Thanks to the liberal azzholes, the black lives matter protests are occurring all over the country. Something appears to have happened in Dallas. I saw what was a peaceful protest, then something crazy happened, then I saw what looked a lot like 2 dead cops ly9ing in the street. More to come.

God forbid we can be #^&#^&#^&#^&ing honest about these things rather than liberals ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS claiming that meaningful numbers of white cops are going out hunting on the job.

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

Hillary is loving this #^&#^&#^&#^&
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Hillary is loving this #^&#^&#^&#^&
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No. This may come back to bite her. At some point, people are going to stand up to this evil liberal bullsh*t.

Now they are saying as many as 6 cops were shot.

Obama was on TV today, saying that the incidents of white cops shooting black detainees, are not isolated incidents. What evidence does he have of that? IS that a responsible thing to say?

Liberalism isn't just wrongheaded and stupid. It's evil, bordering on the satanic. John R, who isn't the right-winger that I am, correctly said recently that we are more divided than we have been at any time in decades. Obama says whites in middle America are bitter clingers. He says Republicans gotta stop just hating all the time. And now, he says white cops are part of some large conspiracy to eradicate blacks, or something. Enough...

5 cops assassinated, 5 more wounded.

Congratulations to all the activists who got their followers good and worked up yesterday, by declaring that they are at war with white cops.

We as a nation need to do better. Black / white, even Italians.

Every time cop goes out their life is on the line. Driving while black shouldn't happen. Professional agitators should not be working up protestors peacefully protesting.

For the love of GOD!! Politicians SHOULD NOT BE WORKING UP PROTESTORS!!!

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For the love of GOD!! Politicians SHOULD NOT BE WORKING UP PROTESTORS!!!

That's exactly what Obama did. And then he claims to be shocked when this happens.

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You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

Yes.
3 days ago, she was all over the news.
Today, back pages.....
Not like the Clintons are strangers to murder or people who could testify against them accidently commit suicide
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We as a nation need to do better. Black / white, even Italians.


Hey! leave us Italians out of this....we only kill our own....lol..:)

Hey! leave us Italians out of this....we only kill our own....lol..:)



No.
We kill, it's business
Not personal.
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You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

I don't believe that makes her happy, but only because it doesn't help her career.

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.

If she cared about helping blacks, she would tell them to stop having 75% of their kids out of wedlock. But she won't say that, because liberals don't like to tell people that they are generally responsible for their own lot in life. Much better for her, politically speaking, to tell them that it's all some honkey's fault.

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

blacks get the attention because they feel they R picked on and targeted by cops....not true....in 2015 stats of race killed by cops:

white....502
blacks 250
latinos & mexican(brown people) 135

U never here these stats from the news media and they do not broadcast the names of whites and brown people....the left liberal media were going to show that more blacks were killed then white ....they could not find any stats to prove them right.

I don't believe that makes her happy, but only because it doesn't help her career.

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.
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What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?

Yes.
3 days ago, she was all over the news.
Today, back pages.....
Not like the Clintons are strangers to murder or people who could testify against them accidently commit suicide
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So bc you think she isn't in the news as much today as 2 days ago she somehow is taking joy in the murder of 5 cops - that is crazy.

I forgot they killed Vince Foster:laugha:

What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?
It's hard to believe actually.

Speaking of hate

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dallas-police-shooting-black-power-8378177


more coming? wtf

How are these hate groups allowed to exist in civilized times? I guess we are not that civilized and the leadership has failed

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.

If she cared about helping blacks, she would tell them to stop having 75% of their kids out of wedlock. But she won't say that, because liberals don't like to tell people that they are generally responsible for their own lot in life. Much better for her, politically speaking, to tell them that it's all some honkey's fault.

I don't normally speak up in this thread, but I guess I walked myself into this when I jumped on the boards this morning knowing there would be a thread about this. I just wanted to share my observations which are really well summarized by the quote above:

We (everyone) need to stop bundling people together into stereotypes in situations like this. A lot of these recent events have been caused by it; the black community thinking a disproportionate # of cops are out to kill them, cops apparently feeling threatened by a disproportionate # of people of color, the media thinking that a disproportionate # of shootings have some sort of societal prejudice behind them, people thinking that ALL democrats or ALL republicans think the same, and then we finally get last night, where stupid criminals feel like they need to mow down all white police officers... I don't think you get to where we went last night without the above pot stirring that has been going on for years.

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?

There's nothing else to believe. Just yesterday, Obama said that the cops killing black detainees, "are not isolated incidents". In other words, our President told the nation yesterday (before the investigations of the latest 2 incidents even began), that the cops who killed these guys in the last 2 days, were somehow inspired by, or connected to, previous cops who killed black detainees. He says that, either because he is dumber than stupid, or because he is exploiting the situation for political gain. If there is a third alternative, please explain it to me.

This is a guy (Obama) who said that white people cling to their guns and to their religion because they are bitter and racist.
This is a guy who said "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time".

I know exactly what this man thinks about people like me. We all do. No one who listened to Rev Wright for 20 years has any use for middle America. So sorry if I don't feel compelled to kiss his ring.

