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Fergal 11-04-2017, 08:13 AM I have 2 cts blanks on order, 11’ VT 3-6 & 4-8. I’m already thinking about guide layouts for those. I might try the RVs.
2 cts flyrods 9 & 10wts will be some.
And finally, a few conventional boat rods that have been half done for 2 years. Maybe I will get to finish them this year.
chefchris401 11-04-2017, 10:09 AM I loved my cts vt 4-8, rod threw loaded redfins to 6oz and whole 18” eel while shark fishing.
Heard the 3-6 is a great rod as well, couple buddies have it and love it
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pbadad 11-04-2017, 08:06 PM Those RV guides worked well on a couple 9 & 10' rods with VS & VR150. See no reason with the 25 pushed out 34-36" a 2.5 - 2.75" spool wouldn't work. I have a CTS 903-1 to build and. 10' 1003-1. Not for me but a friend. I think he's using ZB22.
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chefchris401 11-04-2017, 10:48 PM Only have a few rods planned
Lami honey 136, cut to 10’6” going to build it for a drilled out custom penn I scored, will be a nice beach/back bay pencil rod/metal lip/soft plastics
Looking at the ODM nex1 11’ 2-6 as a possible build for the surf
Need to build some designated canal rods, century 1329 and ODM jigster
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pbadad 11-05-2017, 01:14 AM I have an old 40+ 1363m cut to 10'6". Was my first rod wrap redo. It's a beast. Use it now very sparingly for chunking. No reel seat and 6 guide cone of flight. Started out as my plugging but no longer as these arms age.
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Fergal 11-05-2017, 06:59 AM I have the odm nex1 3/4-4 and it is a very nice rod.
The rod that I’ve been using most of the fall was a ~11’6” 2-4 VT. It was formerly 12’ that I absolutely hated. Way too light at the tip. I ended up taking about 6” off the tip and luckily that worked.
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pbadad 11-05-2017, 08:05 AM Drew what size tip tube did u end up using after the cut? I cut back a members 4-8 which snapped the tip off. Once I got back to a non shredded spot then proportioned the second guide distance , I ended up using a #9 tube tip. I feels beefier but not like a telephone pole. I feel this may be an improvement over the stock dimention , especially with heavier loads. The length decreased by approximately 5".
Fergal 11-05-2017, 08:11 AM I think it was a 7 to start and then an 8 after trimming.
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Fergal 11-23-2017, 10:43 AM i just oredered the components for this. both blanks will have rv set-ups (rv25-16) then kw10-kw/kt8 for runners. the 3-6 will have the kt, the 4-8 the kw.
pbadad 11-23-2017, 03:19 PM Interested how the big spools cast thru the 25. I have an extra kw10m for the third reduction guide.
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Fergal 11-23-2017, 05:17 PM the 10 above is actually a 'm'.
the one that i did for a vs200 last year is fine, that was 25-12-8m-8 runners.
some of the guides are on backorder. i'm hoping that the blanks ship before the holidays so i can start right after teh new year.
ps - when i was thinking about using the the kl's on the build i did last year the ring size was a concern. deep down i still think about the old cof rods, ~5 guides - 40-30-25-20-16-tip... going with the smaller guides does still seem foreign to me. a few things were 'comforting' tho. if i were using kw's i'd be starting with a 30, the kl/rv 25 is only 3.7mm shorter in overall height but the bottom of the ring is slightly higher with the kl/rv vs the kw. so, the ring size is small and the guide slightly shorter but it does keep the line a bit more off the blank.
i will play around with the builds but i think in the end casting will be at best equal and maybe better than the kw.
but it still doesn't seem right to me. old habits die hard.
Fergal 12-11-2017, 07:52 AM some of the components are here, still waiting on the blanks. if the blanks don't ship in ~the next week it will be after the holidays.
pbadad 12-11-2017, 09:27 PM Should be a sweet build. I did a FiberStar for Rob with the titanium RV 's.
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tlapinski 12-12-2017, 08:24 AM I have 2, maybe 3 builds that I would like to get to this year. I have a CTS VT 4-8 blank that JLH wants as a back-up. For myself I am still considering an ODM Jigster for big stuff. I fished a factory build a few times this fall and liked the range it could throw but was not very happy with the build itself so I am hoping that building it "my way" will fix my concerns. Also been wanting to build a Lami BT 108 3M for several years but haven't been able to find one to actually put in my hands to verify that it is in fact what I want.
pbadad 12-17-2017, 08:34 AM Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?
Fergal 12-17-2017, 02:53 PM got all the guides for the 4-8 (pics below). the remaining guides for the 3-6 have shipped. now all i need are the blanks... i'm guessing it will be january at this point since cts is supposed to close for the holidays.
tlapinski 12-18-2017, 07:14 AM Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?
