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This right here is just one reason why trump is running for president. Free money. Not to mention free publicity. That's quite a rent hike!
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-raises-trump-tower-rent-campaign-headquarter-donations-flow-1577675
spence 08-24-2016, 07:53 AM Does this surprise you? My thought is a big reason he's not spending much campaign money is so he can pay himself back for the millions he's loaned his own campaign when he loses.
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scottw 08-24-2016, 08:13 AM Does this surprise you? My thought is a big reason he's not spending much campaign money is so he can pay himself back for the millions he's loaned his own campaign when he loses.
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:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
tysdad115 08-24-2016, 08:15 AM How many dead Americans because of this? None? Great, carry on. This pales in comparison to the other candidates favoritism of people who donated to her "foundation" for political access.
scottw 08-24-2016, 08:22 AM How many dead Americans because of this? None? Great, carry on. This pales in comparison to the other candidates favoritism of people who donated to her "foundation" for political access.
yes, lots of new news regarding this and not from the "International Business Times"
great thing about Bonnie and Clyde Clinton...they don't just know over the corner convenience store...the go BIG!! :shocked:
JohnR 08-24-2016, 09:12 AM Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
This is the Kobayashi Maru of presidential elections
scottw 08-24-2016, 09:50 AM Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
This is the Kobayashi Maru of presidential elections
totally agee...
but make the best of it...
if Trump wins.... it will be highly entertaining watching the libs and others move to Canada or lose their collectivist minds
if Hillary wins....it will be highly entertaining watching the Clinton's kick over every law, ethic and sense of decency and probably end up husband and wife disbarred and impeached POTUS'...first in history :heybaby:
win...win
Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
This is the Kobayashi Maru of presidential elections
I totally agree.
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spence 08-24-2016, 11:59 AM Speaking of scumbags I never even saw this.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-tweets-ebola-missionaries-must-suffer-the-consequences-of-traveling-to-liberia-124291/
I know a doctor who went to Liberia. Amazing guy.
scottw 08-25-2016, 04:21 AM Speaking of scumbags I never even saw this.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-tweets-ebola-missionaries-must-suffer-the-consequences-of-traveling-to-liberia-124291/
I know a doctor who went to Liberia. Amazing guy.
is this "fake news"?..I've never heard of the Christian Post
so he made the remarkable observation that doctors who travel to foreign countries and contract deadly diseases, know when they go there are possible consequences and if they do contract something like Ebola, they should be treated at the "highest level" over there rather than risk them coming back to the United States....
this does not make sense????
wdmso 08-25-2016, 04:47 AM How many dead Americans because of this? None? Great, carry on. This pales in comparison to the other candidates favoritism of people who donated to her "foundation" for political access.
still cant get over benghazi can you ... they died doing their Job they knew the risks and they got paid..
But god forbid some one highlight Trump paying Trump>>
a little quid pro quo which is in plan sight yet thats ok
yet cant show any quid pro quo with the foundation but insist its true?
wdmso 08-25-2016, 04:58 AM is this "fake news"?..I've never heard of the Christian Post
so he made the remarkable observation that doctors who travel to foreign countries and contract deadly diseases, know when they go there are possible consequences and if they do contract something like Ebola, they should be treated at the "highest level" over there rather than risk them coming back to the United States....
this does not make sense????
no he suggested we not help our own citizens who have gone to help
The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA infected people back. People that go to faraway places to help out are great – but must suffer the consequences!"
I can see treat people from that country in that country ..
