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Ian
07-06-2017, 10:54 PM
As I mentioned in the other thread, we pulled the trigger on a Hydra-Sports 212cc last week and have already been able to enjoy it twice thanks to the beautiful holiday weekend weather.

Here are a couple pictures (wife and kid are VERY happy)

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Guppy
07-07-2017, 05:01 AM
Fantastic!
Your first mate looks like he's liking it...
Congrats, be safe
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JohnR
07-07-2017, 07:01 AM
Awesome!!! Extra Safety!@!!

JFigliuolo
07-07-2017, 07:12 AM
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy!

Billybob
07-07-2017, 08:40 AM
That's great, enjoy it!
Are you trailering or slipping it?
What does it have for power?

piemma
07-07-2017, 09:28 AM
Ian, good luck, be safe and, if you haven't already, invest in a pair of suspender PFD. Especially if you fish alone.

Ian
07-07-2017, 11:34 AM
That's great, enjoy it!
Are you trailering or slipping it?
What does it have for power?

Trailer, but I'm looking for other options as it's a bit wider than I expected and isn't a treat to be trailering so often.

It's got a 2000 Johnson 150 OceanPro (I know, its old... but super reliable)
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Ian
07-07-2017, 07:27 PM
First question is one I've tried a lot to google, but I'm having trouble because I think the equipment is too old.

The boat has a Lowrance sounder in the gauge cluster (you can kind of see it in the upper left of the above pictures. But it just blinks when power is on. I traced the wire down into the hull and there are only two transducer-like things sticking out of the hull anywhere on the boat. One is the speed gauge off the transom and the other is the thing pictures in the attached photo.

Does anyone know where one might find more information about this setup?

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kenny
07-07-2017, 08:01 PM
That's a raw water pick-up, must be a wash down station with a pump and switch.

bassballer
07-07-2017, 08:47 PM
congrats!

Ian
07-07-2017, 09:06 PM
That's a raw water pick-up, must be a wash down station with a pump and switch.

No washdown, maybe for the live well?

So if that's not a transducer, any idea where that might be? Are the depth only units typically hidden and shooting through the hull rather than hanging off the transom?
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Guppy
07-08-2017, 05:16 AM
Transducer may be missing,,, are there signs of it missing on the transom...
3 screw holes down low ....
In the picture, the transom is to the left, yes?
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Ian
07-08-2017, 06:14 AM
Transducer may be missing,,, are there signs of it missing on the transom...
3 screw holes down low ....
In the picture, the transom is to the left, yes?
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In the picture of the raw water pickup, it's to the right. I'm squatting behind the boat to take that picture.

There are no signs of a transducer ever having been installed... I'm going to pull on the wire that goes down into the hull from the gauge in the center console, if it has resistance, I'll look into this more, otherwise I'll look to replace the part.
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Ian
07-08-2017, 06:15 AM
Another question: this boat desperately needs replacement cushions. Anyone know the best route to get those made without ruining the bank account? I had one guy give me a rough estimate of 2300, which seems incredibly high.
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Ian
07-08-2017, 11:24 PM
Well, found the transducer. It was in the void below the engine mount with the lovewell pump and stern bilge, covered in silicone and just floating there. I tried to get all the silicone off and embedded the unit in duct seal and say it on the bottom of the compartment hoping that was the hull.

We'll see how it works on the water tomorrow.
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piemma
07-09-2017, 10:34 AM
I have used these guys and they have always been reasonable.
http://www.caitos.com/

nightfighter
07-09-2017, 11:20 AM
cushions are expensive. No real good way around it. That said, I sold my cushions on a GradyWhite site quickly, so maybe find a site related to your make and check classifieds. In the meantime, given wife and infant, get a couple bean bag chairs. they are awesome and can be used fore and aft.

SolOmoN
07-10-2017, 01:55 PM
beanbag chairs :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:
https://www.e-searider.com/

https://www.ocean-tamer.com/ sold at West marine... or you can search THT in marine parts forum... I found my second there for $50 congrats and good luck!
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Fish On
07-10-2017, 07:07 PM
Very nice looking ride! Fishing machine. Congratulations!

