Today was, with bi-partisan condemnation, a terrible day (week) for our country, engineered by the president of the United States in collusion with a primary US adversary.

I'm not sure yet if it meets the legal definition of treason but it's certainly the behavior of a traitor.

Spare me the snark, I'd like to see anyone justify Trump's actions.

Even if there was no collusion directly with the Russians in 2016, clearly there was collusion at the summit. I’d suggest their two hour private meeting was to get their stories straight, because they mirrored each other in all respects. So very embarrassing, so frightening, so unpresidential and so un American. Unbelievable to see our president lick the boots of the very man who ordered the 2016 attack on us. Good luck base trying to make this summit anything other than it was.
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Even if there was no collusion directly with the Russians in 2016, clearly there was collusion at the summit. I’d suggest their two hour private meeting was to get their stories straight, because they mirrored each other in all respects. So very embarrassing, so frightening, so unpresidential and so un American. Unbelievable to see our president lick the boots of the very man who ordered the 2016 attack on us. Good luck base trying to make this summit anything other than it was.
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Trump Jr released his own emails confirming collusion with Russians during the campaign. People can debate the impact or Trump's involvement but the issue of collusion is pretty clear. It did happen.

This pales when compared to trading prisoners for the tranny traitor.
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Today was, with bi-partisan condemnation, a terrible day (week) for our country, engineered by the president of the United States in collusion with a primary US adversary.

I'm not sure yet if it meets the legal definition of treason but it's certainly the behavior of a traitor.

Spare me the snark, I'd like to see anyone justify Trump's actions.

Did something actually happen at the summit? What actions? What policy was made?

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Did something actually happen at the summit? What actions? What policy was made?

We should know but an ill advised one on one meeting was agreed to, so only the Trump spin will tell if anything concrete happened.

I can tell you what didn't happen. This country caught the hackers red handed, with the trail leading directly to the head of the snake Putin, documenting an attack on our democracy and our country, yet our CLOWN (POTUS) not only stated to the world he believed Putin that there was no Russian hacking; he threw all of our intelligence community under the buss.

I've already heard the obvious Trump supporter canned comeback on the other thread, blaming Obama without any condemnation of Trump's shameful licking of the boots of the leader of a decades old foe attacking our democracy and way of life. What about Obama, what about Clinton; what about TRUMP?

no turning point . they are in bunker mode

Wasn't crazy about the news conference. But I haven't seen the transcripts or heard any dialog of what happened at the summit meeting?

Wasn't crazy about the news conference. But I haven't seen the transcripts or heard any dialog of what happened at the summit meeting?




The parts I heard were pretty bad. Though it was not the Pearl Harbor some were claiming it to be. But it was bad.

The parts I heard were pretty bad. Though it was not the Pearl Harbor some were claiming it to be. But it was bad.

Meanwhile in Newburyport....

https://www.facebook.com/events/249923209132327/

Did something actually happen at the summit? What actions? What policy was made?
Just a meeting with his financial backer whom he owes bigtime, hiding in plain sight.
Follow the money

Though Trump has never succeeded in developing property in Russia, his company has benefited significantly from Russian money in the form of its clientele. For example, according to a Bloomberg investigation into Trump World Tower, which broke ground in 1998, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.” Trump World Tower sales agent Debra Stotts told Bloomberg that they had “big buyers from Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan.” New York real estate broker Dolly Lenz sold “about 65 units in Trump World Tower […] to Russian buyers looking for real estate.” Lenz is quoted as saying “I had contacts in Moscow looking to invest in the United States […] what do you have to recommend?’ They all wanted to meet Donald. They became very friendly.” In 2002, “the push to sell units in Trump World to Russians expanded,” when Sotheby’s International Realty reportedly teams up with Kirsanova Realty, a Russian company.

The Trump Organization reportedly welcomed the Russian clientele. For example, a 2013 article in The Nation about the influx of Russian money in Miami real estate noted that Elena Baronoff, a Russian-American socialite once described on the cover of a Russian magazine as “The Russian Hand of Donald Trump,” operated a real-estate company catering to Eastern European buyers out of the lobby of the city’s Trump International Beach Resort. The New Republic has also extensively documented how the Trump Organization actively sought Russian buyers, so much so that the area around Trump Sunny Isles in Florida became known as “Little Moscow.” Within Trump’s Florida licensing developments, Reuters identified a total of twenty units in Trump Towers I, II, and III that were purchased by individuals with Russian passports or addresses. Individuals with Russian passports or addresses also purchased sixteen units in Trump Palace, twenty-seven units in Trump Royale, and thirteen units in Trump Hollywood. Trump accepted Russian money on a personal level, as well; Russian fertilizer magnate Dmitry Rybolovlev’s 2008 purchased of one of Trump’s mansions in Palm Beach for $53 million more than Trump had paid for it four years earlier. Some of these Russian buyers have brought more than just money to the Trump Organization—they’ve also brought links to Russian organized crime. In 1984, a Russian by the name of David Bogatin purchased five condos in Trump Tower for a total of $6 million. Bogatin, who was linked to Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich, pleaded guilty three years later to “evading millions of dollars in state fuel taxes in what state officials called one of the largest gasoline bootlegging operations in the nation.” The five condos were seized by the government, who claimed that he had used the purchase to launder money. Separately, In April 2013, New York police arrested “29 suspects in two gambling rings” run out of condos in Trump Tower. A condo directly below a unit owned by Trump reportedly “served as the headquarters for a ‘sophisticated money-laundering scheme’” run by an individual who worked for Semion Mogilevich. Until he began running for president, Trump not only did not deny his extensive dealings with Russian investors and clients but actually spoke about it frequently, boasting of the amount of Russian money that flowed through his projects in numerous interviews. So, too, did his sons, Donald Jr. and Eric: In 2008, Donald Jr. told investors in Moscow that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” while Eric reportedly told a golf reporter in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