He told the nation yesterday that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill them. You bet I hate him. This has been some presidency.

I don't normally speak up in this thread, but I guess I walked myself into this when I jumped on the boards this morning knowing there would be a thread about this. I just wanted to share my observations which are really well summarized by the quote above:

We (everyone) need to stop bundling people together into stereotypes in situations like this. A lot of these recent events have been caused by it; the black community thinking a disproportionate # of cops are out to kill them, cops apparently feeling threatened by a disproportionate # of people of color, the media thinking that a disproportionate # of shootings have some sort of societal prejudice behind them, people thinking that ALL democrats or ALL republicans think the same, and then we finally get last night, where stupid criminals feel like they need to mow down all white police officers... I don't think you get to where we went last night without the above pot stirring that has been going on for years.

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

OK, so I won't say that we need to address the fact that 75% of black kids are born out of wedlock, because that might hurt someone's feelings...

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

Obama says that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill all of them. And the liberals say I am the hatemonger.

I'm supposed to believe that there's any moral equivalence between what cops do to blacks, and what they do to each other every day in Chicago.

Our moral compass is so completely screwed up as shown by these comments, that we probably deserve this sonofabitch as our President.

OK, so I won't say that we need to address the fact that 75% of black kids are born out of wedlock, because that might hurt someone's feelings...

If saying it results in some sort of change, then its worth it. If its just an attempt to further marginalize a group of people by layering a demeaning statistic over their section of the population, you're maybe ONLY accomplishing hurting someones feelings, and that seems like hate to me.

I have to agree with the socialist here.....hillary is not happy about this....they that R in custody R and they should B :hang: or:nailem:

Obama says that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill all of them. And the liberals say I am the hatemonger.

I'm supposed to believe that there's any moral equivalence between what cops do to blacks, and what they do to each other every day in Chicago.

Our moral compass is so completely screwed up as shown by these comments, that we probably deserve this sonofabitch as our President.

I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day. As I said before, your stereotyping is doing nothing but furthering an agenda of hate. I think you have some level of a justified point buried in here somewhere, but your hate for the president and apparent hate for black people is making that point VERY difficult to understand.

If saying it results in some sort of change, then its worth it. If its just an attempt to further marginalize a group of people by layering a demeaning statistic over their section of the population, you're maybe ONLY accomplishing hurting someones feelings, and that seems like hate to me.

I don't know that any of us here are legislators who can write laws. I'm pretty sure this is a forum for debate, not a forum for actually forming public policy.

Liberals ignore the actual issues (and solutions) applicable to this community, and instead make it worse, by telling them to blame whitey for everything. Sorry if you don't like hearing that. Fortunately for you, there are mechanisms here to block me so you don't have to see anything I have to say.

I get riled up when ambitious liberal liars work up a mob which turns its fury on innocent heroes.

I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day. As I said before, your stereotyping is doing nothing but furthering an agenda of hate. I think you have some level of a justified point buried in here somewhere, but your hate for the president and apparent hate for black people is making that point VERY difficult to understand.

"I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day"

Nobody ever said that 100% of cops do anything, or that 100% of black people kill each other. God's sake. How would you describe what is happening in Chicago, out of curiosity?

"your stereotyping "

Are blacks killing each other in huge numbers in places like Chicago, yes or no? Do they need effective solutions to their plight, yes or no?

blacks get the attention because they feel they R picked on and targeted by cops....not true....in 2015 stats of race killed by cops:

white....502
blacks 250
latinos & mexican(brown people) 135

U never here these stats from the news media and they do not broadcast the names of whites and brown people....the left liberal media were going to show that more blacks were killed then white ....they could not find any stats to prove them right.

Wait until an actuary like Jim sees this and tells you that just looking at raw #s like your doing is totally wrong. Break it down by per 1,000 and then it might have some validity.

Wait until an actuary like Jim sees this and tells you that just looking at raw #s like your doing is totally wrong. Break it down by per 1,000 and then it might have some validity.

Of course you are correct. Blacks are what, 15% of the population, but are 28% of the people killed by cops?

Paul, I'm honest enough to immediately concede that blacks are disproportionately killed by cops, disproportionately pulled over, and disproportionately put in prison. Those are irrefutable facts.

Here's where I presume you and I differ. I don't think you can look at the data, and conclude that cop racism is responsible for all of the discrepancies. If blacks disproportionately commit violent crimes (for some cultural or socioeconomic reason), that would also explain the data. That's what I think is the driving force here, so naturally (as a problem-solver) that's where I feel we should direct much of our energy and funds. But we don't. We blame whitey. And the results (which are tragic both for blacks and for white cops) speak for themselves.

What do you think? Too much hate in there? Or is there any rational common sense?

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

"Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate"

Thanks! I don't hate liberals as a rule (some exceptions), but I really am starting to hate liberalism.

"Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy"

We agree 100%.

I have a crucial question for you, I hope you will take a swing at answering it directly?

If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).

Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them. He didn't mention a syllable about the need to raise their kids responsibly and lovingly, he didn't say anything about working hard in school to break the cycle of poverty.

