we all need to make more of an effort to post and maybe even have some get togethers. I know my time is very tight now that I have two kids, when I started here I was all fishing all the time, so things change in that way, but I'm still here!

I think a weekend Block Island Tourney in Early November would draw interest also. I know the fishing hasn't been the greatest on the Block in the Fall but I still do it all alone for 3 days as there is a mystique about the place in November.

Oh and NOTHING involving the Canal. Too many asshats as it's too easy to get to.

I'd be in, at least for a night of that :spin:

and it seems that fishing has changed...instant gratification mob mentality...electronics...swarm...swarm...swarm... .no time for discussion of tackle and tactics gotta drive forever to get to the hottest bite and fish elbow to elbow or bow to stern crushing fish....go pro's and hero shots.....team fishing....to each his/her own....I'd rather fish alone for hours with no fish than suffer any amount of time elbow to elbow in a crowd catching big fish with all the antics...but again...it's all in what you want out of it....the problem with fishing discussions is you can only discuss how to load a redfin of fish a metal lip so many times...most has been done or discussed over and over...no one wants to post current stuff for fear that their sacred spot will be trampled....i love and find fascinating the plug building stuff but who has time for that anymore...there's plastic !...lot's of plastic...life has become plastic

I agree Scott....thats why I am enjoying the hell out of my kayak! Maybe go with a buddy or two.......fish fresh or salt no matter! We got fish......NO CELL PHONE CALLS......and its relaxing and peaceful! Very spiritually fulfilling!! I do GoPro pretty heavy and take photos but the video does not get used until the off season!

So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

I with you Rick and you know you can count on me to totally help.

Another Idea: Why not an SB.com Striper, Fluke and Bluefish Tournament all Catch and Release. I am in the Pabts Blue Ribbon Tourney and it's all C&R. Cash first prizes for each species and weekly results get posted on SB.com. I'm willing to bet we'd get a lot of new members.

This greenhorn is willing to help with that stuff iffin you want....

This greenhorn is willing to help with that stuff iffin you want....

Thanks Gup. We will need all the help we can get.

. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen 10 new names on SB.com in a year. It's all us old bastards.

I don't post often because I never get the time to wet a line anymore, but it's all of the old bastards that keeps this old bastard checking in every day! I don't have a FB account and have no desire.

I lurk on here regularly while in the office (usually check in a couple times a day), and occasionally from home, but rarely post. Mostly because I have really only met a couple of you...guessing that I am probably on the younger end of the age bracket than most of you (39), but I could be wrong

This is a great change of pace from the other site- a much more intimate setting with guys who seem to actually know each other- a genuine sense of camaraderie exists here that doesn't over there. And yet I feel more inclined to get involved in discussions and post over there for some reason...

I was tempted to make the plunge and commit to the Cutty trip- I think myself and the 5 guys I was with last year were just getting on the boat as you guys were getting off (Rob G. made the trip with us last year)...was tough to commit to it this year as historically speaking the June new moon timeframe is typically when some real quality fish show up in and around my home waters (I had my best surf night this past Saturday locally for both numbers and size)...We had an awful weather pattern when we went last year in early June and the guys who want to head back out there all thought it would be advantageous to shoot for at least one commando style trip somewhere in the August/September timeframe- hoping for more comfortable and favorable conditions (last year we got off the ferry on Cutty and had constant drizzle to driving rain and a steady 20+ mph NE wind the whole time)...Rob was the high rod on our trip as well!

I do not do facebook outside of a couple of public pages to check out charter captains reports or tackle shop reports of another $h!tsh0w at the canal.

Hopefully the S-B website remains viable for years to come- I certainly appreciate all of the contributions of the various members. So many years of surf knowledge resides here and to be able to apply some of that knowledge to my home waters is invaluable.

Putty

Im 22yo, dont have a FB... S-b is my facebook
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This place has always been a great place to learn. What John an the others do is the best. to loose it would be sad an I hope it doesn't happen. Instant anything is bad too much bitchin n moanin is bad an too much critisism of other peoples fish makes it hard for others to post out of fear of the fish morality police. You can't tell about where you fish or what you use for fear of the spot burn police. Bein low tech keeps me from puttin up pics an most have my plugs in them so that stops me as I don't feel comfortable advertisin with pics. But we do need to maybe be a little less criticle so new faces aren't scared away. Many of us here don't do facebook. Plus like Ross an a few others were sayin this has just plain been a bitch of a year for all of us. More fun n get togethers will make a load of difference as long as it all isn't left to John an a couple others. That's part of what killed the Tri-State tournament.

this is my first time here . seems like a nice place maybe i will sit back , put up my feet order a joint ( new law working ) and sit back and watch the festivities .