This pales when compared to trading prisoners for the tranny traitor.
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its hard to keep track of all the miss information on the web

Bowe Bergdahl To Plead Guilty To Desertion and Misbehavior Before The Enemy


Chelsea Elizabeth Manning (born Bradley Edward Manning,convicted by court-martial in July 2013 of violations of the Espionage Act and other offenses, after disclosing to WikiLeaks nearly 750,000 classified, or unclassified but sensitive, military and diplomatic documents

same Wikileaks the GOP Trump and his supporters love

Meanwhile in Newburyport....

https://www.facebook.com/events/249923209132327/

If my history is correct the GOP held impeachment hearings against Clinton for lying under oath for a blow Job.... I recall the outrage

Clearly Trump has yet to Lie under oath (he'll never speak under oath )

I would not call his press conference Treasonous but based on that performance I can see his arrogance and his reliance on him self as the his best advisor he and his people could have and most likely were Unwitting Co-conspirators

Intent will be a mute point ignorance of the law will not be a defense

the totality of the evidence will be hard to explain away

and yet all I here from Trump supporters is were is the proo

f 1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to

I never saw that same requirement with the BENGHAZI investigation was more than two-year investigation, encompassing 33 hearings held in congressional investigations and four public hearings, at an estimated cost of $7 million Republicans once again failed to find a smoking gun to pin the tragedy on Clinton or anyone else

But this is a witch hunt

The parts I heard were pretty bad. Though it was not the Pearl Harbor some were claiming it to be. But it was bad.

Pearl Harbor, Kristallnacht, 911....good grief...:hihi:


politics has become religion...ironically transformed by many of the same people who insist that religion has no place politics...if you don't conform you are a heretic...true believers run around repeating memorized lines from their version of the good book believing that their devotion makes them better, smarter and in charge of all the unassailable facts and knowledge on virtually any subject....sharing a meme or cutting and pasting establishes undeniable facts...inescapable from every aspect of society now...strangely devoid of a sense of humor and seemingly ready to pounce at any opportunity to prove moral superiority....conditioned human robots staring and their phones all day getting marching orders from the Matrix...lots of zealots with lips moving so fast the ears don't work....

it's actually pretty amusing when you step away and watch the circus...but it's probably not going to end well as these things tend to go

it would be impossible to watch that and be inspired by it, or to gain confidence from it. it was bad
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it would be impossible to watch that and be inspired by it, or to gain confidence from it. it was bad
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stop defending him!!!

https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1018994921796194304/photo/1

Perfect cover.
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stop defending him!!!

can’t help it.
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While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!

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when you find yourself in a hole they say stop digging .. Trump say's keep digging until you come out the other side

Yeah all the fake news, countless republicans, Democrats, even his own state news station Fox News have gotten it all wrong; I guess we were all tuned into the wrong media coverage. I know he isn’t a big drinker, but something is severely clouding his judgement 🤮
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Just a meeting with his financial backer whom he owes bigtime, hiding in plain sight.
Follow the money

Though Trump has never succeeded in developing property in Russia, his company has benefited significantly from Russian money in the form of its clientele. For example, according to a Bloomberg investigation into Trump World Tower, which broke ground in 1998, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.” Trump World Tower sales agent Debra Stotts told Bloomberg that they had “big buyers from Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan.” New York real estate broker Dolly Lenz sold “about 65 units in Trump World Tower […] to Russian buyers looking for real estate.” Lenz is quoted as saying “I had contacts in Moscow looking to invest in the United States […] what do you have to recommend?’ They all wanted to meet Donald. They became very friendly.” In 2002, “the push to sell units in Trump World to Russians expanded,” when Sotheby’s International Realty reportedly teams up with Kirsanova Realty, a Russian company.

The Trump Organization reportedly welcomed the Russian clientele. For example, a 2013 article in The Nation about the influx of Russian money in Miami real estate noted that Elena Baronoff, a Russian-American socialite once described on the cover of a Russian magazine as “The Russian Hand of Donald Trump,” operated a real-estate company catering to Eastern European buyers out of the lobby of the city’s Trump International Beach Resort. The New Republic has also extensively documented how the Trump Organization actively sought Russian buyers, so much so that the area around Trump Sunny Isles in Florida became known as “Little Moscow.” Within Trump’s Florida licensing developments, Reuters identified a total of twenty units in Trump Towers I, II, and III that were purchased by individuals with Russian passports or addresses. Individuals with Russian passports or addresses also purchased sixteen units in Trump Palace, twenty-seven units in Trump Royale, and thirteen units in Trump Hollywood. Trump accepted Russian money on a personal level, as well; Russian fertilizer magnate Dmitry Rybolovlev’s 2008 purchased of one of Trump’s mansions in Palm Beach for $53 million more than Trump had paid for it four years earlier. Some of these Russian buyers have brought more than just money to the Trump Organization—they’ve also brought links to Russian organized crime. In 1984, a Russian by the name of David Bogatin purchased five condos in Trump Tower for a total of $6 million. Bogatin, who was linked to Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich, pleaded guilty three years later to “evading millions of dollars in state fuel taxes in what state officials called one of the largest gasoline bootlegging operations in the nation.” The five condos were seized by the government, who claimed that he had used the purchase to launder money. Separately, In April 2013, New York police arrested “29 suspects in two gambling rings” run out of condos in Trump Tower. A condo directly below a unit owned by Trump reportedly “served as the headquarters for a ‘sophisticated money-laundering scheme’” run by an individual who worked for Semion Mogilevich. Until he began running for president, Trump not only did not deny his extensive dealings with Russian investors and clients but actually spoke about it frequently, boasting of the amount of Russian money that flowed through his projects in numerous interviews. So, too, did his sons, Donald Jr. and Eric: In 2008, Donald Jr. told investors in Moscow that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” while Eric reportedly told a golf reporter in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

So nothing actually happened at the summit and Trump made big bucks off of Russians before he became President. Interesting.