But his statement is much different..
so with his logic an American service members or Americans who also went to set up filed hospitals or help can't come back to the USA for treatment out of Fear alone thats what bothers me .. but then again with out fear whats the right Got to run on?
scottw 08-25-2016, 05:06 AM still cant get over benghazi can you ... they died doing their Job they knew the risks and they got paid.. they paid the price for incompetence
But god forbid some one highlight Trump paying Trump>> thought you'd categorize this as free market and supply and demand
a little quid pro quo which is in plan sight yet thats ok better than having to drag it out with years of court filings
yet cant show any quid pro quo with the foundation but insist its true?
it's the Clinton's...of course it's true....it would be surprising and completely out of character if they were not treading illegality :hihi:
scottw 08-25-2016, 05:11 AM no he suggested we not help our own citizens who have gone to help "treat them at the highest levels over there"
The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA infected people back. People that go to faraway places to help out are great – but must suffer the consequences!"
I can see treat people from that country in that country ..
But his statement is much different..
so with his logic an American service members or Americans who also went to set up filed hospitals or help can't come back to the USA for treatment out of Fear alone thats what bothers me .. but then again with out fear whats the right Got to run on?
don't think he said this...
Raider Ronnie 08-25-2016, 05:58 AM So Trump is a Sleazbag for raising rent on a bunch of millionaires in a building HE owns.
Guess liberal senators daughter Heather Bresch, CEO of Mylan pharmaceutical is a good person.
#^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hippocrates !
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-epipen-ceo-bresch-salary-20160824-story.html
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Rockfish9 08-25-2016, 06:29 AM Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
This is the Kobayashi Maru of presidential elections
most reasonable thing I've heard in a long time... Ones a clown.. the other is a self absorbed thief....what's next big foot for president. The circus surrounding it would be no different.
So Trump is a Sleazbag for raising rent on a bunch of millionaires in a building HE owns.
Guess liberal senators daughter Heather Bresch, CEO of Mylan pharmaceutical is a good person.
#^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hippocrates !
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-epipen-ceo-bresch-salary-20160824-story.html
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He quadrupled the rent that his campaign pays him just before he started receiving public donations.
That's why he is a sleaze bag. Or jus one of many reasons.
You want this clown In charge of our military ??
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scottw 08-25-2016, 06:59 AM He quadrupled the rent that his campaign pays him just before he started receiving public donations.
That's why he is a sleaze bag. Or jus one of many reasons.
You want this clown In charge of our military ??
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just read an interesting article regarding the "firm" that Bernie had handling all of his 90 million in ads placment etc.....lots of questions?????
PaulS 08-25-2016, 08:44 AM He quadrupled the rent that his campaign pays him just before he started receiving public donations.
That's why he is a sleaze bag. Or jus one of many reasons.
You want this clown In charge of our military ??
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But it is Trump so no big deal.
scottw 08-25-2016, 09:54 AM But it is Trump so no big deal.
actually...if you think about it...this is exactly how things are done in the public sector....so maybe he's just preparing for life as a "public servant"...:uhuh:
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2016, 03:12 PM So Trump is a Sleazbag for raising rent on a bunch of millionaires in a building HE owns.
Guess liberal senators daughter Heather Bresch, CEO of Mylan pharmaceutical is a goo upd person.
#^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hippocrates !
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-epipen-ceo-bresch-salary-20160824-story.html
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Nope, she is a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& too. The actual medicine in an epipen costs about a buck. Trust me, I buy a couple a year for the kids.... This sucks.
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buckman 08-25-2016, 04:55 PM He quadrupled the rent that his campaign pays him just before he started receiving public donations.
That's why he is a sleaze bag. Or jus one of many reasons.
You want this clown In charge of our military ??
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Does anyone here know what the going rent for that much square footage in a prime location actually is or are we all just arm chair NY real estate experts . Maybe he actually gave a discounted rate at the beginning .
This is BS
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buckman 08-25-2016, 04:58 PM Nope, she is a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& too. The actual medicine in an epipen costs about a buck. Trust me, I buy a couple a year for the kids.... This sucks.
