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nightfighter
05-18-2017, 05:44 PM
Supposed to be a banner year for ticks, and a second disease spread by them, this one potentially deadly.
So what are you loading up with to protect yourselves and families?
I got some Repel wipes and their sportsmen MAX spray with 40% DEET.
Also ordered SAWYER® Premium Clothing Insect Repellent,Permethrin 24 oz Trigger Spray to soak clothing and waders.
Saw a contractor yesterday who had two nasty holes in his arm and leg where he had removed ticks.....

JohnR
05-18-2017, 06:13 PM
"SAWYER® Premium Clothing Insect Repellent"

Never heard of it - gets good reviews - will check it out - thanks

bloocrab
05-18-2017, 07:47 PM
Nah....don't waste money on any of that stuff....

Have your sweetie or better half give you a full body scan in the nude.


Then take off your clothes and have her give you a look over again while she's still nekked....:bl:.........

Dick Durand
05-18-2017, 07:54 PM
Having had Lyme in the past, I'm spraying my clothes with permethrin and making an effort to avoid tick habitat.

redlite
05-18-2017, 09:35 PM
Ticks r no joke. My wife wants to move to the desert. She is an NP and is constantly pullin em off people. Not many people here in westport that arent lymed. Wife and both kids already been thru it. Not sure how i havent
We r adamant about sprayin kids and thourough and religous tick checks every nite. We get our whole yard sprayed every month with some voodoo bs organic tick spray (wife concerned about well water gettin contaminated). With that bein said in the past 2 weeks we have pulled ticks off both kids. We send them out to some place in amherst to have them checked. Both this year clean. But one last year on our son tested positive for that new deadly brain eatin disease that they dont know how to treat. Was an anxiety filled wait for his test to come back negative
All u can do is spray yourself down good with deet, shower good asap after possible contact with them, like mowin lawn/ yardwork, tick checks, and hope for the best
And drink lots of booze so they dont wanna suck on u in the first place
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Raven
05-19-2017, 04:25 AM
a ticks head is a screw!
you don't yank screws out of wood

they nova-cain (their numbing chemical)the spot
on your body
so you don't feel them screwing in

if attached to you clip the abdomen with a clip
that you can easily twirl counter clockwise

and unscrew them is the only way

when your exposed to them like after mowing
don't sit on the couch until you see one walk
out on your wrist from underneath the cuff.

change clothes , get an inspection and or shower

nightfighter
05-19-2017, 05:20 AM
Here is the write up on this product

For use on clothing, tents, gardening apparel, and other outdoor gear, SAWYER® PREMIUM CLOTHING INSECT REPELLENT not only repels insects, it kills ticks, mosquitoes, chiggers, mites, and more than 55 other kinds of insects on contact. It is effective against ticks that carry Lyme disease and other fairly common diseases like Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. The active ingredient Permethrin is the synthetic version of pyrethrum, a natural insecticide from the Chrysanthemum flower. Permethrin is odorless after drying and will not stain or damage clothing, fabrics, plastics, finished surfaces, or any of your outdoor equipment. A single application lasts 6 washings on clothing or 42 days (6 weeks) of sun exposure. The 24 ounce bottle of Sawyer Permethrin can treat 4 complete outfits.

puppet
05-19-2017, 06:10 AM
Not sure of the level of toxicity. But permethrin is toxic to fish. I did spray the waders i own...but far above the high water line. Not sure if the product is still dangerous to them post application...but the fish toxicity is noted on that sawyer bottle.

I have had lyme a few years ago. This year i pulled a tick off me. The tick tested positive for lyme. I tested negative...but still took the dose of antibiotics as i felt i had lyme symptoms.

Be carefull out there.
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denis
05-19-2017, 07:30 AM
I hunt turkeys in the spring,lots of ticks,Permethrin is the way to go.

ProfessorM
05-19-2017, 07:59 AM
Where do you guys buy your permethrin? Lots of ticks so far on me and the puppy.
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nightfighter
05-19-2017, 08:12 AM
Where do you guys buy your permethrin? Lots of ticks so far on me and the puppy.
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Paul, google sawyers permethrin and shopping options will come up. I went through Amazon prime.... but could be at local Walmart too.

denis
05-19-2017, 09:44 AM
Wally world best price.Dick"s stupid price.

