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ecduzitgood
09-22-2016, 05:34 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/hunt-underway-for-motorcyclists-who-surrounded-maryland-state-troopers-suv-on-beltway/2016/09/21/611338e4-7fed-11e6-8d13-d7c704ef9fd9_story.html?ref=yfp

Maybe this non Caucasian has a point or maybe he is a racist.

https://youtu.be/U2w9hRrtGDM

Jim in CT
09-22-2016, 05:46 AM
Lack of thoughtfulness and honesty are pre-requisites to embrace liberalism.

These people would not actually prefer if the Charlotte police officer was the one killed. They get more upset at what appears (need to investigate) to be a justified shooting.

ecduzitgood
09-22-2016, 06:37 AM
Oops mixed up my clipboard links.. I meant to post this video.
https://youtu.be/wDZ2Mx8zKP0
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 06:41 AM
Lack of thoughtfulness and honesty are pre-requisites to embrace liberalism.



I agree - and lack of empathy and compassion for anyone less fortunate than themselves (and throw in a little racism) are are pre-requisites to embrace conservatism.

buckman
09-22-2016, 06:50 AM
I agree - and lack of empathy and compassion for anyone less fortunate than themselves (and throw in a little racism) are are pre-requisites to embrace conservatism.

You prove your ignorance and intolerance with every post . As a for instance, don't let the fact that conservatives , as a whole , donate more of their income to help those less fortunate, than do liberals get in the way of your narrative .
The #^&#^&#^&#^& you and others spew is exactly why we have a growing racial divide .
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 07:02 AM
You prove your ignorance and intolerance with every post . As a for instance, don't let the fact that conservatives , as a whole , donate more of their income to help those less fortunate, than do liberals get in the way of your narrative .
The #^&#^&#^&#^& you and others spew is exactly why we have a growing racial divide .
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I was going to mention having anger issues also - see above post.

Racial divide - is that why people here mention something about blacks in almost every thread?

ecduzitgood
09-22-2016, 07:06 AM
I think this is the video he referred to getting death threats over.
https://youtu.be/qxVr4O68ofk
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The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 07:08 AM
Well, you're the first one to mention it in this thread...
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The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 07:10 AM
Funny how Kaepernick and the other athletes taking a knee are doing so because they believe a conversation needs to happen....and when someone starts the conversation they get labeled a racist.
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buckman
09-22-2016, 07:12 AM
I was going to mention having anger issues also - see above post.

Racial divide - is that why people here mention something about blacks in almost every thread?

Ohhhh now we have anger issues too ....lmao
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ecduzitgood
09-22-2016, 07:17 AM
I like what this Tj guy has to say, but I worry I will be labeled a racist for saying so. Thank god for the first amendment.
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 07:29 AM
Well, you're the first one to mention it in this thread...
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See first post. And it was just an observation.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 07:30 AM
Ohhhh now we have anger issues too ....lmao
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Go look at your first post. That isn't having anger issues?

:hihi:

detbuch
09-22-2016, 07:42 AM
"Anger issues" is a Democrat meme used to splash negative verbal paint on socalled "conservatives. Anger is perfectly fine for Democrats when it is expressed, even violently, by leftist "protesters." When Republicans express anger, even simply by stating their opinion, it becomes an "issue."

Jim in CT
09-22-2016, 07:49 AM
I agree - and lack of empathy and compassion for anyone less fortunate than themselves (and throw in a little racism) are are pre-requisites to embrace conservatism.

See, here's the thing...I can fill the oceans with facts that support my conclusion that liberalism requires thoughtlessness and dishonesty (if you don't believe me, look at what's happening in Charlotte right now, listen to what your side is saying, compared to what my side is saying). You can never support your claim that conservatives lack empathy. In fact, that you keep saying that, is proving my point. There is data to suggest that conservatives are at least as generous as liberals. Common sense also suggests that is true. But you ignore all that, for the sake of protecting your agenda.

Liberals want to give blacks just enough table scraps to keep them alive (if they are kept poor, they will still vote for Democrats). Conservatives want blacks to feel genuine success. Somehow, that makes me racist.

Conservatives want to give poor blacks the choice to send their kids to schools that work. Liberals want to deny them that choice. But my side is racist?

Do I have that right?