Why is that?

Answer - it doesn't serve his agenda, and that is more important to Obama, than actually helping these people.

Al Sharpton has visited Obama dozens of times. That tells you everything you need to know about where Obama stands on this issue. Any responsible person knows that Sharpton is a lethally dangerous fool.

They (white cops) prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.

If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?

Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.

If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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I'm not defending it. Where did I defend that? I also don't think we know yet, that he was shot for no reason, any more than we knew that the cop in Ferguson was guilty, or any more than we knew that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty.

Obama's Justice Dept will investigate. Let's calm down until we know what happened.

I will plead guilty to this, I give the cops the benefit of the doubt. I can be convinced otherwise, but just because the cop is white and the deceased is black, that's not evidence of racism. But it's enough for the shameless race baiters like Sharpton and Obama.

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Maybe after more facts come out it can be defended rather than just based on an 'after the event' witness video. Why was the officer dealing with the passenger, was he done with the driver? Seems as though you have already convicted the Asian cop as a racist murderer.
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If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).



Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

Just keep this civil please.

Wait until an actuary like Jim sees this and tells you that just looking at raw #s like your doing is totally wrong. Break it down by per 1,000 and then it might have some validity.

I knew someone would mention the per, not going to mention that but the tide is turning....non white babies being born in the last few years have out numbered whites.....the fastest growing population in the U.S. are Asians....another thing, jim is hung up on black babies being born out of wedlock, so R white babies....the millennials(16-35) prefer to have babies out of wedlockthis includes all races....:)

Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.

Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

I am sorry to say you dodged my question completely.

I never said that legitimate police abuse should not be addressed. What I said, is that's what liberals obsess over (even though we both admitted that's a minor cause of black tragedy), and liberals almost never talk about what causes a huge majority of black tragedies (black on black violence, caused by a complete breakdown of family values).

We both know that you could not answer my question without admitting that your side is ignoring a genuine epidemic, in order to fabricate another epidemic, one which better serves the liberal agenda.

True cop racism is nowhere near the issue for the black community, compared to the cultural genocide that's taking place in urban areas. Yet cop racism is what gets 95% of liberals attention. As we saw last night, that has catastrophic effects.

And then here comes Obama, who naturally isn't going to concede that his hate speech had anything to do with it. Instead, he calls for gun control.

Amazing! Yesterday, Obama told America that cops are executing our citizens. Today, he is saying that we'd all be safer if only cops had guns.

He's a flip-flopping, racist moron. And he feels at least as much hate as you accuse me of, yet I never see you lament that. No one who feels that Al Sharpton can have a productive influence on race relations, is to be taken seriously.

another thing, jim is hung up on black babies being born out of wedlock, so R white babies....the millennials(16-35) prefer to have babies out of wedlockthis includes all races....:)

Come on. Not in anywhere near the same percentages. 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock. Given that blacks are disproportionately poor to begin with, this guarantees a continued downward spiral for them. And it guarantees that large numbers of them will turn toward violence.

100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.

Sorry you feel we aren't a great nation anymore.

So would you support the increased spending on programs that help minorities more than whites (things like pre school programs, etc)?

So a murder committed by a criminal should be lumped in with the execution by a cop of someone pulled over for a broken taillight who was getting his license like he was asked - that is hilarious.

Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...

So a murder committed by a criminal should be lumped in with the execution by a cop of someone pulled over for a broken taillight who was getting his license like he was asked - that is hilarious.

No one said we should ignore true police brutality. No one said that a cop committing murder is the same as a criminal committing murder.

A certain sign that I have beaten a liberal, is when they start responding to things that I never said, but rather, they respond to jibberish that no one even came close to saying.

You are coming un-glued.

"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...

You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President. :jump:

http://www.wfaa.com/mb/news/crime/convenience-store-looted-downtown-after-attack/267260288

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Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate :rotf3: Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.

You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President. :jump:

Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.

Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate :rotf3: Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.

"go look at your 2nd post".

All righty, here it is.

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

You see something hateful, or even wrong, in there Paul? Maybe you should read that 2nd post, because it has that question I asked (why do liberals obsess over a rare problem and ignore the real issue), yet you won't answer. I wonder why that is??

"Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics"

My wife is well aware. And it's not that I disagree with Hilary's politics. It's that she is a morally bankrupt, pathological liar, and a repugnant human being. I can say the same thing about Trump. He's a complete a-hole. It's not about politics. I am in favor of gay marriage and gun control, I call out good and bad on both sides.

"Your hate is unparalled on this forum"

I disagree. And as we have all seen, my opinions aren't so flimsy, that I am ever unable to answer any question you ask. Can you say the same? Nope. You dodged repeatedly here. A simple question, and it had you on the ropes.

Two questions actually...
(1) what makes you say conservatives have no sympathy for minorities?
(2) if, as you say, true police brutality is a small contributor to black struggles, why do liberals spend so much more time obsessing over it, than they do trying to solve the problems that are major contributors to black struggles.

