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wdmso
10-12-2017, 03:44 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41584194


"It is frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write, and people should look into it," he said at the White House.

Seems he has no issues saying what ever he wants?

Take a knee OMG the POTUS and his base :lossinit:

Make threats about the media whom you want to shut down.. POTUS the Base says :btu:

And this Administration is only 10 months old

JohnR
10-12-2017, 05:37 AM
It is disgusting that the press gets to write whatever they want (or not covering things), particularly when dripping with bias or with lies.

Fortunately the 1A protects that.

spence
10-12-2017, 05:38 AM
Ooooohhhh yes the evil mainstream media.
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Raider Ronnie
10-12-2017, 07:31 AM
Trump makes comment to other guys in private about how women throw themselves at him and grabbing their pussy and it’s 24/7 news for weeks.
This Hollyweird producer Harvey Weinstein been asexually assaulting and raped women for years and the media is pretty much silent (same goes for the liberal #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s on this site)
#^&#^&#^&#^& the media !
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spence
10-12-2017, 07:34 AM
Actually the Weinstein story has been and still is front page news on every media outlet.
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Got Stripers
10-12-2017, 07:41 AM
Trump makes comment to other guys in private about how women throw themselves at him and grabbing their pussy and it’s 24/7 news for weeks.
This Hollyweird producer Harvey Weinstein been asexually assaulting and raped women for years and the media is pretty much silent (same goes for the liberal #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s on this site)
#^&#^&#^&#^& the media !
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Front page and first story everywhere, you need to change the channel, they don't cover it on net geowild.

Trump is a bully, he is just pissed he can't actually fire the media, or they would already be training some new anchors.

Nebe
10-12-2017, 07:46 AM
psycopathic narcissist.
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RIROCKHOUND
10-12-2017, 08:28 AM
Front page and first story everywhere, you need to change the channel, they don't cover it on net geowild.

Trump is a bully, he is just pissed he can't actually fire the media, or they would already be training some new anchors.

I don't know what 'News' RR watches/reads, because I haven;t been able to escape this story on multiple outlets....

Nebe
10-12-2017, 08:43 AM
I don't know what 'News' RR watches/reads, because I haven;t been able to escape this story on multiple outlets....

Trumps base does not watch the news. :hihi:
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Sea Dangles
10-12-2017, 08:46 AM
Trumps base does not watch the news. :hihi:
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Said the man who claims to have no tv🤡
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Nebe
10-12-2017, 08:52 AM
Said the man who claims to have no tv🤡
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I read the news
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Furthermore.. if you are going to call me a clown.. let me also say that tv news certainly is a joke. Especially all of the cable tv news channels. Any time you interject news and opinion at The same time you are ripe for propaganda and false projections of current events.

I believe we can all thank Ronald Reagan for this with the fairness doctrine.

If it were me, I’d make a law that states that anything labeled “news” should be 100% fact based with no opinion or spin. Any fake news or skewed news should be held accountable. But who would be in control of that ?

I get my news from BBC, Reuters and that’s pretty much it.

Slipknot
10-12-2017, 09:06 AM
hardly a threat :huh:
I'm sure NBC is shaking in their boots :rollem:


we all knew Trump was a bully well before he got elected, yet here we are so no surprise and no news.

He has a chance to prove himself just like Obama had the chance, but of course the media supported one and tries to destroy the other.

Sea Dangles
10-12-2017, 10:23 AM
I read the news
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Furthermore.. if you are going to call me a clown.. let me also say that tv news certainly is a joke. Especially all of the cable tv news channels. Any time you interject news and opinion at The same time you are ripe for propaganda and false projections of current events.

I believe we can all thank Ronald Reagan for this with the fairness doctrine.

If it were me, I’d make a law that states that anything labeled “news” should be 100% fact based with no opinion or spin. Any fake news or skewed news should be held accountable. But who would be in control of that ?

I get my news from BBC, Reuters and that’s pretty much it.
Great idea...we need another law!

I especially appreciate the question of who would be in control of that...I am sure an agency could be created to satisfy your query.
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DZ
10-12-2017, 11:44 AM
Trump and mainstream media keep taunting each other - the amazing part is both parties completely fall for it every time. They should both know better but this is how Trump won - he plays the mainstream media like a well tuned fiddle.