So nothing actually happened at the summit and Trump made big bucks off of Russians before he became President. Interesting.
Sure something happened at the summit, Putin gave up nothing and Trump betrayed America looking like a fool in the process.

Move along.

Sure something happened at the summit, Putin gave up nothing and Trump betrayed America looking like a fool in the process.

Move along.

What did Trump give up?

RESPECT!
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What did Trump give up?
Trust in our democracy. Confidence in our political process. Emboldening our adversaries. We gave up a lot with nothing in return.

Wow, Ralph Peters ranting on MSNBC...case closed.

RESPECT!
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Trump had respect?

be gentle...they are teetering on the edge of sanity....

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

Trust in our democracy.

We have a democracy?

Confidence in our political process.

Who has confidence in our political process? How did Trump damage our political process at the summit? Hasn't confidence in our political process been degraded over time by costly, ill conceived or unnecessary wars, judicial debasement of the Constitution, media hype-exaggeration-lies, ugly and fallacious party bickering and accusations? Unsustainable national debt? What did Trump do at the summit that destroyed your confidence in our political process?

Emboldening our adversaries. We gave up a lot with nothing in return.

Our adversaries were not emboldened before the summit? Do you, or they, believe that, because of the summit, they can attack us any more than they did before the summit?

Trump had respect?
Thank you for confirming
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Trust in our democracy. Confidence in our political process. Emboldening our adversaries. We gave up a lot with nothing in return.

Yes - been many years of that now

Wow, Ralph Peters ranting on MSNBC...case closed.

Wait, I though Ralph was a crackpot last Admin.

(BTW, Ralph Peters is cool Old School Cold Warrior so by default most lefties would hate him)

What did Trump give up?

He must have got something for nothing

“Well, I think we’re really doing well with Russia as of today,” Trump said. “I thought we were doing horrible before today. Really, I mean horribly. Dangerously.”

“It was that big? It was that dramatic today?” Hannity asked.

“Oh, I thought it was great today,” Trump said. “But I thought it was really bad five hours ago.”
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Thank you for confirming
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Thank you for admitting that he did not give up something at the summit that he didn't have from you in the first place. Can't give away what you don't have. Oh, BTW, you won.

He must have got something for nothing

“Well, I think we’re really doing well with Russia as of today,” Trump said. “I thought we were doing horrible before today. Really, I mean horribly. Dangerously.”

“It was that big? It was that dramatic today?” Hannity asked.

“Oh, I thought it was great today,” Trump said. “But I thought it was really bad five hours ago.”


Show time. Politics is the grand circus of illusory optics.

Well, if nothing else the Russian hacking did expose the widespread corruption inside the Democratic party to get Clinton nominated.
This should be the real turning point.

I'm not condoning the hacking - but we also shouldn't ignore that fact just because it was illegally done by a foreign entity.

Wait, I though Ralph was a crackpot last Admin.

(BTW, Ralph Peters is cool Old School Cold Warrior so by default most lefties would hate him)
At least he's seen the light with his disdain for FOX News and the Trump administration.

Now Trump is contradicting his own Intel Chief stating that Russia is no longer targeting the US.

Can anyone rationalize this aside from the idea that our President is beholden to Putin?

Thank you for admitting that he did not give up something at the summit that he didn't have from you in the first place. Can't give away what you don't have. Oh, BTW, you won.

I guess I needed to spell it out with larger letters, respect from the free world, from our allies, from his peers; I'm pretty sure it's a long list of people who might have been on the fence about Trump who just lost all respect for the leader of the free world.

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Can anyone rationalize this aside from the idea that our President is beholden to Putin?

it's brilliant strategy that you are not smart enough to understand...don't worry...he's got this...

I guess I needed to spell it out with larger letters, respect from the free world, from our allies, from his peers; I'm pretty sure it's a long list of people who might have been on the fence about Trump who just lost all respect for the leader of the free world.

they don’t need to respect Trump, they need to respect the US, and i believe they still do. i am confident our adversaries thought obama was a pushover, and we survived just fine. in fact we did pretty darn well in his two terms.
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they don’t need to respect Trump, they need to respect the US, and i believe they still do. i am confident our adversaries thought obama was a pushover, and we survived just fine. in fact we did pretty darn well in his two terms.
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Putin I'm sure feels emboldened after his stroking by his bud Donald and since O did little to stop Russia from expanding their influence; I'm not sure I'd want to be living in a country next door to Russia at this point in time. Trump gave Putin exactly what he wanted at this summit and that in light of the evidence of Russian interference and if you believe (and I do) Russians continued efforts to influence our democracy, is IMHO just the opposite of what should have been happening.

Putin I'm sure feels emboldened .

when has he not?

; I'm not sure I'd want to be living in a country next door to Russia at this point in time. .

Agreed.