Here's a tip. If your opinions are so flimsy that you can't begin to answer such simple, pertinent questions...maybe you should re-think you opinions.

Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.

I said you're right - that I have a lot of hate. I'm always on this forum calling woman the C word bc I don't like her politics, that I think a whole political party is evil, etc, etc, etc. - I could go on and on and on and on.

sarcasm.

The policies of the Repub. disportionally hurt minorities. I hear it constantly.

Your wife is aware you call woman the C word? Does she approve of that? If my wife heard me call someone that she throw her shoe at me.

The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.

Come on. Not in anywhere near the same percentages. 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock. Given that blacks are disproportionately poor to begin with, this guarantees a continued downward spiral for them. And it guarantees that large numbers of them will turn toward violence.


Remember Perdue the chicken man....his down fall was using percentages and charts.....:)

The policies of the Repub. disportionally hurt minorities. I hear it constantly.

Name one policy, please.

Because I can be very specific about liberal policies that have been devastating to minorities (abortion, welfare, even some say affirmative action causes serious damage).

"I hear it constantly"

Well, if Rachael Maddow and Arianna Huffington say it, and you hear it, that's good enough for me!

I wonder why statistical studies show that conservatives give a little more to charity, than liberals do, if they are so lacking in empathy?

Your wife is aware you call woman the C word? Does she approve of that? If my wife heard me call someone that she throw her shoe at me.

The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.

She is aware of it. She doesn't like it. But she knows that if I describe Hilary that way, I am more accurate, than say, you are when you say conservatives have no sympathy for minorities. You see, when I call Hilary that word, I can fill the Pacific Ocean with accurate examples of why I think of her that way. When I ask you why you say conservatives don't care about minorities, the best you can come up with is "I hear it all the time".

I also hear all the time, from your side, that Chicjk Fil A hates gays. Funny what the Florida Chick Fil-A's did (quietly) for the gay community after the terror attack there. Just because you hear something, doesn't make it remotely true. I keep hearing from your side that white cops are targeting black men. I hear that all the time. Because I hear it all the time, doesn't make it less asinine.

Liberals (as a group) cannot find a way to admit that someone can disagree with them, and still be a good person.

The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.

Here's why I don't particularly care about that. Many of the people who are offended by that word, have no problem claiming tirelessly that conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.... Any rational person finds that offensive. So what's good for the goose...

Here's why I don't particularly care about that. Many of the people who are offended by that word, have no problem claiming tirelessly that conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.... Any rational person finds that offensive. So what's good for the goose...

Not if it is true

see your Presidential candidate. Somehow he beat everyone in the primaries. Most have been all the lib. crossing over and voting for him in the primaries.

Come on. Not in anywhere near the same percentages. 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock. Given that blacks are disproportionately poor to begin with, this guarantees a continued downward spiral for them. And it guarantees that large numbers of them will turn toward violence.

So based on this statement, any child born outside of wedlock is fine as long as its not black, in which case its guaranteed a violent life that spirals downward?

Please tell me this statement was a mistake, because otherwise it seems like you're begging someone to bend their view of out-of-wedlock childbirth to a very racist viewpoint.

Like I said, I'm hoping the way you worded your response wasn't as you intended it.

Not if it is true

see your Presidential candidate. Somehow he beat everyone in the primaries. Most have been all the lib. crossing over and voting for him in the primaries.

Correct, not if it's true. In this case, it's laughably false.

Oh, you are gong to judge all conservatives by the character of our 2016 candidate? I forgot about Hilary's morality, honesty, integrity, and ethics!! Many conservatives are embarrassed by Trump, especially me. I don't know many liberals who are ashamed of Hilary. Can I similarly say that all liberals are extremely careless, and couldn't find the truth in a bucket with both hands? Paul, you tee'd that one up for me nicely.

In 2008 and 2012, were you saying that all liberals were racist jerks because of who your candidate was in those years?

So based on this statement, any child born outside of wedlock is fine as long as its not black, in which case its guaranteed a violent life that spirals downward?

Please tell me this statement was a mistake, because otherwise it seems like you're begging someone to bend their view of out-of-wedlock childbirth to a very racist viewpoint.

Like I said, I'm hoping the way you worded your response wasn't as you intended it.

Boy do you need to take reading comprehension. First, you thought I said every single black person is guilty of killing other blacks. Now, somehow, you are concluding that I said that it's fine for white babies to be born out of wedlock.

What I am saying (in fact, what I explicitly said) is that out-of-wedlock births are particularly destructive for blacks, because they are disproportionately poor. The wealthier a woman is, the more likely it is they can effectively raise a child by themselves, because they can afford more help (nannies, tutors, etc). The ramifications of large-scale single parenting are well documented. Just because the conclusions don't serve the liberal agenda, doesn't make it racist.

Is that really going too fast for you?

Correct, not if it's true. In this case, it's laughably false.

Oh, you are gong to judge all conservatives by the character of our 2016 candidate? I forgot about Hilary's morality, honesty, integrity, and ethics!! Many conservatives are embarrassed by Trump, especially me. I don't know many liberals who are ashamed of Hilary. Can I similarly say that all liberals are extremely careless, and couldn't find the truth in a bucket with both hands? Paul, you tee'd that one up for me nicely.