I had a 1995 2150 W/A Cuddy Vector hull. Bought it in 2002 and sold in 2010. I would buy it back in a second. VERY solid boat. I cut holes in the gunwhale to mount downriggers and kept the cut outs to show perspective buyers the layering.

Remember to always choose safety first. If this is your first boat I highly recommend getting a copy of Chapman's. Great book about how to be safe on the water. Good luck with her! Does she have a name?

Sea Dangles
07-10-2017, 07:46 PM
Beanbags are for lovers👍🏿
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Ian
07-10-2017, 08:02 PM
Thanks for the tips guys, I'm a little worried about the space with the bean bags on board... Is that a legitimate concern?
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Ian
07-10-2017, 08:03 PM
I have used these guys and they have always been reasonable.
http://www.caitos.com/

Paul, called them today and they were MUCH closer to what I would have expected to be paying. Thanks for the information!
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piemma
07-11-2017, 02:42 AM
Glad it worked out. Those guys have always far with me.

Ian
07-14-2017, 08:44 PM
Very nice looking ride! Fishing machine. Congratulations!

I had a 1995 2150 W/A Cuddy Vector hull. Bought it in 2002 and sold in 2010. I would buy it back in a second. VERY solid boat. I cut holes in the gunwhale to mount downriggers and kept the cut outs to show perspective buyers the layering.

Remember to always choose safety first. If this is your first boat I highly recommend getting a copy of Chapman's. Great book about how to be safe on the water. Good luck with her! Does she have a name?

Still working on the name. I am a developer and a fisherman and my wife is a mother and a nurse.

Her wholesome cute ideas clash very much with my technology sportsman sense of humor. :)

So continues the conflict of marriage
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Ian
07-14-2017, 08:45 PM
beanbag chairs :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:
https://www.e-searider.com/

https://www.ocean-tamer.com/ sold at West marine... or you can search THT in marine parts forum... I found my second there for $50 congrats and good luck!
sol...

Where do you guys store these on smaller boats? Net on the top of the t-top
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SolOmoN
07-22-2017, 11:51 AM
Yes you can put them up top when you want the room to move around and fish or whatever.... you can make a bungee net pretty cheap to strap them down if you want other than that you will be hard pressed to get someone out of them when being used.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAMqZA27iA0

sol...

ps. if you go this route just be sure to secure them when you trailer... lost one last weekend on the way back from the ramp... bummer...


Where do you guys store these on smaller boats? Net on the top of the t-top
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Ian
07-28-2017, 01:56 PM
Yes you can put them up top when you want the room to move around and fish or whatever.... you can make a bungee net pretty cheap to strap them down if you want other than that you will be hard pressed to get someone out of them when being used.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAMqZA27iA0

sol...

ps. if you go this route just be sure to secure them when you trailer... lost one last weekend on the way back from the ramp... bummer...

Thanks man! This is awesome because I just sent the canvas in to be replaced and this kind of project was item #1 when it came back. Was gonna buy one online but I always prefer the DIY.
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Ian
07-28-2017, 02:13 PM
So here's an update on the progress with the boat (with more detail than any of you probably care to read) but the summary is: Things add up quick!

Now that I've had the boat for about a month, I'm noticing the "little things" that made it seem like such a good deal.

Things like the caulking around the base of the console leaking like its not caulked, mildew all over the inside fabric lining the walls of the center console, little electronic items not working in various locations, the gel coat looking powder white rather than shiny and waxed, etc.

Most of these things were things I knew about, but I don't think I anticipated the cost of fixing them all. None of it has been a "I wish I hadn't bought the boat" though... I compare it to when I bought my house... we knew what we wanted in a house and couldn't find it. So we bought a house that needed new bathrooms, a new kitchen, etc. rather than paying for what someone else wanted and ripping it out anyways.

So I've started the "build it back up" phase of this boat.

Got the bow nav light working and replaced with an LED rather than the broken incan. that was in there.

Pulled the stained and mildewy canvas off the t top and sent it in to be duplicated in Navy Sunbrella.

Bought a sun shade for the bow of the boat when we're floating as a family... This one can be easily underappreciated, but it has single handedly made my wife (who wanted a CC anyways) love the fact that we went Center Console, rather than something with a cabin.

Finally got the cushions out to the upholstery shop to be replaced, including making a 2 piece cushion for the bow.