The 1-piece blank.
pbadad 12-18-2017, 06:25 PM 1 piece. Nice. I sold my last one. Have a spigot here. I'll install spigot inside reel seat dimensions. It s the first design split at 24". Now CTS ships no lengths over 3 meters and places spigot @28". For the most parts, that should work for majority of people . Should place reel stem in the 26"range.
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Fergal 12-18-2017, 07:17 PM Should have picked one (more) of the 1pc blanks along the wAy.
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pbadad 12-18-2017, 07:35 PM Drew, all ti frames?
Fergal 12-19-2017, 07:35 AM Drew, all ti frames?
yes
pbadad 12-19-2017, 10:06 AM yes
That is going to feel light air. If it was a 2 piece VT,, the tip section would weigh under 3oz. Using a 200 for reel?
Fergal 12-19-2017, 11:26 AM i'm going to try a few different reels on the 3-6: vs200, saltiga 4500 & 5500. i'm hoping to find a compromise that will work with all three reels.
Fergal 12-25-2017, 09:53 AM from last year, for wt comparison - kw30-25-20-12-8*4-tip, torzite.
pbadad 12-25-2017, 05:46 PM Amazing 23 gr difference. 3/4 oz.
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Fergal 12-28-2017, 07:24 AM The handle on the 10wt is done. I'm going to do the 9wt handle next, then wrap. The cork work makes too much of a mess to have to clean up twice.
pbadad 12-28-2017, 05:38 PM Very nice contours. I also have to make a blind to keep dust going into vac.
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Fergal 12-28-2017, 06:18 PM I should probably do that. It makes a hell of a mess without own.
A hell of a mess...
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Fergal 01-02-2018, 09:46 PM the handle for the 9wt is glued up. the butt and reelseat went on tonight. slowly making progress.
Fergal 01-06-2018, 04:32 PM Still need to do a little more work but they're good enough for now.
pbadad 01-12-2018, 01:16 PM Epoxied the 2 pieces on the VT 4-8. Used Roddancer 2 part. Solid like 1 piece. I spined the tip section and the imprint rod name seems to be on the spine. One thing I advise, remove rubber tip protector. Exhausts trapped air in blank to keeps both pieces together . I didn't realize there was a plug on tip and the 2 halves didn't like each other. LOL. Repelling like two a like magnetic poles.
Fergal 01-13-2018, 07:39 AM I am still waiting on my vt's. I was hoping to have them by now. I should finish the first flyrod tomorrow I hope. The 9wt is up first, then the 10.
Fergal 01-14-2018, 06:00 PM the 9wt is wrapped. the single foot snakes are a beotch to get on.
Fergal 01-14-2018, 06:01 PM last 2
pbadad 01-14-2018, 08:18 PM Being so thin i could see it being a bitch. How bout guide adhesive?
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Fergal 01-17-2018, 07:47 AM My VTs are finally in. They're at the distributor, I should have them in a few days. These have the 'new' ferrules.
Still making very slow progress on the flyrods. Dragging arse this winter.
pbadad 01-17-2018, 12:49 PM My VTs are finally in. They're at the distributor, I should have them in a few days. These have the 'new' ferrules.
Still making very slow progress on the flyrods. Dragging arse this winter.
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Fergal 01-21-2018, 09:14 PM pics of the 9wt section prior to finish. the rod is about 1oz heavier than a comparable 9wt. the cts is lighter for the tip and mid section but heavier in the butt section. that is somewhat on purpose. first, i may take the handle down a little more so the weight may change. i purposely left the handle a bit larger to better accommodate my hand. the grips on commercially available rods are a little smaller than i would like (i think).
Fergal 01-21-2018, 09:17 PM last two. the bottom grip in the one photo compares my grip to my current favorite 9wt (CF Burkheimer).
ps - the vt's should arrive wed or thurs. i might start on one of those this weekend.
tlapinski 01-25-2018, 10:15 AM Two maybe three more builds added to my list for the winter. First up is a GSB 1321 MH for a Canal friend as he found a local source for it. Depending on how it feels I might build one for myself. Then I added the new ODM NEX1 3-8 to my builds after checking one out of the weekend at the CT Surfcasters show. It looks like the Lami BT 108 3M will be put off for another year unless I find one locally and really like how it feels as I still want to put my hands on one before buying the blank.
tlapinski 02-05-2018, 10:14 AM Laid down the grips and taped the guides onto the 1321mh this weekend, waiting for the backyard to dry up a little for a few test casts.
wdmso 02-05-2018, 11:44 AM I have a custom 20 plus year old Red top custom Lamiglass Honey no reel seat conventional 8104 inside the blank . at 8ft the buts to long for a boat rod its 28 inch from the fore grip to butt .. must of been a jigging rod any ideas or suggestions
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