Raider Ronnie
10-12-2017, 12:50 PM
Actually the Weinstein story has been and still is front page news on every media outlet.
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This guy has been a sexual predator for years, possibly decades including claims of rape and the left, Hollyweird & the media covered it up for years and liberal politicians (like Hillary for example) continued to take his $
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Jim in CT
10-12-2017, 02:15 PM
Ooooohhhh yes the evil mainstream media.
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They're pretty bad Spence. But they're pushing your agenda, so you don't care.

Jim in CT
10-12-2017, 02:16 PM
Actually the Weinstein story has been and still is front page news on every media outlet.
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After NBC and the NYT buried it for years. You forgot that part. Honest mistake I'm sure.

Raider Ronnie
10-12-2017, 02:31 PM
After NBC and the NYT buried it for years. You forgot that part. Honest mistake I'm sure.


That’s the liberal way.
Just take a small portion of a story that fits their agenda and twist it.
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Nebe
10-12-2017, 02:47 PM
That’s the liberal way.
Just take a small portion of a story that fits their agenda and twist it.
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You can’t see republicans doing this too? Both sides do this. It’s disgusting
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Jim in CT
10-12-2017, 10:11 PM
You can’t see republicans doing this too? Both sides do this. It’s disgusting
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It is disgusting. But let's not pretend that the conservatives and liberals control an equal share of the media.

GattaFish
10-13-2017, 05:59 AM
Trump is a bully.


Lol. Your right. Maybe he should just use the IRS to audit the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of people who don’t see things his way.


Popcorn 🍿
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Got Stripers
10-13-2017, 06:41 AM
I’ve said it before, why he has to continually spar with everyone, thus keeping the noise at full volume is counterproductive. He loves to fight and his thin skin makes him an easy target
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Slipknot
10-13-2017, 07:13 AM
Because he is an egomaniac Bob. You are venting it seems, maybe because you can't deal with it or maybe you are just observing.

NBC outright lies, are you defending them but bashing Trump?

Maybe he is just deflecting or distracting while he gets things done his way, instead of how he wanted to get things done but the Legislature waffled or failed.

PaulS
10-13-2017, 08:36 AM
And lets not forget Fuax news had their own issues w/this subject.

wdmso
10-13-2017, 03:46 PM
That’s the liberal way.
Just take a small portion of a story that fits their agenda and twist it.
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I guess your bubble didn't report this

Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania announced Wednesday that he will retire at the end of his term, after allegations that the married Republican lawmaker, who opposes abortion rights, asked a woman he was romantically involved with to terminate a pregnancy.

Murphy admitted several weeks ago to an affair with forensic psychologist Shannon Edwards — news that came to light during the woman’s divorce proceedings with her husband.

your Hollywood elite narrative is old ... the guys a scum bag reguardless

wdmso
10-13-2017, 03:49 PM
seems if Trump played Football He would be the Punter seems thats all he's good at

Raider Ronnie
10-13-2017, 07:47 PM
I guess your bubble didn't report this

Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania announced Wednesday that he will retire at the end of his term, after allegations that the married Republican lawmaker, who opposes abortion rights, asked a woman he was romantically involved with to terminate a pregnancy.

Murphy admitted several weeks ago to an affair with forensic psychologist Shannon Edwards — news that came to light during the woman’s divorce proceedings with her husband.

your Hollywood elite narrative is old ... the guys a scum bag reguardless



Are you #^&#^&#^&#^&ing serious comparing this guy Murphy who had an affair and Weinstein who was banging every woman he could, even if they wouldn’t allow it (rape) and Hollyweird and a most of the left looked away or covered it up ?

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Jim in CT
10-13-2017, 09:36 PM
I guess your bubble didn't report this

Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania announced Wednesday that he will retire at the end of his term, after allegations that the married Republican lawmaker, who opposes abortion rights, asked a woman he was romantically involved with to terminate a pregnancy.

Murphy admitted several weeks ago to an affair with forensic psychologist Shannon Edwards — news that came to light during the woman’s divorce proceedings with her husband.

your Hollywood elite narrative is old ... the guys a scum bag reguardless

The difference is, if Murphy was a Democrat, he might have survived this, like Bill Clinton did. There are absolute scumbags on both sides. You get a lot more wiggle room to be a scumbag, on the left.