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Why is Trump scum again ? As Spence would like to say where is the "evidence"
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RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2016, 05:10 PM Why is Trump scum again ? As Spence would like to say where is the "evidence"
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He is scamming the campaign system, which of course the Clintons probably too. Look at the amount of donations spent, and where the funds go. Much of it circles back to trump, family and friends
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RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2016, 05:12 PM Why is Trump scum again ? As Spence would like to say where is the "evidence"
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And that is leaving off the three marriages, particularly the first divorce where he blatantly paraded his mistress around town. That plus the reprehensible things he has said and now is walking back. Oh, and mocking McCain, mocking a disabled reporter... . Etc etc etc. .
I am not a huge Clinton fan by any stretch, I wanted biden to run...
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JohnR 08-25-2016, 06:07 PM He quadrupled the rent that his campaign pays him just before he started receiving public donations.
That's why he is a sleaze bag. Or jus one of many reasons.
You want this clown In charge of our military ??
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You mean the Joe Biden renting house back to guvmint?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-update-hes-charging-secret-service-rent-for-cottage-to-protect-him.html
Jim in CT 08-25-2016, 06:26 PM Nope, she is a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& too. The actual medicine in an epipen costs about a buck. Trust me, I buy a couple a year for the kids.... This sucks.
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That really stinks, hope it works out to not cost you that much somehow...
RIROCKHOUND 08-25-2016, 06:47 PM You mean the Joe Biden renting house back to guvmint?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-update-hes-charging-secret-service-rent-for-cottage-to-protect-him.html
So, I don't know, how common is it for the SS to rent the house next door ? I am not excusing but that is different, unless video was renting it for 800 and then decided to charge the SS 2200.
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JohnR 08-25-2016, 06:57 PM So, I don't know, how common is it for the SS to rent the house next door ? I am not excusing but that is different, unless video was renting it for 800 and then decided to charge the SS 2200.
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2k per month but the same as the previous tenant - not excusing Trump - my disdain for him is well known
Raider Ronnie 08-25-2016, 07:17 PM Nope, she is a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& too. The actual medicine in an epipen costs about a buck. Trust me, I buy a couple a year for the kids.... This sucks.
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My younger son has allergies and my wife carries one everywhere, school has one, all sports programs,.......
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spence 08-26-2016, 01:00 AM 2k per month but the same as the previous tenant - not excusing Trump - my disdain for him is well known
Come one, not apples to apples and you know this.
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JohnR 08-26-2016, 07:23 AM Come one, not apples to apples and you know this.
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You are correct, my disdain for Hillary may even surpass my disdain for Trump.
You are correct, my disdain for Hillary may even surpass my disdain for Trump.
Bend over and lube yourself up for at least 4 years of disdain
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FishermanTim 08-26-2016, 10:19 AM Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
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Neither Candidate is acceptable.
This is the Kobayashi Maru of presidential elections
That is probably the BEST analogy yet!
The next best might be" Voting for the lesser of two evils".
It all boils down to your own personal preference:
Do you want the crook or the clown.
Would you rather laugh for 4 years or cry????
Raider Ronnie 08-26-2016, 12:44 PM Such a lady !!!
The real Hillary.... Her actual words:
1) "Where is the God damn flag? I want the God damn #^&#^&#^&#^&ing flag up every morning at #^&#^&#^&#^&ing sunrise". Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day 1991. From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244
(2) "#^&#^&#^&#^& off! It's enough I have to see you #^&#^&#^&#^&-kickers every day! I'm not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut." Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning." From the book "America Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p.90
(3) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your #^&#^&#^&#^&ing ass over here and grab those bags!" Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. From the book "The First Partner" p. 25
(4) "Stay the #^&#^&#^&#^& back, stay the #^&#^&#^&#^& back away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just #^&#^&#^&#^&ing do as I say, Okay!!?" Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail. From the book "Unlimited Access" by Clinton 's FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldridge, p.139
(5) "Where's the miserable cock sucker?" (otherwise known as "Bill Clinton") Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer. From the book "The Truth about Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5
(6) "You #^&#^&#^&#^&ing idiot" Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event. From the book "Crossfire" ~pg. 84
(7) "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those #^&#^&#^&#^&ing sunglasses! We need to go back!†Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while in route to Air Force One. From the book " Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72
(8) "Come on Bill, put your #^&#^&#^&#^& up! You can't #^&#^&#^&#^& her here!!" Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female. From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243
There it is ........book, chapter and page.......the real Hillary Rotten Clinton!
