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Slipknot
08-17-2016, 10:07 PM
good article here that is very telling of the age we live in and the danger ahead. There is a process to law and Healy went right around that with her directive that has been applauded by gun grabbers. Taking away law abiding citizens' right to defend themselves while allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety if you ask me. Just because some nutjob shoots some people, that doesn't mean a gun is bad, the gun did not pull it's own trigger. She is taking the easy way out instead of taking on mental health issues and domestic terrorism so disarm the tax payers instead, BRILLIANT!
I am so fed up with liberals and gun grabbers trying to destroy our country. Vote them out of office and choose someone who will uphold the Constitution which is being dragged thru the mud.


here is the article


Healey tramping on our civil rights

Posted on August 17, 2016
Healey tramping on our civil rights
Sentinel & Enterprise
UPDATED: 08/16/2016 06:34:12 AM EDT


By Art O’Leary

Guest Columnist

Upon returning from an extended trip in the wilderness, I was dismayed to learn that our attorney general, Maura Healey, has once again sought to use the power of her office to infringe upon the basic civil rights of the inhabitants of the commonwealth.

By issuing an overnight edict as interpretation of established law, without any public input or due process, she has demonstrated contempt for the citizenry and a blatant disregard for the fundamentals of constitutional government, where the Legislature makes the laws, the judicial branch interprets them and the executive branch carries them out.

Now, our existing Massachusetts gun laws — love ’em or hate ’em — were arrived at by the people’s representatives in our bicameral Legislature, with substantial input from all stakeholders at hearings around the state, and with compromises from all sides. To issue a unilateral ban on an entire class of lawful firearms is more in line with the behavior of a despot, a KGB commissar, than that of the chief law enforcement officer in the state where the concept of American liberty was born! Indeed, our shores have not seen this level of tyranny since the days of Gov. Hutchinson and the stamp tax.

The attorney general is using her taxpayer-funded office to prohibit sales and ownership of modern sporting rifles that are “Mass.

legal,” i.e., sold and possessed in compliance with the laws of the commonwealth. She is putting personal prejudices ahead of reality. This illegal behavior is supported by Beacon Hill bobbleheads and big-city politicians — those to whom power is more important than freedom and their oath of office.Look at the statistics: These rifles are hardly ever used in crimes, except by evil men in gun-free zones and in a few big cities where politicians are corrupt, crime and drug gangs are rampant, and existing gun laws are not enforced. It is these evil men that need controlling, not lawfully owned inanimate objects.

There are those who say that our Second Amendment freedoms do not apply to target practice. On the contrary, that is exactly what the term “well-regulated” meant back in the days when our Bill of Rights was written — practicing civilian marksmanship. A “well regulated militia” is ordinary citizens doing their target practice.

Now, if you were to visit any sportsmen’s club in the state, you would see that AR-type firearms are very popular. Whether just for fun, or in serious competition, smiling shooters and their friends and family are hitting the bull’s-eye with their AR’s. (AR, by the way stands for “Armalite rifle,” not “assault rifle.”)

The shooting sports are one place where shooters of all ages, genders and abilities can compete as truly equals, and safety is paramount. I myself have often shot in local matches alongside expert marksmen and women shooting near-perfect scores with their match-grade AR’s. Many of these same marksmen, who offer friendly advice and coaching to beginners, were just out at Camp Perry competing in the National Matches.

Whether you own a gun or not, your civil rights have been violated in this illegal action. In usurping the power of legitimate government to enforce her personal ideologies upon the citizenry, by putting politics above the God-given rights of man, our attorney general has shown herself to be unworthy of the office. She should resign in shame!

Art O’Leary is a Scoutmaster, engineer and president of Leominster Sportsmen’s Association.

Source : Sentinnel and Enterprise

wdmso
08-18-2016, 04:52 AM
:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

lie number 1: Taking away law abiding citizens' right to defend themselves

lie number 2 allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety .. been do it for 100 years not just Healy


truth:There is a process to law and Healy went right around agree

Have as many guns as you want they should be reregistered thats my stance ..