Jim in CT
10-13-2017, 09:38 PM
Are you #^&#^&#^&#^&ing serious comparing this guy Murphy who had an affair and Weinstein who was banging every woman he could, even if they wouldn’t allow it (rape) and Hollyweird and a most of the left looked away or covered it up ?

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Yes, that's what he's doing. It's called moral relativism, one of the pillars of the left. Murphy is a morally bankrupt hypocrite, and I wish they'd kick him out before he could resign. But he hasn't been accused of rape.

wdmso
10-14-2017, 03:56 AM
Are you #^&#^&#^&#^&ing serious comparing this guy Murphy who had an affair and Weinstein who was banging every woman he could, even if they wouldn’t allow it (rape) and Hollyweird and a most of the left looked away or covered it up ?

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you missed the point completely must be partisan blindness...



seeing only the news and hearing the stories that you agree with

wdmso
10-14-2017, 03:58 AM
The difference is, if Murphy was a Democrat, he might have survived this, like Bill Clinton did. There are absolute scumbags on both sides. You get a lot more wiggle room to be a scumbag, on the left.


your partisan hate consumes you

PaulS
10-15-2017, 10:55 AM
your partisan hate consumes you

I've said that to him many times here
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PaulS
10-15-2017, 10:57 AM
After NBC and the NYT buried it for years. You forgot that part. Honest mistake I'm sure.

Do you have any proof of that? Please post up a story cuz I'd be interesting to read that. The New York Times is the one who broke the story along with the New Yorker
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scottw
10-15-2017, 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There are absolute scumbags on both sides.



Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso

your partisan hate consumes you

[QUOTE=PaulS;1130001]

I've said that to him many times here


:huh:

wdmso
10-15-2017, 04:20 PM
funny thing most here could not have picked Harvey Weinstein out of a photo line up 2 weeks ago including myself ... but the usual suspects whom's email box were suddenly filled with talking point and marching orders highjacked a thread about trump and NBC and made it about the media and Liberals

media covered it up for years and liberal politicians (like Hillary for example)

or That’s the liberal way. or Democrat, he might have survived this, like Bill Clinton Hillary was even mentioned .. its comical

The Dad Fisherman
10-15-2017, 04:45 PM
Do you have any proof of that? Please post up a story cuz I'd be interesting to read that. The New York Times is the one who broke the story along with the New Yorker
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/12/media/harvey-weinstein-media/index.html

""I will say that over many years, many news organizations have circled this story and faced a great deal of pressure in doing so," Farrow said during an appearance on MSNBC on Tuesday night."
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PaulS
10-15-2017, 05:00 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/12/media/harvey-weinstein-media/index.html

""I will say that over many years, many news organizations have circled this story and faced a great deal of pressure in doing so," Farrow said during an appearance on MSNBC on Tuesday night."
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So that is it? Someone said the New York Times was shown a story 12 years ago and the editors said they can't even recall it. You're reaching.
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scottw
10-15-2017, 06:53 PM
... but the usual suspects whom's email box were suddenly filled with talking point and marching orders

I've honestly never received a single talking point or marching order in my email....maybe Jim?...

Jim in CT
10-15-2017, 07:40 PM
Do you have any proof of that? Please post up a story cuz I'd be interesting to read that. The New York Times is the one who broke the story along with the New Yorker
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They are both admitting it, how is that for proof? They claim that there wasn't quite enough verifiability. That didn't stop the NYT from running a story that John McCain's adopted black daughter, is his biological daughter from an affair.

The liberal media's requirement for verifiability, depends on whose ox is getting gored.

Jim in CT
10-15-2017, 07:43 PM
So that is it? Someone said the New York Times was shown a story 12 years ago and the editors said they can't even recall it. You're reaching.
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Just google it for Gods sake, we're not making it up, it's everywhere. Here, Salon for Christ's sake, more liberal than NBC, calls out NBC for burying it.

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/12/nbc-killed-the-harvey-weinstein-story-report/

Jim in CT
10-15-2017, 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There are absolute scumbags on both sides.



Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso

your partisan hate consumes you

[QUOTE=PaulS;1130001]

I've said that to him many times here


:huh:

Gee, when you put it that way...

You know you have clobbered a liberal in a debate, when they stop responding to the topic and accuse you of hate. That is liberalspeak for "you've got me, and I don't want to talk about this anymore."