FB is a joke . lots of internet hero's and braggarts . smart phones too have killed fishing . don't forget them ! even though a majority have them . I'm a network engineer for a major university ( that's what they tell us to say ) and i still have a flip phone . Best part of meetings is when I place my pad , pen and flip phone on the conference table . The looks are the funniest ever . I laugh at them . Everyone else has their laptop , tablet or 2 and smart phone .

Oh well I find it funny .
ok back to just sitting and watching and having a good smoke .

Oh yeah i came here to say something ........... Hello

I have FB but wouldn't think of using it for fishing. Summer time I get real busy with work (tree service) and it's generally a 6am to 9pm thing which doesn't leave much time to visit and post this SB site but I make several stops each week. It's nice to know it's there when you have a little free time or need some opinions/advice. I have already met some new friends because of this forum and hope to make many more. To say my recent trip to Cuttyhunk with the group was enjoyable would be the understatement of the year. It is going to be regular annual event for me for sure....good lord willing and the creek don't rise ! This inaugural Cutty trip was a HUGE learning curve for me, by next year I'll blend right in.

Thanks to all for helping me out and making that trip special...especially Ross.

Regarding the SBC site "I ain't going anywhere"
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this is my first time here . seems like a nice place maybe i will sit back , put up my feet order a joint ( new law working ) and sit back and watch the festivities .


FB is a joke . lots of internet hero's and braggarts . smart phones too have killed fishing . don't forget them ! even though a majority have them . I'm a network engineer for a major university ( that's what they tell us to say ) and i still have a flip phone . Best part of meetings is when I place my pad , pen and flip phone on the conference table . The looks are the funniest ever . I laugh at them . Everyone else has their laptop , tablet or 2 and smart phone .

Oh well I find it funny .
ok back to just sitting and watching and having a good smoke .

Oh yeah i came here to say something ........... Hello

See, our conversation brought one of the true originals out of the woodwork. When I first started here, I used to find my landlord (of my restaurant) on my recent calls . I thought I was calling him in my sleep. I really did not like him. I pretty much like everybody, so that's a strong sentiment from me. I was about to confront him for messing with my phone and then realized that he and Chris share the same name. Yup, it was me calling chrisL. The restaurant turned me into a real vindictive bastard. Chris has always done his best to help minimize my vindictiveness. I'm still a bastard.
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I agree. Names I've never seen or maybe seen once have posted here. SO.....
You "lurkers" need to be more vocal so we know you are out there.

Think about this:

The more traffic John came verify, the more advertisers he can get to buy space on the site and thus, the better chance of the site surviving. The guy doesn't make any money here as it is.

OK, later, I'm goin' fishing. I'll see Clammer someplace.

ride long & far & you will the fish you seek :huh:

There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

Now I have to check to see if you defriended me .
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Thanks Gup. We will need all the help we can get.

Yup, the more the merrier. We can't forget Vic in the picture. My back is actually better than it's been in three years. By the time we have the TFCTFN, I should be back to being a gym rat again. I would enjoy the company in the kitchen, though.

Yup, the more the merrier. We can't forget Vic in the picture. My back is actually better than it's been in three years. By the time we have the TFCTFN, I should be back to being a gym rat again. I would enjoy the company in the kitchen, though.

Oh, I didn't Rick. Vic is our main "coordinator".:walk:

im in for a tourney. Let me know when and where.

This has always been my favorite fishing related site. There are a lot of knowledgeable guys here that I have learned a lot from over the years and continue to learn from.

The majority of the content on Facebook is a joke and it usually only takes a few minutes for what might be an interesting discussion to turn into some kind of drama.

I don't post much here or on Facebook. I'm more the kind of person to sit back and listen/read than to jump into a discussion. I do also think there is some truth to what others have said about people being fearful of posting pics or reports for fear of criticism about spot burning, why a fish wasn't released, or the alleged weight, or why it was out on a boga etc... I think that's a way bigger issue on FaceBook with all of the "experts" on there but it certainly has happened here at times.

I like idea of a tournament. They always seem to draw a lot of interest.
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The fishing legs were a big part of my interest in S.B, Lots of fishing related conversations going on.
Everyone would bring something to eat, Wait for Dusk then go fishing. That's what made the difference, Meeting you guys.............
Instead of just posting On-Line......