Additionally, when she walked around the White House, NO ONE was permitted to look her in the eye, they all had to lower their heads with their eyes towards the ground whenever she walked by. Clearly she is a class act!
This ill-tempered, violent, loud-mouth, hateful and abusive woman wants to be your next President, and have total control as Commander-in-Chief of our Military, the very Military for which she has shown incredible disdain throughout her public life .
Remember her most vile comment about Benghazi: "What difference at this point does it make?"
Now it will be clear why the crew of "Marine One" helicopter nick-named the craft, "Broomstick ONE " - courtesy of Christina Plantz
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spence 08-26-2016, 12:49 PM Such a lady !!!
The real Hillary.... Her actual words:
I would think Trump people would lap this stuff up. It's made up, offensive and on the surface looks like tough talk, just like his BS.
buckman 08-26-2016, 01:53 PM I would think Trump people would lap this stuff up. It's made up, offensive and on the surface looks like tough talk, just like his BS.
Oh it offensive 😂
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Raider Ronnie 08-26-2016, 02:32 PM I would think Trump people would lap this stuff up. It's made up, offensive and on the surface looks like tough talk, just like his BS.
I think you dream about Lapping up Obama's ball bag.
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PaulS 08-26-2016, 02:41 PM I would think Trump people would lap this stuff up. It's made up, offensive and on the surface looks like tough talk, just like his BS.
I think it is a reflection on our education system.
I heard Hillary was fired from the Watergate investigative committee for lying and being unethical.
RIROCKHOUND 08-26-2016, 02:49 PM I think you dream about Lapping up Obama's ball bag.
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Classy.
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PaulS 08-26-2016, 02:57 PM Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise."
While this quote is included in more than one book about the Clintons, its original source was a January 1994 American Spectator article by David Brock, who interviewed four state troopers who had worked for the Clintons while Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas. The quote was taken from information provided by Arkansas state trooper Larry Patterson.
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But in 1998, David Brock himself expressed skepticism about the validity of some of the claims he made in his American Spectator "Troopergate" article and doubts about the truthfulness of the sources he depended on for it:
I guess that I should confess that as the author of the infamous piece, I think "proving Troopergate" may be a tall order. I was as sure of that story when I wrote it as any journalist can be of any story. But in the years since then, the troopers have greatly damaged their credibility.
I'm sure you remember that during the Senate Whitewater hearings, the troopers made fools of themselves with improbable claims about the circumstances of Vincent Foster's death. One of the two troopers who went on the record with me, Larry Patterson, helped promote the infamous Clinton Chronicles, a crackpot video accusing of drug running and murder. Patterson was also recently cited as a source for The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, by British journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard. So I've had occasional pangs of doubt: Is it possible that they took me for a ride, embellishing their account for fame and fortune?
PaulS 08-26-2016, 02:58 PM Classy.
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He aught to atleast give the author credit for writing that rather than plagerizing it.
Raider Ronnie 08-26-2016, 03:03 PM Classy.
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Offended, you another faggot like Spence ???
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buckman 08-26-2016, 03:29 PM I think it is a reflection on our education system.
I heard Hillary was fired from the Watergate investigative committee for lying and being unethical.
I heard Trump is a racist .
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PaulS 08-26-2016, 03:33 PM I certainly believe he is. I saw some poles that said a good % of Repubs. believe that also.
RIROCKHOUND 08-26-2016, 03:34 PM Offended, you another faggot like Spence ???
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Did I say I was offended?
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spence 08-26-2016, 06:15 PM Offended, you another faggot like Spence ???
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With every post you evidence your own worth.
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With every post you evidence your own worth.
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i know right? If there's one thing Trump has been successful at, it's letting all the mental midgets, the mouth breathers, the biggits, the racists, the uneducated come out and be loud and proud. Maybe this is just a huge social experiment?
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detbuch 08-26-2016, 10:08 PM i know right? If there's one thing Trump has been successful at, it's letting all the mental midgets, the mouth breathers, the biggits, the racists, the uneducated come out and be loud and proud. Maybe this is just a huge social experiment?
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You sound a bit like Trump. But he does it better. You did manage here to implement portions or all of numbers 2, 3, 5, 10, and 12 of Alynski's Rules For Radicals. But Spence is really better at using those Rules than you are.
Keep at it, though. You're getting there.
scottw 08-27-2016, 04:16 AM I know right?.....pretty sure it's the Hillary, Obama, Bernie voters that are regularly in the news for property damage, assaults on fellow citizens, shooting cops, disrupting the lives of others, showing up where they weren't invited or aren't really welcome and causing other such mayhem :huh:
but that's all excusable in the quest for social justice:agree:
and then there's this :rotf2:
A liberal journalist who has moderated forums hosted by the Clinton Global Initiative offered a brutal takedown of the organization, describing it as “creepy,” “disgusting” and “gross.”
Adam Davidson, who hosts a show for NPR and has written for New York Magazine, also said during an appearance on Slate’s “Political Gabfest” podcast this week, that the Bill and Hillary Clinton-controlled group’s events are “all about buying access.”
And later in the podcast, he said that the Clinton Foundation has made the Clintons “beholden to scumbags.”
has this guy just arrived on the planet? Does he remember the first Clinton Presidency???? selling the Lincoln Bedroom for contributions, "No controlling legal authority"......Cash from Commies???? Charlie Trie and Johnny Huang???
one thing that is consistent with the Clintons over time is they've never changed...........the list of dead, indicted, fled, resigned, tainted and corrupted just grows....
scottw 08-27-2016, 05:51 AM You did manage here to implement portions or all of numbers 2, 3, 5, 10, and 12 of Alynski's Rules For Radicals. But Spence is really better at using those Rules than you are.
Keep at it, though. You're getting there.
one of Alynski's rules is to hold your "enemy" to their own high standards while kicking them in the nuts....or something like that....
as so often repeated here....not a big Trump fan...but I refuse to hold him to higher standards that the democrats hold their politicians to...which is basically no standards at this point....
Ok you guys are right. Let's keep calling spence a faggot.
My bad.
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scottw 08-27-2016, 08:09 AM Ok you guys are right. Let's keep calling spence a faggot.
My bad.
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Spence is a big boy....he's lobbed his share of insults(nut kicks)
sticks and stones from Bernie/Hillary/Obama supporters may break some bones....but names....now that's beyond the pale:laughs:
spence 08-27-2016, 08:47 AM Spence is a big boy....he's lobbed his share of insults(nut kicks)
I think you'd find my list of insults is pretty short and stops far short of remarks like the one above. While I'm above it the very presence of such profanity does degrade the site and shows significant disrespect to it's host.
detbuch 08-27-2016, 09:27 AM I think you'd find my list of insults is pretty short and stops far short of remarks like the one above. While I'm above it the very presence of such profanity does degrade the site and shows significant disrespect to it's host.
Yes, how dare someone degrade the site and disrespect its host by repeating the disrespectable and degrading words that Hillary is reported to have said.
PaulS 08-27-2016, 01:23 PM What does Saul say about snarky people?
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JohnR 08-27-2016, 02:02 PM Offended, you another faggot like Spence ???
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Ron - roll it back please.
JohnR 08-27-2016, 02:15 PM Spence is a big boy....he's lobbed his share of insults(nut kicks)
sticks and stones from Bernie/Hillary/Obama supporters may break some bones....but names....now that's beyond the pale:laughs:
But Spence calls it strategic percussive wallops to the jollies.