Got some LED spreader lights for off the back of the T-Top, if anyone has use for 12v halogen lights, let me know, I have a pair (one needs a bulb) and they're yours for free.

Left on the "to-do list":

Buy a fish finder/chartplotter
Go over the whole boat with a polisher to try to revive this gel coat and then wax the hell out of it
Figure out why the OB wont spin up over 4400 RPMs (compression is fine, seems to either be power pack or carbs)
Go over all the parts of the boat that have been screwed in to fiberglass and re-seal the seams. (This one will probably spawn its own thread because it needs pictures to properly explain.)
Run wiring up through the t-top rather than zip-tying all the wires to the outside of the frame. Has anyone done this before? Am I better off just keeping it zip tied rather than drilling into the frame of the top and risking one of the welded joint not being open?

Ian
07-28-2017, 02:15 PM
Oh, and does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement VHF antenna? I inadvertently broke mine while pulling it off the top to re-route the coax

SolOmoN
07-28-2017, 06:04 PM
I have an old one you are welcome to it. I only replaced it it because it was to long for my use you will have to put an end on it easy to do if you want it let me know I'll be home in RI on this coming Wednesday.
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wdmso
07-29-2017, 07:15 AM
I like the thread even with a brand new boat I am finding things I don't like such as limited bilge access ( more like none) as for running new wires in the t -top depending on the holes mine had access thru the t top in the console I took a tag line wallmart bag and used shop vac to pull it thru for a new transducer i used a small plumbing snake to do the same thing .. and I am not a handy guy . But it made it easy

Ian
07-29-2017, 12:52 PM
I like the thread even with a brand new boat I am finding things I don't like such as limited bilge access ( more like none) as for running new wires in the t -top depending on the holes mine had access thru the t top in the console I took a tag line wallmart bag and used shop vac to pull it thru for a new transducer i used a small plumbing snake to do the same thing .. and I am not a handy guy . But it made it easy

Did you have to drill a hole in the top anywhere to get the wire back out in the destination you wanted the wire to come out at?
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Ian
07-29-2017, 01:52 PM
So not everything with a new (to me) boat is about picking fun accessories and getting it set up the way I want it... There are also things like the motor not exactly running correctly.

Today I finally had some time to look into that and found some pretty unpleasant stuff. Of the 6 carbs on the motor, 5 of them have a crack in the bottom assembly that holds the float. These things are all plastic, so I guess pressure over time ended up doing them in??!

So I ordered a new set of lower assemblies and pulled all the carbs off the motor to disassemble them while I wait for the parts to ship and arrive. Fingers crossed this thing is back on the water in time for vacation next Saturday!

GattaFish
07-29-2017, 06:53 PM
Someone told me even with an unlimited budget it will take you 2 years to get your boat the way you want.

I won't mention budget or what I spent but I'm working on my second year and still have a long list of stuff to get done. And the list of stuff that has been done is VERY LONG.
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Ian
07-29-2017, 07:35 PM
Someone told me even with an unlimited budget it will take you 2 years to get your boat the way you want.

I won't mention budget or what I spent but I'm working on my second year and still have a long list of stuff to get done. And the list of stuff that has been done is VERY LONG.
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I like that... makes me realize I'm not an idiot (for this reason at least)
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nightfighter
07-29-2017, 09:03 PM
Someone told me even with an unlimited budget it will take you 2 years to get your boat the way you want.

I won't mention budget or what I spent but I'm working on my second year and still have a long list of stuff to get done. And the list of stuff that has been done is VERY LONG.
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LMAO, Tom. How true.... And just when you have almost optimized it, you fall in love with another boat...... I have fallen hard for Sea Dangles' boat.....
Ian, you do know what BOAT stands for?.........

Ian
07-29-2017, 09:26 PM
LMAO, Tom. How true.... And just when you have almost optimized it, you fall in love with another boat...... I have fallen hard for Sea Dangles' boat.....
Ian, you do know what BOAT stands for?.........