Anyone who thought it was hilarious when Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a threat, has exactly zero right to be bitching about Putin's rise. Zero right. We chose to elect a guy who thought it was funny to believe Russia was a concern. SO this is the result. Guess what? When you plant potatoes, you get potatoes?

I also remember when Obama was caught on mike telling a Putin lackey, something to the effect of "this is my last election, after it's behind me, I'll have more flexibility in dealing with Russia." Which I took to mean as , "once I'm no longer accountable to the American people, I'll be able to play ball". How else can that be interpreted? But Spence said not to worry...

I just with the Dems had been more concerned about Russia before the past couple years. I wish the same of Western Europe - that they would be more concerned. RUS broke its economy the past 6-7 years rebuilding its mil and capabilities.

I'm not sure I'd want to be living in a country next door to Russia at this point in time.

Ahhh, but Russia is a peaceful country surrounded by ceasefires.

Agreed.

Anyone who thought it was hilarious when Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a threat, has exactly zero right to be bitching about Putin's rise. Zero right. We chose to elect a guy who thought it was funny to believe Russia was a concern. SO this is the result. Guess what? When you plant potatoes, you get potatoes?

I also remember when Obama was caught on mike telling a Putin lackey, something to the effect of "this is my last election, after it's behind me, I'll have more flexibility in dealing with Russia." Which I took to mean as , "once I'm no longer accountable to the American people, I'll be able to play ball". How else can that be interpreted? But Spence said not to worry...

They Lackey was Medvedev, the at the time RUS President and Vlad's placeholder until he re-rigged their constitution.

I guess I needed to spell it out with larger letters, respect from the free world, from our allies, from his peers; I'm pretty sure it's a long list of people who might have been on the fence about Trump who just lost all respect for the leader of the free world.

No, you didn't need to use large letters. I disagree with you. I don't think that "the free world" (as I envision what you mean by that phrase) respects America as a country, as a people, as a philosophy of how to live or how to govern. They have some respect for our power, especially insofar as that power is wielded to protect them. Otherwise, the Progressive elites (the ones that our Progressive Press hold as the true representatives of that outer "free world") hold us in various degrees of contempt. And they, as well as our own American elites, have no respect for Trump to lose.

Toadying up to those elites does not garner us respect from them, it just makes them more comfortable with, and more tolerant of, us. And oh, BTW, less nervous that our protection of them might waver.

In some ways, certainly economically, Trump is right that West Europeans are foes to us. We Americans are foes to each other, politically, economically, morally, philosophically. And I don't want our President to be "the leader of the free world." I don't even want our President to be the leader of the American People. I want us to be the leaders of our own lives.

So, I don't care about the notion that other countries or societies lose "respect" for us. Especially if we have to kiss their azz to get it.

I agree with you on that respect, that other nations in NATO and for their own benifit, must contribute their fair share. To kiss the arse golden ring, or lick the boots of a known brutal man and leader; well beam me up Scotty there must be sanity in the universe.

I agree with you on that respect, that other nations in NATO and for their own benifit, must contribute their fair share. To kiss the arse golden ring, or lick the boots of a known brutal man and leader; well beam me up Scotty there must be sanity in the universe.

I don't think Trump would lick Putin's boots, nor that he has. He has said some nice things about Putin, as he has about leaders of the so called free world. He is trying to negotiate various agreements with them all. Sometimes different buttons have to be pushed with the same or different people in order to get the desired results.

If, going in, the only way to get results is to threaten, disparage, insult, or actually go to war, then Trump got off on the wrong foot with Putin. But that can change, if necessary. And if war is necessary, what will those who claimed and complained that Trump would get us into a war say about that?

So what ae the desired results from an X super power, with little to offer us and if it’s obtained via cyber meddling or some sort of dirt; does that not raise concerns?
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Can't make this stuff up...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/397701-white-house-trump-open-to-russia-questioning-us-citizens

Official White House transcripts of the press conference conveniently overlooked the part where Putin said he was hoping Trump would win the election
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So what ae the desired results from an X super power, with little to offer us and if it’s obtained via cyber meddling or some sort of dirt; does that not raise concerns?
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I'm not getting it. When it comes to negotiating with Putin, he supposedly has nothing worth our while to offer us. On the other hand, he supposedly has this enormous power to meddle in our affairs and somehow destroy our so-called democracy. (We don't actually have a democracy, and for good reason . . .although, there ARE those who understand how democracies can easily be tools of authoritarian regimes and want to convert us to one. That conversion can psychologically be implanted in our minds by constantly referring to "our democracy.")

I dunno . . . what did China have to offer us when Nixon negotiated with it. It was geopolitically less powerful then than Russia is now. Now, Russia, China, and other nations in both hemispheres are joining each other in an economic relationship whose objective is to replace the US as the hegemonic world economic and military power, and to replace the dollar as the reserve currency.

Is there some possibility to change the direction of that movement? Is there a way, peacefully, over time, to draw all nations into a worldwide economic and cultural competition and/or cooperation that benefits everybody? Does Western Europe's disinclination to powerfully arm itself open the door to Russian and Eastern powers to threaten it and thus embolden those powers to destroy and dominate rather than come to the table and create a diverse worldwide community of friendly competitors?

I don't know what's in Trump's mind. And I don't understand how so many anti-Trumpers absolutely claim to know what he thinks or why he says and does what he does. He's done some good things. Maybe there's more to come. I'm not all hyperbolic about him destroying Western Civilization, nor this country.

He claims to be a negotiator. Negotiators operate differently than adversaries or warmongers. Maybe you're right that he'll eff everything up. I don't think he even has the power to do so. I prefer to wait until Trump actually does something rather than bitch about what I "know" he'll do.