Leo

There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

That is pretty much my feelings also. The only other thing I would add is that it seems like if you don't personally know people here, you're not going to get welcomed in. I've been lucky that I know some of the folks here as I met them fishing or at events over the years.

wow DCF out of the woodwork & back from M/V ><>< I posted legs & #^&#^&#^&#^&in slip took them down .......that M.F er is one big ,big prude ><><>:patshelmet:

I'm here, really haven't been posting much but still here and still my favorite site.
Maybe a RI/MA get together or separate legs. .
Met many good guys through this site, the get togethers and at the water fishing.
Need a new S-B sicker, peeled off what was left of the other one a few days ago.

ITS PM me your name.address

I'm one of the old guys that comes here every day. Take your online Peyton Place, instant gratifying, social drama sites and stick em.:bs:

wow DCF out of the woodwork & back from M/V ><>< I posted legs & #^&#^&#^&#^&in slip took them down .......that M.F er is one big ,big prude ><><>:patshelmet:

that's me. big prude, no fun, watching JohnR's back

I didn't think that anybody used FB anymore. Certainly if you are under 30 FB is not the place to be. Instagram and SnapChat are where it is at.

As far as this site goes, people share very little about how their fishing has been. I understand why and I don't post much until the end of the season to limit activity where I fish. I don't know what the solution is but this site is one of the few where there is little BS and people are more than willing to help you if you ask, but you have to ask. Bringing back the legs is a good idea.

Im an instagram guy

I'm here every day. I don't post a whole lot but check the site first when i wake up, its been a tradition for about 10 years now. This site helped my learning curve a lot when i first got started. Tons of info especially on equipment and tactics.

I still check in almost every day but don't post a ton. This site was invaluable to me years ago when I was starting out. Leaned a ton and met some great people. There used to be a lot more discussion of fishing techniques, equipment, theory, etc. That seems to have dropped off a lot. I don't really think its a facebook thing, just that that stuff can only be discussed so much. And the whole spot burn thing. When the site was relatively new, there was more to discuss that hadn't already been beaten to death. Also, I think the fishing was generally better than and more people were fishing, especially in the surf, and not just the canal.

I check in almost every day, but don't post much. Life has just gotten too busy the last few years. I go on FB but not for fishing stuff, other than a couple private groups I'm in. When I first joined this site, I was strictly a boat guy and learned a ton about surfcasting here. I still suck at fishing, but at least I don't look as foolish as I used to. I met a bunch of great guys here that I'm happy to call my friends, and still try to get out and fish with as many people from here that I can. I like the idea of a site tourney or bringing back the legs, but it might be tough for me to make it. Most of my weekends are booked solid with family stuff or kids sports.
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FB/IG/SC are the issue.

Its not so much that they are replacing the fishing/SB talk, but they are monopolizing people's online time.

There are other factors, like the decline, but there is only so much time people have online, and they are spending much of that on the social media sites.

Same story here. Great library of information and advice when I was starting out, It also put me in contact with some great fisherman that taught me a ton, and continue to do so.

Besides the fact that other social media outlets are more popular and time consuming, the other main challenge for SB is the fact the video and picture upload limits are too small, and or don't auto size when you try to upload. I Can't tell you how many times I've been trying to post a picture and can't because of the size limit, and instead of going back and manually resizing it I just say forget it...

Same story here. Great library of information and advice when I was starting out, It also put me in contact with some great fisherman that taught me a ton, and continue to do so.

Besides the fact that other social media outlets are more popular and time consuming, the other main challenge for SB is the fact the video and picture upload limits are too small, and or don't auto size when you try to upload. I Can't tell you how many times I've been trying to post a picture and can't because of the size limit, and instead of going back and manually resizing it I just say forget it...

I agree with most of what has been said but remember, this is basically a not for profit site. Yeah, all the other neat features would be nice to have but they all cost time and money and John doesn't have tons of either.
Maybe there should be a nominal fee for being a member of this site. John could then afford to add all the niceties that everyone wants. I'd pay $10 a year to be a member.

chicken wings for the boss <<>

I am happy to see that this discussion has gotten some traction, with so many views and posts contributed in just a few days.
Some members have been drawn back in, some have become more willing to contribute, at least in this thread.
Regardless of the reason(s), there needs to be some accountability by all members..... Contribute more, continue to contribute. Encourage other fishermen to at least take a look at the site. Whether the moderators need to come up with posting guidelines with regards to the almighty spotburn, posting pics, or the "dead fish" commentary is a discussion the site membership should start thinking about. I personally think it is OK to take fish for the table. And that is backed by the law. We can all recognize the chest thumpers, which is a whole different thing compared to the excited PB post or newer fisherman who shares a new milestone.... This place used to police itself pretty well. Should be able to do so again without the mods having to become site Nazis.....
And lastly, the discussion that we have had in the past has steepened the learning curve of many, including myself. Sadly we have lost too many sage members who led us so well in many fishing subjects. The three who come to mind most are Flaptail, Habs, and Saltheart. Numbskull, Rockfish, ProfessorM are among the present members who I look forward to imparting their experience and reflection on those experiences.... Just because we have discussed something before doesn't mean we can't share the subject again. Without live active threads and discussion, this place would be nothing more than a closed library......