FishermanTim
05-19-2017, 10:26 AM
Did you know that Permethrim is the main ingredient in the treatment of head lice?

Not at the levels used for treating clothes, but roughly half the strength.

Sawyers spray has it @ .50%
Head lice treatment is around 0.25%

Just an interesting tidbit of info...

Slipknot
05-19-2017, 11:02 AM
a ticks head is a screw!
you don't yank screws out of wood

they nova-cain (their numbing chemical)the spot
on your body
so you don't feel them screwing in

if attached to you clip the abdomen with a clip
that you can easily twirl counter clockwise

and unscrew them is the only way

when your exposed to them like after mowing
don't sit on the couch until you see one walk
out on your wrist from underneath the cuff.

change clothes , get an inspection and or shower


so Lefty Loosey ?


I hate ticks
thanks Ross

boot man
05-19-2017, 02:12 PM
a ticks head is a screw!
you don't yank screws out of wood

they nova-cain (their numbing chemical)the spot
on your body
so you don't feel them screwing in

if attached to you clip the abdomen with a clip
that you can easily twirl counter clockwise

and unscrew them is the only way

when your exposed to them like after mowing
don't sit on the couch until you see one walk
out on your wrist from underneath the cuff.

change clothes , get an inspection and or shower

Please don't grab them by the abdomen and unscrew. Also please don't burn them with matches, or cover them with any substance to get them out!

If you do any f these things, the tick's natural reaction is to regurgitate which severely increases your risk of infection.

You have to grab the tick as close to to the mouthpiece as possible. Recommended tools are needle nose tweezers or a tick removal device.

I carry a "Ticked #^&#^&#^&#^& tool on my keychain. It's like a spoon with a notch cut in it. Cheap on Amazon.

I know little about fishing, but I do know Ticks and the multiple diseases that they can transmit. I had 3 for many years that were misdiagnosed. Now I'm neurologically damaged.

Please trust me on this one. Wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
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zimmy
05-19-2017, 06:02 PM
Current medical advice is to grasp gently with tweezers as close to skin as possible and pull straight out. Twisting is likely to leave parts behind. About even handling them with your fingers if possible. Nasty pricks they are.
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Raven
05-20-2017, 10:56 AM
never had a problem unscrewing
of course
i take ten times the immune system vitamins you
probably take

Raven
05-20-2017, 10:59 AM
pyrethium how ever it's spelled
is terrible stuff
tried to fumigate a garden once
and i got ill from it for two weeks
felt like a friggan zombie

boot man
05-20-2017, 12:11 PM
never had a problem unscrewing
of course
i take ten times the immune system vitamins you
probably take

I can't change what you choose to do, but you're mistaken. the tick doesn't screw itself in. And you're adding to your risk of infection. The longer you disturb the tick, the more likely it's going to puke in your bloodstream. The bacteria it carries for Lyme and other diseases live in their stomach.
Wish I had your immune system. Good luck.
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piemma
05-21-2017, 11:28 AM
I don't get ticks and I live and work in the woods everyday. My docs says that the 9 heart meds I take everyday since my bypass surgery, gives off an scent that the ticks can smell.

I'm not sure about that but I don't get ticks ever since my bypass op.

basswipe
05-21-2017, 01:46 PM
This is directly from Arkansas Department of Health where they have massive issues with ticks.

Tick Removal

A tick attached to skin should be removed as soon as possible. This is important because disease will not transmit until the tick has been attached for several hours. To remove a tick, follow these steps:

Use clean, fine-tipped tweezers to grasp the tick as close to the skin’s surface as possible.
Pull upward with steady, even pressure. Do not twist or jerk the tick; this can cause the mouth-parts to break off and remain in the skin. If this happens, remove the mouth-parts with tweezers. If the mouth cannot be easily removed with clean tweezers, leave it alone and let the skin heal.
After removing the tick, thoroughly clean the bite area and wash your hands with rubbing alcohol, an iodine scrub, or soap and water.

Do not use home remedies such as “painting” the tick with nail polish or petroleum jelly, or using heat to make the tick come off. The goal is to remove the tick as quickly as possible. Do not wait for the tick to let go!