I haven't hit that threshold yet, but after the chartplotter, I'll happily be able to say it's been broken out
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wdmso
07-30-2017, 07:39 AM
Did you have to drill a hole in the top anywhere to get the wire back out in the destination you wanted the wire to come out at?
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The holes were all ready there they left the pipe on the t top open from the console to were it attached to the electronics box

GattaFish
07-30-2017, 07:40 AM
LMAO, Tom. How true.... And just when you have almost optimized it, you fall in love with another boat...... I have fallen hard for Sea Dangles' boat.....
Ian, you do know what BOAT stands for?.........


Break out another TEN. my how times have changed.

I am very interested to see the results of the 40' O'Bay.
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nightfighter
07-30-2017, 08:26 AM
Me too, Tom. My hope is that sales of the 40 will put some of the 27s on the secondary market closer to my budget..........


Ian, having a grommet fitted into any hole drilled in T-top frame is essential to prevent cables from getting rubbed and cut by rough edges underway.

MakoMike
07-30-2017, 10:31 AM
Me too, Tom. My hope is that sales of the 40 will put some of the 27s on the secondary market closer to my budget..........


Ian, having a grommet fitted into any hole drilled in T-top frame is essential to prevent cables from getting rubbed and cut by rough edges underway.

Am appropriate sized piece of PVC pipe secured in place will also do the trick.

bloocrab
07-30-2017, 07:13 PM
In my opinion, if you're looking to get your boat on the water in time for your upcoming vacation......stop everything else and concentrate on getting her running right. In the end, that's what matters most....(needing solid electronics are part of that, but still fall second to reliability while out on the water with your family).
There's only one thing worse than having your boat fail while out on the water....and that's having loved ones on board when it happens........that's why I mostly invite people I don't care about out on my boat...:hihi:

Ian
07-30-2017, 10:38 PM
In my opinion, if you're looking to get your boat on the water in time for your upcoming vacation......stop everything else and concentrate on getting her running right. In the end, that's what matters most....(needing solid electronics are part of that, but still fall second to reliability while out on the water with your family).
There's only one thing worse than having your boat fail while out on the water....and that's having loved ones on board when it happens........that's why I mostly invite people I don't care about out on my boat...:hihi:

Lucky for me, those projects are overlapping.

Coils, carb rebuild kits, fuel water filter and other motor stuff will be here Wednesday, New canvas will be here Tuesday, carbs are disassembled waiting for the rebuild parts right now, and I started adjusting wires running up the t-top this weekend and am almost done (gonna save the through-top wiring for the winter.)

Assuming thunderstorms hold off, she should be back out on the water Thursday evening to see if everything is running right.

As things stand right now, I think I got lucky with the motor stuff, but only time will tell.
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JFigliuolo
07-31-2017, 06:43 AM
Kinda in line w/what Blue said... Put off alot of the cosmetic stuff until it gets cold. That's what winter is for. You don't want to get burned out. Like other said... It is a LONG road. After 4 years I THINK I finally got her where I like her.

wdmso
08-01-2017, 03:56 AM
dont for get Sea tow or boat USA best 150 bucks spent

Ian
08-01-2017, 07:10 AM
dont for get Sea tow or boat USA best 150 bucks spent

Went with Boat US
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Ian
08-03-2017, 10:45 PM
Carbs are back together, gonna get them on the motor in the AM. Left throttle body has to come off to get to the last set of seals.

New coil and on-motor trim switch went on last night to hopefully fix the electrical issues.

Tomorrow if we aren't crazy packing for Saturday's departure I want to get her in the water to fire her up and test her out.

Nothing like procrastination. Wife actually told me this evening, "You can work on the boat when we get to the cape, you'll have 2 weeks to do it."... she's nuts!
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Ian
08-05-2017, 09:34 PM
Lost a hub on the trailer on our way up this morning. Boat is now taking an extended leave in Johnston while the shop orders and installs a new axle.

Boat will be here Tuesday if all goes well... then hopefully 1 day to get the motor back together... maybe I'll have her spitting white smoke again before the end of this vacation :)
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Guppy
08-06-2017, 06:10 AM
Geeees
Tough luck Ian , plenty to do on CC, enjoy
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Ian
08-06-2017, 08:38 AM
Geeees
Tough luck Ian , plenty to do on CC, enjoy
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Certainly not what I had planned, but we've been vacationing here without a boat for years, one more won't matter.
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