In 2008 and 2012, were you saying that all liberals were racist jerks because of who your candidate was in those years?

Jim,

As I have previously, I'm making fun of you bc of all your stereotypes. Find 1 thing about what you don't like with a person in 1 political party and apply that to the whole party.

Jim,

As I have previously, I'm making fun of you bc of all your stereotypes. Find 1 thing about what you don't like with a person in 1 political party and apply that to the whole party.

Yawn. Paul, in the future, if I say "liberals tend to...", you can assume that I don't mean every single liberal acts that way. I just don't want to have to type that all the time.

It sure is not as great as it use to be, all I see lately is it getting weaker not stronger

Yes I would support programs to give people equal chances

What I don't support is illegal people getting benefits that our citizens can't even get, seems like common sense to me if they are not contributing, they should not have their hands in the kitty.

I picked up Mikey's first contact lenses and waited for a non English speaking family that was before us in the line. When they left the store, the clerk let out a sigh and muttered something about more free glasses for these types.
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I don't believe that makes her happy, but only because it doesn't help her career.

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.

If she cared about helping blacks, she would tell them to stop having 75% of their kids out of wedlock. But she won't say that, because liberals don't like to tell people that they are generally responsible for their own lot in life. Much better for her, politically speaking, to tell them that it's all some honkey's fault.

Or even better, she'll "promise" that if they vote for her (as many times as they can) that SHE"LL fix the problem!

Boy I really dream of the good old days when politicians would lie about "no new taxes" and no one paid with their lives!

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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What got me wondering was this:

If your boyfriend/girlfriend is driving the car, and you get shot by a cop / thug, wouldn't you think they'd be just a little more emotional about you being shot? Wouldn't you think that taking a selfie-video explaining what happened like you were explaining how to open a door is a little weird? Even the "kid" in the back seat wasn't making any noise (based on the video the girlfriend posted to Facebook) AS IT HAPPENED!

The guy told the police he had a weapon, and was reaching behind him (for his wallet?). Now exactly how many police would have to be shot/killed by someone making the same motions before they can react accordingly?
Sad to say, but he may have caused his own death by virtue of moving at the wrong time. Is the cop at fault? Maybe so if his commands were unclear.

Here's another thing...she was driving, so because the police stop was due to a busted tail light, she would be the one to need the license and registration. Now in the course of the traffic stop a passenger ADMITS to having a gun, and then starts digging/reaching for something behind him or in his pockets, what are the police supposed to do or better yet what should they think?

Unfortunately the police have become a target for thugs, druggies, pushers and any number of worthless low-life scum.
Add to that willingly editing and misrepresenting the facts by the media and ALL politicians and the posting of cell videos by so-called "concerned citizens" and the police have to be so politically correct that they can't do their job as intended.
They have to be careful not to offend anyone or risk public scorn because some scumbag's friend took a video of their arrest/shooting that didn't show what started the event but ONLY the outcome. Sure, cop-cameras would solve a lot of these problems but I doubt the public would believe a cop-camera video over the victims friend.



Hey, what about the black man that was shot by an off-duty white cop in Brooklyn? He got out of his car, ran up to the cop's car and began pummeling him through the driver's window. Repeated haymakers to the head and face before the cop shot him twice.
Once in the head, once in the chest.

This thugs girlfriend told police that the cop got out of his car and approached her "good-guy" boyfriend before shooting him dead.

A local business owner has provided video proof to the contrary, proving the thug attacked the cop and paid the price for it.

Notice the media and the political wh*res aren't harping about that one?

From 2004 to 2014 according to the FBI 43% of police killed in the line of duty were killed by 12% of the population.
Here are some other fun facts.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
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Tim
The girlfriend was NOT the driver, the video was reversed
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Tim
The girlfriend was NOT the driver, the video was reversed
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I didn't catch the mirrored video..I did hear that he was considered a potential match for an armed robbery that had recently taken place before the stop. It is a recording of the officer calling the stop in before it happened so it appears that the officer thought he was dealing with the armed robbery suspect.

http://gawker.com/cop-on-apparent-police-scanner-audio-said-philando-cast-1783339741
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I picked up Mikey's first contact lenses and waited for a non English speaking family that was before us in the line. When they left the store, the clerk let out a sigh and muttered something about more free glasses for these types.
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I am sure that has happened many times in our history its not new or surprising

the 3 rd generation French American standing behind the german immigrant or the Rich new yorker standing behind the the Irish guy right off the boat or me standing behind the 80year old Portuguese
lady speaking Portuguese to the cashier at Stop and Shop ... today

and yet the USA is still Great why do you think people want to come here Just for free stuff the stuff that illegals can't and dont get because they are Illegal :confused:

Boy do you need to take reading comprehension. First, you thought I said every single black person is guilty of killing other blacks. Now, somehow, you are concluding that I said that it's fine for white babies to be born out of wedlock.