If you develop a rash or fever within several weeks of removing a tick, see your doctor. Be sure to tell the doctor about your recent tick bite, when the bite occurred, and where you most likely acquired the tick

Myths about ticks:
Myth: Rotating the tick will release it from the skin.

Truth: Ticks have barbs on the hypostome, NOT THREADS... you cannot unscrew a tick

Sorry Raven but boot man is 100% correct on this one.

Swimmer
05-21-2017, 06:20 PM
I got a disease four years ago from a parasite that attches itself to a tick, begins with A. Got you all beat.

boot man
05-21-2017, 07:02 PM
I got a disease four years ago from a parasite that attches itself to a tick, begins with A. Got you all beat.

Anaplasmosis

I going to win this one
Lyme - corkscrew bacteria most like the syphllis bacteria in shape and mental damage it does long term.
Bartonella - cat scratch fever bacteria
Babesiosis - a malaria like parasite
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fish raptor
05-21-2017, 11:52 PM
I have to admit...this thread is giving me the creeps. HC

I guess I'm wondering when did all this shmit start ? I don't remember ANY of this as a kid. Has this always been around or is it just that we are now about it via social media ?
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boot man
05-22-2017, 02:34 AM
Its always been around but never to this extent. Changing planet gives it a chance to expand. CDC indifference allows it to keep going. They describe Lyme as "difficult to get, easy to cure". Claim your as good as new after 28 days of doxycycline or your permanently damaged.
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Raven
05-22-2017, 04:39 AM
I can't change what you choose to do, but you're mistaken. the tick doesn't screw itself in. And you're adding to your risk of infection. The longer you disturb the tick, the more likely it's going to puke in your bloodstream. The bacteria it carries for Lyme and other diseases live in their stomach.
Wish I had your immune system. Good luck.
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well i'll concede that it isn't a screw head
it's actually a tapered BARB head
that kinda works like a screw in a way

here's three magnified photo's of the tick's F-ing head
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/tick%20head.png

Raven
05-22-2017, 04:47 AM
as far as my immune system ......this is something i work at DAILY

Chasing my wandering ducks across one of my fields the other day
got three ticks crawling on me and another one seen crawling
on the bathroom white wall. So now i'll fire up the gravely zero turn
mower and chase them on that instead.

i just purchased more fencing, just haven't installed it yet.

puppet
05-22-2017, 08:54 AM
i just purchased more fencing, just haven't installed it yet.

I have a small property. 1.2 acres....I put a deer fence up that
horseshoes about 3/4 acre my yard. It nearly eliminated deer
presence in my yard. I went from seeing them every day. To once a
year stray that comes in. Every blue moon We notice a flower gets
eaten, so occasionally they come in at night.

My motivation was a couple years back I was picking up ticks just
walking breifly in my yard. Since then, I have not picked up a tick
that i know of.

funny story. I had some tree work done and, dismantled a 20' foot
section of fence so the tree guy could drop the tree into the woods.
That opening was only open for three hours. As I was gathering
materials to restore the 20' breach, I headed to the opening. Would
you believe there where two deer at the the opening curiously
investigating it. Ridiculous. And this was after 2 hours of chainsaws....

Damn long legged rats.

boot man
05-22-2017, 09:41 AM
well i'll concede that it isn't a screw head
it's actually a tapered BARB head
that kinda works like a screw in a way

here's three magnified photo's of the tick's F-ing head
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/tick%20head.png

I, in no way, meant for anything to be adversarial with my posts. Really I'm just trying to lessen people's chances of ending up brain damaged like I am. There are so many tick myths out there, that if I see one I have the tendency to point it out.

Tights lines and screaming drags to you, sir.
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Raven
05-23-2017, 07:36 AM
i put a tick in the microwave inside a paper container
and it didn't even phase it. :huh:

i bought some special huge white wide socks that do not constrict your
circulation at your calf area that are easy to stuff your blue jeans into.

i am also going to purchase a bee keepers suit for when i have to work
in a totally tick infested spot. chickens and ducks working daily ,
eat those ticks guys.

also i am gonna get a shetload of deet.

prolly @ wally's

one thing i'm pleased with....is that (different subject) there's absolutely
no poison ivy here which i am highly allergic to. yay

boot man
05-23-2017, 07:54 AM
I've had great luck with Tick Defense by Repel. It uses Picaridin not DEET, the unknown bonus to me was it also works on no-see-ums. And the smell is less overbearing. I buy multipacks from Amazon.