Heck, you and I just went at it on gun control, as did Detbuch and I...

Jim in CT
10-15-2017, 07:47 PM
your partisan hate consumes you

Bill Clinton is a serial predator of women, and is a hero of the left.

Is that sentence true or false?

we have plenty of perverts on my side. They are generally hounded from our midst when outed as such...I don't know of a conservative who is a serial abuser of women, who is hailed as a feminist hero.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 06:49 AM
They are both admitting it, how is that for proof? They claim that there wasn't quite enough verifiability. That didn't stop the NYT from running a story that John McCain's adopted black daughter, is his biological daughter from an affair.

The liberal media's requirement for verifiability, depends on whose ox is getting gored.

They (NBC and not NYT) admitted that they didn't run it bc they didn't have proof?

So you want them to run it w/o proof bc Harvey was a liberal?

Your hate will never end.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 06:49 AM
Just google it for Gods sake, we're not making it up, it's everywhere. Here, Salon for Christ's sake, more liberal than NBC, calls out NBC for burying it.

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/12/nbc-killed-the-harvey-weinstein-story-report/

They killed it bc they didn't have enough proof to run it.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 06:51 AM
[QUOTE=scottw;1130006]Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There are absolute scumbags on both sides.



Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso

your partisan hate consumes you



Gee, when you put it that way...

You know you have clobbered a liberal in a debate, when they stop responding to the topic and accuse you of hate. That is liberalspeak for "you've got me, and I don't want to talk about this anymore."

Heck, you and I just went at it on gun control, as did Detbuch and I...

I'm more then willing to engage you in this debate - but which one:

A) your partisian hate
B) If they killed the story bc Harvey supported liberal causes.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 06:53 AM
Bill Clinton is a serial predator of women, and is a hero of the left.

Is that sentence true or false?

we have plenty of perverts on my side. They are generally hounded from our midst when outed as such...I don't know of a conservative who is a serial abuser of women, who is hailed as a feminist hero.

Faux news?

How are their ratings? Who on the right doesn't watch them any more? The evangelicals who voted for the 3x married womanizer, who lies constantly and bragged about assualting woman?

Is this the debate you want to have?

JohnR
10-16-2017, 07:16 AM
They (NBC and not NYT) admitted that they didn't run it bc they didn't have proof?

So you want them to run it w/o proof bc Harvey was a liberal?

Youre hate will never end.

NBC News President Noah Oppenheim is reported to have repeatedly come up with excuses to not run Farrow's story about Weinstein. By July, Farrow and NBC News Investigative Producer Rich McHugh were ordered to take an unusual step before running their story — make sure that it would receive approval from NBC News Chairman Andy Lack after being reviewed by Steve Burke, executive vice president of Comcast and president and CEO of NBCUniversal. This was an incredibly unusual request given NBC's normal protocol.

Still, Farrow steadily accumulated evidence of Weinstein's allegedly predatory behavior. In January, he obtained an on-the-record interview with actress Rose McGowan, discussing her accusations against Weinstein. In March, Farrow had obtained secretly recorded audio footage of Weinstein confessing to having sexually assaulted model Ambra Battilana Gutierrez. In July, Farrow had also scored on-camera interviews with accusers and interviews with former Miramax and Weinstein Co. executives. Finally, as of August, Farrow had filmed, out of his own pocket, an anonymous woman who discussed on camera how she had been raped by Weinstein.

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/12/nbc-killed-the-harvey-weinstein-story-report/

Pretty much what has been said.

I expect that the "normal" media will flay Murphy - they should. I also expect the media will not cover the Menendez bribery trial much because he is a dem. I expect that SNL will avoid Weinstein and flay Trump.

Would be nice if everyone was held to equal standards

spence
10-16-2017, 07:17 AM
The evangelicals who voted for the 3x married womanizer, who lies constantly and bragged about assualting woman?

Is this the debate you want to have?
It is pretty amazing. Trump is in the extreme when it comes to ethics and evangelicals seem to love him simply because he's willing to say Marry Christmas in a public place.
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Nebe
10-16-2017, 07:20 AM
It is pretty amazing. Trump is in the extreme when it comes to ethics and evangelicals seem to love him simply because he's willing to say Marry Christmas in a public place.
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No Spence. You got it wrong. They love him because he oozes racism and bigotry and while he says “America first” they know he also means “Christianity first”.
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PaulS
10-16-2017, 07:40 AM
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I expect that the "normal" media will flay Murphy - they should. I also expect the media will not cover the Menendez bribery trial much because he is a dem. I expect that SNL will avoid Weinstein and flay Trump.