And I might add that the site has always had conservation in mind.... Hence no more team in the Striper Cup, as one conscious decision made by the membership. There is room here for the dinner fisherman, the C&R fisherman, AND the Commercial fisherman here....

Ross .is it yeppeeeeeeeee or yupie :lama:

what you called me? yuppie......
What you say at Hooters? Yippeeee......:bl:




Of course anyone with freshly laundered clothes is a yuppie in your eyes....

how many fisherman >>>bring a suitcase with 5 sets of clothes on a [fishing] trip to Cutty ??????????????????:fishin:

Take it easy on him Mike..............

He may not have caught any fish, but he looked DAMN good doing it!!!....:cool:






Hi Ross.....:wave:

maybe to you Gilly , But I didn,t get close to him .............anyone who to Cutty for 3 days & smells like a %^&*( at the end of it scares me :hang:

Even the @@@@@ woman he tried hitting on ,while on the ferry said to me WTF is with this Guy ><><>:wid::agree:

That's the woman he was calling "mommy"!!!...........so that's how that all started.....:scream:

To sum up my thoughts on S.B., and so youze guys don't think all I do is heckle or "tongue in cheek" ,,, << as I've been described as on many occasions<<.....
Butt - when you've been fishing a long time and/or have been on this site for a long time.....you seen and read almost everything. New guys like answering questions like they're old guys....old guys don't reply as much because they feel like their record is skipping...I don't fall into either category, I don't know chit, I don't pretend to know chit, and I don't try selling chit. I just like fishing.....Ask me what model my rod is...:huh:, ask me who made the plug I'm fishing....:huh:
I can't retain things like I used...and I ain't that old, I just been sippin' Raven's kool-aid too long.

Can we ALL continue learning? Sure...., but most become creatures of habit. Someone may try a different way to fish (a lure, a spot, etc)...but in the end, the old habit will prevail. After all, it's worked successfully on and off most of their lives. most don't try fixing what's not broken

Is S.B. what it used to be? Yeah, for the most part......are we who we used to be? No......some have been used and abused or know of others who have over the years, it got old so they stay quiet for the most part. Some guys like to talk about fishing, others actually GO fishing....The real good guys have found a way to stay numb to it all and just keep Elmer Fudging along...I still check in every other day or so....but honestly, it's more to read how everyone's doing (in general).
It was because of a post last week that I ended up spending almost an hour on the phone with Clammer. That's what makes it all worth it to me....trying to stay connected with the people I've met over the years. Leo said it best...."That's what made the difference, Meeting you guys".....I'm glad to have met the people I have on here (in person, not behind a keyboard)....yeah, I got burned once or twice, but the good times and laughter we've shared over the years were well worth it.
It's been pretty obvious that over the last 5 years or so, a new wave of S.B.ers have formed. They too have found a way to connect. The site is still working fine.......but as the tide changes, it sometimes pushed the old seaweed out to sea for awhile.
I don't personally mix FB or social media's with this site or fishing, but the Ffreak is right, they each have their own purpose...it's the idiots who use it as a personal billboard that sour everyone's thoughts on it.

I think a good thread to discuss would be something like.......would fishing have been better if the internet never existed?

One of these days I'll draw you another picture Bruce....:wave:

And I thought youse guys liked me..... But I have thick skin. Fire away!

I will gladly take the hit for my first trip's abundance of clothes, but it should be pointed out that Clammer would "pack" for these trips like a 12 year old... that is he didn't. Not a single thing. Plus he arrived already in need of a change of underwear, an would proceed to piss himself laughing.... True. I was two or three years divorced and sober. All my clothes were new because I had lost so much weight....

As for the milf... Not sure which one you are referring to, but there was one I did see for awhile after the trip. Bonnie knows.... Problem is there was some overlapping, if you know what I mean, so we will not discuss dates etc..... I smartened up. Made the right choice. But 15-16 years ago, I did not give a @#$%.
But..... neither of you have been on that trip in over ten years! Not a clue of what goes now. Hell, these days I pack closer to Clammer's way than what I brought that first trip.

All you original Cutty guys suck for not coming anymore.....:grins::grins:

Ross . I would if I could >>>>>>>>>>> go & actually enjoy more than the B/S at the club . But I can,t walk up the road never mind on bowling balls ,& my boat insurance has a exception clause .that reads>>>>>> void if at Cutty :shocked: