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ecduzitgood
09-21-2016, 06:55 AM
Good guy with gun stops Somalian with on a stabbing spree.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/09/19/uspsa-shooter-nra-instructor-shot-killed-somali-man-on-stabbing-rampage/?ref=yfp

tysdad115
09-21-2016, 10:30 AM
Didn't miss it. This is the stuff they don't want you to see therefore it gets buried. Selective media control Ed, you should be used to it by now.

spence
09-21-2016, 11:25 AM
Guy is a cop and highly skilled marksman. That's not your average CCW.

ecduzitgood
09-21-2016, 12:09 PM
Guy is a cop and highly skilled marksman. That's not your average CCW. That is your opinion. In my opinion, other folks who have guns actually spend time practicing. How often do we hear about people trying to stop a crime with a gun and they kill innocent people without any legal consequences?
You look at good guys with guns as some sort of epidemic or danger to society and yet there is seldom an issue. It is not the good guys you have to worry about.
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The Dad Fisherman
09-21-2016, 12:26 PM
Guy is a cop and highly skilled marksman. That's not your average CCW.

So???

BigBo
09-21-2016, 12:37 PM
Guy is a cop and highly skilled marksman. That's not your average CCW.

What's your point with this statement?

Sea Dangles
09-21-2016, 12:39 PM
The point TDF is trying to make is that could have been any ordinary citizen who decides to exercise their right to carry. It may require more bullets, but I am not sure Juniors karate would be an effective substitute.
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buckman
09-21-2016, 12:47 PM
Guy is a cop and highly skilled marksman. That's not your average CCW.

I'll translate ... Only certain people that meet Spence's criteria have the right to self defense .
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BigBo
09-21-2016, 02:21 PM
The point TDF is trying to make is that could have been any ordinary citizen who decides to exercise their right to carry. It may require more bullets, but I am not sure Juniors karate would be an effective substitute.
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I was questioning spence's statement. Not TDF.

BigBo
09-21-2016, 02:22 PM
I'll translate ... Only certain people that meet Spence's criteria have the right to self defense .
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I suspect this is the answer.

wdmso
09-21-2016, 02:27 PM
Just Another needle in a haystack comparison trying to get passed along as more guns equal less crime ..

I would applaud any one who would have stopped the guy not matter how they did it gun or Mop ringer

Jim in CT
09-21-2016, 02:39 PM
Just Another needle in a haystack comparison trying to get passed along as more guns equal less crime ..

I would applaud any one who would have stopped the guy not matter how they did it gun or Mop ringer

Well, I'm not sure that more guns always equals more crime. In North Dakota, gun ownership is high, gun violence is about zero. So instead of making fun of people who live there as "bitter clingers" and "deplorable", maybe Obama and Hilary should be suggesting that we all treat others the way people in the Dakotas do.

But we can't do that, cuz it doesn't support The Narrative.

Does more gun control reduce crime? The citizens of Chicago will be glad to hear it, if that's the case.

The guns are already out there. If we could get rid of all guns (set the constitution aside), there would be less gun crime. But we can't.

Sea Dangles
09-21-2016, 02:44 PM
I was questioning spence's statement. Not TDF.

Why would ask for his opinion about anything?
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tysdad115
09-21-2016, 02:45 PM
A former police chief , now a part time patrol officer who also participates in USPSA and 3gun matches. But liberals still try to justify "he's a cop". Well I''ve shot with quite a few LEO some are good others not so much...we shoot quite a bit of all forms of action pistol including IDPA,USPSA and 3Gun. If anyone is interested in learning anything about any of these I'd be happy to show you.

This is Tyler shooting in the USPSA Area 7 match in Augusta,Maine this year. Not that I'd ever anticipate anything ever happening but in todays world it doesn't hurt to be ready. I'd much rather have this kid with a gun than call 911 and hope someone gets there in time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jxTkowccmw

The Dad Fisherman
09-21-2016, 03:13 PM
Just Another needle in a haystack comparison trying to get passed along as more guns equal less crime ..


Funny how when its a good guy with a gun its just a needle in a haystack"

but when its a Bad guy with a gun....in the SAME haystack....its a call for stricter gun control and to change the 2nd amendment.

spence
09-21-2016, 04:54 PM
Funny how when its a good guy with a gun its just a needle in a haystack"

but when its a Bad guy with a gun....in the SAME haystack....its a call for stricter gun control and to change the 2nd amendment.
I think his point was that non-LEO good guys with guns stopping violent crime doesn't have enough statistical significance to claim it's a valid strategy to inhibit violent crime.

I also don't understand how under the radical liberal anti-gun Obama freedom for carry has gone up if the call is for stricter gun control and a dismantling of the 2nd amendment.

Are you upside down on both aspects?

The Dad Fisherman
09-21-2016, 07:43 PM
I think his point was that non-LEO good guys with guns stopping violent crime doesn't have enough statistical significance to claim it's a valid strategy to inhibit violent crime.

I also don't understand how under the radical liberal anti-gun Obama freedom for carry has gone up if the call is for stricter gun control and a dismantling of the 2nd amendment.

Are you upside down on both aspects?

But a bad guy with an illegally procured gun, that goes on a rampage, has enough statistical significance to claim it's a valid strategy to inhibit violent crime?

They're both one needle in the same haystack of 333,000,000 needles.

And you can comprehend that "the call for" and "passing laws for" aren't the same thing?
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