Would be nice if everyone was held to equal standards

Isn't that what Jim is not doing?

I have yet to see that the NYT hid the story like Jim stated - in fact, they broke it.

NBC has said that the story wasn't buttoned up - and others (on both sides) are criticizing them for not running w/it earlier.

Menendez has been covered extensively in the NYT and I can show you lots of links to it.

SNL skewered Weinstein this past week and said he should be in jail.

Murphy was covered last week and haven't seen anything since.

scottw
10-16-2017, 07:46 AM
It is pretty amazing. Trump is in the extreme when it comes to ethics and evangelicals seem to love him simply because he's willing to say Marry Christmas in a public place.
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clearly!


Marry Christmas Spence :lm:

scottw
10-16-2017, 07:48 AM
some of you guys really need new shticks......

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 08:04 AM
They (NBC and not NYT) admitted that they didn't run it bc they didn't have proof?

So you want them to run it w/o proof bc Harvey was a liberal?

Youre hate will never end.

Your reading comprehension is off. I want their standards of "proof", to be the same for Republicans as it is for Democrats. Today, it's not. Not even close.

The NYT and NBC routinely post stories about Republicans based on a single, un-verified source.

The NYT ran a front-page story that John McCain's adopted black daughter, was actually his biological daughter from an affair. And as far as Trump goes, I remember reading recently that Trump was going to increase our nuclear capacity tenfold, turns out that wasn't true. They will go with any story that makes a Republican look bad, especially Trump.

"Youre hate desire for fairness will never end"

Fixed it for you.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 08:13 AM
Isn't that what Jim is not doing?

I have yet to see that the NYT hid the story like Jim stated - in fact, they broke it.

NBC has said that the story wasn't buttoned up - and others (on both sides) are criticizing them for not running w/it earlier.

Menendez has been covered extensively in the NYT and I can show you lots of links to it.

SNL skewered Weinstein this past week and said he should be in jail.

Murphy was covered last week and haven't seen anything since.

"NBC has said that the story wasn't buttoned up - and others (on both sides) are criticizing them for not running w/it earlier. "

And Salon, not exactly a conservative outlet, said NBC was holding that one story to unusually high standards of verifiability. Then SNL cut their jokes about Weinstein, because Lorne Micheals said "it's a New York thing". what the heck does that mean? Trump used to live in New York, they have no trouble poking fun at him, do they?

As for the NYT, here you go...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2017/10/09/report-matt-damon-helped-kill-earlier-new-york-times-story-about-harvey-weinstein/2TDJnvLT0eDq9HhuvdmXjP/story.html

From the article...

"Sharon Waxman writes that, as a reporter for The New York Times in 2004, she looked into allegations of sexual misconduct by Weinstein, and the role and responsibilities of a man named Fabrizio Lombardo, who was head of Miramax Italy but had no discernible experience or expertise in film and, according to Waxman’s reporting, was on the payroll merely to help Weinstein procure women.

“After intense pressure from Weinstein, which included having Matt Damon and Russell Crowe call me directly to vouch for Lombardo and unknown discussions well above my head at the Times, the story was gutted,” Waxman writes.

I bet it's all just another vast right-wing conspiracy.

Fauxnews has nothing to do with this. This is about liberals in the media, who are happy to portray Trump as an abuser of women, but who previously bent over backwards to prevent multiple liberals from being outed as such (the Kennedys, Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, etc...). It has nothing to do with me, it has nothing to do with Fauxnews (ha ha ha, that never gets old). It's about liberal hypocrisy, and about your inability, and Spence's inability, and WDMSO's inability, to ever admit your side has ethical lapses, or is ever guilty of hypocrisy. Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Try. Making. That. Wrong.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 08:16 AM
Isn't that what Jim is not doing?



No, it's the opposite of what I am doing. Meaning, you could not be more wrong. I am not engaging in partisan double standards, I am calling out those who do so.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 08:20 AM
How are their ratings? Who on the right doesn't watch them any more? The evangelicals who voted for the 3x married womanizer, who lies constantly and bragged about assualting woman?