What I am saying (in fact, what I explicitly said) is that out-of-wedlock births are particularly destructive for blacks, because they are disproportionately poor. The wealthier a woman is, the more likely it is they can effectively raise a child by themselves, because they can afford more help (nannies, tutors, etc). The ramifications of large-scale single parenting are well documented. Just because the conclusions don't serve the liberal agenda, doesn't make it racist.

Is that really going too fast for you?

The speed it's traveling at isn't my problem, it's the circles it keeps traveling in that I'm having trouble keeping up with, damn centrifugal force!
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"black lives matter" ....some (a lot) of its followers/supporters are celebrating and calling for more cop killings...totally disgusting. :cens:

Ferguson affect is taking hold and making a difficult job more dangerous than ever, cops can't even make an arrest in a lot of places without a crowd taunting them. Places like Chicago, the police have taken a step back, gangs rule the streets with multiple murders every day of the week no outrage from blm or potus.

Thank a policeman today for keeping us safe from what would be absolute chaos without them.

I didn't catch the mirrored video..I did hear that he was considered a potential match for an armed robbery that had recently taken place before the stop. It is a recording of the officer calling the stop in before it happened so it appears that the officer thought he was dealing with the armed robbery suspect.

http://gawker.com/cop-on-apparent-police-scanner-audio-said-philando-cast-1783339741
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Because he had a "wide-set nose"...are you effing kidding me?

potus has taken away most if not all of police departments nation wide military equipment....will he take away there semi auto weapons too.....remember the bobbies of the UK never had weapons...then were given hand guns until they were faced with fire power of ak47's from drug cartels and dealers operating in their country and only then bobbies were given semi auto rifles....there is a lesson to B learned from Texas since this was a peaceful demo..... they were caught off guard, sharp shooters should B positioned at high points...there was confusion, did not know where perpetrator was, seconds is a long time.

Because he had a "wide-set nose"...are you effing kidding me?

Maybe it was his way of being politically correct when describing the robbery suspect.
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Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them.

Source ? Is this a direct quote or your interpretation of something that was said

The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..

Obama: "But regardless of the outcome of such investigations, what’s clear is that these fatal shootings are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of the broader challenges within our criminal justice system, the racial disparities that appear across the system year after year, and the resulting lack of trust that exists between law enforcement and too many of the communities they serve".
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The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..
So he gave her a ticket...sounds like BS to me.
Are you saying women can't kill police?
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and yet the USA is still Great why do you think people want to come here Just for free stuff the stuff that illegals can't and dont get because they are Illegal :confused:

U R wrong, illegals do get benefits...the one benefit that illegals get is emergency medical care, but it gets complicated, if they have children that R born in the USA they get welfare, food stamps legally....but alot of illegals get forged documents saying they R U.S. citizens and of course get benefits.

here is a true example of emergency care,this happened on a friends property....illegal climbs tree to cut a tree limb was not hired by owner....falls out of tree, breaks back taken to hospital....250 thou hospital bill paid by tax payers

The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..

So if it was a black man in the same situation it would have been racist??

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

....and were you actually in the car to corroborate that it actually happened this way. Seems hearsay is becoming the new "Facts"
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You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?




I still believe she's happy !

Here's the liberal media's so called "Father of the year"

So if it was a black man in the same situation it would have been racist??

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

....and were you actually in the car to corroborate that it actually happened this way. Seems hearsay is becoming the new "Facts"
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Wow you dont believe anything!! why would I need to be in the car to corroborate Her telling of the incident... and this was months before any of the current craziness going on now

I am in Law enforcement there is no dam if you do or dam if you dont .. follow your UOF policy and your all set I doubt shooting some one because you think they have a gun is in the policy as a justified reason for discharging one's weapon

But if you dont think when some officers pull over a black person they may act differently .. your heads buried in the sand

Racism can easily just be stereotyping not sinister no overt intent .. Just inexperience in the job or life in general.. thats how I see the issue

But it seems easier for one side to yell Racism and the other side to say No there isn't than to have a frank conversation

Frank conversation....twice as many whites are killed by cops. Over 40% of officers killed are killed by blacks (12% of the population including both male and female any age) when you take out the minors and elderly that leaves about 6% of the total population responsible for over 40% of the police that are killed.
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U R wrong, illegals do get benefits...the one benefit that illegals get is emergency medical care, but it gets complicated, if they have children that R born in the USA they get welfare, food stamps legally....but alot of illegals get forged documents saying they R U.S. citizens and of course get benefits.

here is a true example of emergency care,this happened on a friends property....illegal climbs tree to cut a tree limb was not hired by owner....falls out of tree, breaks back taken to hospital....250 thou hospital bill paid by tax payers


And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses

And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses
How about the fact they shouldn't even be here.
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Frank conversation....twice as many whites are killed by cops. Over 40% of officers killed are killed by blacks (12% of the population including both male and female any age) when you take out the minors and elderly that leaves about 6% of the total population responsible for over 40% of the police that are killed.
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so your correct in raw numbers and thats about it I would like to see how many whites were unarmed



most of those killed by police are male and white. 123 of those shot were Black Americans. This is a relatively high share, keeping in mind that close to 13 percent of Americans belong to that ethnic group.