Please tell me Paul, other than the fact that people like you keep saying it, WHAT IS IT ABOUT CONSERVATIVISM, THAT IS RACIST? You can't prove I ma racist because Rachael Maddow and Al Sharpton say so. Pick a true conservative principle, and explain how it's racist, and we can discuss. Or kindly admit that you have zero evidence.

buckman
09-22-2016, 07:51 AM
Go look at your first post. That isn't having anger issues?

:hihi:

You want maybe I sugar coat it to make you feel better ?
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Jim in CT
09-22-2016, 07:56 AM
don't let the fact that conservatives , as a whole , donate more of their income to help those less fortunate, than do liberals get in the way of your narrative .
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They ignore all facts that reject The Narrative. That's why I say you can't be liberal if you are honest and thoughtful. It's simply not possible.

Here is the study that you and I refer to, published in that right-wing rag called the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0

"households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

Other research has reached similar conclusions. The “generosity index” from the Catalogue for Philanthropy typically finds that red states are the most likely to give to nonprofits, while Northeastern states are least likely to do so."

Not all conservatives are generous, not all liberals are stingy. My point is that neither side can claim to have a monopoly on compassion. So when people like Paul claim that conservatives have no empathy, they are making fools of themselves. If they keep saying it enough, I guess it is assumed to be true. But a tiny speck of intellectual honesty, exposes this liberal myth for what it is - made up jibberish that is designed to cancel the debate, rather than to win the debate.

This is a political platform that literally requires dishonesty and thoughtlessness.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 08:02 AM
You want maybe I sugar coat it to make you feel better ?
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You can say it any way you want. I was just pointing it out.

The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 08:02 AM
See first post. And it was just an observation.

the first time the word "Blacks" was used in this thread was by you.

buckman
09-22-2016, 08:22 AM
the first time the word "Blacks" was used in this thread was by you.

Paul has an uncanny ability to read between the lines 👍
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 08:40 AM
the first time the word "Blacks" was used in this thread was by you.

Touche.

I guess I should have said "Non Caucasion".

I wonder if any other active threads are discussing blacks right now?

The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 08:56 AM
Touche.

I guess I should have said "Non Caucasion".?

well if we wanted to be inclusive that would include Asians. :hee:

I wonder if any other active threads are discussing blacks right now?

Well, considering with the riots going on right now, there probably are. Since the riots are based on Racial tensions, again, there probably are. Doesn't mean anybody doing the posting is racist.

This is the dialog that all those athletes are taking a knee over.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 09:53 AM
Doesn't mean anybody doing the posting is racist.

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I don't recall claiming anyone doing the posting was racist. I don't normally make those broad leaps.

Now Jim is another issue. He sees something he doesn't like, it is somehow always the Liberal's fault.

Jim in CT
09-22-2016, 10:03 AM
I don't recall claiming anyone doing the posting was racist. I don't normally make those broad leaps.

Now Jim is another issue. He sees something he doesn't like, it is somehow always the Liberal's fault.

"I don't normally make those broad leaps."

Well, you took home the gold when you said racism was a pre-requisite to embrace conservatism.

Is there anything you can point to, to support that?

"He sees something he doesn't like, it is somehow always the Liberal's fault"

Not always, Paul. But when they are in charge, and results are horrible, is it unfair if I look for a connection? Especially when the vast majority of the places they control, are in lousy economic shape, and moral shape too?

Who is rioting in NC right now, and why? Is the Tea Party burning and looting? Or is it blacks, who have been told by liberals for years that all of their suffering is because of the white power structure?

Hilary is calling for police reform. The problem is, the vast majority of the problem isn't with the police, it's with the black communities they serve. But Hilary will not say that out loud, because it doesn't help her win the election, and that's all that matters.

The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 10:04 AM
I don't recall claiming anyone doing the posting was racist. I don't normally make those broad leaps.


This is a pretty broad leap if you ask me

I agree - and lack of empathy and compassion for anyone less fortunate than themselves (and throw in a little racism) are are pre-requisites to embrace conservatism.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 10:05 AM
I make an exception for this forum in my posting.

I'm sure those people rioting are reliable voters.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 10:07 AM
This is a pretty broad leap if you ask me

As I just said, I make an exception for this forum.

I was gonna edit my post as I figured you would say that.;):love:

Jim in CT
09-22-2016, 10:45 AM
As I just said, I make an exception for this forum.