Is this the debate you want to have?

Yes, this is the debate I want. Because most people on my side will admit that Trump, personally, is not a good guy. It's your side, not my side, who refuses to call out the creeps on their side.

I want this debate, because I cannot lose this debate. It would be harder for me to win a debate with someone who is pro-slavery, than to win this debate.

Paul: NBC and the NYT didn't bury anything.

Jim and John R provide evidence that they did.

Paul: Oh, yeah? Well what about Fauxnews, and Jim's all-consuming hate?

Yes, I am truly nervous about this debate.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 08:29 AM
Your reading comprehension is off. I want their standards of "proof", to be the same for Republicans as it is for Democrats. Today, it's not. Not even close.So you use an example from what 10 years ago?

The NYT and NBC routinely post stories about Republicans based on a single, un-verified source.

The NYT ran a front-page story that John McCain's adopted black daughter, was actually his biological daughter from an affair. And as far as Trump goes, I remember reading recently that Trump was going to increase our nuclear capacity tenfold, turns out that wasn't true. They will go with any story that makes a Republican look bad, especially Trump.

"Youre hate desire for fairness will never end"

Fixed it for you.

I got a laugh at the highlighted line - use a story from what 10 years ago. When Fox news covered the Pizzagate story, I didn't see any outrage from you.

And again, pls. show me a link that the NYT "buried the story for years" like you claimed.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 08:34 AM
"NBC has said that the story wasn't buttoned up - and others (on both sides) are criticizing them for not running w/it earlier. "

And Salon, not exactly a conservative outlet, said NBC was holding that one story to unusually high standards of verifiability. Then SNL cut their jokes about Weinstein, because Lorne Micheals said "it's a New York thing". what the heck does that mean? Trump used to live in New York, they have no trouble poking fun at him, do they?Do I have to explain the difference bt a Hollywood director and the Pres. of the US to you?

SNL ran skits w/Harvey this week including say he should be in jail - you are reading last week's news when they tried out some jokes that fell flat and they thought the audience didn't know who he was so they cut them.

As for the NYT, here you go...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2017/10/09/report-matt-damon-helped-kill-earlier-new-york-times-story-about-harvey-weinstein/2TDJnvLT0eDq9HhuvdmXjP/story.html

From the article...

"Sharon Waxman writes that, as a reporter for The New York Times in 2004, she looked into allegations of sexual misconduct by Weinstein, and the role and responsibilities of a man named Fabrizio Lombardo, who was head of Miramax Italy but had no discernible experience or expertise in film and, according to Waxman’s reporting, was on the payroll merely to help Weinstein procure women.

“After intense pressure from Weinstein, which included having Matt Damon and Russell Crowe call me directly to vouch for Lombardo and unknown discussions well above my head at the Times, the story was gutted,” Waxman writes.

I bet it's all just another vast right-wing conspiracy.And the editor for the Times said he could not even remember being approached for the story. You're ignoring that they BROKE the story.

Fauxnews has nothing to do with this. This is about liberals in the media, who are happy to portray Trump as an abuser of women, but who previously bent over backwards to prevent multiple liberals from being outed as such (the Kennedys, Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, etc...). It has nothing to do with me, it has nothing to do with Fauxnews (ha ha ha, that never gets old). It's about liberal hypocrisy, and about your inability, and Spence's inability, and WDMSO's inability, to ever admit your side has ethical lapses, or is ever guilty of hypocrisy. Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Try. Making. That. Wrong.

Your hypocrisy (how many times have we discussed that :whackin:) in ignoring Faux news has everything to do with this. You constantly ignore 1 side and only discuss the other side because it fits your agenda.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 08:37 AM
Yes, this is the debate I want. Because most people on my side will admit that Trump, personally, is not a good guy. It's your side, not my side, who refuses to call out the creeps on their side.But "your" side voted for him enough to put him in the Presidency. They had plenty of other choices.

I want this debate, because I cannot lose this debate. It would be harder for me to win a debate with someone who is pro-slavery, than to win this debate.

Paul: NBC and the NYT didn't bury anything.

Jim and John R provide evidence that they did.That is no evidence - it is just 1 person saying that. So that is no evidence that the NYT "buried the story for years" like you stated or that they "admitted" they buried it.