(You can add ticks to the list of things that would survive a nuclear holocaust next to roaches, tux shoes, and Keith Richards)
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TheSpecialist
05-26-2017, 12:23 PM
sawyers is great, pre treat clothes outside and let them dry for 3 hours. Good for 6 washes

There is a tick removal tool out there called the tick ease. It is a tweezers type tool with one side for pets the other for humans. Cheap money good investment

You can buy jugs of permethrin at tractor farm supply but then you have to water it down. A couple of guys on one of the hunting sites go this way as sawyers can get expensive

Vogt
05-26-2017, 12:46 PM
(You can add ticks to the list of things that would survive a nuclear holocaust next to roaches, tux shoes, and Keith Richards)
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:bl::bl::bl:

bloocrab
05-26-2017, 02:25 PM
Finally saw a deer tick after they pulled it off of a young boy this afternoon....NEVER IMAGINED how small that type could be????
I've only seen the larger ones......what a difference!!!
Almost naked to the eye!!!.......gave me the heebie-jeebies.........poor kid.

Raven
05-26-2017, 03:31 PM
had an errand to the bank
came back -ducks are gone
over to neighbors yard
totally tick infested marshyness
had them big ones walkin out
from my shirt cuff afterwards :doh:

fish raptor
05-28-2017, 09:10 PM
A thought that ran across my mind was that since Permethrin is used world wide to combat all type of ticks and bugs, I can only imagine that over time somewhere at some point a tick will genetically become immune to it and then we have a serious problem. Isn't that the new way things are going ????

Raven
05-29-2017, 05:31 AM
and to make matters even worse

saw a pic of what's called "tick seeds"

they are this big ---> [ . ]

zimmy
05-29-2017, 09:11 PM
Finally saw a deer tick after they pulled it off of a young boy this afternoon....NEVER IMAGINED how small that type could be????
I've only seen the larger ones......what a difference!!!
Almost naked to the eye!!!.......gave me the heebie-jeebies.........poor kid.
Those are the nymph stage. Often can't even see if it is a tick without a magnifying glass.
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Swimmer
05-30-2017, 08:50 AM
Ticks r no joke. My wife wants to move to the desert. She is an NP and is constantly pullin em off people. Not many people here in westport that arent lymed. Wife and both kids already been thru it. Not sure how i havent
We r adamant about sprayin kids and thourough and religous tick checks every nite. We get our whole yard sprayed every month with some voodoo bs organic tick spray (wife concerned about well water gettin contaminated). With that bein said in the past 2 weeks we have pulled ticks off both kids. We send them out to some place in amherst to have them checked. Both this year clean. But one last year on our son tested positive for that new deadly brain eatin disease that they dont know how to treat. Was an anxiety filled wait for his test to come back negative
All u can do is spray yourself down good with deet, shower good asap after possible contact with them, like mowin lawn/ yardwork, tick checks, and hope for the best
And drink lots of booze so they dont wanna suck on u in the first place
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Have the wife look up Hanta virus (sic) spread by mice in the desert. Stick with ticks.

albythereforyou
06-04-2017, 06:34 AM
A month ago I got some cedar oil based tick/ bug repellant / killer for both wifey and me and the doggie..

so far so good. Cedar oil is safe for animals/ people / but kills most bugs on contact, and you get to smell like a pine tree.

the stuff is got is called cedarcide. I take my dog trout fishing with me all the time, last month I was pulling 4-10 ticks off her every time. I now spray myself and her down before we go out, and only 1 tick on her in the last 2 weeks, trout fishing probably 3x a week....

DEET and permethrin scare me as much as lymes, i have way too much cancer in my family and my wifes family, we try to live as clean and natural as possible...

Jimbo
06-04-2017, 08:01 AM
Fish Raptor, they already are becoming immune to tick meds. Our boxer faithfully gets his monthly dose yet at a recent checkup the vet said he had a tick borne disease which was treatable. I said we give him his monthly preventatives, how could this be. She said no matter what's used to prevent or deter them, human or animal, ticks have shown they will eventually build up a resistance.

fish raptor
06-04-2017, 04:17 PM
A month ago I got some cedar oil based tick/ bug repellant / killer for both wifey and me and the doggie..

so far so good. Cedar oil is safe for animals/ people / but kills most bugs on contact, and you get to smell like a pine tree.

the stuff is got is called cedarcide. I take my dog trout fishing with me all the time, last month I was pulling 4-10 ticks off her every time. I now spray myself and her down before we go out, and only 1 tick on her in the last 2 weeks, trout fishing probably 3x a week....