238 whites who are 63 percent of Americans

How about the fact they shouldn't even be here.
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But they are ! and have been our entire History as a country thats just reality .. And its never going to change it will fluctuate up or down but you'll never see a time with Zero Illegals.. parts of the economy would be destroyed if it ever happen and this hasn't happen Just under Obama as some would have us think

lets focus on the illegals



:cheers:

so your correct in raw numbers and thats about it I would like to see how many whites were unarmed



most of those killed by police are male and white. 123 of those shot were Black Americans. This is a relatively high share, keeping in mind that close to 13 percent of Americans belong to that ethnic group.

238 whites who are 63 percent of Americans

Don't gloss over that fact that over 40% of cops killed in the line of duty are killed by blacks.
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Racism can easily just be stereotyping not sinister no overt intent .. Just inexperience in the job or life in general.. thats how I see the issue

But it seems easier for one side to yell Racism and the other side to say No there isn't than to have a frank conversation

There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

Racism is the feeling that someone is inferior to you strictly because of their race.

If you want to have an honest dialog about racism, how about we actually talk about racism. And not label every little politically incorrect thing that someone says or does as racism.
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There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

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I don't think a lot of the incidents have been as a result of racism but stereotyping.

I don't think a lot of the incidents have been as a result of racism but stereotyping.

Like " white privilege" ?
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And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses

When U R wrong such as your statement, "illegals do not get benefits," U like to switch to other subjects such as addicts....not talking about addicts....please stay on subject matter or just do not say more when U R wrong.....:)

Like " white privilege" ?
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I feel as a whitey I have a lot of privilege.

I feel as a whitey I have a lot of privilege.

That explains your incredible guilt I feel I earned what I have despite the government working against me .
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That explains your incredible guilt I feel I earned what I have despite the government working against me .
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Good one. I was able to drive to work today, change lanes and not put on my blinker. I didn't even get pulled over.

Watch out for those black helicopters.

Good one. I was able to drive to work today, change lanes and not put on my blinker. I didn't even get pulled over.

Watch out for those black helicopters.

No conspiracy crazy person here Paul . I just know how many regulations and taxes I have to overcome to get to where I want to be .
Stop stereotyping people
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When U R wrong such as your statement, "illegals do not get benefits," U like to switch to other subjects such as addicts....not talking about addicts....please stay on subject matter or just do not say more when U R wrong.....:)

no we are taking about the imaginary amount of free benefits illegals get.. but we'll ignore the c=vast numbers of Americans who use the Majority of theses free benefits


getting care for breaking ones back legal or not legal is not a benefit its human decency .. and most if not all hospitals have money set aside for the un insured for both Americans who can't pay and illegals who cant pay or the Family on Vacation who are from other Nations ..

There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

Racism is the feeling that someone is inferior to you strictly because of their race.

If you want to have an honest dialog about racism, how about we actually talk about racism. And not label every little politically incorrect thing that someone says or does as racism.
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Who's doing that pull a gun on a cop no matter your Race and you get killed I have no issues

But police killing people because they think they have a gun no matter the Race .. I have an issue with that

So whats a stereotype if it used and only assigned to 1 Race AKA BLACKS you dont think this is a Form of Racism ?

no we are taking about the imaginary amount of free benefits illegals get.. but we'll ignore the c=vast numbers of Americans who use the Majority of theses free benefits


getting care for breaking ones back legal or not legal is not a benefit its human decency .. and most if not all hospitals have money set aside for the un insured for both Americans who can't pay and illegals who cant pay or the Family on Vacation who are from other Nations ..

And what about the American citizens who get pushed back in order to accommodate the illegals. What about the Americans who die because the healthcare syatem is flooded with illegal immigrants. Then what about the students who don't get the education they could be getting if illegals weren't slowing down the system or taking a seat that should be theirs.
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Unfortunately the media adheres to the "squeaky wheel gets the oil" train of thought, so regardless of whether they are right of wrong, if any one group shouts, screams and disrupts the general populace they will be heard and presented as the powers-that-be for the moment.

Since the uninformed masses don't care to hear logical intelligent conversation, and proof and factual information just give them a headache, they tend to rely on the old "you're a racist" battle cry!

Just the 21st century equivalent of lemming rushing off a cliff!

Who's doing that pull a gun on a cop no matter your Race and you get killed I have no issues

But police killing people because they think they have a gun no matter the Race .. I have an issue with that

So whats a stereotype if it used and only assigned to 1 Race AKA BLACKS you dont think this is a Form of Racism ?

What incident are you referring to where someone got killed by police because they thought they had a gun?
I think job applications are racist. Why should my race have anything to do with my qualifications for the job.
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Stop stereotyping people
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but yet you're the one who made the assinine statement about white guilt:jump:

I see your white privilege and raise you affirmative action. ;)
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no we are taking about the imaginary amount of free benefits illegals get.. but we'll ignore the c=vast numbers of Americans who use the Majority of theses free benefits


getting care for breaking ones back legal or not legal is not a benefit its human decency .. and most if not all hospitals have money set aside for the un insured for both Americans who can't pay and illegals who cant pay or the Family on Vacation who are from other Nations ..