And what has been going on up till now ain't all that good . . . at least it appears few think it is if all the screeching from all directions means anything. It has the appearance of OK to some, but others see a worldwide rise in national debts and the direction unabatedly continuing that way. And there are all the degradations of long standing social norms that have no definition or basic meaning . . . or the political animosities . . . or the ever-present potential for war. . . yada yada yada, you know the drill.

Hey, to rephrase a Beatles' mantra, "give Trump a chance." OK, OK, I realize y'all can't do that . . . y'all continue on with your nice hyperventilation. I'll step aside as the ignorant dummie while y'all really good experts and wizard fortune tellers tell us what's really going on.

Hey, you win again. Maybe, like Trump said, you'll get tired of winning.

Can't make this stuff up...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/397701-white-house-trump-open-to-russia-questioning-us-citizens



President Donald Trump will consider allowing Russian investigators to question U.S.-born investor Bill Browder, former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul and others after President Vladimir Putin floated the idea, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday.

“He said it was an interesting idea. He didn’t commit to anything,” Sanders said at the daily press briefing. “He wants to work with his team and determine if there’s any validity that would be helpful to the process…It was an idea they threw out.”


Later in the day, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert called the concept "absolutely absurd."


Appears the Head is losing contact with the rest of the body ...

But again Conservatives are silent on this Suggestion...

I guess because he was Obama's ambassador Michael McFaul.... and U.S.-born investor Bill Browder (english citizen ) over Clinton mystery money

President Donald Trump will consider allowing Russian investigators to question U.S.-born investor Bill Browder, former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul and others after President Vladimir Putin floated the idea, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday.

“He said it was an interesting idea. He didn’t commit to anything,” Sanders said at the daily press briefing. “He wants to work with his team and determine if there’s any validity that would be helpful to the process…It was an idea they threw out.”


Later in the day, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert called the concept "absolutely absurd."


Appears the Head is losing contact with the rest of the body ...

But again Conservatives are silent on this Suggestion...

I guess because he was Obama's ambassador Michael McFaul.... and U.S.-born investor Bill Browder (english citizen ) over Clinton mystery money

Trump "considers" a lot of things out loud. But does not follow up on the considerations. Declared considerations of a negotiator are often veiled threats in order to steer things in a favorable direction. Mueller indicts some more Russians which may be a stated "consideration" to influence media hype. I don't believe he can extradite those Russians or interview them in Russia if Russia says no. Perhaps Putin's suggestion that he can interrogate Browder and McFaul are like, "Oh yeah . . . you want to interrogate some Russians--OK then, let us interrogate some Americans." Neither of which is likely to happen. Political optics BS.

I'm not getting it. When it comes to negotiating with Putin, he supposedly has nothing worth our while to offer us. On the other hand, he supposedly has this enormous power to meddle in our affairs and somehow destroy our so-called democracy. (We don't actually have a democracy, and for good reason . . .although, there ARE those who understand how democracies can easily be tools of authoritarian regimes and want to convert us to one. That conversion can psychologically be implanted in our minds by constantly referring to "our democracy.")

I dunno . . . what did China have to offer us when Nixon negotiated with it. It was geopolitically less powerful then than Russia is now. Now, Russia, China, and other nations in both hemispheres are joining each other in an economic relationship whose objective is to replace the US as the hegemonic world economic and military power, and to replace the dollar as the reserve currency.

Is there some possibility to change the direction of that movement? Is there a way, peacefully, over time, to draw all nations into a worldwide economic and cultural competition and/or cooperation that benefits everybody? Does Western Europe's disinclination to powerfully arm itself open the door to Russian and Eastern powers to threaten it and thus embolden those powers to destroy and dominate rather than come to the table and create a diverse worldwide community of friendly competitors?

I don't know what's in Trump's mind. And I don't understand how so many anti-Trumpers absolutely claim to know what he thinks or why he says and does what he does. He's done some good things. Maybe there's more to come. I'm not all hyperbolic about him destroying Western Civilization, nor this country.

He claims to be a negotiator. Negotiators operate differently than adversaries or warmongers. Maybe you're right that he'll eff everything up. I don't think he even has the power to do so. I prefer to wait until Trump actually does something rather than bitch about what I "know" he'll do.

And what has been going on up till now ain't all that good . . . at least it appears few think it is if all the screeching from all directions means anything. It has the appearance of OK to some, but others see a worldwide rise in national debts and the direction unabatedly continuing that way. And there are all the degradations of long standing social norms that have no definition or basic meaning . . . or the political animosities . . . or the ever-present potential for war. . . yada yada yada, you know the drill.

Hey, to rephrase a Beatles' mantra, "give Trump a chance." OK, OK, I realize y'all can't do that . . . y'all continue on with your nice hyperventilation. I'll step aside as the ignorant dummie while y'all really good experts and wizard fortune tellers tell us what's really going on.

Hey, you win again. Maybe, like Trump said, you'll get tired of winning.

Said it many times, I don't want Trump to fail. While I despise the man, his constant lies and miss truths and most especially his disrespectful treatment of most anyone who even hints they aren't in agreement; I keep hoping he would finally put his phone down and just thicken up the skin and do the job you were elected to do. The usual comeback to my statement above if also getting so fing old; what about Hillary, what about Obama, what about Bill.

In the very long run, I think eventually we need Russia, China, NK; I personally would hope this world isn't going to keep moving on the way it is with everyone looking out for just their own interest and boarders? I'm pretty sure Putin isn't ready to sit down and play nice in the global sand box and neither is NK; China however is moving itself forward better then anyone probably gives them credit for.