Paul: Oh, yeah? Well what about Fauxnews, and Jim's all-consuming hate?Yes, a constant theme here - your hate.

Yes, I am truly nervous about this debate.

Enought hate to call a woman the C word and Pres. Obama a POS. .

PaulS
10-16-2017, 09:00 AM
No, it's the opposite of what I am doing. Meaning, you could not be more wrong. I am not engaging in partisan double standards, I am calling out those who do so.

But the double standards is exactly what you constantly do here.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 09:03 AM
The NYT ran a front-page story that John McCain's adopted black daughter, was actually his biological daughter from an affair. And as far as Trump goes, I remember reading recently that Trump was going to increase our nuclear capacity tenfold, turns out that wasn't true. They will go with any story that makes a Republican look bad, especially Trump.



If I remember correctly the story was first created during the Bush McCain primary in one of the southern states when fliers started showing up on people's doors w/the story. It was thought that it was one of that sleazy Republican operative Lee Atwater moves. McCain had been winning some of the primaries bf this and he got trounced in this state.

The Dad Fisherman
10-16-2017, 09:06 AM
things that make you go hmmmm...

PaulS
10-16-2017, 09:43 AM
At least you can see where his hands are in the picture.

The Dad Fisherman
10-16-2017, 10:11 AM
At least you can see where his hands are in the picture.

I think he was the decoy. Notice neither one of their husbands is around.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 11:01 AM
Paul -

I used one from ten years ago, and one from two weeks ago. Recently, they also said Trumps chief of staff was about to quit, no truth to that. Again, if you want to deny that the liberal media is out to get Trump, you can say that all day long. Not many people agree with you, just the zealots.

Oh, you don't like the difference between a Hollywood director and POTUS?? OK, let's talk about Bill Clinton. How is he portrayed in the liberal media, compared to Trump? Or Ted Kennedy, for that matter? My side is waging the "war on women", yet Ted Kennedy is the only one with a confirmed kill in that war. And Bill Clinton has some lofty achievements as well. But your side cares about women, and my side is sexist. That makes all kinds of sense.

"SNL ran skits with Harvey"...after first cutting those jokes because "it's a New York thing", and getting all kinds of criticism. Their initial reaction, was to ignore it.

"just 1 person saying that". Matt Damon freely admitted that he called the NYT, at Weinstein's request, to paint the situation in a less disgusting light.

Are you feeling OK? You are willfully ignoring a lot of facts here. I mean, a lot.

"enough to call a woman the c word"...so no woman, has ever earned that description? Not one? Ever?

"and the president a POS". Again, I can give you as many examples as you want, of his acting just like a POS. I can also say Trump is a morally bankrupt jerk. Because unlike you, I can be honest about those on my side.

"Your side voted for Trump". Sure. And your side voted for Hilary, who is as crummy a person as Trump is. Integrity wasn't on the ballot on 2016. It was a choice between 2 morally bankrupt, truly rotten people. One of them, in my opinion, has superior opinions on the things that matter to me. So while I had to plug my nose in the booth, it was an easy choice. As yours was to you.

"Bu the double standards is exactly what you constantly do here".

Name one example. I criticize Republicans all the time. Can you point to one example, where I gave a Republican a pass, for doing the same thing, for which I criticized a Democrat?

PaulS
10-16-2017, 11:17 AM
Matt Damon responded on Tuesday to claims that Harvey Weinstein asked him to help kill a New York Times story about Weinstein’s history of sexual harassment that was allegedly in the works more than a decade before the bombshell reports published over the past few days.
The Wrap founder Sharon Waxman alleged while she was reporting for the New York Times in 2004, Weinstein requested Damon call her to speak positively about producer Fabrizio Lombardo, who was thought to be involved in setting Weinstein up with women.
In an interview with Deadline on Tuesday, Damon said he was unaware of what Waxman’s story was about when he called. “For the record, I would never, ever, ever try to kill a story like that,” Damon told Deadline. “I just wouldn’t do that. It’s not something I would do, for anybody.”
Waxman has since endorsed Damon’s statement. “He called me briefly, wasn’t informed — nor [should] he have been — [about] investigative aspect of piece,” she wrote on Twitter.
I endorse Matt Damon's statement. He called me briefly,wasn't informed – nor shld he have been – abt investigative aspect of piece. @thewrap https://t.co/kTbOdYY7C8
— Sharon Waxman (@sharonwaxman) October 10, 2017
This comes after the Times dismissed Waxman’s claims that the paper spiked her story because of pressure from Weinstein. “Sharon has now had more than a decade to pursue this story unencumbered by me or any New York Times editor,” Jonathan Landman, a former Times editor, told Politico. “Why, if she had the goods on Weinstein in 2004, has she been unable or unwilling to publish something in the Wrap, where she was in charge? Could it be because she didn’t actually have the goods then, now or in between?”