Why are we talking about imaginary benefits? why are you saying we ignore the vast numbers of US citizens who utilize these free benefits that we earned or their parents earned or who actually are entitled to said benefits?
Coming here illegally does not entitle you to squat ( I am referring to college tuition etc.) Now if you are here and need medical treatment, that is a different kind of benefit not even comparable to human decency.

The system is over burdened can't you see that? Vets don't get the care they need and go without, those who fought for our country, yet newcomers are getting entitlements, that does not compute in my book. I thought you would understand that one since I thought you are a veteran.

And what about the American citizens who get pushed back in order to accommodate the illegals. What about the Americans who die because the healthcare syatem is flooded with illegal immigrants. Then what about the students who don't get the education they could be getting if illegals weren't slowing down the system or taking a seat that should be theirs.
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Hence my earlier comment an imagined reality . none of those things you listed have or are happening ... you'll believe the above but dont think some racism has any connection with Cops shooting unarmed Blacks or poor training or that they see to many people as a threat .. Conservative propaganda at its best

Unfortunately the media adheres to the "squeaky wheel gets the oil" train of thought, so regardless of whether they are right of wrong, if any one group shouts, screams and disrupts the general populace they will be heard and presented as the powers-that-be for the moment.

Since the uninformed masses don't care to hear logical intelligent conversation, and proof and factual information just give them a headache, they tend to rely on the old "you're a racist" battle cry!

Just the 21st century equivalent of lemming rushing off a cliff!

agreed.. and the others sides is running beside them saying there is no
racism off the same cliff

Hence my earlier comment an imagined reality . none of those things you listed have or are happening ... you'll believe the above but dont think some racism has any connection with Cops shooting unarmed Blacks or poor training or that they see to many people as a threat .. Conservative propaganda at its best

Can't give an example so it is you pushing propaganda.
Do the illegal immigrants children get to attend school?
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Who's doing that pull a gun on a cop no matter your Race and you get killed I have no issues

But police killing people because they think they have a gun no matter the Race .. I have an issue with that

So whats a stereotype if it used and only assigned to 1 Race AKA BLACKS you dont think this is a Form of Racism ?

It' wasn't really a stereotype that caused the police to pull them over...like ...

The Irish Drink a lot
The Asians are good at math....but terrible drivers
And blacks have bigger #^&#^&#^&#^&s.....

Those are stereotypes....

Does racial profiling exist.....absolutely....but that is not racism.

Nowadays everything gets tucked under that neat little umbrella called racism......so now the word has completely lost its effectiveness.

You want to fix the issue of racial profiling......call it such and stop calling every thing racism

And start looking at every event as a single event and wait for all the facts to come in before people start calling everybody racists....
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Hence my earlier comment an imagined reality . none of those things you listed have or are happening ... you'll believe the above but dont think some racism has any connection with Cops shooting unarmed Blacks or poor training or that they see to many people as a threat .. Conservative propaganda at its best

"dont think some racism has any connection with Cops shooting unarmed Blacks "

Maybe. And while once is too many, that is a very, very rare thing. Not nearly worthy of all the attention it gets. In Chicago, there is a murder every 14 hours (most are black-on-black) and that gets very little attention.

This isn't about helping blacks. It's about divisive politics.

when it comes to chicago, missouri, baltimore and the like U do not C BLM, al sharpton, wimpy goldberg going to these places to help the communities, they incite the black community.... they do not talk about black against black shootings....they do not help blacks dealing drugs to each other....92% of killings in chicago R done by black on black.....there will always B racism, it will not go away

In a nutshell, we all need to do a little better WRT race.

But if you are a deadbeat and you are black, or you are a deadbeat and you are white, your still a deadbeat.

If you are awesoe and you are black or if you are awesone and you are white, you are awesome.

Chief Davis in Dallas is a leader. He is black. And he is awesome.

We SHOULD make the law as colorblind as possible, based on your actions.

I feel as a whitey I have a lot of privilege.

I never felt very privileged living in the projects as a kid.

There's our lunatic-in-chief, at the memorial service for 5 slaughtered police officers, turning that event into a left-wing political rally for gun control. Obama said that in our cities, it's easier to get a gun than it is to get a book.

He's an idiot who has no appreciation for how inappropriate that setting is for a policy speech, and on top of that, what he said is nonsensical babble. What nut wrote that?

I never felt very privileged living in the projects as a kid.

And I never did growing up in a blue collar working class town.

I never felt very privileged living in the projects as a kid.[/QUOTE]



Me neither spending most of my youth in Roxbury and Dorchester Ma.
Certainly didn't feel white privileged every 1st of the month with a welfare office around the corner from my grandfather's repair shop.
A parade of nice cars all day long every 1st week of the month going to pick up their checks.
Now they get them electronically
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I never felt very privileged living in the projects as a kid.

Same here...I grew up in Lynn.....not a lot of privilege going on there.