Putin and Trump are so similar in their need to be seen in a certain light, the summit was like watching a mutual admiration society meeting.

Here is an opinion of Trumps effect on The Worlds economy
We are part of it
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-may-kill-the-global-recovery?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Said it many times, I don't want Trump to fail. While I despise the man, his constant lies and miss truths and most especially his disrespectful treatment of most anyone who even hints they aren't in agreement; I keep hoping he would finally put his phone down and just thicken up the skin and do the job you were elected to do. The usual comeback to my statement above if also getting so fing old; what about Hillary, what about Obama, what about Bill.

In the very long run, I think eventually we need Russia, China, NK; I personally would hope this world isn't going to keep moving on the way it is with everyone looking out for just their own interest and boarders? I'm pretty sure Putin isn't ready to sit down and play nice in the global sand box and neither is NK; China however is moving itself forward better then anyone probably gives them credit for.

Putin and Trump are so similar in their need to be seen in a certain light, the summit was like watching a mutual admiration society meeting.

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Said it many times, I don't want Trump to fail.
I don't want America to fail. Trump is hurting this country and our allies more than he's helping. If we get to the point of impeachment it's going to be hard but we'd be better off long-term.

While I despise the man, his constant lies and miss truths and most especially his disrespectful treatment of most anyone who even hints they aren't in agreement; I keep hoping he would finally put his phone down and just thicken up the skin and do the job you were elected to do.
From what I've seen so far he's not even remotely capable or even interested of doing the job he was elected to do.

Here is the answer to the question the OP asked:

Republicans overwhelmingly approved of President Donald Trump’s handling of his press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin despite the reactions from top GOP lawmakers and some in the conservative establishment, according to a new poll released Thursday.

Trump’s approval among Republicans has remained strong since he entered office and the Axios and Survey Monkey poll indicated there was very little the president could do wrong in the eyes of Republicans, even while Trump wavers on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

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Seventy-nine percent of Republicans approved of Trump's performance alongside Putin, while 91 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents disapproved.

Overall, Trump received 58 percent disapproval and 40 percent approval, though both figures were clearly skewed by the deep partisan divide that often accompanies Trump.

Those results backed up a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday, which showed 55 percent overall disapproved of Trump’s work on Russian relations. But, the poll also reflected approval from 71 percent of Republicans.

The results echoed Trump’s recent approval ratings among the GOP. Earlier this month, Trump registered a 90 percent approval rating from Republicans, while only 8 percent of Democrats and 38 percent of independents offered approval, according to Gallup. Throughout his 18 months in office, Trump has never received less than 78 percent approval from Republicans in Gallup’s poll.

The recent findings suggest a strong shift within a Republican Party that was staunchly anti-Russia for decades. Starting with notorious Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy and his firebrand style known as “McCarthyism,” the GOP has long been firmly anti-Communism and viewed Russia as the nation’s greatest enemy.

Under Trump, the Republican base appears ready to back a leader who claims to desire better relations with Russia in order to combat terrorism and other issues around the world.

The apparent Republican devotion to Trump has continued despite strong rebukes from Republican lawmakers about his press conference with Putin. The president suggested Monday he believed Putin’s denials of election meddling despite the widespread conclusion by the U.S. intelligence community.

Trump attempted to clean up his comment Tuesday when he claimed he was caught in a “double-negative” during his remarks at the press conference. The president said he intended to say “wouldn’t” instead of “would” when he spoke about whether or not Russia interfered.

The president’s cherry-picking of intelligence was exposed late Wednesday after a New York Times report revealed he had been briefed on Putin’s involvement and direction of cyberattacks against the U.S. in order to meddle two weeks prior to his inauguration in January 2017.

Trump tried to further reverse course on Twitter Thursday morning when he posted a video showing the times he has stated publicly that Russia meddled, though several of the clips show Trump saying “other countries” could also have been involved.

Trump has labeled the summit with Putin a “great success,” but his detractors have used the press conference to further accusations of collusion with Russia to win the presidency. Others have suggested that Putin has some sort of damning information on Trump and is hanging it over the president to improve Russia’s standing in the world

I say he controls Trump because he holds the notes on his properties thru his subordinates.

From what I've seen so far he's not even remotely capable or even interested of doing the job he was elected to do.



which was what?..."fundamentally transform" America?....the people that elected him seem to think he's doing the job they elected him to do....not a surprise you don't like the job he's doing since he trounced your heartthrob and you reside far, far to the left of him politically ......and you are a little bitter....he will never get your approval...nor that of the hags on the View or MSNBC...pretty sure he knows that and doesn't really care

sounds like Lisa Page is contradicting a lot of Storks testimony...this could be juicy....

Said it many times, I don't want Trump to fail. While I despise the man, his constant lies and miss truths and most especially his disrespectful treatment of most anyone who even hints they aren't in agreement;

I admit to not paying a high degree of attention to whom Trump treats disrespectfully. From what I've seen, he gets nasty with those who say negative things about him.

I keep hoping he would finally put his phone down and just thicken up the skin and do the job you were elected to do.

What job he was elected to do is he not doing?

The usual comeback to my statement above if also getting so fing old; what about Hillary, what about Obama, what about Bill.

Comparing how Trump is treated with how HC was is a current comparison. Comparing how the media reacted to Obama's actions or inactions to how it reacts to Trump's similar actions or inactions is a current comparison. And the comparisons are telling about how the media is biased. Besides, Hillary and Obama have not gone away. They are still on the scene and making comments about Trump.