I was gonna edit my post as I figured you would say that.;):love:

Can you point to a single conservative policy ( a real policy that most conservatives really do endorse) that's racist? And explain why it's racist?

If you pick voter id cards, you have to tell us why it's harder for blacks to get those cards, than it is for whites.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 10:51 AM
Can you point to a single conservative policy ( a real policy that most conservatives really do endorse) that's racist? And explain why it's racist?

If you pick voter id cards, you have to tell us why it's harder for blacks to get those cards, than it is for whites.

We already discussed that before. I'll offer the same thing as before. If I show you a link to those discussions, you refrain from posting in that thread anymore.

Otherwise we go back and forth.

And yes, I believe that law was done for racist reasons.

ecduzitgood
09-22-2016, 10:59 AM
We already discussed that before. I'll offer the same thing as before. If I show you a link to those discussions, you refrain from posting in that thread anymore.

Otherwise we go back and forth.

And yes, I believe that law was done for racist reasons.
But wouldn't every race have to have an ID, what are you trying to say about blacks compared to other races. I consider them equals, apparently you don't.
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 11:02 AM
But wouldn't every race have to have an ID, what are you trying to say about blacks compared to other races. I consider them equals, apparently you don't.
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Kevin is going to get mad at you for that post - calling someone a racist.

The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 11:17 AM
I'm very capable of separating Sarcasm from true sentiment...

Sarcasm is my true medium

scottw
09-22-2016, 11:29 AM
hey....if Hillary is elected.....is it going to be POTUS and SCROTUS?

buckman
09-22-2016, 11:36 AM
And yes, I believe that law was done for racist reasons.

That's because you see racism everywhere . You seem to have a tremendous amount of white guilt . Did your family own a plantation or something?
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 12:02 PM
That's because you see racism everywhere . You seem to have a tremendous amount of white guilt . Did your family own a plantation or something?
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Good one.

Nebe
09-22-2016, 01:02 PM
That's because you see racism everywhere . You seem to have a tremendous amount of white guilt . Did your family own a plantation or something?
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Mine did. :smokin:
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spence
09-22-2016, 01:18 PM
As a for instance, don't let the fact that conservatives , as a whole , donate more of their income to help those less fortunate, than do liberals get in the way of your narrative
This was studied by political scientists at MIT a few years back and they found charitable donations were about the same but the motivations were different.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033

PaulS
09-22-2016, 01:29 PM
This was studied by political scientists at MIT a few years back and they found charitable donations were about the same but the motivations were different.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033

I've discussed this a few times and don't bother any more. I know that my own personal donations consist of about 30-40% going to my church. We have a gorious hall and are building a gym.

PaulS
09-22-2016, 01:30 PM
Mine did. :smokin:
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I think mine might of been shoe cobblers or goat farmers.

Nebe
09-22-2016, 01:41 PM
I think mine might of been shoe cobblers or goat farmers.

My 16th great grandfather founded southold NY with 12 others back in 1640 something. It was the first English speaking town in New York.
He was a baker and possibly a brewer. :cheers:
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PaulS
09-22-2016, 01:45 PM
Too bad he didn't buy a bunch of land.

The Dad Fisherman
09-22-2016, 01:54 PM
This was studied by political scientists at MIT a few years back and they found charitable donations were about the same but the motivations were different.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033

MIT??? The paper you posted was written by people from U of Pennsylvania and U of Memphis.

Nebe
09-22-2016, 01:59 PM
Too bad he didn't buy a bunch of land.
He did. He owned half the town. There's geographic areas named after him
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buckman
09-22-2016, 02:14 PM
[QUOTE=spence;1108962]This was studied by political scientists at MIT a few years back and they found charitable donations were about the same but the motivations were different.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033[/QUOTE

Yes donators to the Clinton Foudation have different motivations
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scottw
09-22-2016, 02:23 PM
impressive list of dirtbags and nare-do-wells speaking at their annual "Celebrate Us" Gala the other night too...

ecduzitgood
09-23-2016, 12:12 AM
Maybe it's the Obama DOJ

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/09/22/send-em-back-doj-sends-same-unit-to-charlotte-that-helped-ferguson-baltimore-rioters-organize/?ref=yfp
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