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piemma
09-24-2017, 10:49 AM
These have never been seen by anyone but Habs, myself and my fishing partner in 1988. These were pre-production and we (Habs and I) used nail polish to cover a yellow needle because the Bass were hitting anything purple.

Slipknot
09-24-2017, 10:56 AM
Very nice pieces of history there Paul
Thanks for sharing the pics
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piemma
09-24-2017, 11:42 AM
Thanks, Slip.
Almost 30 years hanging in my office. I just can't fish them .

Of course, you know what John's response to that would be.:whackin::smash:

PaulS
09-24-2017, 04:12 PM
F I s h. T h e m
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numbskull
09-25-2017, 05:50 AM
I think I recall DZ telling me that that early Habs style was his favorite needle and that Habs went to a simpler shape because of production concerns.

Dennis, if you read this and are able maybe you also could post a picture of the one you have?

piemma
09-25-2017, 07:01 AM
I think I recall DZ telling me that that early Habs style was his favorite needle and that Habs went to a simpler shape because of production concerns.

Dennis, if you read this and are able maybe you also could post a picture of the one you have?

George, I have a couple of early production Habs that I'll post pics of. I also had 4 Habs jointed, metal lip swimmers that he NEVER put into production unfortunately, a friend of mine, George Hevey, who took over Murats when Dave Hammock died, bought all 4 and lost them promptly after I sold them to him.

DZ
09-25-2017, 07:59 AM
I think I recall DZ telling me that that early Habs style was his favorite needle and that Habs went to a simpler shape because of production concerns.

Dennis, if you read this and are able maybe you also could post a picture of the one you have?

Two top needles with painted eyes are Habs first run of needles which he sold unpackaged at a few RI shops , then he went to stick-on eyes, and eventually to dolls eyes.

ivanputski
09-25-2017, 08:12 AM
Incredible... love the history. I wish there was a history of surfcasting museum in new england somewhere... like the smithsonian of surfcasting

ProfessorM
09-25-2017, 09:10 AM
There is it's at Vineyardblues house. .
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DZ
09-25-2017, 09:11 AM
Incredible... love the history. I wish there was a history of surfcasting museum in new england somewhere... like the smithsonian of surfcasting
It's called VineyardBlues house ;)

numbskull
09-25-2017, 10:10 AM
Very cool picture, thanks Dennis. I like the shape of the green-yellow one. Was it tail weighted or two belly weights? Did you have any experience fishing that version?

DZ
09-25-2017, 10:49 AM
Very cool picture, thanks Dennis. I like the shape of the green-yellow one. Was it tail weighted or two belly weights? Did you have any experience fishing that version?

I fished them all with success but really liked his oldest versions which I only had in solid black including an old "footer" I had which was very effective on Block. When John changed the design I couldn't believe it and was dissapointed but obviously history has taught us that he had success with his eventual final design. I can't remember how the green one is weighted. I'll check when I get home.

piemma
09-25-2017, 10:53 AM
Dennis, your yellow one and one of my purple ones are almost identical.

DZ
09-25-2017, 11:21 AM
Dennis, your yellow one and one of my purple ones are almost identical.
Yes - they are. Not many of them still around.

Nebe
09-25-2017, 12:10 PM
The Hab'negger never caught a fish for me.... he needles were deadly in deep water fished off the bottom. Count downs were the secret to not loosing them to snags
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DZ
09-25-2017, 12:39 PM
The Hab'negger never caught a fish for me....
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Yea, the egg was a novelty to me also. John kept telling me; "The guys on the Vineyard are killing them with this plug!" He always had the right sales pitch but at my age it took a lot to pull the wool over my eyes.

piemma
09-25-2017, 01:26 PM
Here's a Habs Stubby but not a Nite-n-Gale. Loaded under the eye and right near the tail.

piemma
09-25-2017, 01:28 PM
I had a dark copper colored Nite-N Gale John gave me on The Block one year. Damned if I can find it. It was also pre-production. DZ, it was the year of Jeanne's lasagna at Neptune.

BigBo
09-25-2017, 04:23 PM
How about this one Paul or DZ or anyone else in the know? I've had it for quite a few years (I actually have a couple in two different sizes). Much like the Gibbs Cast-A-Lure Poppers, but there are subtle differences. Hard to see in the pic, but they are stamped HAB on the top backside before they were painted.
Are these true Hab's? I was told they were, but never any definitive confirmation.
https://i.imgur.com/wpK94gW.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/kEV5XLa.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/Spsv94A.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/qF10z8g.jpg?1

RIROCKHOUND
09-25-2017, 07:20 PM
I had a dark copper colored Nite-N Gale John gave me on The Block one year. Damned if I can find it. It was also pre-production. DZ, it was the year of Jeanne's lasagna at Neptune.

I have one of the small needles, skinny, not the stubby, in copper. Love that plug for dark nights on the inside...

Slipknot
09-25-2017, 08:11 PM
BigBo yes those are Habs
I have a bunch of those

BigBo
09-25-2017, 08:13 PM
Thanks Bruce.
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BigFish
09-25-2017, 09:50 PM
Hi Bob!!!:kewl:

BigBo
09-26-2017, 06:56 AM
Lawrence! I know, I know. I owe you a cup of coffee. :hidin:

Rob Rockcrawler
09-26-2017, 07:06 AM
Were the little poppers called troublemakers? I seem to recall that when i bought a handful of them ages ago.

bobber
09-26-2017, 10:47 AM
are those made out of maple??

piemma
09-27-2017, 01:55 AM
Great question! I never asked John but they were either maple or birch.

pbadad
09-27-2017, 06:17 AM
I think for the most part , the modern version was birch.
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t_man7
12-27-2020, 01:42 PM
How about this one Paul or DZ or anyone else in the know? I've had it for quite a few years (I actually have a couple in two different sizes). Much like the Gibbs Cast-A-Lure Poppers, but there are subtle differences. Hard to see in the pic, but they are stamped HAB on the top backside before they were painted.
Are these true Hab's? I was told they were, but never any definitive confirmation.
https://i.imgur.com/wpK94gW.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/kEV5XLa.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/Spsv94A.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/qF10z8g.jpg?1
I believe early on John and a friend made a company called JNT lures. They made this exact Gibbs popper. Maybe this is from when JNT lures turned into very early Habs.

piemma
12-28-2020, 12:39 PM
yeah, it was John and Mike D or as he was later known....Tattoo.

Thus the name JNT.

Clammer
01-04-2021, 10:21 PM
Paul

Habs sr plugs are worth $$ & so is Mikes

Al gags [cast a lure ] without the box .which looks very similar to the above popper … not much at all

Is there any value in this one if it was made by a company made up of John & Mike :spin:

jbuck
01-13-2021, 07:46 PM
I may be wrong but I think JNT was John and friend of his Norm .In the first stage of John making lures . John and Tattoo came later and went by Hab a Tat .