In the very long run, I think eventually we need Russia, China, NK; I personally would hope this world isn't going to keep moving on the way it is with everyone looking out for just their own interest and boarders?

Isn't that what negotiations are about? Coming to mutually beneficial decisions? Baby steps leading to the long run?

I'm pretty sure Putin isn't ready to sit down and play nice in the global sand box and neither is NK; China however is moving itself forward better then anyone probably gives them credit for.

Russia, China, Brazil, India, and South Africa have joined in an international economic union, BRICS, that will compete with the US and its allies. So, obviously, those nations do want to cooperate with others for mutual economic growth. And more nations are interested in joining that union. Negotiations with each of those countries could be baby steps toward the long run. Each of those countries would probably love to have good trade relations with the US. Only negotiations could achieve those trade relations.

Putin and Trump are so similar in their need to be seen in a certain light, the summit was like watching a mutual admiration society meeting.

Would it have been better if they appeared to be scowling at each other, hating rather than "admiring" each other?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5811380657001/?#sp=show-clips


this is what happens when you disrespect the Dear leader on Fox

sounds like Lisa Page is contradicting a lot of Storks testimony...this could be juicy....
Well not really. An independent IG has already dug into all of this stuff. I wouldn't take partisan spin as sign of any controversy. Not to mention that Strzok schooled house republicans during his last appearance.

Well not really. An independent IG has already dug into all of this stuff. I wouldn't take partisan spin as sign of any controversy. Not to mention that Strzok schooled house republicans during his last appearance.

you are a little confused...being an arrogant, evasive douche is not "schooling" someone...

"no...no he's not...we'll stop it"....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZoMg21F_B0

you are a little confused...being an arrogant, evasive douche is not "schooling" someone...

"no...no he's not...we'll stop it"....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZoMg21F_B0

Only Schooling someone if a Republican is doing it .. Again GOP trying to knit a sweater with the FBI but ignore's this

Maria Butina loves guns, has ties to a top Russian banker, and has now landed in an American jail accused of conspiring against the US government

Only Schooling someone if a Republican is doing it .. Again GOP trying to knit a sweater with the FBI but ignore's this

Maria Butina loves guns, has ties to a top Russian banker, and has now landed in an American jail accused of conspiring against the US government

overplayed....

she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent....if she did conspire against the US somehow...then she's in the right place isn't she?...you can rest knowing that she was finally apprehended under the Trump administration...what exactly did Russia get for her efforts?

maybe they will arrest all of those Russians that poured all of that money into the Clinton's coffers to secure the Uranium One deal....talk about collusion

"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

I wonder how much money the Clinton's have collected from the Russians and Chinese over the years?



only need listed to Strzok's own words Wayne..


"no...no he's not...we'll stop it"....

and

"there’s no big there there.”

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902-opinion-one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american

A perfect example of whataboutism
overplayed....

she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent....if she did conspire against the US somehow...then she's in the right place isn't she?...you can rest knowing that she was finally apprehended under the Trump administration...what exactly did Russia get for her efforts?

maybe they will arrest all of those Russians that poured all of that money into the Clinton's coffers to secure the Uranium One deal....talk about collusion

"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

I wonder how much money the Clinton's have collected from the Russians and Chinese over the years?



only need listed to Strzok's own words Wayne..


"no...no he's not...we'll stop it"....

and

"there’s no big there there.”

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902-opinion-one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american
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A perfect example of whataboutism

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whatever...hey Pete....if Trump had lost....Bill and Hillary would be in the White House...all of those hacks at the FBI like Stokyk would still be going about their business...Obama's politicization and weaponization of various governmental agencies would continue...if nothing else...trump is a speed bump..for the clintons, a tree in the road....a disruption in the imbalance and politicization of our government...if they can prove he's complicit in collusion or anything else I hope he's removed, I don't like him....but the democrats constant insane screeching is far worse than trumps antics....at some point they will figure out that much of what trump does is to illicit their crazy reactions...or maybe they won't........

let me know when they indict and American for collusion.....

so the gov. is not letting her out on bail bc they only think she didn't register as a foreign agent?

so the gov. is not letting her out on bail bc they only think she didn't register as a foreign agent?
Nothing to see here

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/18/accused-russian-spy-maria-butina-offered-sex-in-exchange-for-us-job-prosecutors-say.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/accused-russian-spys-boy-toy-is-a-serial-fraud-lawsuits

so the gov. is not letting her out on bail bc they only think she didn't register as a foreign agent?

probably so she doesn't leave the country like they did during the Clinton years...

"A total of 120 participants in the fundraising scandal either fled the country, asserted their Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, or otherwise avoided questioning."

probably so she doesn't leave the country like they did during the Clinton years...

"A total of 120 participants in the fundraising scandal either fled the country, asserted their Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, or otherwise avoided questioning."

But the media was criticized for not going after that story
From the same article you quoted


Many people still believe that a major cover-up of that scandal worked — in part because the media expressed skepticism and devoted only a fraction of resources they are spending on the Trump–Russia story. Network reporters expressed outright skepticism of the story, with many openly criticizing the late senator Fred Thompson, the chair of the Senate investigating committee, for wasting time and money. On June 17, 1997, Katie Couric, then the Today co-anchor, asked the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward about the story: “Are members of the media, do you think, Bob, too scandal-obsessed, looking for something at every corner?”