Short version - you can find many 2 minutes of hate from both sides. But the left is allowed to paint the broad brush of racism and and intolerance on anyone that does not agree with them.
If you are against illegal immigration but support legal immigration and immigrants - you are a racist.
If you believe in law and order and personal responsibility - you are a racist.
If you embrace merit and character over diversity, you are a racist.
If you believe all lives matter - you are a racist.
If you support the Constitutions, Liberty, and individualism, you are a gun clinging bible thumping racist.
Why I am no longer a Democrat - the Dems and Progressives require a "do as I say" and are generally anti-liberty.
I despise Donald Trump but I despise culticollectivist patchouli reeking safe spacers far more and they are a greater danger to our Country.
detbuch 08-27-2016, 04:31 PM But Spence calls it strategic percussive wallops to the jollies.
Short version - you can find many 2 minutes of hate from both sides. But the left is allowed to paint the broad brush of racism and and intolerance on anyone that does not agree with them.
If you are against illegal immigration but support legal immigration and immigrants - you are a racist.
If you believe in law and order and personal responsibility - you are a racist.
If you embrace merit and character over diversity, you are a racist.
If you believe all lives matter - you are a racist.
If you support the Constitutions, Liberty, and individualism, you are a gun clinging bible thumping racist.
Why I am no longer a Democrat - the Dems and Progressives require a "do as I say" and are generally anti-liberty.
I despise Donald Trump but I despise culticollectivist patchouli reeking safe spacers far more and they are a greater danger to our Country.
Well said. I agree with all that. Wasn't sure until I looked up patchouli. Agree 100%
spence 08-27-2016, 05:03 PM But Spence calls it strategic percussive wallops to the jollies.
Short version - you can find many 2 minutes of hate from both sides. But the left is allowed to paint the broad brush of racism and and intolerance on anyone that does not agree with them.
If you are against illegal immigration but support legal immigration and immigrants - you are a racist.
If you believe in law and order and personal responsibility - you are a racist.
If you embrace merit and character over diversity, you are a racist.
If you believe all lives matter - you are a racist.
If you support the Constitutions, Liberty, and individualism, you are a gun clinging bible thumping racist.
Why I am no longer a Democrat - the Dems and Progressives require a "do as I say" and are generally anti-liberty.
I despise Donald Trump but I despise culticollectivist patchouli reeking safe spacers far more and they are a greater danger to our Country.
Dramatic oversimplification, aside from the despising Trump part.
detbuch 08-27-2016, 07:01 PM Dramatic oversimplification, aside from the despising Trump part.
Dramatic simplification, including the despising Trump part. Fixed it.
The Dad Fisherman 08-27-2016, 08:06 PM But Spence calls it strategic percussive wallops to the jollies.
Short version - you can find many 2 minutes of hate from both sides. But the left is allowed to paint the broad brush of racism and and intolerance on anyone that does not agree with them.
If you are against illegal immigration but support legal immigration and immigrants - you are a racist.
If you believe in law and order and personal responsibility - you are a racist.
If you embrace merit and character over diversity, you are a racist.
If you believe all lives matter - you are a racist.
If you support the Constitutions, Liberty, and individualism, you are a gun clinging bible thumping racist.
Why I am no longer a Democrat - the Dems and Progressives require a "do as I say" and are generally anti-liberty.
I despise Donald Trump but I despise culticollectivist patchouli reeking safe spacers far more and they are a greater danger to our Country.
If you are white, you are a racist.
If you are over 50, you are a racist.
If you are black, you can never be a racist....
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JohnR 08-27-2016, 09:27 PM If you are white, you are a racist.
If you are over 50, you are a racist.
If you are black, you can never be a racist....
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Unless you are a Progressive, then you hold the handle of the broad brush.
scottw 08-28-2016, 12:59 PM But Spence calls it strategic percussive wallops to the jollies.
that was hysterical....and Spence would argue it's completely "above the belt" when done in his context
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