DEET and permethrin scare me as much as lymes, i have way too much cancer in my family and my wifes family, we try to live as clean and natural as possible...

Very interesting..... where do you get this "Cedarcide".....?

albythereforyou
06-05-2017, 05:04 AM
i bought it directly off their website..

https://www.cedarcide.com

I'm pretty sure you can get pure cedar oil and dilute it with another carrier oil, but the above seemed easier and a hunter I know recommended it to me...

between the cedarcide, and the homemade tick tubes I made, that's about as good as it's going to get for me.

I took the pooch trout fishing yesterday again for 2 hrs. she was running like a lunatic chasing deer through the ferns and pine forest the entire time. came home and checked her, found 1 tick crawling near her face, the one place I didn't spray her... I don't poison my dog with fipronil (frontline), i don't even want that poison sh!t within 5 miles of my backyard beehives... #^&#^&#^&#^& that crap and everyone overuse of insecticide...

Linesider82
06-06-2017, 10:31 PM
Please don't grab them by the abdomen and unscrew. Also please don't burn them with matches, or cover them with any substance to get them out!

If you do any f these things, the tick's natural reaction is to regurgitate which severely increases your risk of infection.

You have to grab the tick as close to to the mouthpiece as possible. Recommended tools are needle nose tweezers or a tick removal device.

I carry a "Ticked #^&#^&#^&#^& tool on my keychain. It's like a spoon with a notch cut in it. Cheap on Amazon.

I know little about fishing, but I do know Ticks and the multiple diseases that they can transmit. I had 3 for many years that were misdiagnosed. Now I'm neurologically damaged.

Please trust me on this one. Wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
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Yes. This is true, there is so much bad info on the internet that can get you infected. Like rub them with liquid soap. Do not do that. The best thing is desricribed above, as low as possible and gentle pull up.

If the tick is engorged, you're probably infected get to the Dr ASAP. They all carry diseases.

I've had Lyme 2x, once 16 years ago and another 14 years ago. Both along the shore. I pulled a tick from me a month ago, luckily a negative model.

Be adamant about this we live in prime territory for exposure.
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Raven
06-08-2017, 07:16 AM
ordered some cedarcide

thanks for the tips

after 7 weeks rain here theres lots of em

SilverKing
06-08-2017, 07:44 AM
Wow, this thread has got pretty disturbing, so I will add fuel to the fire and another reason to protect yourself. Has anyone on heard of the Powassan virus. I going to hand this off to boot man.

ct_fisher
06-08-2017, 07:32 PM
maybe this should help

https://www.lymeneteurope.org/info/deet-versus-permethrin-as-a-tick-repellent

boot man
06-09-2017, 08:23 AM
Powassan is currently the most dangerous of the tick borne vectors. Kills people yet some have no effect from it. 2 cases reported on the Cape this week.

The virus can be transmitted quickly upon attachment. (I believe they all can, but the CDC SAYS LYME IS 24-48 hours. But none of the cowards are willing to have a disease laden tick attached for 1 hour. Shouldn't be an issue, if it's so safe, right?)
http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20170608/county-official-says-tick-borne-powassan-virus-killed-2-cape-men

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Raven
06-10-2017, 11:09 AM
got my Cedarcide spray today
wicked fast delivery time-....wow!

mini bottle comes with
for use on SKIN
gonna test it now as a pesky fly repellant

ivanputski
06-12-2017, 11:11 AM
Havent seen a deer tick in years...

I found 2 just yesterday in RI, one was attached to my 8 year old son (came off easy... im thinking 1-3 hours max)

I am super paranoid now.

I am looking at buy PERMETHRIN to treat clothing, and something for the lawn and yard... any experiences? suggestions? I had lyme disease 2 summers ago

Raven
06-12-2017, 12:31 PM
prevention is as important as a repellent imho

your kids have to learn the routine of getting out of
possibly tick infested clothes and getting inspected.