According to an analysis by the Media Research Center, the news coverage of the congressional hearings on the China scandal in the summer of 1997 were dwarfed by reports on the murder of fashion designer Gianni Versace and the death of Princess Diana.

it's brilliant strategy that you are not smart enough to understand...don't worry...he's got this...

It is not brilliant strategy - it makes no sense. Why is Trump so malleable around VVP?

China however is moving itself forward better then anyone probably gives them credit for.

No, China is not moving itself forward and better. It is going to crush millions it its rise

Putin and Trump are so similar in their need to be seen in a certain light, the summit was like watching a mutual admiration society meeting.

No, not similar at all. Putin is leagues ahead of Trump, Obama, Clinton, Bush (at least junior) but more like a combination Bond villain - the image he tries to cultivate, and a smarter Tony Soprano that also owns his FBI

It is not brilliant strategy - it makes no sense. Why is Trump so malleable around VVP?





that was sarcastic....Spence was always quick to defend Obama's questionable moves, particularly in regard to Russia and Syria as "playing brilliantly" or something...as though no one else was smart enough to understand the hidden brilliance of his decisions

So it had nothing to do with her trying to set up meetings w/Trump and Putin and funnel money to the NRA in support of Trump? or her being seen with many infuential Repub. politicians

Interesting that the house intell. committee refused Dem. requests to interview Butina and Erickson (as an overweight old Repub. he should have know an attractive Russian was just using him).

Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"

But the media was criticized for not going after that story
From the same article you quoted


Many people still believe that a major cover-up of that scandal worked — in part because the media expressed skepticism and devoted only a fraction of resources they are spending on the Trump–Russia story. Network reporters expressed outright skepticism of the story, with many openly criticizing the late senator Fred Thompson, the chair of the Senate investigating committee, for wasting time and money. On June 17, 1997, Katie Couric, then the Today co-anchor, asked the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward about the story: “Are members of the media, do you think, Bob, too scandal-obsessed, looking for something at every corner?”

According to an analysis by the Media Research Center, the news coverage of the congressional hearings on the China scandal in the summer of 1997 were dwarfed by reports on the murder of fashion designer Gianni Versace and the death of Princess Diana.

point?

yes, I am aware that the media and democrats were more interested in Versace and Di than chinese communists infiltrating and influencing the White House :scream::scream:

So it had nothing to do with her trying to set up meetings w/Trump and Putin and funnel money to the NRA in support of Trump? or her being seen with many infuential Repub. politicians

Interesting that the house intell. committee refused Dem. requests to interview Butina and Erickson (as an overweight old Repub. he should have know an attractive Russian was just using him).

Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"


was she charged with using overweight old republicans?

Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"

Paul...I'm reading what she's charged with and accused of and while I think she should answer for whatever she's done...I don't see some big national security threat...Spence would say "she has an impressive resume"(sarcasm)...it does however, give the media and the left the opportunity to scream "RUSSIAN SPY"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/07/19/maria-butina-accused-russian-spy-who-allegedly-offered-sex-power/799333002/

point?

yes, I am aware that the media and democrats were more interested in Versace and Di than chinese communists infiltrating and influencing the White House :scream::scream:
The point is that you did another whatabout, but didn't tell the rest of the story. That if something happened the media did not bring their A game to that show. Now the complaint is that they are looking at the current Russia issues.

That article also says:

Also in the photo: Alexander Torshin, who is not named in court filings but is the "Russian official" who gave Butina orders as part of the conspiracy, according to The New York Times

Also - "prosecutors who argued that Butina represented an “extreme” risk of flight from the country."

They can add charges at any time so wanted to keep her here bf she left the country.

The point is that you did another whatabout, but didn't tell the rest of the story. That if something happened the media did not bring their A game to that show. Now the complaint is that they are looking at the current Russia issues.

huh?

That article also says:

Also in the photo: Alexander Torshin, who is not named in court filings but is the "Russian official" who gave Butina orders as part of the conspiracy, according to The New York Times

Also - "prosecutors who argued that Butina represented an “extreme” risk of flight from the country." so I was right "probably so she doesn't leave the country"

They can add charges at any time so wanted to keep her here bf she left the country.

ok....

the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.

the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.

"may be"

sounds more like a mail order bride gone wrong

great headline..Accused Russian spy allegedly offered sex for power

ok

the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.
They outed her with a lesser charge so the NSA can intercept the frenzy of communication that will follow.
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An assessment that I would agree with being quite possible

https://www.newyorker.com/news-desk/swamp-chronicles/a-theory-of-trump-kompromat

https://www.newyorker.com/news-desk/swamp-chronicles/where-did-donald-trump-get-200-million-dollars-to-buy-his-money-losing-scottish-golf-club

They outed her with a lesser charge so the NSA can intercept the frenzy of communication that will follow.
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"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun :rotf2:

her lawyer...

"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.

again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip

that was sarcastic....Spence was always quick to defend Obama's questionable moves, particularly in regard to Russia and Syria as "playing brilliantly" or something...as though no one else was smart enough to understand the hidden brilliance of his decisions

Gotcha

"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun :rotf2:

her lawyer...

"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.

again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip

It is an interesting story - wonder where it leads.

One thing is for ABSOLUTE CERTAIN!!! Obama's Russian Spies were much hotter than Trumps

"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun :rotf2:

her lawyer...

"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.

again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip
And yet the US Government basically just charged her with espionage.

You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days. What does Putin have on you?
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You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days. What does Putin have on you?
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Pee Pee tapes.
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You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days.

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yes, I am definitely a russian apologist.....with two p's...I see what you and Eben did there...practically collusion :cool:

5th ave. Repubs.
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