Gabby Giffords and Steve Scalise.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 11:41 AM
Paul S -

"Gabby Giffords and Steve Scalise"

Please be very specific, about what you are saying my hypocrisy is here. You didn't mention any details, naturally.

I presume you accuse me of being happy when Democrats are shot, but angry when Republicans are shot? You have any evidence of that claim, or is it a fabricated cheap shot?

PaulS
10-16-2017, 12:30 PM
Paul S -

"Gabby Giffords and Steve Scalise"

Please be very specific, about what you are saying my hypocrisy is here. You didn't mention any details, naturally.

I presume you accuse me of being happy when Democrats are shot, but angry when Republicans are shot? You have any evidence of that claim, or is it a fabricated cheap shot?

Go back and do a search on those 2 names.

Nobody has to fabricate anything with you.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 12:49 PM
Go back and do a search on those 2 names.

Nobody has to fabricate anything with you.

I did, search, and I guess my search skills aren't up to par with yours. Because I found nothing that would lead anyone to conclude that I support the notion of assassinating democrats.

How about this Paul, you post something I said, which honestly suggests that I like the idea of assassinating democrats...and I will give you $100, and I will send it today.

If I ever stated, or even implied, that I want democrats to be murdered, I apologize sincerely. If I never said any such thing (and I don't believe I did) you might refrain from suggesting that I did.

"Nobody has to fabricate anything with you"

Well, let's see what evidence you have, that this accusation, wasn't a figment of your imagination.

PaulS
10-16-2017, 01:46 PM
I did, search, and I guess my search skills aren't up to par with yours. Because I found nothing that would lead anyone to conclude that I support the notion of assassinating democrats.I don't think anyone has ever said you support the assasination of a Dem. what you did is you you blame the Dems for Scalise and don't blame the Reps. for Gifford when they were both the actions of a deranged person.

How about this Paul, you post something I said, which honestly suggests that I like the idea of assassinating democrats...and I will give you $100, and I will send it today.

If I ever stated, or even implied, that I want democrats to be murdered, I apologize sincerely. If I never said any such thing (and I don't believe I did) you might refrain from suggesting that I did.

"Nobody has to fabricate anything with you"

Well, let's see what evidence you have, that this accusation, wasn't a figment of your imagination.:jump:

You constantly blame the whole Dem. party for something you don't like (that almost all of us might find wrong or distasteful) and when someone points out examples of the samething done by Reps, you always try saying "it is different bc" and then you try splitting hairs. It is no different.

Jim in CT
10-16-2017, 02:25 PM
You constantly blame the whole Dem. party for something you don't like (that almost all of us might find wrong or distasteful) and when someone points out examples of the samething done by Reps, you always try saying "it is different bc" and then you try splitting hairs. It is no different.

Ok Paul.

For the record, both sides have jerks, perverts, a-holes, crooks, liars, etc. Neither side has a monopoly on character flaws.

Both sides also have folks that demonize the other side. But if you look at each party at the national level, if you look at the political media types, I do feel that the democrats are far more likely to demonize the other side. I don't watch Foxnews at night anymore, but I'd bet my 401k that if you watched Fox and MSNBC from 8-11, you'd see far more hate on MSNBC, I don't think it would even be close.

And I think that has consequences. For example, why are 95% of politically-motivated riots (if not more), carried out by liberals? Why can liberals say whatever they want on college campuses, but conservatives cannot?

And I'm sorry, but if you take issue with generalizations like "Democrats like to tax and spend", you need to lighten up. I concede that not every single liberal likes to tax and spend. But most support that position. There are stereotypes on both sides that generally, hold up. I'm just too lazy to put a disclaimer in every time I make an observation...