The Dad Fisherman
08-18-2016, 06:34 AM
lie number 2 allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety .. been do it for 100 years not just Healy ..

So then it's not a lie is it...just a continued truth.

Slipknot
08-18-2016, 09:10 AM
:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

lie number 1: Taking away law abiding citizens' right to defend themselves

lie number 2 allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety .. been do it for 100 years not just Healy


truth:There is a process to law and Healy went right around agree

Have as many guns as you want they should be reregistered thats my stance ..


Registration is a different subject but while you brought it up, I have no problem either with following the law as it is understood. I wonder where criminals stand on registration? hmmmm I bet they don't go along with that either. Registration is the first step to confiscation. If lawmakers or Judges remove the second amendment, they should be the ones who come to gun owners to try to take them away.


So my statement is a lie? "Taking away law abiding citizens' right to defend themselves while allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety if you ask me. "

or you are just picking pieces of it like spence does?

Healy's directive from July 20th takes away the ability to purchase a rifle that was legal to purchase before July 20th. Tell me more about how that is a lie.

I did not say Healy was the only one plea bargaining down gun charges which have a mandatory sentence. Not a lie. She is the AG, she doesn't prosecute, that is for District Attorneys as you well know. They use the mandatory sentence as a tool so their jobs are easier and less court battles. If thugs had to sit in jail, maybe there would be less incentive to a life of crime and less guns would be in demand on the street. Her directive did not get one gun off the street and she knows it. Political stunt that she has been and will be hammered on this as she constantly changes things and updates her Q&A and page about this. She has even gone so far as to post a tab for support so she can pat herself on the back :yak: Pathetic.
So what I am saying is she should stop violating civil rights and hurting families and business owners by her over-reach and actually enforce the laws that the State has given her like the mandatory time for unlawful possession. Stick them in jail, rehabilitate them. If that doesn't work then figure out something else but do not disarm we the people.

TheSpecialist
08-19-2016, 04:59 PM
:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

lie number 1: Taking away law abiding citizens' right to defend themselves

lie number 2 allowing criminals to plea bargain away jail sentences is not in the best interest of public safety .. been do it for 100 years not just Healy


truth:There is a process to law and Healy went right around agree

Have as many guns as you want they should be reregistered thats my stance ..

AG office has instantaneous access to the MIRCs list which is a registration list

Why should the government know which guns I have or do not have, as a law abiding gun owner?

They have no idea what guns a criminal has

ecduzitgood
08-22-2016, 06:05 AM
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/21/hillary-clinton-supporters-want-repeal-2nd-amendment-campus-reform-video-shows?ref=yfp
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wdmso
08-22-2016, 05:11 PM
AG office has instantaneous access to the MIRCs list which is a registration list

Why should the government know which guns I have or do not have, as a law abiding gun owner?

They have no idea what guns a criminal has

they should know which guns you have or do not have..

So when the criminal uses the gun you had.. but no one knew that it was stolen and not reported ... or sold in a straw purchase they or a legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers. sold it these are all ways bad guys get guns

they can ask about it

good article

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

spence
08-23-2016, 07:02 AM
they should know which guns you have or do not have..

So when the criminal uses the gun you had.. but no one knew that it was stolen and not reported ... or sold in a straw purchase they or a legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers. sold it these are all ways bad guys get guns

they can ask about it

good article

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html
The only solution is to arm everybody with millions of more guns and not keep track of any of them...that's about it.
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Nebe
08-23-2016, 07:10 AM
The only solution is to arm everybody with millions of more guns and not keep track of any of them...that's about it.
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That sounds about right. Crime would drop like a stone. However accidental deaths would go up.
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scottw
08-23-2016, 07:11 AM
[QUOTE=wdmso;1106775]they should know which knife you have or do not have..

So when the criminal uses the knife you had.. but no one knew that it was stolen and not reported ... or sold in a straw purchase they or a legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial knife dealers. sold it these are all ways bad guys get knives

they can ask about it

:)